If you can scan it and send it large enough for me to read, I'll have a go at it. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy" <nand@comcast.net> To: <qc-etanglo@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: [QC-ETANGLO] need translation | Hello. | | Is there anyone on this list that has access to the free Drouin that | can translate from french to english for me. It is for 1802 St. | Hyacinthe Notre-Dame-du-Rosaire image 21 for Louis Chagnon. | | Thank you | | Nancy | | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

Hello. Is there anyone on this list that has access to the free Drouin that can translate from french to english for me. It is for 1802 St. Hyacinthe Notre-Dame-du-Rosaire image 21 for Louis Chagnon. Thank you Nancy

A Daniel Brown was married to Lucinda Filer on Jan. 6, 1824 in Alburgh, Vermont. Therefore, this Lucinda Brown was possibly an aunt by marriage & your Lucinda Brown was named after her? Perhaps not related, but I remembered that entry from the ET website.

>From the various Notarial repertoires recently put up by Ancestry I have one that is puzzling me. Does anyone have any idea or information why Leonard Schoolcraft (of St. Armand/Potton) would be using an alias of "Stone" or how to find out about that? Notarial Records, Edmund Clement, #3204, #3205, Apr 12th 1855: Exchange ?sutre? Mefsrs James Slade Allen junior and Leonard Peter Schoolcraft alias Stone Notarial Records, Edmund Clement, #3205, Apr 12th 1855: Deed of Sale from Mr. Leonard Peter Schoolcraft alias Stone to Robert McCackill Esq. Background: Leonard is enumerated in St. Armand East in 1852 and Potton in 1861 and thereafter. While there is a substantial marital relationship between Schoolcraft and Stone in St. Ignace de Stanbridge it occurred in a branch it was with Leonard Schoolcraft's great aunt and thus unlikely to be significant.

In that line of the family twins and triplets were common as well as red haired children. I live in Hanksville Vt in the winter and Swanton Vt in the summer but in St.Albans there was a set of Vol that brought the tracey line back to the person who stabbed Thomas Beckett if you can believe that, and some Norse viking people, it had alot of info. And there were DAR lines in it as well. Akiens go back to a Rogers family from Braddford Vt, said to be related to the Rogers Rangers leader. Its' kind of ironic for me because my fathers' side is Abenaki and Mohawk and Tories. Where as my mothers' side is full of Revolutionary War supporters and Indian fighters. There was a Tracey that was brother to ours who lived in Franklin Vt who was a "basket maker" so someone on line jumped on that and tried to claim he was abenaki. When I tried to correct that assumption I was accused of being racist. I am a card holding abenaki and die hard pow wower. In some of the old genealogies I have found statements (Millers and Hillikers) that the families just happened to wander that far above the border and didnt know that they were in Canada, and it just so happened to be in the late 1780s. In some cases I wonder if that is why people did not list their parents. In the case of my ancestor Rufus Reynolds who lived in Franklin Vt both his grandfathers had land confiscated in Vt- so perhaps that is why he never listed parents in his marriage document. Carollee MK <pilgrimkin@yahoo.com> wrote: Jonathan Tracy was brother to my g, g, grandfather, William H. Tracy. I think William was the youngest of 14 children of Daniel Tracy and Hannah Burgess. Daniel was married the 1st time to a Lois Hurlburt. After Lois died he married Hannah Burgess of Charlotte, Vermont. I am also related to the Miller's via Sarah Miller. Sarah Miller m. Solomon Brock (they are my ancestors). Solomon and Sarah's son, William E. Brock m. Emma/Emily Carrow (also seen as Corrow and Caron). Willam and Emma Brock's son, Merl Brock, was my grandfather. Sarah Miller was a triplet. Her mother died in child birth. Her half sisters, Freelove and Melvina Miller, married brothers, Chester Percy Tracy and Jonathan Tracy. All were daughters of Thaddeus Miller, of Glen Sutton, Quebec. Thaddeus married 3 times. I have a copy of Chester and Melvina's marriage record (photocopy of the town book page where their marriage is recorded) of their marriage at Troy, Vermont. You and I would be distant cousins, and actually from two lines. I also have a cousin, Sally, who is a descendant of Jonathan Tracy via his daughter, Emma Tracy that married Joel McNall. She lives in Maine. There is a story about one of Jonathan's daughters (Henrietta-?) taking in a child that wasn't hers and raising him as her own. He only found out about her not being his mother after her death, by what was said in her will/estate. I have William Tracy's obituary. It lists his brother, Jonathan, who I think came to the funeral (have to dig it out and see). William died 29 April 1908, at Johnson, Vermont. He is buried there, in Johnson, in the family plot. I have a family photo of William, Lucinda, and their 7 children. There is one woman sitting next to Lucinda that my family cannot identify who she is. I thought maybe she might be a sister to Lucinda--but who knows. We do not have any information on Lucinda's family (Brown) to know if she had siblings, where her parents lived, died, buried, etc. I have my great grandmother Carrie (Tracy) Smalley's DAR papers. The patriot ancestor is John Adams of Medway, Mass. This is the same line of Adams that connects to the president, John Adams, via the common ancestory, Henry Adams. This is via Matilda Adams, mother of Daniel Tracy. I won't keep rambling on....I have done a lot of research on these branches. Interesting...... --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.

Jonathan Tracy was brother to my g, g, grandfather, William H. Tracy. I think William was the youngest of 14 children of Daniel Tracy and Hannah Burgess. Daniel was married the 1st time to a Lois Hurlburt. After Lois died he married Hannah Burgess of Charlotte, Vermont. I am also related to the Miller's via Sarah Miller. Sarah Miller m. Solomon Brock (they are my ancestors). Solomon and Sarah's son, William E. Brock m. Emma/Emily Carrow (also seen as Corrow and Caron). Willam and Emma Brock's son, Merl Brock, was my grandfather. Sarah Miller was a triplet. Her mother died in child birth. Her half sisters, Freelove and Melvina Miller, married brothers, Chester Percy Tracy and Jonathan Tracy. All were daughters of Thaddeus Miller, of Glen Sutton, Quebec. Thaddeus married 3 times. I have a copy of Chester and Melvina's marriage record (photocopy of the town book page where their marriage is recorded) of their marriage at Troy, Vermont. You and I would be distant cousins, and actually from two lines. I also have a cousin, Sally, who is a descendant of Jonathan Tracy via his daughter, Emma Tracy that married Joel McNall. She lives in Maine. There is a story about one of Jonathan's daughters (Henrietta-?) taking in a child that wasn't hers and raising him as her own. He only found out about her not being his mother after her death, by what was said in her will/estate. I have William Tracy's obituary. It lists his brother, Jonathan, who I think came to the funeral (have to dig it out and see). William died 29 April 1908, at Johnson, Vermont. He is buried there, in Johnson, in the family plot. I have a family photo of William, Lucinda, and their 7 children. There is one woman sitting next to Lucinda that my family cannot identify who she is. I thought maybe she might be a sister to Lucinda--but who knows. We do not have any information on Lucinda's family (Brown) to know if she had siblings, where her parents lived, died, buried, etc. I have my great grandmother Carrie (Tracy) Smalley's DAR papers. The patriot ancestor is John Adams of Medway, Mass. This is the same line of Adams that connects to the president, John Adams, via the common ancestory, Henry Adams. This is via Matilda Adams, mother of Daniel Tracy. I won't keep rambling on....I have done a lot of research on these branches. Interesting...... --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.

My grandmother was Lillian McGown and Charles was her grandfather.Mary Traceys' father was Jonathan Tracey married Freelove Miller who was from Sutton Quebec. I believe this is a well published family and I believe her father was Thaddeus Miller married to Polly Aiken in Sutton in 1838. So the reason they married in Sutton is because Miller family was quite large. My mother had always said we were related to the Browns so now I know why Carollee MK <pilgrimkin@yahoo.com> wrote: Pam wrote: "There was a Mary Ann Tracey of Sheldon, VT who married Charles Hamilton McGowan, of Sheldon, VT, 25 May 1876 at Sutton Methodist. Maybe relatives were listed on the record? You still have a day or so to check those records on Ancestry before they go to paid subscriber only. " If both were of Sheldon, don't know why they married in Sutton unless family might have been there, most likely someone in her family. I assume when you checked VT records, you checked the master index for Tracey/Tracy (easier than Brown), and not just West Enosburg records? REPLY: I will see if I can find Mary Ann Tracey's marriage record. I don't live in or near Vermont. The Vermont records were searched for me (I paid them to look for Lucinda's birth). Also, someone volunteered to check the LDS film for Sheldon, VT for me and could not find the marriage. Guess I can write to Public Records and see if they can locate their marriage. I would like to figure out what Canadian towns are just across the boarder from Sheldon, Enosburg, area. With the free access to the Drouin records I was hoping to find something. Thank you to all who replied to me on this. --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.

Pam wrote: "There was a Mary Ann Tracey of Sheldon, VT who married Charles Hamilton McGowan, of Sheldon, VT, 25 May 1876 at Sutton Methodist. Maybe relatives were listed on the record? You still have a day or so to check those records on Ancestry before they go to paid subscriber only. " If both were of Sheldon, don't know why they married in Sutton unless family might have been there, most likely someone in her family. I assume when you checked VT records, you checked the master index for Tracey/Tracy (easier than Brown), and not just West Enosburg records? REPLY: I will see if I can find Mary Ann Tracey's marriage record. I don't live in or near Vermont. The Vermont records were searched for me (I paid them to look for Lucinda's birth). Also, someone volunteered to check the LDS film for Sheldon, VT for me and could not find the marriage. Guess I can write to Public Records and see if they can locate their marriage. I would like to figure out what Canadian towns are just across the boarder from Sheldon, Enosburg, area. With the free access to the Drouin records I was hoping to find something. Thank you to all who replied to me on this. --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.

There was a Mary Ann Tracey of Sheldon, VT who married Charles Hamilton McGowan, of Sheldon, VT, 25 May 1876 at Sutton Methodist. Maybe relatives were listed on the record? You still have a day or so to check those records on Ancestry before they go to paid subscriber only. If both were of Sheldon, don't know why they married in Sutton unless family might have been there, most likely someone in her family. I assume when you checked VT records, you checked the master index for Tracey/Tracy (easier than Brown), and not just West Enosburg records? carollee reynolds <carollee57us@yahoo.com> wrote: Ohh Dear there are tons of Browns because of their Loyalist affiliation. I am related to your Tracy Line, there are alot of the Brown familys near Alburgh Vt try the Standbridge East Musuem or Marlene Simmons website. MK wrote: Hello, Is anyone researching BROWN located near the Vermont boarder? My ancestor was (Sarah) Lucinda BROWN. She married William H. TRACY, b. Sheldon, VT, son of Daniel TRACY and Hannah BURGESS. Lucinda BROWN is listed in the 1860 census at Enosburg, VT, living with her future husband's uncle, Hazen TRACY. William and Lucinda TRACY lived in Enosburg, Vermont, then moved to Belvidere, Vermont, and both died in Johnson, Vermont, and are buried there. Lucinda (BROWN) TRACY'S obituary says nothing about her parents. According to Lucinda (BROWN) TRACY's death record, her parents were William BROWN, b. Canada, and Jane FLEMING, b. England. Lucinda was born 12-25-1843 at Franklin, VT. I have tried to find her birth record with no luck. Lucinda's marriage record to William TRACY cannot be found either. William stated in his Civil War pension file papers that they were married October 11/12, 1861 at West Enosburg, Vermont. I cannot find William BROWN, b. Canada, with wife, Jane in the 1850 and later census. I am wondering if they went back and forth across the boarder and perhaps were in Canada when the census taker came by-----a theory. Just wish I knew where in Canada to look. I am guessing possibly close to Vermont, maybe near Franklin County, Vermont, where Lucinda seems to have been. ? Pam Wood Waugh pam@woodwaugh.com or 730 Dunhill Drive waughp@yahoo.com Orlando, FL 32825 http://www.woodwaugh.com - Family Lines http://www.rootsweb.com/~qceastwn/ - Eastern Townships of QC Research

Ohh Dear there are tons of Browns because of their Loyalist affiliation. I am related to your Tracy Line, there are alot of the Brown familys near Alburgh Vt try the Standbridge East Musuem or Marlene Simmons website. MK <pilgrimkin@yahoo.com> wrote: Hello, Is anyone researching BROWN located near the Vermont boarder? My ancestor was (Sarah) Lucinda BROWN. She married William H. TRACY, b. Sheldon, VT, son of Daniel TRACY and Hannah BURGESS. Lucinda BROWN is listed in the 1860 census at Enosburg, VT, living with her future husband's uncle, Hazen TRACY. William and Lucinda TRACY lived in Enosburg, Vermont, then moved to Belvidere, Vermont, and both died in Johnson, Vermont, and are buried there. Lucinda (BROWN) TRACY'S obituary says nothing about her parents. According to Lucinda (BROWN) TRACY's death record, her parents were William BROWN, b. Canada, and Jane FLEMING, b. England. Lucinda was born 12-25-1843 at Franklin, VT. I have tried to find her birth record with no luck. Lucinda's marriage record to William TRACY cannot be found either. William stated in his Civil War pension file papers that they were married October 11/12, 1861 at West Enosburg, Vermont. I cannot find William BROWN, b. Canada, with wife, Jane in the 1850 and later census. I am wondering if they went back and forth across the boarder and perhaps were in Canada when the census taker came by-----a theory. Just wish I knew where in Canada to look. I am guessing possibly close to Vermont, maybe near Franklin County, Vermont, where Lucinda seems to have been. ? --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A.

Hello Listers, Thanks to Drouin I have found the following: Samuel Thompson and wife Jane Gordon lived in Chertsey in the 1881 census. Samuel died in 1899 in Rawdon, Quebec b: abt. 1812 Jane Gordon died in 1896 buried in Rawdon, Quebec (from Northern Ireland) b: abt. 1814 Their family: (1) William Thompson b: abt. 1843 married Ann Jane Morgan: children Ann Jane b: abt. 1869 married Albert Barrette children William, George, Frances, Hildred, and Alice. Rebecca b: June 11, 1870 d: 8 Feb 1956, Rawdon; married George Brennan child: Florence Robert Roark (Rourke) Maria b: May 15, 1872 no further info Sarah Alice b: 13 Dec 1874 d: 17 Nov 1880 Rawdon, Quebec James Samuel b: 7 Dec 1876 d: 26 Dec 1955 Rawdon married Roseanna Bourgeois 12 Jan 1909 children: Laura Ann b: 1909 William Malcolm b: 1910 Bertha May b: 1915 Mildred Irene b: 1917 Violet Doris b: 1921 William Francis b: June 03, 1879 no further information. (2) Sarah b: 1848 d: 1849 (3) Margaret b: 29 Nov 1852 no further information (4) Mary b: ? married Henry McColm 1883 (5) James b: ? married Caroline Steele bef. 1880 one child Matilda b: 1880 I have 2 additional children - Samuel b: abt. 1840 removed to Vermont (found no church record in Rawdon) Jennie b: abt. 1857 removed to Vermont (found no church record in Rawdon this is where I found the connection to Rawdon, Quebec in VT vital records. From what I have seen there are no census records for 1851 of Rawdon so I couldn't check for more children. Is there a census recorded for the 1860's for Rawdon? Any additional information on this family would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading this. Nancy

Hello, Is anyone researching BROWN located near the Vermont boarder? My ancestor was (Sarah) Lucinda BROWN. She married William H. TRACY, b. Sheldon, VT, son of Daniel TRACY and Hannah BURGESS. Lucinda BROWN is listed in the 1860 census at Enosburg, VT, living with her future husband's uncle, Hazen TRACY. William and Lucinda TRACY lived in Enosburg, Vermont, then moved to Belvidere, Vermont, and both died in Johnson, Vermont, and are buried there. Lucinda (BROWN) TRACY'S obituary says nothing about her parents. According to Lucinda (BROWN) TRACY's death record, her parents were William BROWN, b. Canada, and Jane FLEMING, b. England. Lucinda was born 12-25-1843 at Franklin, VT. I have tried to find her birth record with no luck. Lucinda's marriage record to William TRACY cannot be found either. William stated in his Civil War pension file papers that they were married October 11/12, 1861 at West Enosburg, Vermont. I cannot find William BROWN, b. Canada, with wife, Jane in the 1850 and later census. I am wondering if they went back and forth across the boarder and perhaps were in Canada when the census taker came by-----a theory. Just wish I knew where in Canada to look. I am guessing possibly close to Vermont, maybe near Franklin County, Vermont, where Lucinda seems to have been. ? --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.

Can someone kindly tell me how to access lists of passengers arriving in Montreal and Quebec City after 1860? Thanks so much Lois Kinnear

Hello Everyone, Reminder: The QFHS conference in June will be available at the cheaper rates only untl March 31st. Yes there will be a speaker dealing with Eastern Twp research as well as an expert speaking on land registry offices & how to access data via the internet, from anywhere in Qc. For those of you who don't already know, it is very hard (& expensive, if the notary is known) to gain access to notary records after 1900. The land registers often include "wills" & such - & yes these can all be accessed on line. The speaker will tell us how to do this. Since I last informed you of the conference, two new speakers have been added. For all details please go to www.qfhs.ca & look for Roots 2007. Bye now Pennie

Greetings! Pam.... now look what you've done! ;-) Husband in Vancouver all week on work: - kids won't get fed - diapers won't get changed - can't go grocery shopping or pay bills (too busy with ancestry) - I'll be up all night searching for more records and getting my use out of it till the end of March. Thanks A Lot!! Kathleen Brock Gonna Be Sleepless in Edmonton tonight!

I know the feeling. I didn't realize it ended the 31st. My husband got soup tonight. He travels a lot, and wouldn't you KNOW that this week isn't one of them! Darn. I'm thinking of taking a day off from work later this week....too much to do! I'm having a ball trying to go through notaries that I never ordered before. Wish all the ones I want were there, but -- hey, a few new ones that I had been considering will just have to do. Pam ;-) Kathleen Brock <hiball@telusplanet.net> wrote: Greetings! Pam.... now look what you've done! ;-) Husband in Vancouver all week on work: - kids won't get fed - diapers won't get changed - can't go grocery shopping or pay bills (too busy with ancestry) - I'll be up all night searching for more records and getting my use out of it till the end of March. Thanks A Lot!! Kathleen Brock Gonna Be Sleepless in Edmonton tonight! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Pam Wood Waugh pam@woodwaugh.com or 730 Dunhill Drive waughp@yahoo.com Orlando, FL 32825 http://www.woodwaugh.com - Family Lines http://www.rootsweb.com/~qceastwn/ - Eastern Townships of QC Research

Linda - Print it out and send it to me Jim jklk@sympatico ----- Original Message ----- From: <TheMoraisTree@aol.com> To: <qc-etanglo@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [QC-ETANGLO] Quebec_Drouin Records_Ancestry.ca | With all this talk about these records I started to look and found | information about my | GG-Grandmother and some child she had that I didn't know any thing about. I | just wish I could read French. | | Linda | | | | ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. | Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. | | ------------------------------- | To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QC-ETANGLO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message |

With all this talk about these records I started to look and found information about my GG-Grandmother and some child she had that I didn't know any thing about. I just wish I could read French. Linda ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Is there a special search technique for the search. I have accesses the free period site and have entered the of Place (Town name) and year +/- and tried the church name but it keeps coming back that there are no matches, even with the data from the message on this site that referred to Mansonville Quebec 1879 and it too said no matches. What am I doing wrong. I am specific to St. Armand, Frelighsburg and Bedford Quebec. Hope some one can help. Many thanks, Keith. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.18/733 - Release Date: 25/03/2007 11:07 AM

Researching my Grandmother (paternal side) who was born in Quebec on 2nd December,1880. Her name was Mabel Grace GILIGAN and she appears on 1881 Canadian Census for Stanbridge,Missisquoi,Quebec aged 1 year and residing with the following: Edward GILIGAN,(56) -Married -Irish Origin - born Quebec -Labourer - Church of England Ester GILIGAN (34) -Married - English Origin -born Quebec -Methodist (presume wife of Edward) Mary GILIGAN (28) -single -English Origin -born Quebec -Church of England Edward GILIGAN (13) - English Origin -born Quebec -Church of England Eddy I GILIGAN (11) -English Origin -born Quebec -Church of England Mabel Grace GILIGAN (1) -- my Grandmother. Mabel Grace GILIGAN was a Nuresmaid to young children of a family called McVean who were living in Canada (Presumably Quebec) and when that family decided to return to Scotland, she accompanied them. At that time she was 14 years old(1894/5). I am attempting to discover when and how she travelled to Scotland -ship,dates etc. I understand Mabel Grace GILIGAN may have been illegitimate. Her mother was away from home and working in Quebec and she was apparently brought up by her Grandfather(Edward GILIGAN?) and a step Grandmother (Ester GILIGAN?). She had supposedly a sister but not known wherther older or younger but no sister shown on 1881 Census. Who were Edward(13) and Eddy I(11) then? I suspect that the only other female in the household - Mary GILIGAN - may have been the Mother. Mabel Grace GILIGAN, on her wedding Certificate in Scotland gives her Mother`s name as Mary SMITH ! Perhaps her Mother married a Smith after 18881 Census. I am keen to trace the Giligan family after 1881 Census - my Grandmother obviousely did not communicate with the family after coming to Scotland. Mabel Grace GILIGAN married a Gray and died in Scotland in 1966. Would anyone be able to provide information on the family. Was Stanbridge the home of the Giligan family? - have checked the 1911 Canadian Census but no mention of Giligan family in Stanbridge or anywhere else. Any assistance would be appreciated. Regards Jim Gray jim@argyll29.freeserve.co.uk