Hi Michelle, I am copying this note to PYLE-L in case someone has info to share. Your note is at the bottom of this one. In checking the Howard PYLE book, I found some pages dealing with Caleb PYLE and his first wife Annie SHOWALTER and the second wife ?? HUBBARD. However, it does not mention a dau named Sarah. According to the book, Caleb and Anna (who was Dutch and did not speak English) had three children born in DeKalb, IN: John Showalter Pyle, Katherine Pyle and Miller Pyle. After the family moved to Macon Co.Missouri in 1891, Anna died and that is when Caleb married the lady with an unknown first name, HUBBARD. The second wife bore Caleb two more children: Anna and William. I did find one person in this line who married someone with the surname of HANNA: John Howard Pyle, b.25 Mar 1906 Sheridan WY, m. Lucile HANNA. Not much help to you I am afraid, but I am hoping that someone on the list might help too. We would love to have you join us on PYLE-L and there is no charge. Just let me know and I'll sign you on. Looking forward to hearing from you soon. Sara [email protected] Michelle & Mark wrote: > > Hi Sara > i am searching for my great grandma sarah pyle born in indiana approx 1862 > in my searches it is possible that she may have been the daughter of caleb > and annie (showalter) pyle > but this is something i have not proven yet. was wondering if kyou could > help. > My sarah married Henry William Hannah born in Ohio approx 1850 > thank you > michelle > > Something worth having isn't had, without a struggle.
My Pyle line is from Chatham, Chester Co., PA. The farthest back I go is around the early 1800s to a William Pyle Sr. who married an Ann Miller. Their son William Jr. was born 15May1832 in Chatham, Chester Co. and died 11Dec1900. He married a Mary Jane Holstein. My Grand father, Alfred L. Pyle son of William Jr. was born in London Grove, 06 Sep 1856. I don't have any information back further and I am seeking to break this wall down. Can you help? Robert Haywood Pyle Columbia, SC >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [PYLE] Pyle Family >Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:06:11 EDT > >Hi. > >Is your Pyle family from Chester County, Pa? > >I have the big Pyle book that Howard Pyle published. (we are not in it, >though) > >There is a Samuel Pyle, that was a nephew of Isaac that stopped by Wayne >County, Indiana on his way to Ill. I think this was around 1827 or 28. I am >not at home so I do not have my book. Could this be off your line? > >I will be back home by this time next week. Thanks for answering my e-mail. > >Shirley Pyle > > >==== PYLE Mailing List ==== >Support RootsWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html >Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Shirley, When you get home would you please e-mail me. I'm related to Zachariah Pyle and am looking for my ggrandmother, Rebecca Pyle, b abt 1830. Maybe they will be in your book. Thanks and hope you are having fun. Arden and Ethel [email protected] wrote: > Hi. > > Is your Pyle family from Chester County, Pa? > > I have the big Pyle book that Howard Pyle published. (we are not in it, > though) > > There is a Samuel Pyle, that was a nephew of Isaac that stopped by Wayne > County, Indiana on his way to Ill. I think this was around 1827 or 28. I am > not at home so I do not have my book. Could this be off your line? > > I will be back home by this time next week. Thanks for answering my e-mail. > > Shirley Pyle > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright
Can anyone help me? According to the information given to me, Harriet Atwood Pyle, was born 13 November 1824, in Maine, daughter of (unkown) Pyle and Margaret Farleigh. She died 24 September 1908, in Humbolt County, Iowa. She appears in the 1900 Census in Kossuth Co., Iowa, Lu Verne Township, where she is residing with her daughter Elizabeth Hughes and Elizabeth's husband Lasley Barton. Harriet married George Arthur Russell Hughes (birthdate and death date unkown) who was reported to have been born in Pennsylvania. Harriett and George were the parents of fourteen children. Some of the children were born in Youngstown, Mohoning Co., Ohio; some in Pennsylvania; some in Illinois; and the last two were born in Iowa. I am descended from their daughter Mary Viola Hughes, born 25 March 1852, in Youngstown, Ohio. I would appreciate any leads. Thank you. Charlotte Elise (Richers) Sterling 7 Azalea Road Pineville, LA 71360 E-mail: [email protected]
I'm new at this and what does this mean? Did I push the wrong button or something? Thank you. Shirley
Hi. Is your Pyle family from Chester County, Pa? I have the big Pyle book that Howard Pyle published. (we are not in it, though) There is a Samuel Pyle, that was a nephew of Isaac that stopped by Wayne County, Indiana on his way to Ill. I think this was around 1827 or 28. I am not at home so I do not have my book. Could this be off your line? I will be back home by this time next week. Thanks for answering my e-mail. Shirley Pyle
Thank you any way Shirley
The Pyle book gives my line on page 483 with William, Robert and William. However, the Pyle book places Robert's birthplace as Virginia in 1800, while my Great-grandmother Mary Mack told us he was born in Pennsylvania in the late 1700's and then coming to Ohio with his parents. We are at a brick wall and I was just checking if Mary could have been correct. Thank you for the response. Ron Pyle Angels Camp, Ca. "Home of the Jumping Frog of Calaveras County." ---------- : From: [email protected] : To: [email protected] : Subject: Re: [PYLE] Pyle Family : Date: Thursday, June 22, 2000 8:06 AM :
Shirley, Sorry, no I don't. Patrick H. Murray On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:05:42 EDT [email protected] writes: > Hello > > Do you have an Ebenezer in your line? Or and Isaac Pyle? > > Shirley Pyle > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > Not sure how to sub/unsub? Contact Sara at > [email protected] > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > Patrick H. Murray " THE SEARCH GOES ON "
There is an Isaac Pyles in IL in the 1800s. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 11:06 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PYLE] Pyle Family Hello Do you have an Ebenezer in your line? Or and Isaac Pyle? Shirley Pyle ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== Not sure how to sub/unsub? Contact Sara at [email protected] Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright
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Shirley, so far I do not have on in my line, but I will keep checking as I find out more. michele ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [PYLE] Pyle Family > Hello > > Do you have an Ebenezer in your line? Or and Isaac Pyle? > > Shirley Pyle > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > Not sure how to sub/unsub? Contact Sara at > [email protected] > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > >
Hi, I am a new "cousin" my family line is as follows: (Per my Mothers families information). This is on my mothers fathers side: (I also have Pyle on my mothers, mothers side also) John Pyle, Born 1594 in England, m. Mary Withers, 1652, Son Nicholas I, baptized 1625 At Bishops Canning, m. Edith Musprat 9-22-1656. Son Nicholas Pyle II, baptized 8-16-1666 at Bishops Canning. Immigrated to America in 1682 to Chester Co., PA. m. Abigail Bushell 9-1688, 2nd wife was Ann Webb, m in 1713. Son Samuel Pyle, born 2-21-1700, d 1749. Lived at Kennetts Square, Chester Co. PA. Son John Pyle II, b 1721 d. 1-1-1804. m. Sarah Baldwin, moved to Catham NC. Doctor Educated in England. Was British Officer, violent Tory until his capture by George Washington's army, after which he was doctor for "our" army. Son Nicholas Pyle III, b. 1748 d. 1829 m. Ann Black 1807 Son Nicholas Pyle IV, b.2-20-`1781, m. Mary Pyle in Christian County, KY in 1807. Later moved to Dade Co., MO, but left daughter Sarah Jane who had married James Allder in KY. James Allder was the son of George Allder & Nancy Ann Jett. Son Ben Pyle b. 11-4-1819 d. 7-10-1891 m. Melissa Compton d. 1-31-1876. Ben & Mellisa come to Mo in 1832 settled in Green Co. later in Dade County. Daughter Sarah Pyle, b. 11-22-1815, d 2-9-1884, m. 1838 James Allder b 7-25-1806, d. 1856 or 1858, Son John Ezra Allder b. 1-13-1843 d. 9-26-1918 m. Martha Pyle, daughter of Ben Pyle, Martha Pyle born near Cane Hill, MO. John Allder and Martha Pyle were lst. cousins. Son Alfred Allder b. 2-25-1878 d. 11-7-1959 m. Oral White b. 10-29-1895 Pyles on my mothers, mothers side: I don't know their line before this: Thomas Pyle m. Lucinda Henderson b. 1809 in KY. Daughter Emily Pyle, m. JW Ducker. Daughter Ella Ducker Headlee b. 3-29-1858, d. 3-05-1938 m. Eber White (2nd marriage) 3-05-1878 Daughter Oral White m. Alfred Allder my grandparents. I'm sure this is old information from what I have see on the web site. I just passing my line on. Thanks for any information, anyone can help with. I'm sure I will find a lot as I go through the web site. Thanks Betsy Roy [email protected]
19 June 2000 Dear Patterson, Thank you for the information regarding Paul Pyle's who live in Ohio! Unfortunately, I live in Indiana, and I haven't the slightest idea where the Paul Pyle I met in 1967 lives (or lived). He may be long dead. I assume he was a cousin or nephew of my grandfather. I met him at my grandparent's house. To my knowledge, it was the only time I ever met him, although I may have met him earlier when I was much younger. I don't remember. I have been on vacation for two weeks, so I am just now finding your message. Sorry for not responding sooner, but I didn't even take my computer with me! Anyway, thank you for your reply! Regards, Michael Pyle -----Original Message----- From: Patterson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [PYLE]Michael and the tree in ohio >Hey Michael, I found listing for the following Paul Pyles in Ohio. I was >wondring if any of the towns or streets sounded familiar to you. I would be >happy to write and request a copy of that tree, then share it with the Pyle >site. I doubt that my line of Pyle is on it. No one seems to have my line >from this site. However, I just might get lucky here. Let me know, Sandy > >Paul Pyle >2020 Colton Dr >Dayton , OH > >Paul Pyle >48018 Warnock Glencoe Rd >Saint Clairsville , OH > >Cody M Paul Cody Pyle >1247 Oregon Ave >Steubenville , OH > >J Paul Pyle >2101 Old Troy Pike >Urbana , OH > >PYLE PAUL >48044 WARNOCK GLENCOE RD SAINT CLAIRSVILLE OH > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "mpyle" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:14 AM >Subject: Re: [PYLE] Pyle family from Geneva, Indiana > > >> 5 June 2000 >> >> Dear Paul, >> >> In reply to your query about the family tree that I saw in 1967: no, it >was >> not what you have described; indeed, it was about one of the most >facinating >> documents of my family that I have ever seen. It was a hand made family >> tree in the shape of a tree per se, and each person was listed, not only >by >> name, but also by profession(!), and in a few instances, such as where one >> had been a doctor, addenda such as "He was the first college graduate in >the >> family", etc. It was beautifully done, but let me add a lurid note: when >I >> questioned the individual about making a copy of the family tree, he >closed >> up like a slamming door, grabbed the document as if I were going to print >it >> (or something) without his permission, and I was not allowed to see it >> again. I was eighteen years old at the time, and I could not figure out >> what was going on. To this day, I look back on the incident with both >> amusement and much curiosity and wonder. I would love to see the document >> again. It had family members listed back to the early 1700's, and maybe >> even further back, I don't remember anymore. >> >> Michael Pyle >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gerry Del Rio <[email protected] >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Date: Saturday, June 03, 2000 3:30 PM >> Subject: RE: [PYLE] Pyle family from Geneva, Indiana >> >> >> >Paul, >> > >> >Where could I get a copy of this record? >> > >> >Gerry Del Rio >> >[email protected] >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Paul Crawford [mailto:[email protected]] >> >Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 3:34 AM >> >To: [email protected] >> >Subject: Re: [PYLE] Pyle family from Geneva, Indiana >> > >> >Dear Mr. Pyle, >> >Was the familiy tree you saw in the form of a thin manilla colored book ? >> >Was it called Five Family History? My Mother's side of the family is >PYLE >> >and is listed as one of the families in this book. Hope to hear back >from >> >you either way. Regards, Paul Crawford >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: mpyle <[email protected]> >> >To: <[email protected]> >> >Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:20 PM >> >Subject: [PYLE] Pyle family from Geneva, Indiana >> > >> > >> >> 30 May 2000 >> >> >> >> I am looking for antecedents of Curry S. Pyle, my great-grandfather, >who >> >died in 1965 at the age of 94. His son, my grandfather, was born in >> Geneva, >> >Indiana. My grandfather's name was Merrill Ernest Pyle, Sr., and he >> married >> >Ermal Pontius, also of Geneva, Indiana, in 1919. She died in Memphis, >> >Tennessee in 1993. Curry S. Pyle married my great-grandmother, Minnie, >but >> >her parents were furious. My grandfather, Merrill, was born in 1896. >> Then, >> >in 1898, my great-grandfather deserted my great-grandmother, moved to >> >Florida, became the author of chapbooks, some of them philosophical, and >> was >> >also a newspaperman, as I understand it. I also understand, perhaps >> >mistakenly, that my great-grandfather tried to reconcile with my >> >great-grandmother at a future time, but the family refused to allow such >a >> >reconciliation. My grandfather saw his father for a short time in 1946 >and >> >again just before my great-grandfather died in 1965. I would love to >know >> >the entire history of his family ! >> >> ! >> >> in Florida, and also his antecedents in Geneva, of whom I know nothing. >> I >> >do know that a relative in Ohio had (maybe still has) a family tree which >I >> >saw personally in 1967. I think that relative's name is Paul Pyle. This >> >family tree went back into the 1700's, but I do not know anything else >> about >> >the family otherwise. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== >> >> All genealogy discussion lists can be found at: >> >> http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html >> >> Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright >> >> >> > >> > >> >==== PYLE Mailing List ==== >> >Not sure how to sub/unsub? Contact Sara at >> >[email protected] >> >Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright >> > >> > >> >==== PYLE Mailing List ==== >> >All genealogy discussion lists can be found at: >> >http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html >> >Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright >> > >> >> >> ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== >> Not sure how to sub/unsub? Contact Sara at >> [email protected] >> Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright >> > > > > >==== PYLE Mailing List ==== >Keep up activity,post queries/ replies to the list. >Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright >
19 June 2000 Dear Ron, I just returned from vacation and found the message below. No, the story is similar, but the events are not the same. My great-grandfather, Curry S. Pyle, who was born in 1873 had a liason with my great-grandmother, Minnie (maiden name not known to me), who became pregnant in 1896. Her family in Geneva was shocked beyond belief (as you might imagine in 1896 in a very small village farming community in Indiana!) and were even more put out by the fact that she married Curry Pyle. After two years, he seems to have abandoned her and to have gone to Florida, where he resided most of the rest of his life. The family story is that he did try to reconcile with my great-grandmother, Minnie, at some time (when, I do not know); however, her family remained adamant about no reconciliation taking place. Minnie, meanwhile, married my step-great grandfather, Jim Krause, with whom she remained until she died in Indianapolis in 1941. I knew my step great grandfather very well when I was young, and remember him fondly. He died in 1970 at the age of 94. He was quite an old codger who had a third grade education, but several patents on things (including an automobile jack!) which he invented. He was a remarkable man, though I can imagine him being a bear to live with as a husband! Michael Pyle -----Original Message----- From: Ron Jeffers <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [PYLE]Michael and the tree in ohio >The story sounds familiar, however, the names don't match. > >These gentlemen are my grandfather and uncle respectively. > >Paul (Leslie) Pyle (Sr.) >48018 Warnock Glencoe Rd >Saint Clairsville , OH > >PYLE PAUL (Leslie, Jr.) >48044 WARNOCK GLENCOE RD SAINT CLAIRSVILLE OH > >My cousin, Paul Leslie Pyle III was last residing in CA. > >Paul Pyle (Sr), was born in 1913. His father was Walter Booth Pyle, m >Lucille Etta Neiswonger. Walter and Lucille were divorced in 1920. (She >filed based on 3 years of abandonment) She was forbidden from >reconcilliation with Walter by her family, who were rather well-to-do in the >early part of the last century. Lucille remarried and Walter sons, Paul and >George Pyle were raised in the Walter Willison family. > >Whereabouts of Walter Booth Pyle post marriage remain something of a >mystery. The father of Walter Booth Pyle was Harry Pyle, m. Emma Mathers, a >young immigrant from England, in Belmont Co., Ohio. Harry died in WV circa >1920 (courtesy of Mr. Smee, thank you sir) > >My Aunt Nancy Pyle (wife of Paul Pyle Jr.)had a family history for the Pyle >family. She unexpectedly passed away in the fall of 1998. Due to the loss, >I hadn't broached the topic of accessing her files with my uncle. > >I'll be back in Ohio in early July for the Jeffers family reunion. I'll >speak with my uncle to see if he has the information available. > >I wish I could be more specific on the dates, etc.. but I'm at the office >and my files are at home. If you wish more information, please contact me >at [email protected] > >Regards, >R.Jeffers >USA, Retired > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "Patterson" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [PYLE]Michael and the tree in ohio >Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2000 09:28:11 -0600 > >Hey Michael, I found listing for the following Paul Pyles in Ohio. I was >wondring if any of the towns or streets sounded familiar to you. I would be >happy to write and request a copy of that tree, then share it with the Pyle >site. I doubt that my line of Pyle is on it. No one seems to have my line >from this site. However, I just might get lucky here. Let me know, Sandy > >Paul Pyle >2020 Colton Dr >Dayton , OH > >Paul Pyle >48018 Warnock Glencoe Rd >Saint Clairsville , OH > >Cody M Paul Cody Pyle >1247 Oregon Ave >Steubenville , OH > >J Paul Pyle >2101 Old Troy Pike >Urbana , OH > >PYLE PAUL >48044 WARNOCK GLENCOE RD SAINT CLAIRSVILLE OH > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "mpyle" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 10:14 AM >Subject: Re: [PYLE] Pyle family from Geneva, Indiana > > > > 5 June 2000 > > > > Dear Paul, > > > > In reply to your query about the family tree that I saw in 1967: no, it >was > > not what you have described; indeed, it was about one of the most >facinating > > documents of my family that I have ever seen. It was a hand made family > > tree in the shape of a tree per se, and each person was listed, not only >by > > name, but also by profession(!), and in a few instances, such as where >one > > had been a doctor, addenda such as "He was the first college graduate in >the > > family", etc. It was beautifully done, but let me add a lurid note: >when >I > > questioned the individual about making a copy of the family tree, he >closed > > up like a slamming door, grabbed the document as if I were going to print >it > > (or something) without his permission, and I was not allowed to see it > > again. I was eighteen years old at the time, and I could not figure out > > what was going on. To this day, I look back on the incident with both > > amusement and much curiosity and wonder. I would love to see the >document > > again. It had family members listed back to the early 1700's, and maybe > > even further back, I don't remember anymore. > > > > Michael Pyle > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gerry Del Rio <[email protected] > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Date: Saturday, June 03, 2000 3:30 PM > > Subject: RE: [PYLE] Pyle family from Geneva, Indiana > > > > > > >Paul, > > > > > >Where could I get a copy of this record? > > > > > >Gerry Del Rio > > >[email protected] > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Paul Crawford [mailto:[email protected]] > > >Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 3:34 AM > > >To: [email protected] > > >Subject: Re: [PYLE] Pyle family from Geneva, Indiana > > > > > >Dear Mr. Pyle, > > >Was the familiy tree you saw in the form of a thin manilla colored book >? > > >Was it called Five Family History? My Mother's side of the family is >PYLE > > >and is listed as one of the families in this book. Hope to hear back >from > > >you either way. Regards, Paul Crawford > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: mpyle <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:20 PM > > >Subject: [PYLE] Pyle family from Geneva, Indiana > > > > > > > > >> 30 May 2000 > > >> > > >> I am looking for antecedents of Curry S. Pyle, my great-grandfather, >who > > >died in 1965 at the age of 94. His son, my grandfather, was born in > > Geneva, > > >Indiana. My grandfather's name was Merrill Ernest Pyle, Sr., and he > > married > > >Ermal Pontius, also of Geneva, Indiana, in 1919. She died in Memphis, > > >Tennessee in 1993. Curry S. Pyle married my great-grandmother, Minnie, >but > > >her parents were furious. My grandfather, Merrill, was born in 1896. > > Then, > > >in 1898, my great-grandfather deserted my great-grandmother, moved to > > >Florida, became the author of chapbooks, some of them philosophical, and > > was > > >also a newspaperman, as I understand it. I also understand, perhaps > > >mistakenly, that my great-grandfather tried to reconcile with my > > >great-grandmother at a future time, but the family refused to allow such >a > > >reconciliation. My grandfather saw his father for a short time in 1946 >and > > >again just before my great-grandfather died in 1965. I would love to >know > > >the entire history of his family ! > > >> ! > > >> in Florida, and also his antecedents in Geneva, of whom I know >nothing. > > I > > >do know that a relative in Ohio had (maybe still has) a family tree >which >I > > >saw personally in 1967. I think that relative's name is Paul Pyle. >This > > >family tree went back into the 1700's, but I do not know anything else > > about > > >the family otherwise. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks > > >> > > >> > > >> ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > > >> All genealogy discussion lists can be found at: > > >> http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html > > >> Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > > >> > > > > > > > > >==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > > >Not sure how to sub/unsub? Contact Sara at > > >[email protected] > > >Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > > > > > > > > >==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > > >All genealogy discussion lists can be found at: > > >http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html > > >Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > > > > > > > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > > Not sure how to sub/unsub? 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Hi Sue, I am copying this note to the PYLE list (of which you are also a member). There are only about 6 subscribers to the PILE list and over 220 on PYLE. The PYLE list covers all variants of the name including PYLES. Thanks for the posting. Sara [email protected] wrote: > > Need help identifying the four unidentified individuals in the following > photograph, taken ca. 1903, which I have posted to my home page. The six > identified individuals are George PYLES of Somerset, Pulaski Co., KY, his > wife Easter NORRIS PYLES, and their four children: > > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-ETilleman/PHOTO/0039photo.htm > l > > Sue Tilleman
James, Here are the birthdates of our Pyle siblings as I have them: 1. Nicholas, 1794-c. ca 1867 in Kaufman Co., TX 2. Abraham, 1795- d. aft 1860 in Stewart Co., Ga. 3. John, 22 Feb 1796- d. 6 Jan 1869 in Kaufman Co. 4. Samuel Eason., 24 Nov 1797- d. June 1841 in Sumter Co., Al 5. Thomas, 1800- d. bef 1850 in Caddo Par., LA 6. James B., 1804- d. aft 1866 in DeSoto Par., LA 7. Peter, 1809- d. Oct 1879 in DeSoto Par. 8. Sarah Ann Pyle Westbrook, 1812- d. 1844 in Miller Co., AK I believe you have Samuel's dob a little too late also, (1770-74, don't know where that came from originally). Charity was born in 1762 according to 1850 census and I doubt she was that much older than he. She was listed as 88 years old on the Stewart Co., GA. census living with Abraham. 1800 (Oglethorpe Co., GA) has her 26-45; 1810 (Jasper Co., GA) still 26-45 and 1820 (Henry Co. GA) is 50-60. They don't appear on the 1830 although we know Samuel is still alive living in Henry Co. He bought/sold land after 1830. Charity drew in the 1832 land lottery as a widow. The 1850 census stated that John was born in GA, 1860 said SC. I take the info on the census' rather lightly in some cases. :) Thanks for all this "digging", Doris
Any idea what the "V" stands for in Everitt V. Pyle's name? Larry Maples ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:00 PM Subject: [PYLE] Nicholas PILES - PYLE, born c1803, not c1793 > I'm beginning to get a better handle on the Nicholas PYLE story (son of > Samuel and Charity (EASON) PILES of SC and GA) as a result of some census > work I had a chance to do this weekend. > > For starters, Nicholas PILES/PYLE was born c1803, not c1793, based upon his > entry in the 1860 Kaufman Co TX census, where he appears with his brother > John. Nicholas is 57 in that census, not 67. The entry is, at first glance, > a little deceptive, and the 5 can be misread as a 6. But closer examination > shows it's a 5 with a small smudge that nearly closes the bottom loop. I > have no doubt it is a 5. This information meshes better with the only other > indication I know of regarding Nicholas's age, that is the 1840 Kemper Co MS > census where he reports his age as 30 to 40 years (not 40 to 50 years). > > This information has several important implications for researchers of Samuel > PILES and Charity EASON. For one thing, their first child was apparently not > born until 1795 (Thomas), instead of 1793, which gives then a little more > time to have gotten married and started a family (relative to the information > that Samuel was born in the 1770-1774 time frame). Also, it may be > significant that they chose to name their first child Thomas, and waited > until after four or five sons to name one Nicholas. Perhaps the association > to the earlier Nicholas PILES of South Carolina is not as close as imagined > earlier. > > This new understanding helps a bit with the places of birth of the children, > which was a source of some confusion. In 1860, John says he was born in SC, > and Nicholas says he was born in GA. Those reports, which were confusing > when we thought Nicholas was born before John, now make sense. John was born > in SC before the family migration to Oglethorpe Co GA, and Nicholas was born > after the migration. > > The four sons who appear in the 1800 GA census were therefore likely Thomas, > John, Samuel, and Abraham. Nicholas came later. One small problem is that > things get a little tight around Peter (born c1803), and James (born c1804). > Perhaps two of these three later sons were twins, or perhaps they were spaced > out a little differently. > > An 1803 birth date also works a little better for Nicholas, son of Samuel, in > that he first appears in 1825 in Covington Co MS, with his (older) brother > John PYLE (when he would have first become an adult); and it means he married > at the age of around 28 (in 1831 to Mary WESTBROOK) rather than at the age of > 38, which seemed old. > > One more census treasure: Nicholas seems to have been in Floyd Co GA in the > 1848 to 1852 time frame, according to promissory notes that appear in Floyd > Co GA records (Thank you Doris HAYNES). But there is no entry for Nicholas > in the 1850 census. I gave 1850 Floyd County a pretty close look, but found > nothing that offered even the possibility of Nicholas and family having been > there but misenumerated. I did run across an Everitt FILES (age 16, born GA, > a laborer in the household of a "mechanic", page 109.) The age is a bit off, > but I suspect this is Everitt V. PILES (age 18 born GA), and can imagine that > age 16 was a guess by Everitt's employer. (He would have been closer to 18.) > Everitt's presence is a clue that Nicholas was there also, but simply > missed, since he was a "renter", not a land owner. > > Thanks also to Carolyn FULMER, who has generously shared information that has > been essential to sorting out this story. > > Jim Smee > Pittsburgh PA > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > PYLE Listowner- Sara B. Pyle > [email protected] > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright >
The information you have provided to us on Nicholas Piles-Pyle over the past few weeks has given me hope that we will find a connection between my husband's ggrandfather, Edward Degustus Pyles-Pyle, b.1844 and Nicholas. We have information that Edward Degustus Pyles-Pyle's mother was named Mary. They lived in St Clair County, Alabama. Earlier, JamesSmee wrote that Mary Westbrook was married to Nicholas and lived in Shelby Co, Al for a few years and then Mary Migrated to St. Clair Co. Al. Edward Degustus "Gus" Pyle married and lived in St Claire County where he had his family. If I could only find proof that Edward Degustus "Gus" Pyles-Pyle was their son I would be extremely happy. I had hoped to have this proof before the Pyle family reunion which is to be held June 24th in Alabama. If anyone has information I would greatly appreciate it. Joan H Pyle > [Original Message] > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Date: 6/11/00 11:01:32 PM > Subject: [PYLE] Nicholas PILES - PYLE, born c1803, not c1793 > > I'm beginning to get a better handle on the Nicholas PYLE story (son of > Samuel and Charity (EASON) PILES of SC and GA) as a result of some census > work I had a chance to do this weekend. > > For starters, Nicholas PILES/PYLE was born c1803, not c1793, based upon his > entry in the 1860 Kaufman Co TX census, where he appears with his brother > John. Nicholas is 57 in that census, not 67. The entry is, at first glance, > a little deceptive, and the 5 can be misread as a 6. But closer examination > shows it's a 5 with a small smudge that nearly closes the bottom loop. I > have no doubt it is a 5. This information meshes better with the only other > indication I know of regarding Nicholas's age, that is the 1840 Kemper Co MS > census where he reports his age as 30 to 40 years (not 40 to 50 years). > > This information has several important implications for researchers of Samuel > PILES and Charity EASON. For one thing, their first child was apparently not > born until 1795 (Thomas), instead of 1793, which gives then a little more > time to have gotten married and started a family (relative to the information > that Samuel was born in the 1770-1774 time frame). Also, it may be > significant that they chose to name their first child Thomas, and waited > until after four or five sons to name one Nicholas. Perhaps the association > to the earlier Nicholas PILES of South Carolina is not as close as imagined > earlier. > > This new understanding helps a bit with the places of birth of the children, > which was a source of some confusion. In 1860, John says he was born in SC, > and Nicholas says he was born in GA. Those reports, which were confusing > when we thought Nicholas was born before John, now make sense. John was born > in SC before the family migration to Oglethorpe Co GA, and Nicholas was born > after the migration. > > The four sons who appear in the 1800 GA census were therefore likely Thomas, > John, Samuel, and Abraham. Nicholas came later. One small problem is that > things get a little tight around Peter (born c1803), and James (born c1804). > Perhaps two of these three later sons were twins, or perhaps they were spaced > out a little differently. > > An 1803 birth date also works a little better for Nicholas, son of Samuel, in > that he first appears in 1825 in Covington Co MS, with his (older) brother > John PYLE (when he would have first become an adult); and it means he married > at the age of around 28 (in 1831 to Mary WESTBROOK) rather than at the age of > 38, which seemed old. > > One more census treasure: Nicholas seems to have been in Floyd Co GA in the > 1848 to 1852 time frame, according to promissory notes that appear in Floyd > Co GA records (Thank you Doris HAYNES). But there is no entry for Nicholas > in the 1850 census. I gave 1850 Floyd County a pretty close look, but found > nothing that offered even the possibility of Nicholas and family having been > there but misenumerated. I did run across an Everitt FILES (age 16, born GA, > a laborer in the household of a "mechanic", page 109.) The age is a bit off, > but I suspect this is Everitt V. PILES (age 18 born GA), and can imagine that > age 16 was a guess by Everitt's employer. (He would have been closer to 18.) > Everitt's presence is a clue that Nicholas was there also, but simply > missed, since he was a "renter", not a land owner. > > Thanks also to Carolyn FULMER, who has generously shared information that has > been essential to sorting out this story. > > Jim Smee > Pittsburgh PA > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > PYLE Listowner- Sara B. Pyle > [email protected] > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > --- Joan Pyle --- [email protected] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet.