I have gotten a lot of responses on my Sumner Tennessee connected great great grandfather William Pyle. Some of the leads I am still perusing. I have been searching for my grandfathers parents for many years. I believe his father was Jehu Pyle, because this name keeps coming up in places that count, but at this point I still do not have proof. I keep coming back to the following data. Jehu Pyle the son of John and Sarah (Baldwin) Pyle married Rutha Lindley August 8, 1786. Rutha Lindley was born January 7, 1768. The dates match somewhat, my William Pyle was born 1805, that would have made his mother 37 years old when he was born (?). I do not have any birth date for this Jehu Pyle. If anyone has any data on this I would appreciate it. George Pyle Christian County Kentucky

I have been sitting on the sidelines reading all the mail and it would appear that this list is exclusively for people researching in the USA. My PILE family is from Devon in the south of England - with connections going back to 1700. A branch has its origins in Co.Durham. If there is anyone on the list who is researching this name in the UK I may be able to help them! Patricia Taylor.

Judy, A very quick question: In what way does the name PYLES (this spelling) appear on Mary's tombstone? I guess what I'm asking is for an exact transcription of the inscription, for example, is she Mary PYLES, wife of Fairfax PELL or something like that? And just for completeness, is hers a Preston Co WV death certificate? Thanks again for this valuable information. Jim Smee Pittsburgh PA

Shirley,do you have Moses father, Isaac's wife and children recorded? What Kentucky Census were you using for Rebecca in 1860? I am seeking the parents of my great great grandfather William Pyle/Pile and some have suggested Isaac might be his grandfather. A long shot, but if one of Isaac's children is the person they think was my grandfather's father, I will have made a match. Thanks, George Pyle Christian County Kentucky ---Original Message----- From: Shirley Schwartz <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, August 26, 2000 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [PYLE] Sumner County TN PILES >My Piles were in Macon Co TN --Moses M. According to the James Piles NC >will Isaac is the father of my Moses. And, yes, I think they ended up in >Illinois because Moses married a Rebecca Hile in IL c1843 and then they end >up in Macon Co TN for the 1850 census. Anyone know anything about Moses M. >When my grandfather, William Lascassas Piles, was born Moses M. was gone, >dead??? >Rebecca is shown as head of household in KY 1860 census. > >Shirl Poiles (Piles) Schwartz >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:41 PM >Subject: [PYLE] Sumner County TN PILES > > >>One of the original heads of Sumner Co PILES families seems to have been >>Isaac PILES, who appears in neighboring Smith CO TN for the 1820 census, >and >>in Sumner Co for the 1830 census. He was, I believe, the proven son Isaac >>who appears in James PILES' 1820 Orange Co NC will. Isaac was born c1775, >>which fits as a son of the Orange County NC James and as a father of some >of >>the Sumner County lines. >> >>Trouble is, I get the feeling there were at least a couple of lines that >>crossed paths in Sumner County in this era. Some of them consistently used >>PILES and others seem to have been pretty consistent in using PYLE >(including >>the three apparent PYLE siblings who married ALLEN girls and lived in >pretty >>close proximity in Sumner Co in 1830, your William included. >> >>I've wondered if the PILES with the given name Isaac (at least two) and >those >>with the given name Newton (several, including James Newton PILES who wound >>up in Franklin Co IL by the 1840s) might be related, as in Isaac NEWTON. >> >>Jim Smee >>Pittsburgh PA >> >> >>==== PYLE Mailing List ==== >>List archives can be found at: >>http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >>Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright >> > > >==== PYLE Mailing List ==== >All genealogy discussion lists can be found at: >http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html >Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > >

----- Original Message ----- From: R. F. Clark <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [PYLE] Re: Places > I am not sure if I thanked every one for their inputs on my request for > information > on various locations in WV. I did write and receive a map of Preston County > and also have on loan thru the interlibrary program a copy of "West > Virginia > Place Names" by Hamill Kenny. Two great references. Many thanks again to > all that responded to my request. > > Richard > [email protected] > > Original Message ----- > From: Air Pix Post Office <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 8:05 PM > Subject: RE: [PYLE] Re: Places > > > > Richard, > > > > Write to the Preston County Chamber of Commerce and they'll mail you a > > Preston County map if you ask for it. Most of these are on it. I just > got > > back from there and I got one of the maps. Not many cemeteries on it > > though. Bird's Creek is where my family is from and it's just North of > > Newburg on WV 92. Bird's Creek Road runs from 92 over to Just south of > > Kingwood. Only a few miles. > > > > I'm from Randolph County where Laurel Mountain is. It's just North of > > Elkins off US 219. > > > > Charlie Pyles > > Cold Spring, KY > > > > Visit the Air Pix Website at: > > http://www.airpixphoto.com/ > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 8:19 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [PYLE] Re: Places > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > ----615f14e4753d3689 > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Disposition: inline > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Richard, > > > > In addition to the sources Sara suggested, you may want to try a book > > entitled West Virginia > > Place Names. I ran across it at the West Virginia state archives when I > > made a trip there about > > a year and a half ago. It's an older book, but it is absolutely > wonderful. > > Something that I found > > that you should keep in mind when you look for these little places in WV > is > > that their names changed! > > I was looking for a place called Ruby, WV. I contacted all kinds of > people > > and looked in all kinds of > > atlases to no avail. When I went to the archives, I asked one of the > > archivists if he had ever heard of > > it. He had not, but he showed me the book. I looked in there, and, sure > > enough, there it was. Ruby > > was originally called Fraziers Bottom, and, for some unknown reason around > > the time of the Hoover > > administration, its name changed to Ruby. After some time, the name > changed > > back to Fraziers Bottom. > > Very odd if you ask me! Anyway, I don't have the citation details of the > > book with me right now, > > but if you're interested I can get them at home and let you know. > > > > John Means > > Columbus, OH > > [email protected] > > > > > > In reading various e-mails I came across several "place" names in Preston > > County, WV > > > > e.g. > > > > Preston Glades--Birds Creek--Wonderly Cemetery--Laurell Mountain--Fairax > > Pond > > > > Is there any one out there that could identify the exact(?) map > locations > > of the above? > > Also if available---where could I pick up such a map. > > > > Many thanks for your help. > > > > Richard > > > > > > ----615f14e4753d3689 > > > > X-Message: #2 > > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:28:43 EDT > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [PYLE] HELP! > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Eddie > > > > Sorry I can't help you. > > > > Shirley Pyle > > > > ______________________________ > > ----615f14e4753d3689 > > > > X-Message: #3 > > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:28:04 -0400 > > From: "R. F. Clark" <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Subject: [PYLE] Places > > Content-Type: text/plain; > > charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > In reading various e-mails I came across several "place" names in Preston > > County, WV > > > > e.g. > > > > Preston Glades--Birds Creek--Wonderly Cemetery--Laurell Mountain--Fairax > > Pond > > > > Is there any one out there that could identify the exact(?) map locations > of > > the above? > > Also if available---where could I pick up such a map. > > > > Many thanks for your help. > > > > Richard > > > > ______________________________ > > ----615f14e4753d3689 > > > > X-Message: #4 > > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:07:47 -0500 > > From: Sara <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Subject: [PYLE] Places -Preston Co. WV > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > I have a DeLorme West Virginia Atlas & Gazetteer that I use to look up > > some places. I don't recall exactly where I got this but it should be > > available through bookstores...might have to special order one. > > DeLorme's address is P.O. Box 298, Yarmouth, Maine 04096. Their website > > is www.delorme.com > > > > Couldn't find a Preston Glades..did find Preston (a town) just south of > > Kingwood, on Hwy 72, on Cheat River. > > > > Bird's Creek runs roughly parallel to Hwy. 92 between C.R. 58 and > > C.R.92-6. At least that is the way it looks. That is kind of southwest > > of Kingwood. > > > > Fairfax Pond appears to be a little northeast of Bird's Creek. It is NW > > of Kingwood, situated eastwardly between Reedsville and Arthurdale. > > > > You can also look at sites on the net by going to: > > http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > > Wonderly Cemetery and also Laurel Mountain can probably be found at the > > url given just above. > > > > Hope this helps. > > Sara > > Melissa, Texas > > [email protected] > > > > > > "R. F. Clark" wrote: > > > > > > In reading various e-mails I came across several "place" names in > Preston > > County, WV > > > > > > e.g. > > > > > > Preston Glades--Birds Creek--Wonderly Cemetery--Laurell Mountain--Fairax > > Pond > > > > > > Is there any one out there that could identify the exact(?) map > locations > > of the above? > > > Also if available---where could I pick up such a map. > > > > > > > > > > ----615f14e4753d3689-- > > > > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > > List archives can be found at: > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > > > > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > > Support RootsWeb > > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > Have you posted recently? > Copyright 2000 > Author retains copyright

I am not sure if I thanked every one for their inputs on my request for information on various locations in WV. I did write and receive a map of Preston County and also have on loan thru the interlibrary program a copy of "West Virginia Place Names" by Hamill Kenny. Two great references. Many thanks again to all that responded to my request. Richard [email protected] Original Message ----- From: Air Pix Post Office <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 8:05 PM Subject: RE: [PYLE] Re: Places > Richard, > > Write to the Preston County Chamber of Commerce and they'll mail you a > Preston County map if you ask for it. Most of these are on it. I just got > back from there and I got one of the maps. Not many cemeteries on it > though. Bird's Creek is where my family is from and it's just North of > Newburg on WV 92. Bird's Creek Road runs from 92 over to Just south of > Kingwood. Only a few miles. > > I'm from Randolph County where Laurel Mountain is. It's just North of > Elkins off US 219. > > Charlie Pyles > Cold Spring, KY > > Visit the Air Pix Website at: > http://www.airpixphoto.com/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 8:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PYLE] Re: Places > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ----615f14e4753d3689 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Richard, > > In addition to the sources Sara suggested, you may want to try a book > entitled West Virginia > Place Names. I ran across it at the West Virginia state archives when I > made a trip there about > a year and a half ago. It's an older book, but it is absolutely wonderful. > Something that I found > that you should keep in mind when you look for these little places in WV is > that their names changed! > I was looking for a place called Ruby, WV. I contacted all kinds of people > and looked in all kinds of > atlases to no avail. When I went to the archives, I asked one of the > archivists if he had ever heard of > it. He had not, but he showed me the book. I looked in there, and, sure > enough, there it was. Ruby > was originally called Fraziers Bottom, and, for some unknown reason around > the time of the Hoover > administration, its name changed to Ruby. After some time, the name changed > back to Fraziers Bottom. > Very odd if you ask me! Anyway, I don't have the citation details of the > book with me right now, > but if you're interested I can get them at home and let you know. > > John Means > Columbus, OH > [email protected] > > > In reading various e-mails I came across several "place" names in Preston > County, WV > > e.g. > > Preston Glades--Birds Creek--Wonderly Cemetery--Laurell Mountain--Fairax > Pond > > Is there any one out there that could identify the exact(?) map locations > of the above? > Also if available---where could I pick up such a map. > > Many thanks for your help. > > Richard > > > ----615f14e4753d3689 > > X-Message: #2 > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:28:43 EDT > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PYLE] HELP! > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Eddie > > Sorry I can't help you. > > Shirley Pyle > > ______________________________ > ----615f14e4753d3689 > > X-Message: #3 > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:28:04 -0400 > From: "R. F. Clark" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: [PYLE] Places > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > > In reading various e-mails I came across several "place" names in Preston > County, WV > > e.g. > > Preston Glades--Birds Creek--Wonderly Cemetery--Laurell Mountain--Fairax > Pond > > Is there any one out there that could identify the exact(?) map locations of > the above? > Also if available---where could I pick up such a map. > > Many thanks for your help. > > Richard > > ______________________________ > ----615f14e4753d3689 > > X-Message: #4 > Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:07:47 -0500 > From: Sara <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Subject: [PYLE] Places -Preston Co. WV > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi Richard, > > I have a DeLorme West Virginia Atlas & Gazetteer that I use to look up > some places. I don't recall exactly where I got this but it should be > available through bookstores...might have to special order one. > DeLorme's address is P.O. Box 298, Yarmouth, Maine 04096. Their website > is www.delorme.com > > Couldn't find a Preston Glades..did find Preston (a town) just south of > Kingwood, on Hwy 72, on Cheat River. > > Bird's Creek runs roughly parallel to Hwy. 92 between C.R. 58 and > C.R.92-6. At least that is the way it looks. That is kind of southwest > of Kingwood. > > Fairfax Pond appears to be a little northeast of Bird's Creek. It is NW > of Kingwood, situated eastwardly between Reedsville and Arthurdale. > > You can also look at sites on the net by going to: > http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > Wonderly Cemetery and also Laurel Mountain can probably be found at the > url given just above. > > Hope this helps. > Sara > Melissa, Texas > [email protected] > > > "R. F. Clark" wrote: > > > > In reading various e-mails I came across several "place" names in Preston > County, WV > > > > e.g. > > > > Preston Glades--Birds Creek--Wonderly Cemetery--Laurell Mountain--Fairax > Pond > > > > Is there any one out there that could identify the exact(?) map locations > of the above? > > Also if available---where could I pick up such a map. > > > > > > ----615f14e4753d3689-- > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > List archives can be found at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > Support RootsWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright

Hello, I am looking for information about Piles families in the area Richmondale (Ross Co), Ohio. My ggrandparents were Jacob Piles *1824 - 1881) and Elizabeth Smith (1825 - 188?). They were married in Chillicothie on 30 April, 1849. There children were as follows: Nellie, Mary, Nicholas, Jacob, William, Ebanezer, Rochanna, and John. I am related through Mary. I have come to a complete dead end, and cannot trace Jacob back beyond 1850. Any additional information on this family would be greatly appreciated. Steve Giardini

Hello Judy, I noticed later last night that Fairfax PELL [53] and Mary [46] were enumerated in Preston Co in 1850 (Household #455), so I was having a problem with the 1829 birth date for Mary. Thank you for the clarification, and for providing this proof that Mary was the daughter of Hunter and Nancy. I think the proof was new to a lot of us. There is a lot of misinformation (speculation that has assumed the mantle of fact) on this particular branch of the family. Lots of problems with dates and names, in the PYLE Book (no offense to that treasure) and elsewhere. You've added a pretty solid piece of the puzzle. Jim Smee Pittsburgh PA

In a message dated 8/26/00 8:30:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << Do you happened to have the parents of John Pyle who married Sarah Allen February 24, 1816 or the parents of Joshus Pyle who married Nancy Allen March 27, 1823? Do you think these three, John, Joshus and William Pyle, were brothers? I have seen these records before, but It seems like I have gotten into a rut. I have a lot of information on my great great grandfather but I can not trace him back to his parents. >> George, I wish I could help, but can't. Per the 1830 census, where the three are near neighbors, we have that: Joshua was born either 1790-1800, or 1770-1780. If the former, he's probably a brother. If the later, he might be the father of the others. The older male (1770-1780) might be Joshua, or might be his father-in-law. John was born 1790-1800. (Sarah PYLE bought some land from John BELL in 1835 in Sumner County. I'm thinking this may have been John PYLE's widow, since John does not appear in the 1840 census.) William was born 1800-1810. (born 1805 NC per the 1850 census) This isn't a lot to go on, and I don't have any other clues for the moment. (But it is still a possibility that all of these folks are related to Isaac PILES from Orange Co NC. In 1800 (Orange CO NC), Isaac had two sons under 10 years. In 1820 (Smith Co TN), he had 5 sons under the age of 20 and 4 daughters under the age of 15, so the possibility exists.) Please keep me posted if you make any progress here. I've got ancestors who are lost in TN in this era as well. Jim Smee Pittsburgh PA

Thanks Jim, for your response. Do you happened to have the parents of John Pyle who married Sarah Allen February 24, 1816 or the parents of Joshus Pyle who married Nancy Allen March 27, 1823? Do you think these three, John, Joshus and William Pyle, were brothers? I have seen these records before, but It seems like I have gotten into a rut. I have a lot of information on my great great grandfather but I can not trace him back to his parents. George Pyle Christian County Kentucky

--part1_fb.a662c5a.26d9287d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit < In a message dated 8/25/00 10:33:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << had Mary PILES married to Fairfax PELL, but thought she was born much earlier. Did you mean to say that she was born in 1829? Jim and all, I was about to send a correction to the list. Mary was born in 1805. She was 76 years, 4 months and 10 days old when she died. She was married in 1829. I took my info off of a spreadsheet I had created and got off the Fairfax and Mary line and on to the line below. Is there census information to support that? I would have to assume she married Fairfax PELL before 1850, since she does not appear in (her mother) Nancy FORTNEY PILES' Preston Co. household in 1850. I have not worked the Pyles / Piles line very much and the only census I have checked in Preston Co. was for my FAIRFAX & PELL lines. I am just now starting on my additional lines. Does her 1881 death record actually state she is the daughter of Hunter and Nancy, or do you have other proof of that? Her death certificate states that her father was HUNTER PILES mother NANCY PILES. ( the certificate uses the PILES spelling yet her tombstone uses the PYLES spelling) My family records have always had it spelled PYLES. There is also a difference in her age and date of death on the tombstone. It has she died April of 1885 and that she was 81 years old. Till I have further info I am using the death certificate dates. Hope this isn't too many questions at once. I'd really just like to confirm the 1829 birth date. >> No problem, we all have to question each other so we question ourselves and double check our info. There is enough info out there that is not correct without our adding to it. If anyone has any further info on FAIRFAX & MARY PYLES/PILES PELL please share. Judy in Ohio but always a MOUNTAINEER WRIGHT, PELL, FAIRFAX, PHILLIPS, PYLES, PILES, MILLER, MITTER --part1_fb.a662c5a.26d9287d_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <[email protected]> From: [email protected] Full-name: ADP416 Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 10:01:55 EDT Subject: MARY PYLES, PILES To: [email protected] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 68 In a message dated 8/25/00 10:33:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << had Mary PILES married to Fairfax PELL, but thought she was born much earlier. Did you mean to say that she was born in 1829? Jim and all, I was about to send a correction to the list. Mary was born in 1805. She was 76 years, 4 months and 10 days old when she died. She was married in 1829. I took my info off of a spreadsheet I had created and got off the Fairfax and Mary line and on to the line below. Is there census information to support that? I would have to assume she married Fairfax PELL before 1850, since she does not appear in (her mother) Nancy FORTNEY PILES' Preston Co household in 1850. I have not worked the Pyles / Piles line very much and the only census I have checked in Preston Co was for my FAIRFAX & PELL lines. I am just now starting on my additionals lines. Does her 1881 death record actually state she is the daughter of Hunter and Nancy, or do you have other proof of that? Her death certificate states that her father was HUNTER PILES mother NANCY PILES. ( the certificate uses the PILES spelling yet her tombstone uses the PYLES spelling) My family records have always had it spelled PYLES. There is also a difference in her age and date of death on the tomestone. It has she died April of 1885 and that she was 81 years old. Till I have further info I am using the death certificate dates. Hope this isn't too many questions at once. I'd really just like to confirm the 1829 birth date. >> No problem, we all have to question each other so we question ourselves and double check our info. There is enough info out there that is not correct without our adding to it. If anyone has any further info on FAIRFAX & MARY PYLES/PILES PELL please share. Judy in Ohio but always a Mountaineer WRIGHT, PELL, FAIRFAX, --part1_fb.a662c5a.26d9287d_boundary--

My Piles were in Macon Co TN --Moses M. According to the James Piles NC will Isaac is the father of my Moses. And, yes, I think they ended up in Illinois because Moses married a Rebecca Hile in IL c1843 and then they end up in Macon Co TN for the 1850 census. Anyone know anything about Moses M. When my grandfather, William Lascassas Piles, was born Moses M. was gone, dead??? Rebecca is shown as head of household in KY 1860 census. Shirl Poiles (Piles) Schwartz -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:41 PM Subject: [PYLE] Sumner County TN PILES >One of the original heads of Sumner Co PILES families seems to have been >Isaac PILES, who appears in neighboring Smith CO TN for the 1820 census, and >in Sumner Co for the 1830 census. He was, I believe, the proven son Isaac >who appears in James PILES' 1820 Orange Co NC will. Isaac was born c1775, >which fits as a son of the Orange County NC James and as a father of some of >the Sumner County lines. > >Trouble is, I get the feeling there were at least a couple of lines that >crossed paths in Sumner County in this era. Some of them consistently used >PILES and others seem to have been pretty consistent in using PYLE (including >the three apparent PYLE siblings who married ALLEN girls and lived in pretty >close proximity in Sumner Co in 1830, your William included. > >I've wondered if the PILES with the given name Isaac (at least two) and those >with the given name Newton (several, including James Newton PILES who wound >up in Franklin Co IL by the 1840s) might be related, as in Isaac NEWTON. > >Jim Smee >Pittsburgh PA > > >==== PYLE Mailing List ==== >List archives can be found at: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright >

In a message dated 8/24/00 10:32:48 PM, [email protected] writes: << Since the record says Rector was an orphan, I'm assuming it is from 1852 or before. (If it were later, Rector would not be an orphan, but simply an adult whose parents had died). And since both parents must be dead (since he's an orphan), I think it is significant that only the mother is named. If his father were known, seems like he would have been mentioned in addition to, or instead of, the mother. >> In those days, a child was considered an orphan if his/her father was dead, even though the mother was still living. For instance, many organizations and schools were formed to provide for children who were "orphaned" by the Civil War -- the children were fatherless but not necessarily motherless. The will of Stephen Girard, financier, of Philadelphia, PA, established Girard College for orphan boys (the will was challenged a few decades ago to also include orphan girls) -- a requirement for admission was (and remains) that the child be fatherless (many still had mothers caring for them). Lani

George, Sumner County records say: 1816: John PYLE_ to Sarah ALLEN 24 FEB 1816, David H. WHIPPLE and David CROCKET as bondsmen; 1823: Joshua PYLE_ to Nancy ALLEN 27 MAR 1823, John PYLE as bondsman; 1825: William PILE_ to Margaret ALLEN 16 JUN 1825, "Jeshu" PILE as bondsman. ["Jeshu" is likely "Joshua", but be "Jehu" or "John" as well.] Then in the 1830 Sumner Co census, John PYLE, Joshua PYLE, William PYLE, and a William ALLEN (age 50 to 60 years) live within one census page of one another. John seems to be gone (dead) by 1835. Joshua I don't know about beyond 1830. And you have told me that your William wound up in Christian Co KY by 1850. Jim Smee Pittsburgh PA

One of the original heads of Sumner Co PILES families seems to have been Isaac PILES, who appears in neighboring Smith CO TN for the 1820 census, and in Sumner Co for the 1830 census. He was, I believe, the proven son Isaac who appears in James PILES' 1820 Orange Co NC will. Isaac was born c1775, which fits as a son of the Orange County NC James and as a father of some of the Sumner County lines. Trouble is, I get the feeling there were at least a couple of lines that crossed paths in Sumner County in this era. Some of them consistently used PILES and others seem to have been pretty consistent in using PYLE (including the three apparent PYLE siblings who married ALLEN girls and lived in pretty close proximity in Sumner Co in 1830, your William included. I've wondered if the PILES with the given name Isaac (at least two) and those with the given name Newton (several, including James Newton PILES who wound up in Franklin Co IL by the 1840s) might be related, as in Isaac NEWTON. Jim Smee Pittsburgh PA

In a message dated 8/25/00 9:41:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << I wanted to jump in on the MARY PYLES / PILES info as she is my 2X Great-grandmother. She was born 12 August 1829. Died 22 December 1881 of old age. Her parents were HUNTER PILES / PYLES & NANCY FORTNEY. Her death certificate is found in book 1858-1920 page 4 line 2. I have a copy if anyone would have need for it. She was married to FAIRFAX PELL and they had 6 children. >> Judy, This is news. I had Mary PILES married to Fairfax PELL, but thought she was born much earlier. Did you mean to say that she was born in 1829? Is there census information to support that? I would have to assume she married Fairfax PELL before 1850, since she does not appear in (her mother) Nancy FORTNEY PILES' Preston Co household in 1850. Does her 1881 death record actually state she is the daughter of Hunter and Nancy, or do you have other proof of that? Hope this isn't too many questions at once. I'd really just like to confirm the 1829 birth date. Thanks. Jim Smee Pittsburgh PA

Was either of the ALLEN girls in Sumner County Tennessee, that married the three Pyle siblings, named Margaret Allen? George Subject: [PYLE] Sumner County TN PILES >One of the original heads of Sumner Co PILES families seems to have been >Isaac PILES, who appears in neighboring Smith CO TN for the 1820 census, and >in Sumner Co for the 1830 census. He was, I believe, the proven son Isaac >who appears in James PILES' 1820 Orange Co NC will. Isaac was born c1775, >which fits as a son of the Orange County NC James and as a father of some of >the Sumner County lines. > >Trouble is, I get the feeling there were at least a couple of lines that >crossed paths in Sumner County in this era. Some of them consistently used >PILES and others seem to have been pretty consistent in using PYLE (including >the three apparent PYLE siblings who married ALLEN girls and lived in pretty >close proximity in Sumner Co in 1830, your William included. > >I've wondered if the PILES with the given name Isaac (at least two) and those >with the given name Newton (several, including James Newton PILES who wound >up in Franklin Co IL by the 1840s) might be related, as in Isaac NEWTON. > >Jim Smee >Pittsburgh PA > > >==== PYLE Mailing List ==== >List archives can be found at: >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > >

Hi, All, In my research I have found a George M. Pyle in the 1870 Henry Co. Missouri Census. Does anyone out there have information on this man, or can do a census lookup for me? I am researching the Pyle/Pyles/Piles family in Henry Co. Mo. My GGGrandmother was Connie Jane Pyle/Pyles who was born in 1844, possibly in Oklahoma, and raised in Bates Co.and Henry Co. Missouri, she married William Bradford in Henry Co. in the 1860's. (She was also of Cherokee descent. I have some records that say that her father's name was William Pyle from North Carolina and her mother's name was Mary Elizabeth__________.) Any help appreciated! Sandra

Ron, I think I have explained that before. The time period is all wrong for that to be possible. On Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:04:31 -0700 "Ron Pyle" <[email protected]> writes: > Patrick; > > why isn't George Turner Pyle the adopted son of Robert > Pyle that married the widow of George Turner? I've been > considering this for a long time, but no one knows the > answer, they just say he isn't. > > Ron Pyle > Angels Camp, Ca. > "Home of the Jumping Frog of Calaveras County." > > ---------- > : From: PATRICK H MURRAY <[email protected]> > : To: [email protected] > : Subject: Fw: [PYLE] Re: George Turner Pyle > : Date: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:28 AM > : > : Time I send this email again in hopes someone new has > not seen this > : before. > : Patrick H. Murray > : " THE SEARCH GOES ON " > : > : --------- Forwarded message ---------- > : From: PATRICK H MURRAY <[email protected]> > : To: [email protected] > : Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 15:50:35 -0500 > : Subject: [PYLE] Re: George Turner Pyle > : George Turner Pyle was my ancestor, son of George Pyle > of Henrico Co. > : VA. George Turner Pyle was b. 19 Jan 1800 Henrico Co > VA. His father > : George Pyle was born ca 1766, place unknown. He first > appears in Henrico > : Co. on tax list 1787. He married 18 Apr 1794 Henrico Co. > VA Elizabeth > : Cocke, dau of Pleasant and Elizabeth Fowler Cocke. I have > been seeking > : George Pyle's (b. ca 1766) parents for some years now. > I did find a > : birth record that seems to fit with my George Pyle. " > George Pyle b. 19 > : Dec 1767 Sherifield, Upon Laddon, Hampshire, England, son > of Robert Pyle > : and Elizabeth______. " He had a sister Ann Marie b. 30 > Aug 1765, same > : place. It is possible this George Pyle did migrate to > the VA ?. > : Patrick H. Murray > : " THE SEARCH GOES ON " > : > ____________________________________________________________ > _______ Get > : the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, > free e-mail, and > : free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: > : http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ==== PYLE Mailing > List ==== Visit > : the PYLE page at > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sara/pyle/ 1999 Copyright > : > : > : > : ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > : List archives can be found at: > : http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > : Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > : > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > All genealogy discussion lists can be found at: > http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > > Patrick H. Murray " THE SEARCH GOES ON "

Time I send this email again in hopes someone new has not seen this before. Patrick H. Murray " THE SEARCH GOES ON " --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: PATRICK H MURRAY <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 15:50:35 -0500 Subject: [PYLE] Re: George Turner Pyle George Turner Pyle was my ancestor, son of George Pyle of Henrico Co. VA. George Turner Pyle was b. 19 Jan 1800 Henrico Co VA. His father George Pyle was born ca 1766, place unknown. He first appears in Henrico Co. on tax list 1787. He married 18 Apr 1794 Henrico Co. VA Elizabeth Cocke, dau of Pleasant and Elizabeth Fowler Cocke. I have been seeking George Pyle's (b. ca 1766) parents for some years now. I did find a birth record that seems to fit with my George Pyle. " George Pyle b. 19 Dec 1767 Sherifield, Upon Laddon, Hampshire, England, son of Robert Pyle and Elizabeth______. " He had a sister Ann Marie b. 30 Aug 1765, same place. It is possible this George Pyle did migrate to the VA ?. Patrick H. Murray " THE SEARCH GOES ON " ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== Visit the PYLE page at http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~sara/pyle/ 1999 Copyright