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Having personally visited and transcribed over 150 cemeteries in the Eastern Townships, I have never heard nor seen evidence of any problems. In fact the opposite is true in may old cemeteries as they are maintained by associations, corporations or volunteers. For big cities I cannot comment except that Sherbrooke has two large Protestant cemeteries and as far as I know care is perpetual. Leslie Nutbrown Lennoxville (Sherbrooke)

Not surprising. The francophone authorities of Quebec will use anything possible to try to intimidate anglophones in Quebec, & demean the long anglophone heritage there. Born & grew up in Quebec, but forced to be elsewhere because I am an anglophone. --- Gordon Becker <beckercg@shaw.ca> wrote: > Only in Quebec, you say. > > A Albertan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathleen Bailey" <kathleen_cba@yahoo.ca> > To: <QC-ETANGLO@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 2:47 AM > Subject: [QC-ETANGLO] Quebec cemeteries > > > For those of you who haven't heard or read this > story..... > > Quebec cemetery firm warns it can dig up bodies if > fee > not paid - Quebec bans plot purchases, Ontario bans > leases > Last Updated: Friday, January 19, 2007 courtesy of > CBC > > A Gatineau man has been told his family must pay > $1,700 to a cemetery management company or risk > having > his grandfather, grandmother and other buried > relatives dug up and their headstones removed. > > Gary Blake said his brother received a letter Friday > from Les Jardins du Souvenir demanding $1,700 to > renew > the lease on a plot the Blake family thought they > had > owned since 1892. > > "The Corporation may repossess any lot whether or > not > it is occupied by bodies, monuments, cinerary urns, > flat markers, slant markers, crypts, columbaria or > other distinctive signs . for failure to renew the > contract when it expires," the letter read. > > Blake, 68, visited the snow-covered graves of his > father, his grandmother, and at least five other > members of his family at Saint Paul Cemetery in > Gatineau's Aylmer sector Thursday. > > As he described the letter, his voice constricted > and > he blinked back tears. > > "There was no compassion shown towards anybody," he > said. "It's the only place to come and see your > family." > > Les Jardins du Souvenir declined to comment, but a > spokesman for the company told the Ottawa Citizen > earlier this week that once the lease on a plot has > expired, the cemetery company may dig up the bones > and > urns buried there so they can be re-buried deeper in > the ground and someone else's grave can be put on > top. > > Blake said his great-grandfather purchased the plot > for $10, and his family has paid maintenance fees on > it that are good until 2085, so he was surprised by > the demand for a lease payment. > > "To re-purchase something we already owned didn't > make > sense." > > But a spokesman for the Catholic Archdiocese of > Gatineau that owns the cemetery and the cemetery > maintenance company said that under Quebec law, > neither Blake nor any other individual in Quebec > owns > a cemetery plot. > > "You buy the privilege to use that place," spokesman > René Laprise said. > > Consequently, most Quebec burial plots are leased > for > 25, 50 or 99 years, and in Blake's case, the 99-year > lease expired in 1991. > > According to the Ontario Ministry of Government > Services, the rules are different south of the > Ottawa > River, where cemeteries sell plots permanently and > are > banned from leasing them. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

The subject of Quebec cemeteries and the "lease" aspect of plots is an interesting subject and has been discussed occasionally on the various Quebec genealogy sites. From time to time the media picks up on a specific incident and it makes FRONT PAGE. The recent one quoted by the CBC was written as a front page article, with photos, by the Ottawa Citizen newspaper this past week on the 18th. Having gone through this this past fall with a local genealogist, and my research with the Mount Royal Protestant Cemetery after an article in the Montreal Gazette, which resulted in a retraction, my advice is that if you have family or ancestors interred in Quebec, check the individual cemetery to see what the policy is. I am copying below some of my correspondence to the Ottawa Citizen Newspaper and the local genealogist CG. The full article from the Gazette can be found in their archives on line. It would be interesting though if someone on this site, familiar with Quebec Civil Law, could explain how a document that states "Grave Ownership Certificate" and "This is to certify that Grave Section (X) No. (xxxx) in the Mount Royal Cemetery, Montreal, was Purchased this day in the name of ..... etc. etc., or any other cemetery that reads this way, could be considered a LEASE. Keith. My e-mail to the Ottawa Citizen- jkc. "Your front page article in this mornings paper regarding cemetery plot perpetuity is a very perplexing situation for all of us who have, or intend to have family interred in the Province of Quebec. Recently a Genealogist who writes for a local paper in Smiths falls ON wrote regarding an article in the Montreal Gazette pertaining to this very subject. This alarmed me inasmuch as my parents as well as a sister are interred in the Mount Royal Protestant Cemetery in Montreal and inasmuch as the receipts from the cemetery from the time my father had negotiated the plots, certainly said PURCHASE. In his article in the Smiths Falls paper, the genealogist quoted an incident in Roman catholic Church yard cemetery which parallelled this morning story in the Citizen. I researched the the gazette article and then contacted the Mount Royal Protestant Cemetery in Montreal, and was assured that unlike the Roman Catholic Notre Dame des Neiges Cemetery, next door, which does utilize the "lease" clause, Mount Royal does not. I am attaching below the whole e-mail which I sent to the genealogist in response to his article. I think the a suitably researched article in the Ottawa Citizen would prove to be very interesting. Thanks for bringing the Quebec "situation" to the Front Page, it is a scary thought. Keith in Jasper ON but formerly of Quebec. The following is a copy and paste of my e-mail to the local genealogist- jkc. Hi Pat, well as usual discussions relative to genealogy can be quite controversial and your article in the December 8^th issue of "Smiths Falls This Week" regarding cemetery perpetuity in Quebec created almost as much excitement here as it did in Montreal. I immediately emailed two friends who are genealogists and researchers, as well as writers and publishers on cemeteries in the Eastern Townships, and they were as startled as I. Next to good old Google and a search for the Gazette article. My concern is that my father had PURCHASED two double plots in the Mount Royal Protestant Cemetery in 1954 when my sister died and I had both my father and mother interred there in 1974. My intent now being that when the time comes both my wife and I will be there also, so, if your article were correct, I had better do something about it. First, the Gazette published a retraction to their story of the 14^th on the 18^th of November stating that the Mount Royal Cemetery does exist in perpetuity. I have just finished a phone call to the Mount Royal Cemetery personnel and they have confirmed that, unlike the Roman Catholic Notre Dame des Neiges Cemetery next door, which does utilize the Quebec Civil Law lease provisions, they do guarantee perpetuity. So my reserved space in Mount Royal is there and waiting. (not too soon I hope). The individual I spoke to at the Mount Royal Cemetery indicated that they had been inundated since the erroneous story concerning their cemetery had been published. Certainly the cemeteries that I have been photographing in over the last few years as well as the books published by my friends have certainly not given any indication as to any such occurrence there. Mind you these have been all Protestant and my oldest ancestor's marker is 1805. I'm sure what you wrote is correct as it pertains to Quebec Civil Law _permitting_ lease periods, however one has to be cautious in painting them all with the same brush. All the best, Keith. PS: I note that the incident of which you quoted occurred in a "Parish" cemetery. Perhaps there is something in that as well" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.0/639 - Release Date: 18/01/2007 6:47 PM

Kathleen, Thank you for this valuable information. Anne, Montreal --------------------- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Bailey" <kathleen_cba@yahoo.ca> To: <QC-ETANGLO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 4:47 AM Subject: [QC-ETANGLO] Quebec cemeteries For those of you who haven't heard or read this story..... Quebec cemetery firm warns it can dig up bodies if fee not paid - Quebec bans plot purchases, Ontario bans leases Last Updated: Friday, January 19, 2007 courtesy of CBC

Only in Quebec, you say. A Albertan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Bailey" <kathleen_cba@yahoo.ca> To: <QC-ETANGLO@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 2:47 AM Subject: [QC-ETANGLO] Quebec cemeteries For those of you who haven't heard or read this story..... Quebec cemetery firm warns it can dig up bodies if fee not paid - Quebec bans plot purchases, Ontario bans leases Last Updated: Friday, January 19, 2007 courtesy of CBC A Gatineau man has been told his family must pay $1,700 to a cemetery management company or risk having his grandfather, grandmother and other buried relatives dug up and their headstones removed. Gary Blake said his brother received a letter Friday from Les Jardins du Souvenir demanding $1,700 to renew the lease on a plot the Blake family thought they had owned since 1892. "The Corporation may repossess any lot whether or not it is occupied by bodies, monuments, cinerary urns, flat markers, slant markers, crypts, columbaria or other distinctive signs . for failure to renew the contract when it expires," the letter read. Blake, 68, visited the snow-covered graves of his father, his grandmother, and at least five other members of his family at Saint Paul Cemetery in Gatineau's Aylmer sector Thursday. As he described the letter, his voice constricted and he blinked back tears. "There was no compassion shown towards anybody," he said. "It's the only place to come and see your family." Les Jardins du Souvenir declined to comment, but a spokesman for the company told the Ottawa Citizen earlier this week that once the lease on a plot has expired, the cemetery company may dig up the bones and urns buried there so they can be re-buried deeper in the ground and someone else's grave can be put on top. Blake said his great-grandfather purchased the plot for $10, and his family has paid maintenance fees on it that are good until 2085, so he was surprised by the demand for a lease payment. "To re-purchase something we already owned didn't make sense." But a spokesman for the Catholic Archdiocese of Gatineau that owns the cemetery and the cemetery maintenance company said that under Quebec law, neither Blake nor any other individual in Quebec owns a cemetery plot. "You buy the privilege to use that place," spokesman René Laprise said. Consequently, most Quebec burial plots are leased for 25, 50 or 99 years, and in Blake's case, the 99-year lease expired in 1991. According to the Ontario Ministry of Government Services, the rules are different south of the Ottawa River, where cemeteries sell plots permanently and are banned from leasing them. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For those of you who haven't heard or read this story..... Quebec cemetery firm warns it can dig up bodies if fee not paid - Quebec bans plot purchases, Ontario bans leases Last Updated: Friday, January 19, 2007 courtesy of CBC A Gatineau man has been told his family must pay $1,700 to a cemetery management company or risk having his grandfather, grandmother and other buried relatives dug up and their headstones removed. Gary Blake said his brother received a letter Friday from Les Jardins du Souvenir demanding $1,700 to renew the lease on a plot the Blake family thought they had owned since 1892. "The Corporation may repossess any lot whether or not it is occupied by bodies, monuments, cinerary urns, flat markers, slant markers, crypts, columbaria or other distinctive signs … for failure to renew the contract when it expires," the letter read. Blake, 68, visited the snow-covered graves of his father, his grandmother, and at least five other members of his family at Saint Paul Cemetery in Gatineau's Aylmer sector Thursday. As he described the letter, his voice constricted and he blinked back tears. "There was no compassion shown towards anybody," he said. "It's the only place to come and see your family." Les Jardins du Souvenir declined to comment, but a spokesman for the company told the Ottawa Citizen earlier this week that once the lease on a plot has expired, the cemetery company may dig up the bones and urns buried there so they can be re-buried deeper in the ground and someone else's grave can be put on top. Blake said his great-grandfather purchased the plot for $10, and his family has paid maintenance fees on it that are good until 2085, so he was surprised by the demand for a lease payment. "To re-purchase something we already owned didn't make sense." But a spokesman for the Catholic Archdiocese of Gatineau that owns the cemetery and the cemetery maintenance company said that under Quebec law, neither Blake nor any other individual in Quebec owns a cemetery plot. "You buy the privilege to use that place," spokesman René Laprise said. Consequently, most Quebec burial plots are leased for 25, 50 or 99 years, and in Blake's case, the 99-year lease expired in 1991. According to the Ontario Ministry of Government Services, the rules are different south of the Ottawa River, where cemeteries sell plots permanently and are banned from leasing them. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi - When I was going thru' the Census at my LDS FHC, I could not find my DUTTON where they were supposed to be... I finally started looking for neighbors, and saw where the Census taker had spelled the DUTTON as SUTAIN... apparently the Census taker was French.... so if you can't find your family, try looking for the people that lived nearby and work back and forth... Sally

Dear David, Thanks for your info. The original manuscript is alongside the transcribed one. It plainly shows one letter written over the other so that it is unclear whether the "r" or the "a" were written last. If the person were familiar with the name, there would be no problem. I am quite sure there is no one named Baunton. It was only by hours & hours of perusal of every page of every section, that I found it in the first place. Always lots of hard work, but wonderful to finally find some info that is looked for. Thanks again for info of your expereince in this sort of thing. Evelyn Brunton --- "David J. Ellis" <dr.ellis@physics.org> wrote: > Evelyn: > > As one who has transcribed a few pages in the 1901 > (although not the one you > mention) I may be able to clarify a couple of things > about transcriptions. > The instructuctions regarding transcribing are to > transcribe EXACTLY what is > written, even if that is known to be incorrect. That > may be the situation > your case below. I know of several instances in > material that I have > transcribed where what is written is incorrect when > compared to my knowledge > of the genealogy of the particular individual. Often > its only a phonetic > difference in spelling but I have many cases when > the name written is not > even close to that found in other records. Often > ages are off by many years. > The fundamental reason for transcribing exactly what > is written (as opposed > to what we think SHOULD be written) is that someone > using the transcript > should have access to a true record of the original, > completely untainted by > anyone else' personal view, knowledge or opinion. > Very occasionally, future > research may reveal that the 'erroneous' record was > indeed correct and that > it was our present knowledge that was flawed. > > I have not examined the record you refer to but I'm > sure that if what is > actually written in the original matches your > comments to the transcriber > that they will make an appropriate change. Even if > they do not agree with > you regarding what is actually written, they will > almost always add their > explanatory comment to your own. All comments remain > with the record and are > available for everyone to see. The biggest risk is > that the transcriber may > take a while to go back to the database and look for > comments. It has been > several months since I looked for comments on my own > work and I thank you > very much for reminding me to do so. (One thing > missing in Automated > Genealogy is that do not send us copies of comments > when they are made so we > have to go and seek them out.) > > FYI: When you do a name search at Automated > Genealogy it also lists many > other surnames that are similar. You do have the > option to check off those > that you also wish to include in the returns. I urge > you to always mark off > any names that look even vaguely similar. I've found > many a useful record by > checking like that. > > David E. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: qc-etanglo-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:qc-etanglo-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf > Of Evelyn Brunton > > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 16:22 > > To: qc-etanglo@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [QC-ETANGLO] 1851 Census available > through Ancestry.com > > > > > > Hi, > > I have perused the 1901 Census for Shefford > County. My > > grandfather, grandmoth, & two uncles are listed in > > Shefford District #192, Subdistrict M2, Page 1. > > Transcriber Sharon Nobe, Proof Reader Eileen > Labonte. > > The original has a letter overwritten another > letter > > to make Brunton look like Baunton (the r & a being > > indistict) However, I know for certain it is my > > grandparents & granduncles, and the letter should > be > > an r making the surname BRUNTON. > > Unless this is correct, searches for the name > Brunton > > will not be successful, and in fact the original > > record will not be read correctly. > > Although I made a correction as directed on the > item, > > I do not know for sure whether the change will be > > made. It is important that transcribers will make > the > > necessary changes when someone with intimate > knowledge > > of the names steps forward & requests the change. > > Thanks for setting the records straight. > > Evelyn Brunton > > evelyn_brunton@yahoo.ca > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

In a message dated 1/16/2007 5:29:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Mainelyspicers@aol.com writes: Their parents Freeman Benjamin and Josephine Banfill White were married in the Freewill Baptist Church in Barnston on April 1, 1866. I would appreciate hearing from anyone with knowledge of this family or suggestions as to where I might find the birth records. Thank you. For those interested, that Free Will Baptist church is still standing. I have photos. E-mail me if interested Join the AATF. It matters! David B. Graham President, Pays du Nord Chapter American Association of Teachers of French 344 Trim Road Morrisonville, NY 12962 Home phone: 518-563-1779 E-mail: davidg8809@aol.com

Evelyn: As one who has transcribed a few pages in the 1901 (although not the one you mention) I may be able to clarify a couple of things about transcriptions. The instructuctions regarding transcribing are to transcribe EXACTLY what is written, even if that is known to be incorrect. That may be the situation your case below. I know of several instances in material that I have transcribed where what is written is incorrect when compared to my knowledge of the genealogy of the particular individual. Often its only a phonetic difference in spelling but I have many cases when the name written is not even close to that found in other records. Often ages are off by many years. The fundamental reason for transcribing exactly what is written (as opposed to what we think SHOULD be written) is that someone using the transcript should have access to a true record of the original, completely untainted by anyone else' personal view, knowledge or opinion. Very occasionally, future research may reveal that the 'erroneous' record was indeed correct and that it was our present knowledge that was flawed. I have not examined the record you refer to but I'm sure that if what is actually written in the original matches your comments to the transcriber that they will make an appropriate change. Even if they do not agree with you regarding what is actually written, they will almost always add their explanatory comment to your own. All comments remain with the record and are available for everyone to see. The biggest risk is that the transcriber may take a while to go back to the database and look for comments. It has been several months since I looked for comments on my own work and I thank you very much for reminding me to do so. (One thing missing in Automated Genealogy is that do not send us copies of comments when they are made so we have to go and seek them out.) FYI: When you do a name search at Automated Genealogy it also lists many other surnames that are similar. You do have the option to check off those that you also wish to include in the returns. I urge you to always mark off any names that look even vaguely similar. I've found many a useful record by checking like that. David E. > -----Original Message----- > From: qc-etanglo-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:qc-etanglo-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Evelyn Brunton > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 16:22 > To: qc-etanglo@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [QC-ETANGLO] 1851 Census available through Ancestry.com > > > Hi, > I have perused the 1901 Census for Shefford County. My > grandfather, grandmoth, & two uncles are listed in > Shefford District #192, Subdistrict M2, Page 1. > Transcriber Sharon Nobe, Proof Reader Eileen Labonte. > The original has a letter overwritten another letter > to make Brunton look like Baunton (the r & a being > indistict) However, I know for certain it is my > grandparents & granduncles, and the letter should be > an r making the surname BRUNTON. > Unless this is correct, searches for the name Brunton > will not be successful, and in fact the original > record will not be read correctly. > Although I made a correction as directed on the item, > I do not know for sure whether the change will be > made. It is important that transcribers will make the > necessary changes when someone with intimate knowledge > of the names steps forward & requests the change. > Thanks for setting the records straight. > Evelyn Brunton > evelyn_brunton@yahoo.ca > >

I am looking for birth records for a family that live in Stanstead County from 1840-1880. They lived in Barford, which I now understand is part of Coaticook, and in Barnston. The names and birth dates are: Elwin Benedict White born March 17, 1867 in Barford Forrest Elbridge White born Feb. 22, 1870 in Barford Jennie Lind White born Oct. 22, 1871 in Barford Lillian Grace White born May 22, 1874 in Coaticook Everett David white born June 19, 1875 in Barford Their parents Freeman Benjamin and Josephine Banfill White were married in the Freewill Baptist Church in Barnston on April 1, 1866. I would appreciate hearing from anyone with knowledge of this family or suggestions as to where I might find the birth records. Thank you. Carolyn Spicer Lake Wales, Fl. mainelyspicers@aol.com

Hi, I have perused the 1901 Census for Shefford County. My grandfather, grandmoth, & two uncles are listed in Shefford District #192, Subdistrict M2, Page 1. Transcriber Sharon Nobe, Proof Reader Eileen Labonte. The original has a letter overwritten another letter to make Brunton look like Baunton (the r & a being indistict) However, I know for certain it is my grandparents & granduncles, and the letter should be an r making the surname BRUNTON. Unless this is correct, searches for the name Brunton will not be successful, and in fact the original record will not be read correctly. Although I made a correction as directed on the item, I do not know for sure whether the change will be made. It is important that transcribers will make the necessary changes when someone with intimate knowledge of the names steps forward & requests the change. Thanks for setting the records straight. Evelyn Brunton evelyn_brunton@yahoo.ca --- leslie nutbrown <lnutbrown@videotron.ca> wrote: > If you can be patient, the automated genealogy > website > (http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.html) > will eventually have the > 1851 census and it will be free just like the 1901 > and 1911 census are. > Better yet, become a volunteer to help finish the > 1911 census and the sooner > we can get started on 1851. > > Leslie Nutbrown > Sherbrooke > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Just an interesting addition to earlier email. Source: 41.0049 Year of b. m. or d.: 1815 Event: Baptism Surname: Place Given: Sarah Spouse: Father: Samuel, late - note that Polly is widowed by 1815 and the child is baptised in 1839 by the same Minister Occupation: Residence: Mother: Polly Bride's Residence: Birth date: 1815-01-15 Baptism date: 1839-04-18 Marriage date: Death date: Burial date: Witnesses: McClatchie, Charles; Nichols, John; Notes: Church: Wesleyan Methodist Congregations in the Russelltown Circuit Minister: B. Hitchcock Kathy Campbell wrote: >I've been told repeatedly that my great-great grandmother, Polly (RAYMOND) >BRUNSON, was born supposedly in Alburg, VT, 19 Sept. 1804 (she died in >Dundee, Quebec). I can not find ANY records for Raymonds in Alburg records, >but I was recently told that there might be a possibility that she was >actually born somewhere in the Eastern Townships. > >It's also interesting that the only censuses I've seen for Quebec show her >birthplace as Quebec. > >Has anyone come across any Raymond families in the ET around that time???? >And, unfortunately, her death record does not have her parents names on it. > >Thank you. >Kathy Campbell > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

As someone that has been chasing the Brunson,Bronson,Brownson groups for a few years, I can understand your frustrations. I'm back tracking on Riley George Brownson/Bronson/Brunson who married Jane Elizabeth (Lizzie) Audette in Sutton in 1879 He went by George, but is buried as Riley George Br,etc I have the descending history to present and it includes an Arnold Baker Bronson which could perhaps mean there is a marriage with Bronson/Baker or Bronson/Arnold back there somewhere, but can't prove any of the possibles. There is also this item posted to a "pay web site" which may well explain the Riley given name of my target search. Do you have any links that might connect us? Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1922 <javascript:go7921_486754()> Birth, Marriage, & Death <http://content.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=View&r=an&dbid=7921&iid=ONMS932_124-0329&pid=2480098&ssrc=&fn=George+Ferris&ln=Brownson&st=g> Name: George Ferris Brownson Spouse: Eliz Ann Lizzie Riley Birth: year <javascript:go7921_486754()> - location <javascript:go7921_486754()> Birth: location <javascript:go7921_486754()> Marriage: date <javascript:go7921_486754()> - location <javascript:go7921_486754()>, Perth, Ontario, Canada In the Huntingdon records there is this marriage which may be a clue. She may have been a widow when she married Horace. It is one of the only records that I have found also for Raymond in the area in the early 1800's http://chateauguay.website.epidirect.com/results.asp?ID=30495 Source: 41.0034 Year of b. m. or d.: 1838 Event: Marriage Surname: Raymond Given: Abraham Spouse: Place, Polly Father: Occupation: Residence: Hinchinbrook Mother: Bride's Residence: Russeltown Birth date: Baptism date: Marriage date: 1838-01-13 Death date: Burial date: Witnesses: Raymond, Abraham; Raymond, Polly; Hitchcock, Jane; Welch, Walter J.; Notes: [The Church copy says 1838-01-13, but the record appears between October 1838 and February 1839] Church: Wesleyan Methodist Congregations in the Russelltown Circuit Minister: B. Hitchcock Kathy Campbell wrote: >I've been told repeatedly that my great-great grandmother, Polly (RAYMOND) >BRUNSON, was born supposedly in Alburg, VT, 19 Sept. 1804 (she died in >Dundee, Quebec). I can not find ANY records for Raymonds in Alburg records, >but I was recently told that there might be a possibility that she was >actually born somewhere in the Eastern Townships. > >It's also interesting that the only censuses I've seen for Quebec show her >birthplace as Quebec. > >Has anyone come across any Raymond families in the ET around that time???? >And, unfortunately, her death record does not have her parents names on it. > >Thank you. >Kathy Campbell > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

I've been told repeatedly that my great-great grandmother, Polly (RAYMOND) BRUNSON, was born supposedly in Alburg, VT, 19 Sept. 1804 (she died in Dundee, Quebec). I can not find ANY records for Raymonds in Alburg records, but I was recently told that there might be a possibility that she was actually born somewhere in the Eastern Townships. It's also interesting that the only censuses I've seen for Quebec show her birthplace as Quebec. Has anyone come across any Raymond families in the ET around that time???? And, unfortunately, her death record does not have her parents names on it. Thank you. Kathy Campbell

Well, David Ellis has been busy once again, and has transcribed cemetery records found within Alburg, VT records. Our folks moved back and forth over the border and while some families began in Alburg and ended up in the Townships, there were some that went the reverse route. I have placed his transcription in the Archives on the web site, but if you want to check them out quickly now: http://www.rootsweb.com/~qceastwn/archives/alburg27773.htm Questions, corrections, etc., should be directed to David. His email address is on the site. Many thanks, once again, David, for your additions to the Archives, and your patience while I find the time and ability to upload them. --Pam

Mat. I am using a webtv and that is why I am probably having so much trouble. Still want to thank you for doing such a good job. Gwen Don't judge folks by their relatives.

Does anyone on this list have a current e-mail address for Fred Blakely? It has been several years since I last communicated with him regarding the Blakely lines. Sandy Williams

Gwen I am surprised at the trouble that you are having. All pages are under 1 MB in size. What page are you trying to access that is giving you this message? Try the A's which is the smallest list at 225 KB. The message may mean that it is wider than what your screen can display but can be seen by moving the bottom slider. My computer is 8 years old so is hardly state of the art. I use Windows 2000. Good luck, Mat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwen Emery" <GwendolynFromFL@webtv.net> To: <qc-etanglo@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [QC-ETANGLO] 19thC Sherbrooke Newspaper bmd's > Mat. I want to thank you for doing such a great job. I am having trouble > getting past "this page is too big to be shown completely" . Will you be > putting in an index where we can do one name or letter at a time ? Gwen > Emery > > Don't judge folks by their relatives. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message