Interestingly enough, I called the local library to see if they had a copy and the answer was no. Beyond that they weren't much help locating it either. However, I contacted the Hesburgh Library at the University of Notre Dame and although they did not have it either, they were able to locate the nearest copy. Of all places, Kokomo, Indiana! About 2 1/2 hours one way. Does anyone have the email address for the publishing company. I'd like to send them a nice message to help encourage them to publish a fifth addition. I think that most of us have something we could contribute to improve on the previous addition and that could make it worth their while to print an updated edition. Roger bigblkvet@aol.com In a message dated 97-10-27 17:04:57 EST, you write: << Ron Pyle wrote: > > Roger; > The Pyles live in Kokomo Indiana and have sold all of their fourth > printing. Almost all of the Major libraries carry it. I was fortunate to be > in the right place at the right time to get mine. > I hear that the Pyles may be looking forward to their fifth printing and > should be with the interest that has came with the start of > > > Ron >>

I see so many references concerning the unavailability of Howard Pyle's book that I thought I would share this bit of info with you. The Interlibrary Loan System is a wonderful service. It works like this. If your library participates in this system, one may obtain any book that is available in any other library. For instance, just recently I made a trip downtown to our county library. I asked the librarian to order a book for me. I gave her the name of the book, the publisher and some other pertinent data. She turned to her computer and found the book in a library in Texas. She ordered it. It came in the following week. It cost me $3.17 to bring the book home and keep it for 3 weeks. Now I have no idea if libraries everywhere are able to do this and since I have not requested Mr. Pyle's book, I certainly can't gaurantee that it is available. But you can't lose anything by trying. Frances

For some of the newer members who may not be aware of all that the net has to offer, I am re-posting this link. Sara The GNIS mapping system at: http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html will tell you the county, latitude & longitude, and other info for any location (town, cemetery, reservoir, stream, whatever) in the US and it will show you a map of the area with your location pinpointed. Just type in the name you're seeking, the state (use the 2-letter postal code, like VA for Virginia) and click on Send Query. It's extremely useful and even includes some extinct towns. Bookmark it.

Hi again, After I sent the note about Dolores joining our list, I received this from her. Because she has a typing problem I will go ahead and post all of this for her. Sara ** Sara - we have probably seen rach other at the library & just don't know each other! This is the http I mentioned - might help someone across the ocean. It was my PA group not the MO group. My husband has Thomas Pyle d.1561, of Bopton, Wilts., Eng., so add him to the list too. Forgot to tell you that. Short note this time - my wrist does hurt - guess the stitches are healing. It will be a while before I can type with both hands. Waiting for dos & don'ts. Dolores I found a very large genealogy link site today, and wanted you folks to benefit from my discovery. It is called Ian's Genealogy Page: http://www.nor.com.au/business/imwd/genlinks1/ Hope you like it.

Are any of these names in your family? 1. Ivie /Iva PYLES, 107 Bellview Ave, Fairmont, WV. from about 1908 until 1957. Teacher @ Barnes School, married c. 1952, to Roy BOYER b. 29 May 1906 d. Apr 1987. After Fairmont, moved to Yankeetown, FL where Roy died and I suspect, Ivie did, too. Roy had siblings in Florida as late as 1992. 2. Albert T. PYLES, (brother, cousin, or uncle to Ivie?) spent much time teaching at the reservation school at Pine Ridge and Keystone, SD, wife Nellie _______, daughter Dorothy "Dotty". 3. Gladys PYLES, (cousin to Ivie?) Possible spouse Ryland ____, poss. daughters Alma, Margie. 4. Esther PYLES, (sister to Ivie?), who served with the WAACs in Carlsbad NM 1943, and Fairfield CA in 1944. 5. Clarence, who served in the USN in WWII. 6. Wilson & Clarissa SHAHAN, her grandparents. 7. Rhodena PYLES, widow of Allan / Acquilla / Equilla PYLES, according to city directories, possibly mother or aunt. Died c 1951. 8. Larra SHAHAN or Cary SHAHAN, either poss. mother to Ivie. Linda

Hello cousins! This morning I had a very nice chat with Dolores Miltenberger and she has joined our list! She a descendant of Dr. John PYLE of N.C. and is linked to the same line Rena is researching. Welcome to the Pyle list, Dolores! When you have time, please tell us about your research. Sara Plano, Texas

I found the following names on a microfilm recently. Thought I would pass it along just in case it may be of some help to any of you on the list. 1880 KANSAS SOUNDEX Name Age Place of birth Pyle, George W. 36 OH , Lou 32 OH Strawn, Abigail (mother in law) 62 PA Pyles, Henry 35 OH Pyle, Horace E. 30 IN Maggie 21 PA Pyle, James B. 51 KY Mary A. 47 IL Pihl, John A. 48 Sweden Mary A. 47 Sweden Pile, W. S. 35 MO Pyle, William 33 England Samantha 28 PA Pyles, Albert 30 OH Joanna 29 OH Pyle, Edgar 29 IL Low (or Lou) 25 Iowa Pyle, Edna 29 MO Susan M. 26 IN Pile, George 27 MO Jane 40 OH Pile, George 27 MO Lou Ella 19 OH Pyles, Henry 35 OH Fannie 25 Iowa Pyle, Horace E. 30 IN Maggie 21 PA Pyle, J.B. 26 IN Eliza 21 IN Pyle, James F. 26 MO Harriett 19 IL Pyle, John 32 MO Amanda 19 IL Pyle, M.G. 41 IN Pyle, Milton 25 IL Ellen S. 27 OH Pile, W. S. 35 MO E. M. 34 MO Pyles, Adison 33 IN Ellen 28 KS Pyles, John 27 IN Laurah 27 IN Piles, Joseph 40 VA Mary 29 VA Daughter Fanny 6 KS Pyles, Laura 40 MO Piles, Mary A. 49 KY Pyles, Salem 34 WV Lucinda 34 WV Son Joshua 13 WV Daughter Charlotte 6 IL Piles, Thomas J. 34 IN Elizabeth 34 IN As you can see, I didn't take time to list all the children, except for Salem and Lucinda. But if you see something interesting, at least you will know where to look. Frances

As y'all will recall, I spoke with Howard just about a month ago and he indicated the publisher was interested in doing another printing because of all the calls and letters. (No doubt generated by some of our members!) <G> I am beginning to wonder if all of you are getting all of the mail because we just had this "conversation" not that long ago. At any rate, the last time the book was available it was selling for $99.50. I have no idea what the price will be if re-printed. Sara Plano, Texas Ron Pyle wrote: > > Roger; > The Pyles live in Kokomo Indiana and have sold all of their fourth > printing. Almost all of the Major libraries carry it. I was fortunate to be > in the right place at the right time to get mine. > I hear that the Pyles may be looking forward to their fifth printing and > should be with the interest that has came with the start of > PYLE-L@rootsweb.com. > > Ron > >

Hi All, Have not posted in awhile, but wanted to share a little of my vacation with you. Several days was spent looking for Pile's (died or alive). Went to Milburn, Graves Co. Ky. to Milburn Cem. We knew that my husband grandparents were buried there. Hubert L. Putman b. 1-2-1884,d.12-3-1946, Ruth Pile Putman b.4-4-1879, d. 11-7-1971. He did not know that his greatparents Richard Pile b. 9-17-1842, d. 4-7-1903, Elmina Jane Breckenridge Pile b. 5-15-1847, d. 11-20-1891, or his great great grandparents Joseph Van Meter Pile b. 2-18-1808, d. 6-17-1891, Mary E. Phillips Pile b. 12-8-1816, d. 11-17-1892 were buried there. Also found the following family members: Christopher Pyle b. 8-26-1851, d. 11-23-1890 Julia E. (wife of Christopher Pyle) b. 3-11-1860, d. 10-15-1912 B.F. (Benjamin) Pile b. 8-10-1857, d. 2-27-1915 Lillian M. Wilson (wife of B.F.Pile) b. 1-25-1868, d. 5-21-1929 Elmina Boswell Pile (wife of B.F. Pile) b. 4-5-1862, d. 7-24-1890 Joseph Garland Pile (son of B.F. Pile) b. 8-12-1892, d. 8-25-1895 F.R. Pile (Ferdinand) b. 1855, d. 1884 C.R. Pile b. 1-6-1825, d. 10-12-1907 Martha Ann wife of C.R.Pile b. 10-4-1850, d. 7-29-1931 I will have to make a return trip to this Cem., because while I was there is was raining like crazy and some to the tombstones needed cleaning, to make them readable. Next trip I'll be better prepared. Then went to St.Louis.Mo to visit his Aunt, and meet some descendants of Richard Pile. I got updates on 2 of his children Lela Pile and Kate Pile. Got names and addresses of people who might be able to give me update of some of his other children. The most wonderful thing that I was given was a picture of Richard Pile as a young man of 20 years old in his Civil War uniform. It just so happen this picture had his name and age written on the back. So I have been spending time making sure all of my pictures have names, dates and locations. I know I enjoyed my vacation and I think my husband did too. Charlene

I think that sounds like a wonderful vacation, Charlene. A change of scenery plus great research, meeting folks and getting new contacts! You really filled in some missing branches of the family tree judging by all of those names and dates. Sara

Hi all, Dolores is practically in my backyard. I will give a call. Sara Plano the moment while I recover from hand surgery. He is descended from > : Thomas Pyle of Bupton, Wiltshire, Eng., (d. 1561) whose dau. Jane md. > : Thomas Ludlow. Thanks, Gordon and Dolores Miltenberger. 10820 Colbert > : Way, Dallas TX 75218-1807. ph# 214-349-5318

Hello All, I am trying to locate any information on a Robert Marion Pyle family. Located in and around LaGrange , Georgia and Mobile, Alabama. His daughter Grace Alma Pyle is my wife's Grandmother which she never knew and we have little to go on. Any suggestions appreciated. Craig cmkruse@bellsouth.net

Ron, Is this Thomas Withers' ancestors or descendants? I would be interested if it were ancestors. Dave

In a message dated 97-10-26 09:38:47 EST, you write: << Subj: Re: Richard and Lavina Piles Date: 97-10-26 09:38:47 EST From: piguy@goldrush.com (Ron Pyle) To: Bigblkvet@aol.com CC: PYLE-L@rootsweb.com Roger; The Pyles live in Kokomo Indiana and have sold all of their fourth printing. Almost all of the Major libraries carry it. I was fortunate to be in the right place at the right time to get mine. I hear that the Pyles may be looking forward to their fifth printing and should be with the interest that has came with the start of PYLE-L@rootsweb.com. Ron >> ----------------------------- 10/26/97 Ron, Is there an address I can write to and get on a mailing list or will it be available through the bookstores? I would be interested in writing them. With the information you gave me the other day, I could fill them in on Richard's children. I have all their names and dates. As a matter of fact, I have a photo of their headstone. It looked rather new. Someone in our family may have recently placed the headstone. It's a single headstone that lists all the names on one stone. I took a picture of it while I was there. They are buried in the Price Cemetary outside the very, very small town of Redford, Missouri. One interesting note too. Your message indicated 10 children and everything I have indicates 8. Two must have died very young or at birth. Based on the information I already have, I've determined the two missing are your #7 male, and either #1 or #2 girl. One thing I was unclear about. The names and addresses you sent me, are those people I can write to for more information? Thanks, Roger bigblkvet@aol.com

For some unknown reason have, 13 generations of the Thomas Withers family in my files. Would some one like that file? Thomas Withers was the father of Mary Withers, wife of John Pyle. It was sent to me in jumbled fle and you may want to straighten it out , but it is all there. I just don't feel justified in filling up rootsweb with it. Ron Pyle.

Dolores; Do you have the Pyle book now, I have one and can look up whatever is needed. I also have 95 notes concerning the Pyle clan and will help anyway I can. I am searching for William Pyle, born 1775 in PA. He was the father of my gg-grandfather, Robert Pyle who the Pyle/Pile book says was born in VA., but who my g-grandmother Mary Mack Pyle stated was born in Pennsylvania in 1800. Robert Pyle was the g-grandfather of Ernie Pyle. I have so confused at the present time, I am ready to believe anything, however, I still believe in the Pyle Pile book, Ron ---------- : From: Dolores <shrimp@altinet.net> : To: Pyle, Ron <piguy@goldrush.com> : Subject: Pyle : Date: Saturday, October 25, 1997 11:42 AM : : Ron, Rena McWilliams gave me your email. I have data from Howard T : Pyle's book Pyle-Pile, which says I am descended from John Pyle and Mary : Withers of Bishops Canning, co. Wilts. Do you have this book? He has : none and is vague about things. I have found some of the proof Howard : used, for my line - Edith Pyle md. James Steele. My husband is typist at : the moment while I recover from hand surgery. He is descended from : Thomas Pyle of Bupton, Wiltshire, Eng., (d. 1561) whose dau. Jane md. : Thomas Ludlow. Thanks, Gordon and Dolores Miltenberger. 10820 Colbert : Way, Dallas TX 75218-1807. ph# 214-349-5318

Roger; The Pyles live in Kokomo Indiana and have sold all of their fourth printing. Almost all of the Major libraries carry it. I was fortunate to be in the right place at the right time to get mine. I hear that the Pyles may be looking forward to their fifth printing and should be with the interest that has came with the start of PYLE-L@rootsweb.com. Ron ---------- : From: Bigblkvet@aol.com : To: piguy@goldrush.com : Cc: : Subject: Re: Richard and Lavina Piles : Date: Saturday, October 25, 1997 7:06 PM : : Ron, : : Thanks for the info on Richard and Lavina. Can the book be purchased at a : book store? I'd be interested in getting a personal copy. : : With the information you've provided, I've jumped from 8 to 10 generations. : It's also opened the door to much more information. I was kind of at a : standstill. : : Thanks again for the information. : : Roger : bigblkvet@aol.com :

Ron, Thanks for the info on Richard and Lavina. Can the book be purchased at a book store? I'd be interested in getting a personal copy. With the information you've provided, I've jumped from 8 to 10 generations. It's also opened the door to much more information. I was kind of at a standstill. Thanks again for the information. Roger bigblkvet@aol.com

Earlier, we were all telling where we had seen the book, can someone tell Rena where it can be found in the southeast Texas area? I believe it is in Clayton in Houston? and Waco ? anywhere else?

Hi cousins, The other evening I was at a funeral service for a Greek lady who was my neighbor. My husband and I were talking to another couple at the service who we had not met before. Imagine our surprise when they said their name is PYLE!! But, they were Greek. It seems the name had been Pyllopolis or something like that and had been changed when their ancestors came to this country. Mrs. Pyle said that she sometimes gets calls from people working on Pyle genealogy. <G> The daughter and son-in-law (also Greek) of the deceased lady are also my neighbors (22+ years) and their name is ANDERSON (Andropolous). Sara