Dear Sandi and one other who inquired about the Lawrence/Beaver CO Pyles: I don't know how much I can help as I don't have a clear picture myself of the families there but my John B. Pyle was born 11 Jan 1797 in Washington CO PA and married in Beaver CO PA ca 1817 to Elizabeth Thompson. They moved to Butler CO PA later and were there in Butler in 1840 and 1850 census, moving in 1853 to Koscuisko CO IN, where John died in Sep 1978. What I have about the family has been given to me by others and I have not proved the information in any way. 1. William Pyle b 26 Nov 1865 d. 1734 m. 1707 to Olive Bennett. Ch: a. Mary b. Olive c. William d. Isaac e. Job* f. John g. Ann h. Phebe 1-e Job Pyle* d. July 1751 Chester CO W. Marlborough Twp ; m. Elizabeth Bennett Ch: I. Amos II. Caleb* III. Anne [could be others] 1-e-II Caleb Pyle* m. Sophia House in 1769 Ch: a1. Amos* (Believe him to be the line who came to Camp Run Pa with brother Caleb a2. Caleb [d.y.?] a3. Bennett a4. Elizabeth a5. Esther a6. Mary a7. Sarah a8. Hanna a9. Caleb(Believe him to come to Camp Run PA with bro Amos) 1-e-II-a1 Amos Pyle* m. Rachel Wright also of Washington CO PA He lived in Allegheny CO and had a saw mill on Peters Creek before coming to Camp Run Lawrence CO PA. Ch: i. Sophia b. 8-12-1792 ii. William b. 9-4-1794 iii John B. b. 1-11-1797* iv. Mary b. 3-19-1799 v. Caleb b. 1-21-1801 vi. Alice b. 6-22-1804, d. 9-26-1830 vii. Amos b. 5-4-1807 d. 11-6-1815 viii. Sara b. 5-4-1807 d. 11-6-1815 twins ix. Joseph B. b. 4-12-18112, d. 8-2-1899 x. Rachel b. 2-24-1815 d. 2-21-1823 xi. Clorinda b. 12-14-1819 a9. Caleb Pyle is believed to have come to Camp Run, Lawrence CO [Beaver] with his brother Amos. It is thought that Caleb had two daughters and two sons. Caleb had a store in Beaver CO, an import business. There was a Sarah Pyle who married a Harvey Holliday, brother to the Rebecca Holliday who married Joseph Pyle [b. to my John B.] and Joanna Holliday who married Caleb who was a brother to my John B. Pyle also. Perhaps Sarah would be a sister to your James and Martin. Let me know if you find anything further from these names. I haven't been in touch with my source for several years, so perhaps she has somethiiing more. Sincerely Marjory

Last year while I was communicating with anyone who I thoughht I could receive information from, I ran across this blood cousin. Richard, His father Robert Pyle and mother Lelani all teach at the University of Hawaii. Robert is a professor of zoology. I communicated with both Richard and his mother and she claims relationship with Ernie Pyle, but also from thr Robert Pyle Line. This is Richard Pyle's web page url <www.bishop.hawaii.org/bishop/HBS/pylerichard.html> and certainly worth looking at. Especially the Bishop Museum! Ron Pyle

We want to welcome Joe Pyle to the PYLE list! Joe is another "cousin" that Doris has brought to us. Joe, we are so glad to have you join us! When you have time, please tell us a little about yourself and what branch of the PYLE family you are researching. All postings should be addressed to PYLE-L@rootsweb.com If you are responding to a query, please click on "reply to all" so that the response goes to the list as well as the person making the query. The reason for this request is that someone else may have information to share or be able to get a clue on their research, by reading the exchange of e-mails. Please utilize the subject line by putting a name and location, if possible. Or perhaps, you have some information to share on another topic, for instance, migration patterns. If you are posting a very long document or gedcom, then it should be done in 2 or 3 postings rather than the whole thing at once. For instance, you might be sending xxx pt. 1, xxx pt. 2, xxx pt 3, etc. The reason for this is very simply that some providers cannot handle large pieces of mail at one time. I know that AOL has been having some problems with this. Please DO NOT send attachments to the list because there has been a problem with that on some servers. If you have a document that is too large to do a cut and paste, then post a description of it to the list to see who might want it sent directly. If you have any questions about the list or you are not sure of what to do, please e-mail me at pyle@airmail.net Sara pyle@airmail.net

I am seeking information on the birth and ancestry of Mary (MATTHEWSON) PYLE who married Caleb Pyle in April 6, 1767 in Old Swedes Church, Wilmington, DE and died in Delaware Co., PA in 1829. Mary is my fourth great-grandmother. Dave in Morro Bay, CA

My name is Sandi Pyle Ford. I am trying to find information on my ggrandfather James Pyle born in Lawrence Co, PA in 1839. At the time of his death in 1915, he had a brother Martin living in New Castle, PA and a sister Kate Victory or Victor living in Indianapolis. I am looking for his parents and any other siblings he may have had. He married Elizabeth Miller, 1860 in Fortville, Indiana and moved to Coles Co., Mattoon, Illinois around 1880. His civil war records say he was born in Lawrence Co., PA but it would have had to be Beaver or somewhere around that area at that time. A Caleb and Amos Pyle lived in that area and may be some connection. The 1850 PA cenus shows a James Pyle living with a Mathis and Mary Shafer. This may have been him. Any help would be appreciated.

Doni, Benjamin was born in KY in 1815. Your mail is bouncing. Please check your address. Peg

I'm sure I posted this at the same time. anyway, here it is again! Doris

From Howard & Jane PYLE's book, PYLE-PILE Family in America: Robert PYLE was bapt. 29 Dec. 1660, Horton, Parish of Bishops Cannings, Wiltshire, England. Died: 17 January 1730, Bethel Twp.Chester Co.,PA. Will dated 2 Jan. 1730, proved 29 Aug. 1730 Chester Co.,PA. Robert married 16 Nov. 1681 in England to Ann STOVEY, dau. of William STOVEY, who was a Friend (Quaker) and suffered much persecution by imprisonment and loss of his goods for consciences sake. Ann was born 1665 and died 1705. Robert married secondly to Susan TURNER on 30 Jan. 1725, in Providence, Chester Co.,PA. Widow with children: George, James and Dorothy. Robert's children: Sarah, b. 27 Nov. 1682, England, d. 16 Dec. 1706. marr. 1702 to John VERNON, son of Robert & Elinor MINSHALL. Children:Rachel and Aaron. Robert, b. 17 July,1684, d. 1717. Marr. 1709 to Elizabeth SWAFFER, dau of James SWAFFER and Elizabeth HOULSTON, Colonial settlers in Upper Providence Twp. Delaware Co.,PA. William, b. 26 Nov. 1685,d. 1734. Marr. 1707 to Olive BENNETT, dau. of John BENNETT and Ann BRINTON. John, b. 8 June, 1687, d. 1752. Marr. 1710 to Lydia THOMAS, marr. 2nd on 20 July 1716, Susanna CHAMBERLIN. Mary, b. 13 Nov. 1688. Marr. 1713, Thomas MOORE. Jacob,b. 5 Jan. 1691,marr. 1713, Alice BOWATER. Joseph, b. 5 Nov. 1692, d. 1754. Marr. 16 April 1715, Sarah DICKS; marr. 2nd Sarah (PENNELL) GIBBONS. Daniel, b. 29 May 1694. Marr.1st in 1717 to Mary CHAMBERLIN, marr. 2nd. Mary PENNELL. These are the children listed in Robert's will as noted above. Sara PATRICK H MURRAY wrote: > > Sara, > Thanks. I see you have gotten the correction on the spelling of " > Cocke" in your Pyle/ Pile book. I wonder if Robert had a will that > named his children??. > Patrick Murray > pat.murray@juno.com

Hi all - many of you know me already, but to those who don't - I am Doni Wright of Stafford VA - and a Pyle cousin. I started researching the Quaker films for Chester/Delaware Ctys in the FHC back in 1986, and not only recorded my line, but wrote down many of their siblin lines as well. This is called "cluster" genealogy. Right now, I am attempting to place this information in a lineage format - you may access it from my home page (there are no 'bells &whistles' on this page, just pure genealogy). It will be an on-going event. <http://www.interserf.net/doniw> If you have a Pyle page, and would like me to reference it, please drop me a line. Also, the new 'Pyle Family Reunion page' may be accessed by clicking on the '1' next to the Pyle name under "OTHER Web pages". Please also let me know where I have made errors - provide your source - and any typos (I won't be offended) that may have occurred. I will carry the lineage to 1800. Thanks, and good luck with your research. Doni

Dave; Thanks for the response, I was rather confused, but it's nothing new for me! Ron ---------- | From: DRDowell@aol.com | To: PYLE-L@rootsweb.com | Subject: PYLE, Hannah Marie 1833-1904 | Date: Monday, September 01, 1997 9:58 PM | | In a message dated 97-09-01 11:21:46 EDT, you write: | | << Dave; | Did I miss your first mail or did you not include your Pyle connection to | Robert Pyle 1,. John 2, Jacob 3, Caleb 4 and John Pyle 5, | | John Pyle 5 and Ann Lodge, his second wife had John's 13th child | Hannah Maria Pyle, born 6-6-1833 and married at Mt. Carroll, IL to John D. | Hoar and they had ten children? | | Ron Pyle >> | | Ron, | | My data agrees with yours with the possible exception that John David and | Hannah Marie (PYLE) HOAR may have had 11 rather than 10 ten children. | | Dave |

Does anyone have information on the ancestry of the wives of John PYLE? I know nothing about the parentage of Elizabeth TAYLOR whom John married in 1806. I only know that Ann LODGE, whom he married in 1819, had parents named Robert and Hannah (WEBSTER) LODGE. Any additional information would be appreciated. Dave in Morro Bay, CA

In a message dated 97-09-01 11:21:46 EDT, you write: << Dave; Did I miss your first mail or did you not include your Pyle connection to Robert Pyle 1,. John 2, Jacob 3, Caleb 4 and John Pyle 5, John Pyle 5 and Ann Lodge, his second wife had John's 13th child Hannah Maria Pyle, born 6-6-1833 and married at Mt. Carroll, IL to John D. Hoar and they had ten children? Ron Pyle >> Ron, My data agrees with yours with the possible exception that John David and Hannah Marie (PYLE) HOAR may have had 11 rather than 10 ten children. Dave

Gen 2, cont: John Pyle and Elizabeth Jeems's children: 1) Martha Jane Pyle, ca 1860 - 1875 in Kaufman Co. TX. Marr: Robert Phillips 2) James Conner Pyle, ca 1862-1884 in Kaufman Co., TX. Marr: Mary Viola Starks 3) Priscilla Pyle, 1864-1905 in Kaufman Co., Tx. Marr: (1) John W. Phillips and (2) John T. Hayes. Generation 3 Jonathon Jackson Pyle, Sr. b. 1836 in Montgomery Co., TX,; d. 1920 in Kaufman Co., TX. Mar: (1) Amanda T. McLennon and (2) Amelia (Bracy) Foster. J.J and Amanda's children: 1)John Mc Clennon Pyle, 1858-1875 in Kaufman Co. Tx. Marr: Eliza Jane "Jenny" Pounds. 2) thru 4) died in infancy. 5) Elizabeth Annie Pyle, 1863-1904 in Kaufman Co. TX. Marr: H.D. Gore 6) William Jefferson Pyle, 1866-1901 in Kaufman Co., TX. Marr: Mary Jane Greathouse. 7) Wilson Pyle, 1868-1909 in Kaufman Co., Tx. Marr: Sally Phillip 8) died in infancy. *9) Benjamin Franklin Pyle, 1871-1936 in Kaufman Co., TX. 10) Amanda Pyle, 1874-1890 in Kaufman Co., TX. Marr: Jesse Phillips 11) Martin Pyle, 1876-? in Kaufman co., TX. Marr: Sarah Frances Peel. 12) Margaret Pyle, 1882-1965 in Kaufman Co., Tx. Marr: Albert Greathouse. J.J. and Amelia's children: 1) Alonzo Pyle, 1904-1952. Marr: Bonnie B. Copeland 2) Omelia Pyle, 1905-? Marr: Ethel Davis Generation 4 Benjamin Franklin Pyle, b. 1871 and d. 1936 in Kaufman Co. Tx. Marr: (1) Julia Ann Norris and (2) Sally (Phillips) Pyle Ben and Julia's children: 1) Nancy areen Pyle, 1892-1973. Marr: William Franklin Gore 2) Sarah Frances Pyle, 1893-1985. Marr: Claud Matthew Gothard 3) William Pyle, died young 4) Nellie Percy Pyle, 1897-1987. Marr: Wheeler Aday *5) Newt F. Pyle, 1899-1963. Marr: Mary Holley 6) Margaret Elizabeth Pyle, 1901-1965. Marr: Calvin "Cot" Williams 7) Edgar Pyle, 1904-1917 8) Pearl Mae Pyle, 1905-1952. Mrrr: Clyde Chandler Ben and Sally's children: 1) Vernon Aubrey Pyle, 1913-1975. Marr: (1) Doris Nell Prichett (2) Lucille ? Newt F. and Mary (Holley) Pyle were my parents.

Generation 1 Samuel Pyle, b. ca 1770-74 in S.C., d. 1830-32 in Henry Co. GA. Marr: Charity Eason ca 1792 (prob. in S.C.) She was b., 1772 ? d. aft 1850 in Stewart Co. GA. Their children: 1) Nicholas Pyle, b. 1793 in S.C.; d. 1867 in Kaufman Co., TX. Marr: (1) Mary Westbrook (2) Emmeline Tyson. 2) Abraham Pyle, b. ca 1795 in S.C.: d. aft 1860 in Stewart Co., GA. Marr: (1) Catherine (Sherman) Rhodes (2) Martha ? *3) John Pyle, b. 1796 in S.C.; d. 1869 in Kaufman Co., Tx. 4) Samuel E. Pyle, b. 1797 S.C. or GA; d. 1841 in Sumter Co., Al. Marr: Sarah ? 5) Thomas Pyle, b. ca 1800 in GA; d. before 1850 in Caddo Pr. La. Marr: Margaret Burns or Williams 6) Peter Pyle, b, ca 1803 in GA.: d. ? in DeSoto Pr. LA. Marr: (1) Mirah Davis (2) Melissa Bridges. 7) James B. Pyle, b. ca 1804 in GA; d. after 1866 in DeSoto Pr. La. Marr: Mary Betsill. 8) Sarah Ann Pyle, b. ca 1808 in GA; d. before 1850 in Floyd Co., GA. Marr: John Westbrook. Generation 2 John Pyle, b. 1796 in S.C.; d. 1869 in Kaufman Co., TX. Marr: (1)Thursa Kilgore and (2) Elizabeth Jeems or Weems John and Thursa's children: 1) Emmeline Pyle, b. 1817 in Miss.; d. 1878 in Kaufman Co. Tx. Marr (1) James P. McFarland (2) W.G. Stubbs 2) Joseph T. Pyle, b. 1819 in Miss.; d. before 1848 in Montgomery Co. TX. Marr: Margaret Baggett. 3) Samuel E. Pyle, b. 1822 in Miss; d. 1885 in Kaufman Co., TX. Marr: Theresa (Grant) Hurley. 4) Simeon E. or T. Pyle, b. 1824 in Miss.; d. before 1848 in Montgomery Co. TX. 5) Sarah Ann Pyle, b. 1827 in Miss; d. 1878 in Freestone Co., Tx. Marr: John D. McFarland. 6) Charity Ann Pyle, b. 1828 in Miss.; d. ? in Kaufman Co., Tx. Marr: James W. Smith 7) Thursa Pyle, b. 1829 in Miss.; d. ? in Kaufman Co. TX. 8) John Kilgore Pyle, b. 1834 in Sumter Co., Al.; d. ca 1905 in Kaufman Co., TX. Marr: Marriene Bowlden *9) Jonathon Jackson Pyle, Sr. b. 1836 in Montgomery Co., TX.; d. 1920 in Kaufman Co., TX. Marr (1) Amanda McLennon (2) Amelia (Bracy) Foster.

Patrick; I believe we communicated before and that you had been in contact with Bob McRae from Cochran, Ga. I don't have any information other than what we talked of before, but have arrived at an assumption that George Turner Pyle has to be a descendent of Susannah Turner Pyle. (My assumtions usually turn to fact, simply because I'm so dense, that by the time that something enters my mind it's old news.) The Pyle/Pile book has this family married to Elizabeth Cooke. Bob McRae and I had many discussions regarding this fact via the U.S. Postal Service (snail mail is becoming trite, so I'm reverting to the above. I like to be original at times.) Bob sent me many copies of the Pile/Pyle records from the LDS Family History Center trying to help me find my gggg-grandfather, but to no avail. I sent him a donation for helping me and never heard from him again. I hope that he didn't feel insulted, but the paper he sent me was worth what I gave . Keep in touch. By the way are you from Washington State? Ron, from the "Home of The Jumping Frog" ---------- | From: PATRICK H MURRAY <pat.murray@juno.com> | To: piguy@goldrush.com | Subject: Re: Geo.TURNER PYLE | Date: Monday, September 01, 1997 10:34 AM | | Ron, | I do have volume two of "Cockes and Cousins ", I did submit the Pyle | data for the book back in 1974. Still have not found the parents of | George Pyle who married Elizabeth Cocke. He first appears in Henrico Co. | on the tax list of 1787. He appears in the 1880 census of Warren Co. IA, | but where his parents were born is blank. He may of not known, or the | census taker did not put it down, or it faded from the record. | | | Patrick Murray | pat.murray@juno.com

You know I don't think the Zachariah Piles in Monongalia County is the same as the one in Hampshire County. I think they were related. Also, we had a Francis Piles in Hampshire Co that I will provide some info: At age 68, in the 1850 census, Francis lived near Kirby, Hampshire County, VA, now West Virginia, with Samuel Ruckman. Samuel was probably his son-in-law. Census said he was a laborer. Ref: 1850VA-Hamp Co., Dist 24, #19-19. John Piles married Elizabeth Ruckman, March 13, 1824. Elizabeth's parents were Samuel and Susannah Ruckman. (Deed Bk 29/333-40 Hamp. Co.) shows a deed dated 22 Feb 1834...between John H Piles and Elizabeth, his wife, Solomon Tharp and Hannah, his wife and Gibson Ruckman and Mary, his wife. The said Elizabeth, Hannah and Gibson being children of heirs and legal representatives of Samuel Ruckman, deceased of one part and Thomas Ruckman of the other part. Francis Pyles, who was born in Maryland in November, 1782, is probably related to the Francis Piles, born in 1635, who came to America and settled first in Chester Co, PA, and later worked their way south on the Great Wagon Trail to, first, Maryland, and second, Virginia, now West Virginia. From Historical Records of Old Frederick County... by Dr. Wilmer Kerns, Francis Piles died on March 16, 1872 in the Hampshire Co. Poor House, aged 89 years, 4 months. He was born in Nov 1782. Source: The South Branch Intelligencer. Jul 15, 1758 Zachariah Piles born in Frederick Co., MD 1776 Zachariah enlisted in army/marched in South Branch Valley Nov 1782 Francis Piles born in Maryland 1782 William Piles on Hampshire Co Tax List June 1810 No Piles in Hamp Co Census June 1820 Zachariah Piles listed in census in Hampshire Co. Mar 13, 1824 John Piles married Elizabeth Ruckman June 1830 John H. Piles (b1790-1800) and Zachariah(b 1770-1780)in census Feb 22, 1834, Deed between John H & Elizabeth, Tharp's and Gibson Ruckman, ch of Samuel and Sussaanah Ruckman. Aug 26, 1837 John W. Piles born in Hamp. Co June 1840 Zachariah Piles, b 1780, in census of Hamp. co. June 1850 census: Benjamin, b. 1817, Thomas b 1825; Zachariah b 1822; John b 1833; Rector b 1833; John b 1837; Hannah b MD 1786; Joseph b 1835. June 1850 Francis Piles, 68 living with Samuel Ruckman Jan 17, 1856, Capt. John H. Piles, CSA, married Jane Roberson June 1860 census Hamp. Co., Hannah; Frank b MD 1787; Rector b 1832; Benjamin b 1818, John H. Jr. b 1837, Capt John H b 1832. Sep 1870, Capt John H and Jane moved to MO. March 16, 1872, Francis Died in Hamp. Co. Poor House According to 1850 census of Hamp. Co., Dist 24, Dwelling 10, Hannah Piles, age 64, lived with Comfort Poling, a female, age 74. As noted by census she could not read or write. Was she the widow of ...? Also in the household was Sarah Piles, age 43 and Malinda, age 13. This apprears to be a widow, daughter in law and granddaughter. This Zachariah Piles seems to have spent much time in Hampshire Co. The other Zachariah was in Mongaglia Co from age 11. He seems to have stayed there. This will give all those interested in this line something to think about over the Labor Day holiday. -----Original Message----- From: Ron Pyle [SMTP:piguy@goldrush.com] Sent: Monday, September 01, 1997 9:21 AM To: Ron Pyle; Peggy Pyle Cc: PYLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Pyle-Pile Book In the Pyle/Pile book on page 212 we find Zachariah Piles. My esp tells me that the Frances Piles line is the line that I should be chasing more than any other line. Rachel and I have gone through this before, but at the bottom of the page we find Zachariah Jr. Now I want you to turn to page 488 of the Pyle/Pile book and let me know if you see what I see. Coincidence, maybe. On page 487 we find that William Pyle's wife was Mary Jones and on page 194 of the Pyle/Pile book, we find who? another coincidence, Maybe? So everytime I hear a peep about Zac from VA. I get this twitch in my left eye, Give me some ideas please! Ron, from the Home of the Jumping Frog. ---------- | From: Ron Pyle <piguy@goldrush.com> | To: Peggy Pyle <peggy@getonthe.net> | Cc: PYLE-L@rootsweb.com | Subject: Re: Pyle-Pile Book | Date: Saturday, August 30, 1997 8:05 PM | | Peggy; | That's the same way we feel about our William. I think that there's a | Zachariah in the wood shed. | | Ron Pyle | | ---------- | | From: Peggy Pyle <peggy@getonthe.net> | | To: PYLE-L@rootsweb.com | | Subject: Re: Pyle-Pile Book | | Date: Saturday, August 30, 1997 7:27 PM | | | | I was at Mid Continent Library in Independence MO this weekend and they | had | | this book in their collection. | | | | After looking through this book, and most of the other stuff available at | | this library, very thoroughly on Friday & Saturday(today), I have decided | | that Benjamin Pyle was an immaculate conception or was spontaneously | | concepted or hatched or whatever you want to call it, but the man does | NOT | | have a father. | | | | I give up. Anyone have any ideas? I am open to any suggestions. | | Peg | | |

Here's the second part of Ernie's story: And this from the same writer: I've often remarked that cemeteries are for the living. To walk through a quiet, garden-like compound marked with memorial stones provokes reflection. Though many are frightened at the prospect of traversing a graveyard, such a stroll can serve to remind us of our mortality and help us recall those who left behind the same work we are doing. Late last year, business took me to Hawaii, and good timing allowed my wife to make the trip, giving us four days in Waikiki without the children. For me, it was a first. I've crossed the Pacific Ocean numerous times since moving to Japan, but this was the first time I'd ever set foot on the soil of our 50th state. As would any good first-time tourist, I took a tour of the Waikiki-Pearl Harbor area. We visited the Arizona Memorial, drove through Chinatown, stopped on a wharf not far from the Aloha Tower, and drove through the Punchhbowl to visit the war memorial cemetery on the hill. The tour bus on which we were riding merely made a pass through the cemetery, stopping briefly so passengers could admire some spindly legged birds on the lawn. I looked out the window at the headstones. We had parked directly in front of the grave of Ernie Pyle, with the headstones of two unknown soldiers flanking the famous reporter's resting place. According to our guide, being buried between two unknown soldiers was one of Pyle's requests. Pyle died on April 18, 1945. A sniper's bullet killed him on the island of Ie Shima, just off the coast of Okinawa, where island-hopping American forces were making a push toward mainland Japan. In previous tributes written about him, it's been said that Pyle died because he didn't duck. He apparently looked up to check that his companions were O.K. and that's when the sniper's bullet found him. Saying that he didn't duck is itself a tribute to Pyle's doggedness in covering the war; he didn't duck danger. He covered the blitz of London; he covered the landing on the beaches of Anzio; and when the assignment came, he went halfway around the world to cover the other front in Okinawa. April 18 -- the date of Pyle's death -- has been officially designated as National Columnists Day in honor of Pyle. The organization that pushed for the official day, the National Society of Newspaper Columnists, wants the memory of Pyle to remind those of us who write for a living of what comprises the best attributes of an American columnist. The society urges columnists to remember Pyle and write about him each year as this anniversary of his death comes around. Pyle is warmly remembered and accolades for him continue even 50 years after his death. It truly impresses me that Pyle remembered and asked to be buried among the unknowns who fought and died in defense of their country. Pyle dropped out of Indiana University in 1923, short of a degree, but eager to go to work as a journalist. Before he became famous covering World War II, Pyle was a national columnist who had crossed the United States 35 times. When he did go to war, Pyle knew the danger. He said ``there's just no way to play it completely safe and still do your job.'' When then-President Harry Truman spoke to the nation of Pyle's death, he said, ``No man in this war has so well told the story of the American fighting man as American fighting men wanted it told.'' I think Pyle wouldn't have minded one bit that I'm going to attend to a lesser known soldier. My colleagues in the N.S.N.C. will forgive me and understand, I think, if I divert my attention on April 18 of this year from Ernie Pyle and remember someone else. I never knew this soldier, but his name is on an award we give annually to military journalists, and his story is mounted with photos in display cases in our lobby at Stars and Stripes in Tokyo. His name, along with two others who worked for Stars and Stripes, is engraved in the new Arlington, Va., Freedom Forum Memorial to journalists who died doing their job. Twenty-eight years ago, a gutsy newspaper reporter, cut from the same material as Pyle, argued his way into being given orders to report to Vietnam to cover the war there for Pacific Stars and Stripes. Paul D. Savanuck dropped out of college -- enroute to a journalism degree -- at the University of Maryland in his senior year in 1967 to join the Army. Echoes of Ernie Pyle seem to lie in his decision. A native of Baltimore -- born the year after Pyle died -- Savanuck volunteered for duty in Vietnam. He did so as a challenge to himself. ``This was a point in my life where I could meet something head-on instead of avoiding it,'' the 21-year-old told a colleague. Again, an echo of Pyle's words regarding danger is clear. There's just no way to avoid it, Savanuck might have said. I can't know for sure, but I have a feeling that Savanuck read just about every word that Pyle wrote. In the small record we have of Savanuck's war days, Pyle's shadow seems to loom large. Pushing to become a Stars and Stripes reporter, Savanuck finally got his wish on April 4, 1969, when he was assigned to Stripes' news bureau in Saigon. He filed a story with accompanying photos on a Philippine unit operating near the Cambodian border. It was the last story he wrote. In a letter back to his parents and on a letter accompanying his attempt to gain admission to Harvard, Savanuck had written: ``I have found what I want to do . . . journalism, . . .'' Volunteering to do a story on pacification in the DMZ, Savanuck headed north. He camped with a cavalry regiment that was attacked by North Vietnamese troops. Wounded while taking pictures, he discarded his camera and rushed to help more seriously wounded soldiers. He was hit in the back by automatic weapon fire. He was 23 years old when he died. The date was April 18, 1969. On that day, Ernie Pyle, 1900-1945, met Paul D. Savanuck, 1946-1969, journalist.

Dear Cousins; In my forth coming novel "Meanwhile back at the ranch." Hopefully finished by the year 2000 or so, I do quite a bit on our cousin Ernie. Here are two stories that I came across from Stars & Stripes that anyone close to Ernie may appreciate: A Tribute to Ernie by Allan R. Andrews, News Editor, Pacific Stars and Stripes, originally published April 16, 1995 April markes the 50th anniversary of the death of Ernie Pyle, and if the famous correspondent's World War II employers -- Scripps-Howard -- have their way, Pyle will become an even more revered journalistic idol. And well he should, because no writer has provided us words about war that should compel us to peace as has Pyle. An Ernie Pyle museum, struggling for almost 20 years to keep the correspondent's legacy alive, this year got a $250,000 boost from Scripps-Howard's foundation, and on April 18, 50 years after a sniper's bullet killed Pyle on the Pacific island of Ie Shima, the museum is to be dedicated. Located in Pyle's birthplace of Dana, Indiana, the museum takes up two large Quonset huts donated by the federal government and will display rooms full of Pyle and World War II memorabilia. In marking the 50 years since Pyle's death, Scripps-Howard has been reissuing on a weekly basis columns that Pyle wrote during his tenure with the newspaper chain. No matter how one views museums and memorabilia, nothing in the Pyle museum will be able to touch journalists the way his stories from the "beats" of the war are able to touch those of us who make a living as storytellers and recorders of instant history. In some respects, Pyle's columns are a liability to the politically correct because as a product of his times he minces no words in describing the enemy of his beloved U.S. soldiers. In a recent republished column, for example, one written in March of 1945 from aboard the aircraft carrier Cabot in the Pacific, Pyle uses the perjorative "Jap" in referring to the Japanese four times in the space of about 200 words. Beyond the nasty labels, however, is a writer unafraid of the English language, unafraid to describe with colors and similes, and unafraid to show his own emotions in his exposition. Pyle would probably flunk a lot of contemporary feature writing courses. Most young reporters would disdain his quaint ways of gathering news. Pyle often casually mentions men in the field without bothering to give their names. That's a major no-no in journalistm's current preoccupation with informational details. On the other hand, Pyle's observant eye probably tells us more about these nameless men than any contemporary journalist would dare describe. Pyle was biased. he calls the Cabot "my carrier." Pyle was sentimental. He relates his ship to mid-America, saying the carrier has all the gossip and small talk of a small city, and he constantly includes himself among the troops with a collective "we." Pyle was mannered. He used words such as "noble" and "proud" and "cuss" in talking about the carrier and her crew. Pyle was provincial. He compares the ship to a Midwestern town lacking only "a hitching rack and a town pump with a handle." Most of all, Pyle was honest, describing what he saw and knew with words that were common and clear. Consider this passage describing "my carrier," "It doesn't cut thru the water like a cruiser, knifing romantically along. It doesn't dance and cavort like a destroyer. It just plows. You feel it should be carrying a hod, rather than wearing a red sash." (For city-slickers like me, a hod is a trough on a pole borne on the shoulders for carrying loads like bricks or coal.) Clearly, Pyle spoke the language of the common laborer, which was how he viewed the soldiers, sailors and Marines with whom he traveled. In the media before television, Pyle holds the regard of many as one who taught Americans what war is really like. Writer Studs Terkel said of Pyle, "It is exquisite irony that this journalist became celebrated for celebrating the non-celebrated." As one of his biographers, David Nichols, said of Pyle's writings, "Pyle was a novelty as a war correspondent. Only rarely did he write about the so-called 'big picture.' Rather, Pyle focused on the individual combatant -- how he lived, endured by turns battle and boredom, and sometimes how he died . . . ." One of Pyle's most famous columns concerns the death of Capt. Henry T. Waskow of Benton, Texas. (Of about 15 soldiers described in this column, Waskow alone is named.) Pyle's poignant observations of how the men of an Army company in the 36th Division in Italy treated the body of their young -- 27 -- and too-soon dead captain included these words: "You feel small in the presence of dead men, and ashamed at being alive, and you don't ask silly questions." Terkel has also observed that Pyle's writings ironically became quickly "disremembered" at the end of the war. That's how we are when we regard war -- if we regard war. As Eleanor Roosevelt noted, war is easy to forget, and younger generations often recall only the heroism and the glamor. Pyle's writings, however, the former first lady reminded us, help keep "the dirt, the hardships, the horror of death and the sorrow" from fading from our consciousness. No memorabilia in any museum can remind us of war's reality as can the words left us by Pyle. And while the idiosyncrasies of language and labels may date them, his writings remain a mud-covered, blood-spattered, sorrow-filled tribute to the sainthood of those who were damned for an insane season in the earthly landscapes of hell.

Ron, Thanks for the information, I have made a notation in my book with reference to the other book and spellings. Never worked that line. Sara Ron Pyle wrote: > > Elizabeth's name is misspelled in the Pyle/Pile book and should be Cocke > instead of Cooke. This can be documented by checking "Cockes and Cousins," > by Lonnie Doss Cocke & Virginia Webb Cocke, Vol. 1 & 2. Number 2 contains > the Pyle line. LDS family history centers have access to the microfishe > > | Subject: Re: Geo.TURNER PYLE > | Date: Monday, September 01, 1997 7:51 AM

Elizabeth's name is misspelled in the Pyle/Pile book and should be Cocke instead of Cooke. This can be documented by checking "Cockes and Cousins," by Lonnie Doss Cocke & Virginia Webb Cocke, Vol. 1 & 2. Number 2 contains the Pyle line. LDS family history centers have access to the microfishe Ron Pyle ---------- | From: pyle@airmail.net | To: PATRICK H MURRAY <pat.murray@juno.com>; PYLE-L@rootsweb.com | Subject: Re: Geo.TURNER PYLE | Date: Monday, September 01, 1997 7:51 AM | | Don't have a lot on this at first glance in the PYLE-PILE Book. What it | does show is that George PYLE married Elizabeth COOKE, dau. of Pleasant | COOKE (slight diff in spelling)in Henrico Co.,VA. | | As far as Susanna TURNER, she had three children at the time of her | marriage to Robert,on 30 Dec. 1725,in Providence, Chester Co.,PA : | George, James and Dorothy TURNER. It is possible that her son George | adopted the PYLE name but the book is silent on the subject at least | what I have been able to spot. There might be another generation in | between. | | Anybody on the list have any ideas about this? PA had good records for | the Orphans Court too. | | Sara | | | PATRICK H MURRAY wrote: | > | > Sara, | > Do you know if Robert Pyle (Dave's # 32, 6th Gen.) and his second | > wife Susanna Turner had any issue??. I seek the parents of George Pyle, | > b ca 1766 (place unknown) who m. Elizabeth Cocke in Henrico Co., they | > had a son George TURNER Pyle. I can not place the TURNER name in the | > family. This TURNER name was carried down through the Pyle family. | > Patrick Murray | > pat.murray@juno.com |