You know I don't think the Zachariah Piles in Monongalia County is the same as the one in Hampshire County. I think they were related. Also, we had a Francis Piles in Hampshire Co that I will provide some info: At age 68, in the 1850 census, Francis lived near Kirby, Hampshire County, VA, now West Virginia, with Samuel Ruckman. Samuel was probably his son-in-law. Census said he was a laborer. Ref: 1850VA-Hamp Co., Dist 24, #19-19. John Piles married Elizabeth Ruckman, March 13, 1824. Elizabeth's parents were Samuel and Susannah Ruckman. (Deed Bk 29/333-40 Hamp. Co.) shows a deed dated 22 Feb 1834...between John H Piles and Elizabeth, his wife, Solomon Tharp and Hannah, his wife and Gibson Ruckman and Mary, his wife. The said Elizabeth, Hannah and Gibson being children of heirs and legal representatives of Samuel Ruckman, deceased of one part and Thomas Ruckman of the other part. Francis Pyles, who was born in Maryland in November, 1782, is probably related to the Francis Piles, born in 1635, who came to America and settled first in Chester Co, PA, and later worked their way south on the Great Wagon Trail to, first, Maryland, and second, Virginia, now West Virginia. From Historical Records of Old Frederick County... by Dr. Wilmer Kerns, Francis Piles died on March 16, 1872 in the Hampshire Co. Poor House, aged 89 years, 4 months. He was born in Nov 1782. Source: The South Branch Intelligencer. Jul 15, 1758 Zachariah Piles born in Frederick Co., MD 1776 Zachariah enlisted in army/marched in South Branch Valley Nov 1782 Francis Piles born in Maryland 1782 William Piles on Hampshire Co Tax List June 1810 No Piles in Hamp Co Census June 1820 Zachariah Piles listed in census in Hampshire Co. Mar 13, 1824 John Piles married Elizabeth Ruckman June 1830 John H. Piles (b1790-1800) and Zachariah(b 1770-1780)in census Feb 22, 1834, Deed between John H & Elizabeth, Tharp's and Gibson Ruckman, ch of Samuel and Sussaanah Ruckman. Aug 26, 1837 John W. Piles born in Hamp. Co June 1840 Zachariah Piles, b 1780, in census of Hamp. co. June 1850 census: Benjamin, b. 1817, Thomas b 1825; Zachariah b 1822; John b 1833; Rector b 1833; John b 1837; Hannah b MD 1786; Joseph b 1835. June 1850 Francis Piles, 68 living with Samuel Ruckman Jan 17, 1856, Capt. John H. Piles, CSA, married Jane Roberson June 1860 census Hamp. Co., Hannah; Frank b MD 1787; Rector b 1832; Benjamin b 1818, John H. Jr. b 1837, Capt John H b 1832. Sep 1870, Capt John H and Jane moved to MO. March 16, 1872, Francis Died in Hamp. Co. Poor House According to 1850 census of Hamp. Co., Dist 24, Dwelling 10, Hannah Piles, age 64, lived with Comfort Poling, a female, age 74. As noted by census she could not read or write. Was she the widow of ...? Also in the household was Sarah Piles, age 43 and Malinda, age 13. This apprears to be a widow, daughter in law and granddaughter. This Zachariah Piles seems to have spent much time in Hampshire Co. The other Zachariah was in Mongaglia Co from age 11. He seems to have stayed there. This will give all those interested in this line something to think about over the Labor Day holiday. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Pyle [SMTP:piguy@goldrush.com] Sent: Monday, September 01, 1997 9:21 AM To: Ron Pyle; Peggy Pyle Cc: PYLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Pyle-Pile Book In the Pyle/Pile book on page 212 we find Zachariah Piles. My esp tells me that the Frances Piles line is the line that I should be chasing more than any other line. Rachel and I have gone through this before, but at the bottom of the page we find Zachariah Jr. Now I want you to turn to page 488 of the Pyle/Pile book and let me know if you see what I see. Coincidence, maybe. On page 487 we find that William Pyle's wife was Mary Jones and on page 194 of the Pyle/Pile book, we find who? another coincidence, Maybe? So everytime I hear a peep about Zac from VA. I get this twitch in my left eye, Give me some ideas please! Ron, from the Home of the Jumping Frog. ---------- | From: Ron Pyle <piguy@goldrush.com> | To: Peggy Pyle <peggy@getonthe.net> | Cc: PYLE-L@rootsweb.com | Subject: Re: Pyle-Pile Book | Date: Saturday, August 30, 1997 8:05 PM | | Peggy; | That's the same way we feel about our William. I think that there's a | Zachariah in the wood shed. | | Ron Pyle | | ---------- | | From: Peggy Pyle <peggy@getonthe.net> | | To: PYLE-L@rootsweb.com | | Subject: Re: Pyle-Pile Book | | Date: Saturday, August 30, 1997 7:27 PM | | | | I was at Mid Continent Library in Independence MO this weekend and they | had | | this book in their collection. | | | | After looking through this book, and most of the other stuff available at | | this library, very thoroughly on Friday & Saturday(today), I have decided | | that Benjamin Pyle was an immaculate conception or was spontaneously | | concepted or hatched or whatever you want to call it, but the man does | NOT | | have a father. | | | | I give up. Anyone have any ideas? I am open to any suggestions. | | Peg | | |