Greetings Penny & ET Listers!! Any tidbit from a Granby newspaper is a golden nugget for me!! Keep them coming!! Kathleen BROCK Edmonton, AB Pennie Redmile wrote: > Hello Listers, > > Today I was at the National Library of Quebec & was looking at some old > Granby Leader Mail/s ! I don't have much time to do this.. but in the > future I'll cull out anything I see of interest - that is "different" . > > 1896, Oct 3 page 3 under the heading "among our neighbours" > Chester Aiken of Dunkin caught a 300 lb black bear the other day. > +++++++ > > 1896 Oct 3 & Oct 4 - two mentions of Mr LS Channell of the Cookshire > Chronicle is obliged to go to Colorado on account of his health which is > very bad. He will be there until Spring. > > ++++++ > > If you want me to cull out anything like this that I see -- in E Twps > papers..in the future..I'll do so. Haven't a lot of time to give this but > it might prove interesting to everyone to see different items that give a > broader view of what life was like in the E Twps yrs ago. I don't think we > had bears this far west --in my life time.. though anyone who's read the > local histories knows they were there in the early yrs. > > Bye now..Pennie

Very interesting and quite a surprise too. Thanks to you. Richard Labelle ----- Original Message ----- From: Pennie Redmile <predmile@total.net> To: <QC-ETANGLO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 11:31 PM Subject: [QC-ETANGLO] nespapers > Hello Listers, > > Today I was at the National Library of Quebec & was looking at some old > Granby Leader Mail/s ! I don't have much time to do this.. but in the > future I'll cull out anything I see of interest - that is "different" . > > 1896, Oct 3 page 3 under the heading "among our neighbours" > Chester Aiken of Dunkin caught a 300 lb black bear the other day. > +++++++ > > 1896 Oct 3 & Oct 4 - two mentions of Mr LS Channell of the Cookshire > Chronicle is obliged to go to Colorado on account of his health which is > very bad. He will be there until Spring. > > ++++++ > > If you want me to cull out anything like this that I see -- in E Twps > papers..in the future..I'll do so. Haven't a lot of time to give this but > it might prove interesting to everyone to see different items that give a > broader view of what life was like in the E Twps yrs ago. I don't think we > had bears this far west --in my life time.. though anyone who's read the > local histories knows they were there in the early yrs. > > Bye now..Pennie > > > > > > > >

Hello Listers, Today I was at the National Library of Quebec & was looking at some old Granby Leader Mail/s ! I don't have much time to do this.. but in the future I'll cull out anything I see of interest - that is "different" . 1896, Oct 3 page 3 under the heading "among our neighbours" Chester Aiken of Dunkin caught a 300 lb black bear the other day. +++++++ 1896 Oct 3 & Oct 4 - two mentions of Mr LS Channell of the Cookshire Chronicle is obliged to go to Colorado on account of his health which is very bad. He will be there until Spring. ++++++ If you want me to cull out anything like this that I see -- in E Twps papers..in the future..I'll do so. Haven't a lot of time to give this but it might prove interesting to everyone to see different items that give a broader view of what life was like in the E Twps yrs ago. I don't think we had bears this far west --in my life time.. though anyone who's read the local histories knows they were there in the early yrs. Bye now..Pennie

> -----Original Message----- > From: Patricia Kilborn [mailto:search@together.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 11:32 AM > To: QC-ETANGLO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [QC-ETANGLO] To Historical Societies > > > I would like to make Historical Societies aware of a problem that the > Memphremago Historical Society of Newport, Vermont has recently > come across. There is a Man from the state of Massachusetts that has > been either borrowing from libraries or purchasing books that contain > Pictorial Histories and he is scanning the pictures from these books > and putting the pictures on Stationery and Post Cards etc. > and selling them > to Gift Shops for his own profit. > Copyright infringement is the best (only?) recourse. That requires persuading the copyright owner to take action. If its really old material (over 60 years I believe) then copyright lapses and nothing can be done. [NOT A LAWYER'S OPINION - just my job sometimes brings me in contact with these kinds of problems.]

I would like to make Historical Societies aware of a problem that the Memphremago Historical Society of Newport, Vermont has recently come across. There is a Man from the state of Massachusetts that has been either borrowing from libraries or purchasing books that contain Pictorial Histories and he is scanning the pictures from these books and putting the pictures on Stationery and Post Cards etc. and selling them to Gift Shops for his own profit. Barbara Malloy the author of the book "Newport And The Northeast Kingdom" has been talking to the publishers of the book and is in the process of finding out what we can legally say about this man to prevent him from gaining from her venture. The only reason I am placing this note on this list is that I thought other Societies may have the same problem and not know it. This certainly could happen in any area including Canada. We will be contacting Societies with the full information as soon as we have the letter's wording checked by a lawyer.

> Looking for information on David Pare' and Edesse Anne Gagnon. They had a > daughter, Marianne Helene Pare' who was born 19 Jul 1849. This elusive family > later live in Malone, NY. Some possibilities? David PARE' Sex: M Event(s): Christening: Abt. 1825 Of, Quebec Parents: Source Information: Film Number: 2034341 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx David PARE Christening: 13 Feb 1820 Saint Joseph De Beauce, Beauce, Quebec Parents: Father: Joseph PARE Mother: Marie Rose POULIN Source Information: Batch number: 5000569 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Edesse Anne GAGNON Event(s): Birth: Abt. 1825 Quebec Parents: Source Information: Film Number: 1985519 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Rich > rsbessette@aol.com -- Julia Dalgleish Sauter, Saskatoon, Canada Searching Dalgleish, Rutherford & Heriot in Scotland Searching Thackeray & McQuarrie in Ontario........... To some it's just a hobby, to Me it's much more, I learn the joys and heartaches of those that went before. They loved, they lost, they laughed, they wept - and now, for me, They live again in spirit, around the FAMILY TREE.

Hi Melody: I'll add these two names to the website list. The time frame is quite off, but I thought you might like to see this reference to Ajax, Ontario from my book. Any trauma these young children experienced by being separated from their families and raised in institutions would have been compounded by their deportation. They were sent to a cold and inhospitable country. Children are more likely to reflect their traumatic experiences in their behaviour rather than their words. Bed-wetting was a prevalent indicator of their responses to traumatic experiences. An Ontario Immigration official noted that two-thirds of the British Home Children suffered from enuresis. He referred to this as their "dirty habits" that were proof of their immoral parents' lives. Many children who did not overcome their enuresis were deported back to England (Parr 103-107). "My first farm job was at East Angus, Quebec where they treated me as if I were a dumb farm animal. When the farm owner had visitors, he brought us English boys into the house. He ridiculed us because of our accents. I was there for about a year. They took me by horse and wagon to Sherbrooke, where I saw Mr. Keeley to get another job." (Fred Snow) Snow, Perry. Neither Waif Nor Stray: The Search for a Stolen Identity. Universal Publishers, USA, 2000 p.30 http://www.upublish.com/books/snow.htm Melody(Knapp) Campagna http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/m/Melody-A-Campagna/

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6870F05710A309AA2CBCDA84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings!! Something to chuckle about! Kathy --------------6870F05710A309AA2CBCDA84 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <lynn.heale@sympatico.ca> Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com ([204.101.251.53]) by priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.11 201-229-116-111) with ESMTP id <20000321034943.HSGA781.priv-edtnes09-hme0.telusplanet.net@smtp11.bellglobal.com> for <hiball@planet.eon.net>; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 20:49:43 -0700 Received: from pavilion (ppp17376.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.136.16]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA21010 for <hiball@planet.eon.net>; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:55:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <38D6F230.6F5@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 22:53:20 -0500 From: Vernalyn Morrow Heale <lynn.heale@sympatico.ca> Reply-To: lynn.heale@sympatico.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-SYMPA (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hiball@planet.eon.net Subject: Re: Murphy's Law ... as it applies to genealogy References: <01BF8ED3.2B8D7E00@glenna> <38D3B05E.1D9D@sympatico.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Just a little humour I thought you might enjoy! * Anything that could have burned, did. * The census taker with the clear handwriting and good ink never enumerated your ancestors. * If you find a well documented, illustrious ancestor, you've probably made a mistake. * Your folks hated government and never filled out forms. * The book you need is never indexed, or, if indexed, doesn't include people. * Your families never had attics, much less Bibles or boxes of photos in them. * All real library discoveries are made five minutes before closing, when the copier is broken. * The correctly shelved books and correctly filed forms are never the ones you need. * The person sitting next to you at the research center is finding ancestors every five minutes ... and telling you. * The email address that bounces is the one from a person who listed your exact names. If you find a working address, you aren't related. * Your microfilm reader is the one that squeaks, has to be turned backwards, and doesn't quite focus. * Your cemeteries have no caretaker or records archive. * Alternate spellings and arcane names were your folks' favorite past times. * Or, your folks only knew three names, and used them over and over in every collateral line. * Your sister neglects to mention that the data she gave you, which you have researched, and sent to other researchers, was just a guess with no foundation, and she guessed because she "didn't like leaving that line blank." * Your mother neglects to mention that, "Oh, yes, we knew they changed their name." * Blank genealogy forms never have quite the categories or space you need. * All software packages look good, but immediately have a problem with *your* special case. * Discussions about how to compute cousinship are never resolved. * And finally, it's infinitely easy to get sidetracked doing genealogy (grin). --------------6870F05710A309AA2CBCDA84--

Hi Tucky, Thanks for the information. Does it mention the names of the KERR children and did they die young or was it the mother Marion that died young? Our James Kerr supposably had three or four daughters; Mildred (COTY), Hattie (CLARK), Maude (m. FULLER, then PENNAYER) and Jenima(CARBEE). Of these daughters I have a picture of Hattie and her husband Will CLARK and also the History of Compton County mentions Jenima KERR, daughter of James KERR marrying Alphonso CARBEE who was a councillor in Waterville. That's all I have though. Thanks to Bev in the Waterville area I found the land location I was searching for (Lot 28, Range 1) which is on the border of Compton and Ascot townships. My next plan is to get a copy of a good survey map, pin it on my wall and track these people as precisely as I can! Thanks again, Joan > Joan -- don't know about the Range #1 but checked my History of > Stanstead for KERR - found only one instance of a James C. KERR marrying a > Marion IVES - Marion born August 27, 1835 and 3 children died young. It > does give information of the Ives family - Marion was the daughter of > Isaac Ives, born in Hatley, October 28, 1801 and married Celina Davis. > They settled in Hatley, subsequently removed to Stanstead. She died > September 14, 1837 and on March 10, 1839 he married Lucy Patch. Marion > was a child by the first marriage. > > ______________________________

Hello anyone, I believe I may have the wrong area of Quebec for my search..My ancestors settled in Ormstown, Chateauquay, Beauharnois around 1810-20 some from Scotland and some from Ireland..Most resettled in Essex County middle 1800s.. Some Surnames ARMSTRONG, MULLIN, SELKIRK,ROBERTSON. Please let me know if I have made a mistake and if so could you guide me to the proper Group.. joybat@sympatico.ca Thank you..Joy Bell Tweney...

Joan -- don't know about the Range #1 but checked my History of Stanstead for KERR - found only one instance of a James C. KERR marrying a Marion IVES - Marion born August 27, 1835 and 3 children died young. It does give information of the Ives family - Marion was the daughter of Isaac Ives, born in Hatley, October 28, 1801 and married Celina Davis. They settled in Hatley, subsequently removed to Stanstead. She died September 14, 1837 and on March 10, 1839 he married Lucy Patch. Marion was a child by the first marriage.

I happened to see a copy of "A History of Franklin 1789-1989" in a local second hand store and purchased it. It has a good index on names so if someone on this list wishes me to check for references to someone in early Franklin town, let me know. I emphasis, this just covers the town of Franklin, not the whole county so unless they lived in town they are not going to be mentioned. [As Franklin is right on the border, I'm also posting this to QC-ETANGLO-L.]

Hi Listers, Would some kind person be able to tell me where Lot 28, Range 1, Compton Township would be located? I think it is near North Hatley but am not certain. Is there an online survey map? My ancestor James Kerr purchased 50 acres in the above location in 1854. Thank you, Joan Miller Alberta luxe@techie.com

The following Perkins individuals are buried in the Harvey Cemetery, about halfway between Sutton and Dunham Quebec; just North of the border with Richford, Vermont. George Perkins died March 28, 1848 (51 yr, 3 mo, 25 da) + his wife Caroline (Gibson) Perkins died March 29, 1886 (83 yr, 4 da) + three of their four daughters Orpha M. Perkins died April 3, 1863 (19 yr, 8 mo, 28 da) Elsey Perkins died February 18, 1846 (15 yr, 7 mo) Emily Perkins (Goyette) died October 29, 1898 (77 yr) + her husband Abiger Goyette died January 17, 1885 (54 yr) (their 4th daughter Nancy (Perkins) Spicer is buried in the Farnams Corner Cemetery) (their son Johnson is buried in the East Dunham Cemetary) Samuel Perkins died December 28, 1887 (69th yr) Nathaniel Perkins died July 15, 1843 (67th yr) James Perkins died in 1845 (62 yr, 10 mo, 27 da) + his first wife Mary (Craig) Perkins died February 25, 1820 (26 yr) + his second wife Hannah (Burnham) Perkins died June 24, 1842 (60 yr, 3 mo) Charlotte E. (Powers) Perkins (the first wife of Johnson Perkins) died on April 29, 1851 (26 yr, 5 mo), she is buried with their infant daughter George Perkins is my ggggrandfather, and he and Caroline were married on January 29, 1822 in Richford Vermont. Does anyone have any further info on these two individuals? DOes anyone have any connection with the Nathaniel Perkins, Samuel Perkins, or James Perkins that are also buried in this cemetery. I have not been able to make any connection between them and my ggggrandfather George, nor connect them with any of the Perkins lines in the US from which they no doubt are related. Any help would be greatly appreciated. There is also another line of Perkins descended from Robert Perkins and his wife Lucinda Rogers, both of whom are buried in the Farnam's Corner Cemetery, about one half mile from the Harvey Cemetery. I believe that all these individuals must be related back one or two generations in the US, I just haven't made the connection yet. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Bob Perkins Chemistry Instructor and VP Grievances for the Kwantlen College Faculty Association (KCFA) Local 05 of CIEA Mailing Address Kwantlen University College 12666 72nd Avenue Surrey B.C. Canada V3W 2M8 phone: 604-599-2660 voice mail 9562 (Teaching Office) 604-599-2149 voice mail 2149 (KCFA Office) fax: 604-599-0797 (KCFA Office) "Make It So" to "Live Long and Prosper"

Several branches of my families went to Essex County in the 1830's -- SALLS, PATTERSON, YOUNG, TRYON and TALLMAN. I also know that some KEETS moved there, too. They were not my direct lines, but these branches settled in the area of Westport, Willsboro, Jay, Au sable and Elizabethtown. Pam in Orlando >Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 10:35:26 -0800 (PST) >From: kensav@webtv.net (Ken Woodall) >To: QC-ETANGLO-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <13990-38D3CC6E-1569@storefull-112.iap.bryant.webtv.net> >Subject: [QC-ETANGLO] essex county ny > >anyone with migrations fro eastern townships to essex co ny to 1830's? ************************************************** Pam Wood Waugh moodies@magicnet.net 730 Dunhill Dr or waughp@ocps.k12.fl.us Orlando, FL 32825 Quebec GenWeb Eastern Townships Research site: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3500/et.html Family Lines: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3500 Listowner for COVEY-L, SALLS-L, TRYON-L, WAUGH-L and QC-ETANGLO-L

I have a portion of ship's list for the SS St. Andrew, left Glasgow, 19 June, 1867 for a 32 day voyage to Quebec and Montreal. assengers David KERR and Catherine DUNCAN are probably my grgrandparents. I give names and ages of other passengers as best as I can determine from the writing in hopes that someone will recognize an ancestor. I have found that ages particularly do not match birthdates we have for our KERRs, which I understand is not uncommon. These are my interpretations from a photocopy acquired from National Archives, Canada. Mrs.(?) McGeachy - Mother Margaret McGeachy age 10 (son) McGeachy age 8 (dau) McGeachy age 5 (son) McGeachy age 3 Isabella Douglas age 18, servant Isabella Gilson age 12/22, servant Martha Jeffrey age 16, spinster ? McTaggart age 22, farmer Janet McTaggart age 26, sister Christina McTaggart age 24, sister (female) Grieve age 30, house servant Mary Grieve age 22, house servant Alex Skene(?) age 30, farmer Alex B. Barr age 48, farmer Charles Barr age 6, child Hector Stewart age 24, labourer James Campbell age 22, labourer George Middleton age 44, labourer (male) Thomson age 30, ? (male) Drummond age 31, servant(?) Janet Drummond age 23, wife William Jamieson age 29, labourer Robert Jamieson age 27, labourer William Johnstone age 37, farmer David KERR age 40, labourer Catherine KERR age 36, wife David KERR age 13, child Margaret KERR age 9, child James (John) KERR age 5, child Mary KERR age 2, child Duncan (David?) KERR age 1 Robert Stirling age 36, farmer Agnes Stirling age 36, wife John Stirling age 11, child William Stewart age 22, farmer I hope this information will help someone and possibly lead to the discovery of descendants of my KERRs. Regards Roberta Kerr Turner Valley, Alberta, Canada

Greetings Listers! I hope somebody can help me. I am searching for a person named James Court BLACKWOOD, the document sent to me says: "disappeared in the NSA about 1880" Can somebody please tell me what this means?? What was going on in the Eastern Townships in the 1880's?? Kathleen BROCK Edmonton, AB

I am looking for the McINTYRE family that settled in Inverness, PQ circa 1847. Please see chart below for the names of those that settled in Inverness. I am trying to establish where in Ireland they came from. If you don't see a connection BUT have Irish descendants that settled in Inverness, Quebec, I would like to hear from you. Thanks in advance. Jon DESCENDANCY CHART ============================================================ 1-- James MCINTYRE-673 b. Ireland sp-Jane KILPATRICK-674 b. Ireland 2-- James MCINTYRE-410 (1829-1894) b. Ireland sp-Jane CALLUM-409 (1836-1910) b. Ireland 3-- Patrick Joseph MC INTYRE-408 (1852-1937) b. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- Margaret MCINTYRE-654 (1854) b. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- Mary J. MCINTYRE-655 (1855) b. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- John Henry MCINTYRE SR.-221 (1857-1928) sp-Mary M. SULLIVAN-222 (1861-1922) 3-- James MC INTYRE-407 (1859) b. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec sp-Jane ?-571 3-- Dennis MC INTYRE-628 (1863) b. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- Francis MC INTYRE-629 (1865) b. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- Peter MC INTYRE-630 (1867) b. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 2-- Matthew MCINTYRE-676 b. Ireland sp-Margaret CALLUM-677 sp-Sarah KEENAN-679 2-- Francis McINTYRE b. Ireland sp Bridget Campbell 3-- Partick b. 1846 in Ireland {Came to Canada some time between 1861 & 1871, did NOT come with the family in 1847} 3--Mary Jane b. . Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- John b. . Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- Ann b.. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- Elizabeth b. . Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec 3-- Francis b.. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec Bridget b.. Inverness, Megantic Co., Quebec ============================================================ Jon Aspinwall e-mail address: Jon-370@worldnet.att.net ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* Researching: In England -- Aspinwall - Aspinall In Ireland -- Donnelly - McIntyre - Callum - McCallum - Curran - Kilpatrick -Sullivan in Co. Kerry, Parish of Prior In Scotland - Gibson In New England USA - Donnelly - Gibson In Quebec --McIntyre -- Callum -McCallum ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*

I am looking for descendants of Matthew COX born in Ireland about 1825. His children were: John, born 1854 in PQ Canada Matthew, born 1856 in PQ Canada Terrence, born 1858 in PQ Canada Rosie, born 1861 in PQ Canada James, born 1863 in PQ Canada Ann Marie, born 1865 in PQ Canada Philip Henry, born 1874 in PQ Canada This family is listed in the 1881 Canada census as being Catholic.

Hello, Yes, my ancestors Stanton & Sarah (Bell) Fordice left West Shefford (now called Bromont), Quebec for Port Henry, NY in the 1830s. They later moved to West Rosendale, Wisconsin. Brian