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    1. Re: [PYLE] the great Ernie Pyle
    2. Billie Standley
    3. He was A world war 11 news correspondant.He followed the troops and lost his life on the battlefield. Cordially, Billie

    08/30/2000 10:14:36
    1. [PYLE] Pyle Book
    2. John Tyler
    3. Dear Friends, Can anyone tell me how to get a copy of the Pyle Book? Thank you. John Tyler __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/

    08/30/2000 09:03:35
    1. RE: [PYLE] Posting Data to the Internet
    2. Pyle, Joe
    3. Sharing is not the issue. -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Schwartz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PYLE] Posting Data to the Internet Ditto!! Shirl -----Original Message----- From: Billie Standley <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [PYLE] Posting Data to the Internet Evidently all pyle families are not like this or there would be no pyle families looking for ancestors. I , for one would would not want to know someone in my line that wouldn't want to share genealogy.Most of the pyles I know are willing to share. Unless someone copies the great writings of Ernie Pyle I think it's absurd to think that you could be sued for copying Aunt Flossie's Florida Family Cordially, Billie ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== All genealogy discussion lists can be found at: http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== All genealogy discussion lists can be found at: http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright

    08/30/2000 07:09:57
    1. Re: [PYLE] Posting Data to the Internet
    2. Billie Standley
    3. Gwen, Like I said I think you are right. We need to double check all info we get from others and they likewise should check mine. Iwas looking for a first name that should have been Freeman and I typed Goodman.I caught that onebut wonder how many I didn't. Still searching for ancesters of Tony Lee Pyle. Barwick Ga, last place of residence before death in 1968. Cordially, Billie

    08/30/2000 06:20:46
    1. Re: [PYLE] Posting Data to the Internet
    2. Billie Standley
    3. You are so right. I've found that check and double check is an on-going part of it. Cordially, Billie

    08/30/2000 05:50:28
    1. Re: [PYLE] Posting Data to the Internet
    2. Gwen Wood
    3. > Concerning posting family trees to the internet: I would gladly post my family tree on the internet for the rest of the Pyle families to see but until I'm 100% sure my information is correct I'm reluctant to do so. By the time someone is ready to do that, I would hope they feel their information is correct and can back it up with sources. It's easy to fall into the trap of coping information from someone else 'assuming' they are right just because they are willing to share openly via the net. Just putting my two cents in on this subject. Gwen > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > Keep up activity,post queries/ replies to the list. > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright

    08/30/2000 05:32:15
    1. Re: [PYLE] Posting Data to the Internet
    2. These people who don't want to post genealogical information to the list are obliviously not interested in genealogy but rather concerned over the commerical value of their information that the rest of us are willing to disperse freely. Its a pity. Frank Pyle

    08/30/2000 04:40:49
    1. Re: [PYLE] Posting Data to the Internet
    2. Shirley Schwartz
    3. Ditto!! Shirl -----Original Message----- From: Billie Standley <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:57 AM Subject: Re: [PYLE] Posting Data to the Internet Evidently all pyle families are not like this or there would be no pyle families looking for ancestors. I , for one would would not want to know someone in my line that wouldn't want to share genealogy.Most of the pyles I know are willing to share. Unless someone copies the great writings of Ernie Pyle I think it's absurd to think that you could be sued for copying Aunt Flossie's Florida Family Cordially, Billie ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== All genealogy discussion lists can be found at: http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright

    08/30/2000 03:23:47
    1. Re: [PYLE] TO POST OR NOT TO POST--THAT IS MY QUESTION
    2. Larry Roy
    3. Sandy I would post my line, you don't know what you could find. I posted my line here about 3 - 4 months ago and got an e-mail the next morning that discovered that our grandmothers were half sister. They knew my family visited my grandmother and grandfather and we're arranging to meet and she's going to show me the house that my g grandparents lived in. Betsy -----Original Message----- From: Patterson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:27 PM Subject: [PYLE] TO POST OR NOT TO POST--THAT IS MY QUESTION >Okay, Here's my question. Should I post my family genealogy on the >Internet? Why? I can't decide what to do. Please help. Sandy > > > > >==== PYLE Mailing List ==== >Have a question or complaint? Contact Sara at >[email protected] >Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > >

    08/30/2000 01:54:19
    1. Re: [PYLE] Posting Data to the Internet
    2. Billie Standley
    3. Evidently all pyle families are not like this or there would be no pyle families looking for ancestors. I , for one would would not want to know someone in my line that wouldn't want to share genealogy.Most of the pyles I know are willing to share. Unless someone copies the great writings of Ernie Pyle I think it's absurd to think that you could be sued for copying Aunt Flossie's Florida Family Cordially, Billie

    08/30/2000 01:53:35
    1. [PYLE] Posting Data to the Internet
    2. Charles Darby
    3. I am one of those who opposes posting data to the Internet. I have had this happen in both the Pyle and the Darby families that I represent. For information of all on PYLE-L, this is a copy of an e-mail I received tonight from one of my relatives: "(c) 1996 by John Robertson; all rights reserved. All material provided is copyrighted to the public domain for noncommercial, nonprofit use only. Commercial use of this information is strictly prohibited without prior permission of the/all author(s). If copied, this copyright notice must appear with the information." This is an example of the type of copyright notices that are attached to more and more genealogical data. Permission to use an individual's data must be in a letter and not via e-mail. E-mail permission is not worth the paper it is printed on. One relative was going to use my data whether I liked it or not since I had "given" him permission to use in an e-mail. His lawyer supported me. Information on copyrights on the Internet support me. >From http://mids.org/sinclair/archive/msg00813.html one can read what Amber Dalakas says:"Disguised as the nicest people on earth, many genealogists are nevertheless thieves, plagiarists, and copyright infringers. ...Some try to hide their crimes under mantles of excuses such as: "o I thought everything on the Internet was FREE. "o I'm just looking up information for FREE. I don't charge people anything. "o You can't copyright facts and that's what genealogy is. "o Genealogy was meant to be shared." "o This is information about my family and I'm entitled to it. "o Reproduction of copyrighted materials was intended to keep people from distributing information for profit. "o Authors are too greedy and should be grateful they are getting free advertising on the Web." Brad Templeton http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html lists 10 big myths concerning copyrights. They are: "1) If it doesn't have a copyright notice, it's not copyrighted." I got into a big mess by using someone's data without permission, because I thought this to be true. FALSE! "2) If I don't charge for it, is not a violation. "3) If it's posted to Usenet it's in the public domain. "4) My posting was just fair use! "5) If you don't defend your copyright you lose it. "6) If I make up my own stories, but base them on another work, my new work belongs to me. "7) They can't get me, defendants in court have powerful rights. "8) Oh, so copyright violation isn't a crime or anything? "9) It doesn't hurt anybody---in fact it's free advertising. "10) They e-mailed me a copy, so I can post it." I would recommend that every individual thinking of using anyone else's data, read this material. To use another individuals data does not mean you are automatically in trouble; especially if it is not registered. According to Templeton, unregistered material gets very little protection from the courts. But my reading has convinced me that unregistered data is still protected by copyright law. Thus, I believe one should never use another's data for commercial purposes unless you have a letter (received in the US Mail), dated and properly signed, that you have permission of the compiler of the data in your document. Also, I do not believe that an individual has the right to post anyone's data to a public forum without their written permission. I am not a lawyer, so take what I have said with caution. I have had contact with lawyers over this subject and have had legal problems. I believe what I have said from the cited sources validates the impropriety of posting the work of others to the Internet. I believe that submitting such data to a commercial company is also a violation of copyright law and could get you in serious trouble. Charles Darby

    08/29/2000 07:02:52
    1. Re: [PYLE] TO POST OR NOT TO POST--THAT IS MY QUESTION
    2. Sandy, Why are you on the internet? Is it to find information and make a connection? If so, and you post your genealogy, someone might see it and make a onnection. But it's up to you. Frank Pyle

    08/29/2000 03:51:47
    1. RE: [PYLE] TO POST OR NOT TO POST--THAT IS MY QUESTION
    2. Pyle, Joe
    3. I wouldn't. -----Original Message----- From: Patterson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 8:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PYLE] TO POST OR NOT TO POST--THAT IS MY QUESTION Okay, Here's my question. Should I post my family genealogy on the Internet? Why? I can't decide what to do. Please help. Sandy ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== Have a question or complaint? Contact Sara at [email protected] Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright

    08/29/2000 02:36:07
    1. [PYLE] Pyle Obit
    2. Pyle, Joe
    3. Does anyone know how this person ties into the Pyle family? Houma Courier Terrebonne Parish, LA 14 Feb 2000 Helen Irene Jones. Helen Irene Jones, 65, a native of Kilgore, TX, and resident of Patterson, died at 8 a. m. Sunday, 13 Feb 2000. A private memorial service will be held today. She is survived by her husband, Robert Sayers; two sons, Robert and Brian Sayers; one daughter, Karen Richard; two brothers, Michael and Eugene Pyle; one sister, Josephine Pyle; and eight grandchildren. She was preceded in death by her husband, Floyd Jones; two parents, Alvin Hall and Mary Griffith Pyle; her stepfather, Quentin Pyle; two sons, Stephen and Stanley Dee Sayers; and one brother, Gilbert Pyle.

    08/29/2000 02:00:48
    1. Re: [PYLE] TO POST OR NOT TO POST--THAT IS MY QUESTION
    2. Patterson
    3. Why? Why? Why?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pyle, Joe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 7:36 PM Subject: RE: [PYLE] TO POST OR NOT TO POST--THAT IS MY QUESTION > I wouldn't. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Patterson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 8:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PYLE] TO POST OR NOT TO POST--THAT IS MY QUESTION > > > Okay, Here's my question. Should I post my family genealogy on the > Internet? Why? I can't decide what to do. Please help. Sandy > > > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > Have a question or complaint? Contact Sara at > [email protected] > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > Have you posted recently? > Copyright 2000 > Author retains copyright >

    08/29/2000 01:53:04
    1. [PYLE] Re:(PYLE) Kentucky Pyle's
    2. george pyle
    3. Veva, do you have the children of Jehu Pyle b. August 1766 ? Do you know who he married or any other info. about him? I don't know if this is my great great grandfather's father or not. My gg grandfather William Pyle was born in 1805 and presumably in North Carolina. I sure would like to have a match here, if you have the information above I would very much appreciate it! Thanks, George

    08/29/2000 01:50:28
    1. [PYLE] TO POST OR NOT TO POST--THAT IS MY QUESTION
    2. Patterson
    3. Okay, Here's my question. Should I post my family genealogy on the Internet? Why? I can't decide what to do. Please help. Sandy

    08/29/2000 01:32:45
    1. [PYLE] Richard Pyle b. abt 1825 England
    2. Hi I'm looking for info on this family that came over from England in the 1850's. Here's what I have. Richard PYLE b. abt 1825 Eng m. Sarah Jane COLLINGWOOD in Eng. Children Richard Jr Eng Jonathon Eng George Eng John Eng Robert Ill m. Elizabeth CRONAN William Ill Sarah Jane Ill m. Frank WHIFFEN Joseph Ill m. Della Mary E Ill m.John STABLER I have children of Robert, Sarah Jane & Joseph. Also have birthdates of above from census. If you can connect or have any info would love to share Thanks. Carol in Calif

    08/28/2000 08:33:03
    1. Re: [PYLE] English PILEs please.
    2. Hi Patricia My Richard PYLE came over from England in the 1850's with his wife Sarah COLLINGWOOD. A few of his children were born in Eng. and the rest in Ill. I've been trying to figure where to start in Eng. to look for them. Could you give me some ideas? Since their daughter married my ggrandfather WHIFFEN I need to do my research in England and I would love your help and advice. Thanks, Carl in Calif

    08/28/2000 08:01:18
    1. Re: [PYLE] MARY PYLES Tombstone Inscription
    2. In a message dated 8/27/00 10:48:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: << In what way does the name PYLES (this spelling) appear on Mary's tombstone? I guess what I'm asking is for an exact transcription of the inscription, for example, is she Mary PYLES, wife of Fairfax PELL or something like that? And just for completeness, is hers a Preston Co WV death certificate? >> Jim, It is a Certificate of Death from the State of West Virginia, the County of Preston. As to the inscription on the stone. The stone is for both Fairfax Pell and Mary Pyles. I will send you privately a copy of the photo I took this past July. It is very clear. Judy in Ohio but always a MOUNTAINEER WRIGHT, PELL, FAIRFAX, PHILLIPS, PYLES, PILES, MILLER, MITTER

    08/28/2000 03:27:20