Hi all, The following url will take you to the WV Union Militia site. I found 17 PYLES from Marshall Co. and 8 PILES, mostly Preston Co. One entry was Randolph/ Webster/Pocahontas Cos. After you go to the site, click on "Database" and the query screen will come up. http://129.71.134.132/militia/wvunmil.html Sara

Hello, I am searching for information on Zachariah Piles and Elilzabath Jones who had the following set of twins. Susannah and Sarah. Zachariah Piles told a Henry Co., IN census taker in 1900 that he was born in West Virginia and both parents were born in Virginia. His wife Elizabeth Jones disappears after the twins are born and I assumed she died as Zachariah stays near the twin daughters. He remarries to an Arabel and was married circa 1885. Where is unknown. They had one daughter named Ida May, who is in the Henry Co., IN census for 1900. with both parents. Family members who knew Susannah Piles do not know of other siblings of the twins. Susie Piles was my Mother's grandmother. Susie married several times. 1. Neil Carter in Miami County, Ohio and had Elsie May. 2. Milton Williams in Henry Co., IN and had four sons. 3. They divorced and she married Milton's friend William H. Thompson. They had a daughter Edith and a daughter Ruby. 4. Edith is my grandmother. Thank you for your time. Any help with Zachariah and Ellizabeth would be appreciated. Mary Cook La Shure Mary Cook La Shure

For Ron & Jim >>>>   Anyway, I'll start checking my notes for another Pyle-Jones marriage in Kentucky. I guess one of the curses on genealogists is to find you have a Smith and or a Jones in the family. >>>> I had to laugh. My wife is Betti JONES. Her parents are James and Betty JONES. <<<< I know what you mean. My Mothers parents were both Jones. Frank C. Jones and Grace L. Jones. Frank Pyle

Dear Dan; I am not sure where my ggg-grandfather William descended from. I have documentation back to Robert Pyle born in Va. in 1800. the Pyle/Pile book says that William born 1775 in Pa. was his father. My great-grand mother tells us in her history that Gg-grandfather Robert was born in Pa. and moved to Ohio as a child. So I'm reserving my thoughts about William born in 1775 until I see more proof. I believe that Francis Pile and Richard Pile were close and I'm leaning toward Francis's line as the root to our branch of the tree. The fact that my great-grandfather William and his brother Samuel were close to Edward Gant Pyle after he move to San Jose makes that case a little stronger in my eyes. Thanks for the response. Ron ---------- : From: [email protected] : To: [email protected] : Subject: Re: [PYLE] Edward Gant Pyle : Date: Friday, August 11, 2000 2:16 PM : :

Heny G Pile was married to Hannay Pomeroy Duncan....a direct decendant of King Henry and William The Conqueror. Pomeroy has a family page just like we do.

Ron, if you know who you are looking for, you can call or write Oak Hill Funeral Home & Memorial Park (408-297-2447). They can look up and tell you if they have a match. They are not (in 1999) computerized yet. The address is 300 Curtner Avenue, San Jose, Calif. 95125. A grounds keeper helped me look up Edward Gant Pyle grave site. There are many other Piles/Pyles in the cemetary. There is also a Pomeroy burried there too. Edward's brother married Hannah Pomeroy Duncan. This Pomeroy is a direct descendant of Henry The Conqueror and King Heny. Good luck Dan Pile

And William and Nancy had a son: Harrison

Thanks for sharing. Our stories are nearly the same with a few corrections or edits. Feel free to dispute..... 1. Harrison was the son of Lt. William Pile and Nancy Keys (his second wife) 2. I am uncertain who your Sameul Pyle is! Was the your great grandfather William the son of my Lt. William Pyle? 3. Actually, Edward sent his son Edward Gant Pile, Jr. to rescue the Donners. Edward and Mary Ann Graves were the first marriage in Sutters Fort. Married by Sinclair. Their marriage certificate once was on display at the fort. I have a copy of it.... 4. Sutters personal diaries reference Edward Sr. on several occasions. 5. Edward Pile Sr. apparently lead 3 wagon trains during his life. 6. Thomas, Edward Pile's other son, was also murdered over a argument with hired hands "over a remarks made about a family member." 7. There are several accounts Edward's involvement in the Donner Party. A couple state that Edward got into a heated argument with George Donner over the route to take over the Sierras....leading to their split. 8. A Tombstone at Oak Hill Cemetary refers to the Pyle-Whiteman Party....not sure who Whiteman is but I think he was a son in law. Thanks.... Dan Pile

Dear Anita, My GEDCOM is a partial listing of the descendants of Samuel Pyle and Charity Eason and his bother John. John --- A Seybold <[email protected]> wrote: > John, > > What are the names of your Southern Pyles so we can > look it up?? > > Anita > > > Dear Friends, > > Southern Pyle researchers may be interested in the > GEDCOM that I has posted to ancestry.com and > rootsweb.com. Of course, this is a work in > progress,and any comments would be welcome. > > John Tyler > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > Not sure how to sub/unsub? Contact Sara at > [email protected] > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

FREE until Aug. 20, 2000 at Ancestry.com: Rocky Mountain News (Denver Colorado) obits for 1998-1999 http://www.ancestry.com/search/rectype/inddbs/3619.htm PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO YOUR OTHER LISTS, Thanks, Sandy

To anyone on the list who is following the WV Pyles family of Oliver Pyles: I have a problem trying to put my information together for the Pyles background in my family. I thought I'd present my evidence and hypothesis and hopefully spur some discussion with others who might have other or more information on the matter. So, here goes..... My gr-grandmother Minnie May Means (married name) came from a Pyles family, and I believe it was from Oliver J. Pyles's daughter Mary. On Minnie May's death certificate, her parents were listed as "Wm. Russ" and "Mary Pyles." My grandfather, Henry Oliver Means, has her maiden name listed on all of his marriage certificates as "Minnie May Russ." The Putnam Co., WV marriage record for her marriage to Floyd Allen Means showed her name as Minnie May Rush or Rusk. It was difficult to tell the difference between "h" and "k" with the particular handwriting.) Even though Minnie May's death certificate gives her birthdate as 22 May 1878 in Gallipolis, OH, I have been unable to find a birth record for her. I was also given some notes that were taken by another distant family member who was doing this family research. Her notes said that my grandfather (Henry Oliver) was named after his grandfather Oliver Pyles and his great uncle Henry Pyles. However, knowing that his grandparents were a William Russ and Mary Pyles, the relationships of Oliver and Henry to Henry Oliver would have to be pushed back a generation to gr-grand- father and gr-great uncle. Also, my father and uncle had always thought that Minnie May's maiden name was Davis because she had two brothers with the last name of Davis. I found in Minnie May's obituary that she was survived by two step brothers-Shilo Davis of Huntington, WV, and Buell Davis of Charleston, WV. I was also told by my uncle that Minnie May's sister Ida married Floyd Allen's brother Joseph Ira Means. I found the marriage record for Ira and Ida in Mason Co., WV, for 22 Mar 1899. Ida's last name in this record was Lindsay. Also, the marriage record for Ira and Ida's son Ira (in Columbiana Co., OH) showed the parents names as "Joseph I. Means" and "Ida Lindsay." I had also found in "Putnam Co. (WV) Deaths (1853-1968)" the death records for two of Ira and Ida's children. One of the records listed the parents as "Ira Means & ? Davis." The other record showed the parents as "Ira & Ida (Russ) Means." In other marriage records I have found a Mary Pyles or Mary Piles listed several times. In "Gallia Co. (OH) Marriages (1851-1900)," there is a record of a Benjamin E. Abbott marrying a Mary Pyles on 22 Apr 1878. In the same compilation, there is a record of a James W. Rusk marrying a Mary Piles on 5 Mar 1879. Then in "Mason Co. (WV) Marriages (1870-1885)," for 15 Oct 1885, there is a record of John Lindsey, 40, from Verango Co., PA, marrying Mary Piles, 26, from Wetzel Co., WV. The significance of all of this is that prior to my finding most of this information, I was in contact with Wally Pyles regarding Mary Pyles, the daughter of Oliver Pyles. He told me what information he had on Mary Pyles at that time. He told me of her marriage to Benjamin E. Abbott in Gallia Co., OH. He also said that Mary had been married at least two more times - to a fellow name Lindsay (He didn't knwo the first name.) and to Justice Davis. He didn't mention anything about her being married to anyone named Russ or Rusk or Rush. I have evidence that the Mary Pyles/Piles who were married to the fellow named Lindsay and to Justice Davis are one and the same. Also, from my findings, I would propose that the "Mary Piles" who was married to James W. Rusk is the same Mary who was married to Lindsay and Davis. James Rusk's middle initial "W" could stand for William, fitting with Minnie May's father's name of "Wm. Russ." I'm not sure if Minnie May's last name is Russ or Rusk. The two could sound very similar is said quickly. I'm not sure how Benjamin Abbott fits in, but I have no reason to doubt that the Mary Pyles listed in that marriage record is a different one. I'm not sure that Minnie May's birthdate, as it is listed on her death certificate, is completely accurate because I can't locate a birth record for Minnie May around that date for any of the last names of Abbott, Pyles/Piles, or Lindsay/Lindsey. Also, that birthdate does not seem to fit with the various marriage records for Mary Pyles. Finally, to top off all of this, I have found from searching this mailing list on Rootsweb that Oliver Pyles's wife was Lydia Young. Well, I found in the 1900 Mason Co., WV census a "Lyddie Pilles (May, 1839, 61, WV)" living with Floyd and Minnie May and their three children. The birth year list in the census appears to be in line with the birth year I have found by searching the list - 1839. That's what I have. I realize it's rather long and can be confusing at times. I've tried to present it in such a way to minimize confusion. Let me know what you think of the arguments that I've made here. You can either e-mail me directly or respond to the list. I think that this could lead to interesting discussion on the list if the responses are sent to the list rather than directly to me. Thanks for your time, John Means

Jim; The information that I have concerning William Pile III comes from a complete group sheet compiled by Margaret Cotton Spiry of Cincinnati, Ohio. In it she tells that The second wife of William was Nancy Keyes whose parents were Humphrey Keyes and Sarah Hall. The children of William Pile III and Lucretia Keyes were- 1. Edward Gant Pile, married Rosannah McMahon. 2. Thomas N. Pile married Polly Crume. 3. Margaret Pile married Owens. 4. Mary Wright Pile married Jacob Pierce. 5. Francis H. Pile maried Elizabeth Partly. 6.Sally Pile. 7. William Pile. 8. Henry G. Pyle married toHannah Duncan. And two children from Nancy Keyes 9. Lucretia Pile born 1812 who married John Merrit and 10. Harrison Pile with no data. I will search for other information I may have concerning William and Nancy. Thanks for your response. You are correct in the fact that no where does it mention that Nancy is a sisiter. Ron---------- : From: [email protected] : To: [email protected] : Subject: [PYLE] Re: PILES - KEYES Marriages : Date: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 7:34 PM : : In a message dated 8/9/00 8:52:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, : [email protected] writes: : : << : Anyway, I'll start checking my notes for another Pyle-Jones marriage in : Kentucky. I guess one of the curses on genealogists is to find you have a : Smith and or a Jones in the family. : >> : : Pittsburgh PA : : : ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== : Keep up activity,post queries/ replies to the list. : Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright :

In a message dated 8/9/00 8:52:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Anyway, I'll start checking my notes for another Pyle-Jones marriage in Kentucky. I guess one of the curses on genealogists is to find you have a Smith and or a Jones in the family. >> Hello Ron, I had to laugh. My wife is Betti JONES. Her parents are James and Betty JONES. I think you should keep an open mind regarding this 1813 Breckinridge Co KY William PYLE-Nancy JONES marriage. Taking a look at the PYLE Book, I really don't see anything that looks like documentation that William PYLE married Nancy KEYS. All you have is the 1810 census information that shows that William was "between wives". And if Lucretia KEYS and Nancy KEYS were sisters, it's hard to imagine that Nancy would have been unmarried through all those years between when Lucretia married (1784) and when Nancy then married (after 1810). Seems more likely that if Nancy were Lucretia's sister, then she would have been a widow when she then married her brother-in-law, William PYLE. I would look for a Nancy KEYS/KEYES to ____ JONES marriage, possibly back in VA, or possibly in KY, as one possibility. Or maybe the second wife Nancy was not a KEYS at all. Does anyone have documentation to support the claim that Nancy was a KEYS? I sense that Harrison might have been Nancy's child, but the way Lucretia is mentioned in William PYLE's 1814 will, I would guess that she was older, a child of Lucretia (no documentation, just a feeling based upon the order in which the children are named, several times, in the will). Any and all comments appreciated. Jim Smee Pittsburgh PA

>Anyway, I'll start checking my notes for another Pyle-Jones >marriage in Kentucky. I guess one of the curses on >genealogists is to find you have a Smith and or a Jones in >the family. > > >Ron Could this be the Jones-Pile marriage you're looking for? >1801 >July 21: Mary (Polly) JANES and William PILE were married in Washington >Co., KY. Which William PILE is this? > >This could be (1) the elder William PILE's second marriage, after _________ >CLIFTON, with whom he had 6 children: Elizabeth (? - 1809), Nancy (? - >?), William (1781-?), Thomas C. (1784 -?), John N. (1789 - ?), Bird AKA >Burdett Clifton Pile (b. abt 1794 - ) or (2) the first marriage of William >Pile, Jr. (who would be age 20) before he went on to marry Lorena ATKINSON >in Green >County, KY.Bond was signed by Will PILE and Absolem ATKISON (Lorena's >father).or (3) a cousin named Wiliam PILE. My little line of the Pile clan could use some clarification about how she fits in... Susan P.

Susan, Yes this is the wedding I was referring to and was hoping that it may involve our branch of the Pyle family occurring on page 483 0f the Pyle/Pile book. The oldest boy from that marriage was Zachariah born in 1799, with my gg-grandfather Robert following in 1800. Rachel Meyer and I considered that they could have had a civil ceremony performed in Virginia, followed by a church wedding in Kentucky. I know the answer is right in front of my face and I can't see the forest because of all the trees. Thank you for the response. Ron ---------- : From: [email protected] : To: [email protected] : Subject: Re: Re: [PYLE] Re: PILES - KEYES Marriages : Date: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 8:35 AM : :

John, What are the names of your Southern Pyles so we can look it up?? Anita Dear Friends, Southern Pyle researchers may be interested in the GEDCOM that I has posted to ancestry.com and rootsweb.com. Of course, this is a work in progress,and any comments would be welcome. John Tyler __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

Dear Friends, Southern Pyle researchers may be interested in the GEDCOM that I has posted to ancestry.com and rootsweb.com. Of course, this is a work in progress,and any comments would be welcome. John Tyler __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

Jim; The group sheet I have on Wiliam Pile lists Lucretia's death between 1805-09 and William marrying Nancy Keyes in 1811. This information also advises that William and Nancy had two children following their marriage. These children were Lucretia Pile born in 1812 and Harrison Pile [No Data.] I believe that the only William Pyle marriage we found in Kentucky was that of William Pyle and Polly Jones in 1801. It was thought to be the real marrige date of William Pyle and Mary Jones whose first son Zachariah was born in 1799. This whole Pyle/Pile thing is starting to drive me a bit daffy. I tend to believe that my family came from the Francis Pile, Maryland bunch because of the resemblance my family has to that family. Also the mistakes that Howard and Jane have in their fine book concerning Zachariah on the bottom of page 212 that continues through to page 488. Is it a mistake? Nobody has ever challenged it that I know of. I also believe that there is a relationship between Richard Pile, William I, William II and the William III we are referring to here. there was an association between Edward Gant Pile and my great-grandfather William Pyle after they came to California. My next search is going to be in San Jose [a two hour drive] where I believe my great-grandfather William is buried. California History tells us he was buried in Santa Ana which was a long way out of the families range in 1890. I am laying odds that the biographer made a mistake between Santa Ana and Santa Clara that threw me off the trail for many years. Thanks for the response. I only have about 700 pages of notes concerning the Pyle family. The biggest laugh I had lately was when some one on a Genealogy chat room wrote that Pyle was such an uncommon name, I had to correct her by explaining how many of us there are and every other one was named Robert or William. Jim, you were responsible for a letter once that explained the hereditary foot disease of Zachariah Pile. My daughter and 16 month old grand daughter both came down with blisters all over last month. They live in the very hot central valley and her doctor doe not know what causes them. I can't get my daughter to talk to her doctor about it, I guess she looks at what I have been doing here all these years as some kind of voo-doo. Anyway, I'll start checking my notes for another Pyle-Jones marriage in Kentucky. I guess one of the curses on genealogists is to find you have a Smith and or a Jones in the family. Ron ---------- : From: [email protected] : To: [email protected] : Subject: [PYLE] Re: PILES - KEYES Marriages : Date: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 7:21 PM : : In a message dated 8/8/00 1:15:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] : writes: : :

In a message dated 8/8/00 1:15:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << [William PILES] was released from duty in 1783 and married Lucretia Keyes of Keyes Ferry on Virginia's Shanadoah River and was given 2000 acres of bounty land for his service. Following Lucretia's death, William married her sister Nancy in 1811. >> Ron, I found a record that William PILES married Nancy JONES 26 JAN 1813 in Breckinridge Co KY. Is there any chance that this was a Mrs.Nancy JONES, sister of Lucretia KEYES, entering her second marriage? If not, do you have an idea where this Breckenridge Co KY PILES-JONES marriage might fit? Thanks. Jim Smee Pittsburgh PA

Vicki; Most of this history is based upon assunption and speculation. A little hope is thrown in for good measure. I'm still looking for a connection between William and Mary Jones Pyle and Leonard, Francis and Richard Piles of Maryland. It would seem that if there was a connection in California, it was preceded by some type of relationship in the East. I'm hoping that time will tell. Thanks for the response. Ron Pyle Angels Camp, Ca. "Home of the Jumping Frog of Calaveras County." ---------- : From: Paul & Vicki Graff <[email protected]> : To: [email protected] : Subject: RE: [PYLE] Edward Gant Pyle : Date: Saturday, July 29, 2000 7:53 PM : : Dear Ron, : You are a wonderful historian and I just wish that Edward could be in my : branch of the family tree because I would love to have this story be mine. : Thank you. V. Graff : : -----Original Message----- : From: Ron Pyle [mailto:[email protected]] : Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 11:20 AM : To: [email protected] : Subject: Re: [PYLE] Edward Gant Pyle : : : Dan; this is what ithink I know about Edward Gant Pile. : Correct me if I am wrong. : :