For the last decade I believed that my great-great-great grandparents were Samuel Rollins of Dublin, NH and Lucy Winch of Framingham, MA. This was based on LDS information for which "no source information is available" or "information has not been verified against any official records" as well as page 389 from the History of Dublin, NH. They had three boys, Samuel, James and Joel who was my great-great grandfather, and the boys legal activities are well documented in the late 1820s in the Seigniory of St. Armand in the Eastern Townships of Quebec. James eventually returned to the USA and Samuel and Joel stayed in Quebec. I have never found a record in Quebec of their mother's name. I recently read in a book of Vermont Warnings Out that, on Oct. 11, 1808, Rutland issued a warning out to the three boys, their father Samuel and their mother Hepsibath. In reviewing the LDS site I found that, based on source documents, there was a Samuel with wife Hepsibeth and three boys Samuel, James and Joel. In addition, according to the History of Framingham, page 446, S. Rollins married Hephzebah Winch on Nov. 22, 1792. I would appreciate comments from others who have studied this family. Perhaps Lucy was just a nickname for Hepsibah (lots of spelling variations). LDS information can often be quite misleading. My Joel is shown as born in Durham CT, Durham ON, Durham NS, Durham NH and Durham QC. I don't know if he was ever in Durham, QC but he was certainly active in the area around Dunham, QC. It would be interesting to know why the town fathers of Rutland invited the family to leave town. Perhaps it was nothing more than loyalist leanings.

Howard, Sometimes in New England in the time period you mention (and earlier), the towns and villages had a policy that they would not allow any people to stay that were down on their luck. Instead of public aid, charities, the township, etc. and resources we have now, they quite often just asked them to leave so that they wouldn't have to help them or support them. That may be why your family was asked to leave. Mary from Illinois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Jackman" <howard.jackman@sympatico.ca> To: "QC-ETANGLO" <QC-ETANGLO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 8:03 PM Subject: [QC-ETANGLO] Rollins/Winch of Dublin, NH & Framingham,MA.and QC & VT Warnings Out > For the last decade I believed that my great-great-great grandparents were > Samuel Rollins of Dublin, NH and Lucy Winch of Framingham, MA. This was > based on LDS information for which "no source information is available" or > "information has not been verified against any official records" as well > as page 389 from the History of Dublin, NH. They had three boys, Samuel, > James and Joel who was my great-great grandfather, and the boys legal > activities are well documented in the late 1820s in the Seigniory of St. > Armand in the Eastern Townships of Quebec. James eventually returned to > the USA and Samuel and Joel stayed in Quebec. I have never found a record > in Quebec of their mother's name. > > I recently read in a book of Vermont Warnings Out that, on Oct. 11, 1808, > Rutland issued a warning out to the three boys, their father Samuel and > their mother Hepsibath. In reviewing the LDS site I found that, based on > source documents, there was a Samuel with wife Hepsibeth and three boys > Samuel, James and Joel. In addition, according to the History of > Framingham, page 446, S. Rollins married Hephzebah Winch on Nov. 22, 1792. > I would appreciate comments from others who have studied this family. > Perhaps Lucy was just a nickname for Hepsibah (lots of spelling > variations). > > > > LDS information can often be quite misleading. My Joel is shown as born > in Durham CT, Durham ON, Durham NS, Durham NH and Durham QC. I don't know > if he was ever in Durham, QC but he was certainly active in the area > around Dunham, QC. > > It would be interesting to know why the town fathers of Rutland invited > the family to leave town. Perhaps it was nothing more than loyalist > leanings. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Records of families of the name Rawlins or Rollins, in the United States : in two parts Authors: Rollins, John R. City of Publication: Lawrence, Mass. Publisher: unknown Date: 1874 Page Count: 365 Notes: Includes bibliographical references and index. Pt. 1. Family records of James Rawlins, of Dover, and his descendants -- Pt. 2. Partial records of the families of Nicholas Rawlins of Newbury, William Rawlins of Gloucester, Thomas Rawlins of Scituate, Thomas Rawlins of Boston, Henry Rollins of Pennsylvania, Charles Rawlins of Delaware, and notices of other families who settled in Virginia and Maryland, and in other parts of the country. coat of arms. Reel/Fiche Number: Genealogy and local history ; G1759 On page 263 it says Samuel (James, William) married Lucy Winch, a native of Framington, Mass.; settled a farm at Durnham, Canada East. Children: Joel, b. 1802 James, b.____ , went to Ohio Samuel, b. _____, settled in Shefford, Canada East. I saved and can send you the image of page 263 if you wish. I don't see sources noted on this either. This John Rollins had to have got his information from somewhere. Let me know. Hope this helps some. --------------------------------- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.

I have that information, although not from that source, but from William Bartlett Rollins who died in 1989. He expanded it to include more on the descendants of Joel. It is the reference to Lucy Winch that I suspect is wrong. I have learned that, just because it is written, it is not necessarily true. Thanks for your reply. Howard ----- Original Message ----- From: "MK" <pilgrimkin@yahoo.com> To: <qc-etanglo@rootsweb.com> Sent: 23-Apr-07 11:18 AM Subject: [QC-ETANGLO] Rollins/Winch of Dublin, NH & Framingham, MA & Canada > Records of families of the name Rawlins or Rollins, in the United States : > in two parts > Authors: Rollins, John R. > City of Publication: Lawrence, Mass. > Publisher: unknown > Date: 1874 > Page Count: 365 > Notes: Includes bibliographical references and index. > Pt. 1. Family records of James Rawlins, of Dover, and his descendants -- > Pt. 2. Partial records of the families of Nicholas Rawlins of Newbury, > William Rawlins of Gloucester, Thomas Rawlins of Scituate, Thomas Rawlins > of Boston, Henry Rollins of Pennsylvania, Charles Rawlins of Delaware, > and notices of other families who settled in Virginia and Maryland, and in > other parts of the country. > coat of arms. > Reel/Fiche Number: Genealogy and local history ; G1759 > > On page 263 it says Samuel (James, William) married Lucy Winch, a native > of Framington, Mass.; settled a farm at Durnham, Canada East. > Children: > Joel, b. 1802 > James, b.____ , went to Ohio > Samuel, b. _____, settled in Shefford, Canada East. > > I saved and can send you the image of page 263 if you wish. > > I don't see sources noted on this either. This John Rollins had to have > got his information from somewhere. > > Let me know. > > Hope this helps some. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? > Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.9/773 - Release Date: 4/22/2007 > 8:18 PM >