I have found the surname of Gardner that I am researching on the 1850 census of Vermont. It says that he was born in Canada East. Is Canada East the same as Eastern Townships, or is it located elsewhere in Canada??? Sincerely, Toni Feeney Saco, Maine Homepage: http://members.xoom.com/tfeeney Free downloads page: http://members.xoom.com/tfeeney/downloads.html Books on cd and downloads store page: http://members.xoom.com/tfeeney/store.html

Hi Listers Although I am aware that one can order films through inter library loan, are the parish registers for Montreal also available through this service. I would like to copy my ggrandfather, Gordon Stanley Martin's birth record in Sherbrooke, my ggrandmother, Levina Martel birth in Stanstead. and their marriage and I have no date. If so, can anyone tell me the film nos. My LDS centre is closing until September and will not order any films right now, but my library here does have a reader. Any help or suggestions is welcom and appreciated. Thanks, Karen

The Quebec National Archives in Sherbrroke (ANQ) have transferred their microfilm resources to La société de généalogie des cantons de l'Est (SGCE) about 4-5 years ago. The Quebec archives are depository of original documents ie notary papers not on microfilm. All microfilm church records (before 1900) or notary microfilms are at the SGCE. The SGCE is at the following web http://www.genealogie.org/club/sgce/sgce.htm The regional ANQ for any area in Quebec can be reached through this web http://www.anq.gouv.qc.ca/ Marcel Benoit bunker.books@videotron.ca http://www.abebooks.com/home/BENOITBOOKS/ ---------- > From: dean warmerdam <damfam@uniserve.com> > To: QC-ETANGLO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [QC-ETANGLO] Sherbrooke Archives > Date: August 6, 2000 1:42 PM > > Hi All > > Can anyone help me with either a website for the Archives of Sherbrooke or an e-mail address. > The e-mail I have keeps coming back undeliverable. > > Thank you. > Karen > B.C. >

Hi All Can anyone help me with either a website for the Archives of Sherbrooke or an e-mail address. The e-mail I have keeps coming back undeliverable. Thank you. Karen B.C.

For Eric Pickle. Hi Eric, While at the Library of Congress yesterday, researching my wife's forebears (BERRY, CHURCH, et. al.) in Shefford County, Quebec, I ran across a few references to PICKLE. At the risk of duplicating what you already have, here they are: 1. Contributions to the History of the Eastern Townships (early settlements of): St. Armand, Dunham, Sutton, Brome, Potton, and Bolton, by Cyrus Thomas, 1866. Page 160. History of Dunham, Subsection of Sweetsburg, "Peter PICKLE, from Caldwell's Manor, settled in Dunham in 1804, near the site of Sweetsburg, on the land now owned by J.H. Cotton, He subsequently resided on different lots in the vicinity of this village, and finally settled on one now owned by his son, Abram PICKLE. He had ten children. Two of his sons and one daughter settled in Sweetsburg. Abram PICKLE is proprietor of the several stage routes leading from this village to the surrounding townships." 2. Of the CHURCH marriages you sent us, I found the following in Protestant Marriages in the District of Bedford, Quebec, 1804-1879, compiled by R. Neil Broadhurst. These might have some additional information to what you sent. Sally CHURCH, resident of S. Dunham, m. Joseph SHUFELT 21 Apr 1816 in Dunham. Elvira L. CHURCH, resident of Twp of Brome, m. Henry Newton PICKEL 15 Apr 1868 in Dunham. In addition, there was the following PICKLE marriage you didn't send: Henry CHURCH, Jr., resident of Dunham, m. Lany PICKLE 9 Jan 1809, in Dunham. Regards, Ken Shute, in Maryland (kwsroots@aol.com).

Pam & Alex I will file those names away for now because unfortunately, that is as far back as I have gotten. I have never known or met my grandfather, Leslie Cecil Martin and did not know the names of his parents until recently. Because dates and things have not been old enough I have had a very difficult time with searching and I have been persistent. My grandfather may have worked for Northern Electric around 1938 and who knows could have until his retirement. However, I am going to be searching the birth records for Gordon Stanley Martin and Levina Florence Martel to see who the parents were. I have very small children and I live in a little village where there are not alot of babysitters, so I take the opportunity as it arises. I will let you know if I find any of these names correspond and thank you for your assistance. It is appreciated very much. Karen B.C. Chetwynd is in B.C. I am 1 hr from Vancouver

I'm looking for a Sigfried Francis Lucien MILETTE b. in 1890/1900, New Bedford, Mass. He moved to Quebec and married Bernadette DANIEL b. 1900 in Quebec, Canada. Their 3 sons were, 1) Joseph Roger Valerien MILETTE, b. 8 Aug 1920 in Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada and died d. 23 Dec 1968, Reseda, Ca. 2) Daniel MILETTE b. Canada [probably Sherbrooke] and Jaques (Jake) MILETTE b. 1928 Joseph married [30 Jan 1945, London, Ontario, Canada] Dorothy Helena WHITE b. 9 Oct 1924, London, Ontario, Canada, d. 7 Oct 1968, Reseda, Ca. Their children were Camille MILETTE and Ann Louise MILETTE, b. 26 Jun 1947, London, Ontario, Canada who m. Roger Dale BAKER, b. 13 May 1943, Hamilton, Ohio. Roger's son William is my new son-in-law. I cannot get the records since I do not know the churches that were involved. I would gladly pay a researcher to help me. Of course any information on their ancestors will also be welcome. John Minch San Juan Capistrano, CA jminch@home.com

Karen How did you manage to find the parish record for your grandparents marriage? Beth dean warmerdam wrote: > Julia > > You mentioned that I should get baptism records or birth certificates for my ggrandparents as it would show their parents names. I do not know the date of their marriage as of yet so I can not get a marriage record. > > I know that it is different in Quebec compared to here, so excuse my ignorance, but the record of my grandparents marriage I have is the actual parish record. Now, would it be best for a certificate from the etat civil, or a parish record of the birth, if I can get it. Which is the better one to have? If the certificate is good, long form showing parents or actual act. I dont know if you can order birth registrations there. Ggrandparents are buried at Hawthorn-Dale cemetery and their son (my grandfather) was married in First Presbyterian Church in Montreal, so I gather they were this. > I am going to check a marriage index to see if I can find their marriage, maybe even the parish of my grandparents would be the same as my ggrandparents!!! The location of the marriage though would kind of tell me where possibly Leslie Cecil martin, my granfather was born. > A census, I have to know what township. My closest library to me that has all that is 45 minutes away and I have two little ones, but if I know the film no, my library here has a reader so that would be alot closer. > Anyhow, I just wondered what was the best route to go for the info. I also wondered what other cemeteries there might be that if my grandfather is not alive, I might find him at one of those as he is not a Mount Royal or Hawthorne-Dale. > Thanks, > Karen

Julia Yes, Im sure any record is good to have, I just wasn't too sure. Here we usually want birth registrations, marriage registrations because it shows all the info when applying as well. I do not know when my ancestors came to canada and where from as of yet. I am ever so slowly moving back that way. My father did not know his father, and he never knew the names of any of his grandparents, so its made it a bit more difficult, not to mention that he was in an orphanage in Montreal when he was a small boy for a little while. I have no idea which one and am trying to work on that. Thanks for the help and suggestions. I e-mailed Myriam already and she is the one who gave me dates and confirmed they were there. She could not find my grandfather. So, of course, I'll keep plugging away at it. Thanks, Karen

Bill and Eleanor Thank you for that help with mapquest, yes I did get it this time and printed the map. I noticed you were from Ottawa as that is my other area of interest. Is there a mailing list for that area? Thank you Karen B.C.

At 12:35 PM 8/5/00 -0700, you wrote: > Gordon died at the Military hospital and so I know he served in WW1 and have written for his records. Lavina died in Aug 20, 1962, the year I was born in Montreal on Bayle Street, but that could be Bayley street too as I could not find it on www.mapquest.com Karen, Your Ste Anne de Bellevue connection would likely be because that is where the Veteran's Hospital is. Try mapquest again for Baile Street. It is still there running from St Matthew St (Rue St Mathieu) west two blocks to Fort St (Rue du Fort). It runs parallel to Tupper St to the north and Blvd Rene Levesque (formerly Dorchester) to the south. Mapquest gives you 2 choices. Municipal numbers 1812 - 1860 for the block from St Matthew to St. Mark (St Marc), and numbers 1920 - 1928 from St Mark to Fort. Bill Brady, Ottawa, ON

Julia You mentioned that I should get baptism records or birth certificates for my ggrandparents as it would show their parents names. I do not know the date of their marriage as of yet so I can not get a marriage record. I know that it is different in Quebec compared to here, so excuse my ignorance, but the record of my grandparents marriage I have is the actual parish record. Now, would it be best for a certificate from the etat civil, or a parish record of the birth, if I can get it. Which is the better one to have? If the certificate is good, long form showing parents or actual act. I dont know if you can order birth registrations there. Ggrandparents are buried at Hawthorn-Dale cemetery and their son (my grandfather) was married in First Presbyterian Church in Montreal, so I gather they were this. I am going to check a marriage index to see if I can find their marriage, maybe even the parish of my grandparents would be the same as my ggrandparents!!! The location of the marriage though would kind of tell me where possibly Leslie Cecil martin, my granfather was born. A census, I have to know what township. My closest library to me that has all that is 45 minutes away and I have two little ones, but if I know the film no, my library here has a reader so that would be alot closer. Anyhow, I just wondered what was the best route to go for the info. I also wondered what other cemeteries there might be that if my grandfather is not alive, I might find him at one of those as he is not a Mount Royal or Hawthorne-Dale. Thanks, Karen

1. Adam DALGLEISH. Born in 1804 in Scotland. Came to Megantic county abt 1830-32. Adam died in Seigniory of St Croix, Quebec on 5 Dec 1874, Buried on 7 Dec 1874 in Inverness Township, Megantic COuntry, Quebec. Occupation: Farmer. Religion: Presbyterian. On 2 Apr 1839 when Adam was 35, he married Isabella JOHNSTON, in Leeds, Church of England, Megantic County, Quebec. Born in Inverness Township, Megantic COuntry, Quebec. Isabella died in before census in 1861 in Halifax North. They had the following children: i. Ellen. Born on 28 Jan 1840 in Ireland, Megantic Country, Quebec. ii. Isabella. Born on 31 Dec 1843 in Ireland, Megantic Country, Quebec. iii. Robert James. Born on 25 Nov 1845 in Ireland, Megantic Country, Quebec. Occupation: farmer at Halifax. Religion: Church of England. Robert James married ??????. iv. Marion. Born on 25 Nov 1847. -- Julia Dalgleish Sauter, Saskatoon, Canada Searching Dalgleish, Rutherford & Heriot in Scotland Searching Thackeray & McQuarrie & Kearney in Ontario........... To some it's just a hobby, to Me it's much more, I learn the joys and heartaches of those that went before. They loved, they lost, they laughed, they wept - and now, for me, They live again in spirit, around the FAMILY TREE.

Seeking connections on................. DALGLEISH. James ---------. Born in 1803 in Scotland. Came to Canada abt 1830-32 James died in Tenth Range of Halifax, North Township, Megantic County, Quebec. Buried in Inverness, Quebec, Canada. Occupation: farmer. Religion: Presbyterian. James married Christiana BELL, daughter of Angus BELL & . Born in 1817 in Scotland. They had the following children: 1. Robert (1840-) On 25 Jan 1870 when Robert was 30, he married Charlotte Ann (christine) WISEMAN, daughter of Humble WISEMAN & Ruth WATSON, in Ireland Township, Megantic Country, Quebec, Canada. Born in 1848. One child known Christine b. 1871 2. Mary (1843-) Born on 1 May 1843 in Leeds, Megantic County, Quebec. Mary died in before 1873. Buried in probably Chippewa Falls, CHippewa, Wisconsin. On 12 Jun 1862 when Mary was 19, she married Joseph Heath COBBAN, son of Robert COBBAN & Mary ANDERSON, in Inverness, Megantic, Quebec. Born on 30 May 1838 in Inverness, Megantic, Quebec. Joseph Heath died in Groveland, MA USA on 25 Sep 1899, he was 61. They had the following children: i. Mary Ellen Louise (maybe Helen Louisa?) (1864-) in Inverness ii. Robert James Joseph (1866-1887) In Inverness iii. Angelina (1868-) In Chippewa Falls, WI 3. Christina. Born in 1845 in Megantic County, Quebec. 4. George. Born on 25 Dec 1848 in Halifax, Megantic county, Quebec. 5. Ronald. Born on 27 Oct 1852 in Halifax,Megantic County, Quebec. 6. Marion. Born on 22 Jan 1857 in Tenth range of Halifax, Megantic County, Quebec. Religion: Church of England Presbyterian on Census 1861 North Halifax age 15. -- Julia Dalgleish Sauter, Saskatoon, Canada Searching Dalgleish, Rutherford & Heriot in Scotland Searching Thackeray & McQuarrie & Kearney in Ontario........... To some it's just a hobby, to Me it's much more, I learn the joys and heartaches of those that went before. They loved, they lost, they laughed, they wept - and now, for me, They live again in spirit, around the FAMILY TREE.

Julia Thank you as it does help me know how close or far some of these townships are in order to find not only the acestors when I get their names as well, but the closer family members I am also looking for. I did not have my ggrandparents names until recently from the Mount Royal Cemetery although they were buried in Hawthorn-Dale cemetery. Gordon Stanley Martin, born Sherbrooke Jan 14, 1896 and Lavina Florence Martel, born 1899 in Stanstead, however, my granfather, Leslie Cecil Martin I do not have a birth for yet and he Im sure most likely remarried and had another family. Gordon died at the Military hospital and so I know he served in WW1 and have written for his records. Lavina died in Aug 20, 1962, the year I was born in Montreal on Bayle Street, but that could be Bayley street too as I could not find it on www.mapquest.com Thank you for your info. I might try searching for those surnames in the Montreal area as well. I tried those names in the mormon webpage, but n! othing came up but will keep trying it. Karen B.C.

Hello Listers; I might have asked this before, but seem to be losing the memory a tad lateley, but I am wondering if any one is searching the surnames MARTIN or MARTEL from the Sherbrooke, Montreal, Stanstead, even Ste.-Anne de Belluvue area. My family members may even be in other areas, but these are all I have at the moment. Could anyone tell me please, how far Ste-Anne de Belluvue is from Sherbrooke? Thank you for any help. Karen B.C.

Obituary in Saskatoon Star Phoenix Corscadden: The death of Winnifred Pearl Corscadden age 95 years occured on Monday July 31, 2000. She is survived by her two daughters, etc. I have the whole thing for Steph.............Please resond -- Julia Dalgleish Sauter, Saskatoon, Canada Searching Dalgleish, Rutherford & Heriot in Scotland Searching Thackeray & McQuarrie & Kearney in Ontario........... To some it's just a hobby, to Me it's much more, I learn the joys and heartaches of those that went before. They loved, they lost, they laughed, they wept - and now, for me, They live again in spirit, around the FAMILY TREE.

Hello Listers; I am new to the list and apologize I do not speak French. My name is Karen and I am from Abbotsford, B.C. I am trying to trace my father's lineage and find my grandfather, Leslie Cecil Martin. I just found my ggrandparents are buried at Hawthorn-Dale cemetery and they are: GEORGE STANLEY MARTIN, Born Sherbrook, on Jan 14, 1896 and died on Dec 18, 1966 at Ste.-Anne's Military Hospital and LAVINA FLORENCE MARTIN, nee: MARTEL, born in Stanstead on Aug 14, 1899 and died Aug 20, 1962 in Montreal. Their son is Leslie Cecil Martin and he married my grandmother, Dora Emily Thomas aka Dorothy on Nov 27, 1937. My father was born June 9, 1938 in Montreal and his name is Robert Gordon MARTIN. If anyone is searching these roots or has any advice they can give me, it would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Karen B.C.

The Brady's were kind enough to post that information to me this past year and I am sending it on to the list. Michelle -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [QC-ETANGLO] Fw: Dates At 06:02 PM 2000-04-06 -0700, you wrote: >Pre 1774 Quebec Colony >1774 - 1837 Upper and Lower Canada >1838 - 1867 Canada East (CE) >1868 - Province of Quebec, Dominion of Canada Hi Michelle, For consistency you would have to leave Upper Canada out of the second item. It became Canada West, and then Ontario. The change from Canada East to Quebec Province was on July 1, 1867. Bill Brady, Ottawa, ON

Hello list, Could someone please explain the exact location for Canada E (East?) around the 1800-1850 time frame. It was listed as a place of birth on a Vermont census. Thank you! Linda