my dear girl, where did you hear that? I've never heard anything about it before. your auntie

I would like to share he following names and data, in order that I might find new leads to my family history and meet new relatives. David Monroe Pyle, born May 26, 1829 in Sumner Co. Tennessee. Died October 6, 1887 in Christian Co. Kentucky Parents: William Pyle and Margaret Allen Married: January 16, 1851 Spouse: Sarah Ann Boyd, born September 7, 1826; died December 4, 1881. Children (8) 1/James Henry Pyle, born 1854 Spouse: Amelia Ann White 2/William Francis Pyle, born 1856; died 1918 in Christian Co. KY Married: 1878 Spouse: Serea Jane Boyd 3/Bettie Allen Pyle, born 1857 4/John Harmon Pyle, born June 1, 1859 in Christian Co. KY Died: November 12, 1921 in Christian Co. KY Married: December 28, 1884 Spouses: Mary Elizabeth Boyd; Sarah Alice Jones 5/George Ann Pyle, born 1859; died 1920. Married: 1874 Spouse: George H. Boyd 6/Jessie Ford Pyle, born 1860; died 1903. Spouse: Melissa McCord 7/Joseph Fountain Pyle, born 1862; died 1938. Spouse: Mary Elizabeth "Bettie" White 8/Mary Belle Pyle, born 1863 Spouse: Edman Long I am a descendant of John Harmon Pyle, but I am interested on any information anyone has on any of the family members above. I will appreciate any lead no matter how small! Can any one help me? Sincerely, George [email protected]

-Okay, this feels like math class. Everyone gets "it" but me. Is Coonrad/ Conrad related to this line? Is he Alford's Dad? Does anyone have this family? Descendants of Alford Pyles 1 Alford Pyles b: Abt. 1823 in Illinois . +Francis W. Jones m: May 21, 1840 in Adams/Brown Co., IL ..... 2 Hettie A. Pyles b: December 18, 1845 ..... 2 Daniel Boone Pyles b: Abt. 1847 d: in Arkansas ......... +Sarah Francisea Burgess b: Abt. 1842 in Louisville, Kentucky m: October 22, 1868 in Christian Co., Kentucky ..... 2 Len Pyles b: Abt. 1849 ..... 2 Harrison Pyles b: Abt. 1851 ..... 2 James Pyles b: Abt. 1853 Any leads off any of these families would be nice ... I am from Daniel Pyles and Sarah (Fanny) Burgess, but would like to find out about the siblings if possible.... I have pictures of all the sons, not of Hettie however if anyone is interested. Father Alford is the farthest back I have been able to go .... bob [email protected] ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== Not sure how to sub/unsub? Contact Sara at [email protected] 1999 Copyright

To everyone: Thanks for the info on Coonrod I really appreciate it. I would be so glad if I could find the parents of Coonrod. Where can you get the Pyle book? Thanks again, I am always interested in any info on this family. ~Helen~ Owensboro, Kentucky [email protected]

Nothing about Conrad's parents-- the best educated opinion I have heard (from Tom Pyle) is that Conrad (Conrad, Konradt, Conradt, Conradus) Piel (Peihl, Pfeil, Peil, Pile, Poile, Poyle, et al) was German and fought with the British as did other Hessians or German mercenaries. A Conrad Piel is listed as a Hessian prisoner in NY in 1782 (MUSTER ROLLS AND PRISONER-OF-WAR LISTS BY CLIFFORD SMITH, and thought to be a drummer because of his age (and a notation). He is also shown in Family Treemakers “Passenger Lists between 1538 and 1940.” (Tom Pyle's research). Americans did everything, including offering land to get them to desert the English. Prevailing wisdom for the losers was to become English (Poyle?) and blend in and go along with the winners. Part of the reason for coming over here was to stay for a better lot in life. Conrad could have moved down to North Carolina with his family (Brothers Richard and Peter?), and finally to Tennessee where things get much clearer. -----Original Message----- From: Helen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 2:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [PYLE] Re: Coonrod Pyle Stephen Do you have any info or assumptions as to Coonrod's parents? ~Helen~ Owensboro, Kentucky [email protected] ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, write [email protected] with just the word unsubscribe in the message area. Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright

Jim, I have put J J Poill's death certificate and marriage certificates on my website at http://www.thorntongale.org/Genealogy/J_J_Poill/J_J_Poill.htm. His death certificate says he was 102 years old at the time of death. I've never believed this since it doesn't track with the earlier ages he gave in the census. The photo is from many years before his death. The first census J. J. Poill shows up in is the 1880 census where he stated he was 42 years old (i.e., born 1837-8). His age in the 1900 census is 67 years old (born in 1832-3). His age in the 1905 military census was 77 years old (born 1827-8). His age in the 1910 census is 83 years old (born 1826-7) and in the 1920 census he was 93 years old (born 1826-7) I'm really glad you (especially) are interested in this case - I have admired your posts greatly especially those concerning Nicholaus Pyle and Mary Ann Westbrook. Best regards, Thornton Gale Thornton, Have you found a 1928 State of Oregon death certificate for Jackson POILE, and if so, how old does it say he was? And who were his parents in that record? I'm a little suspicious of a 97 year old who looks like a 67 year old. And I'm a little suspicious regarding the claim that Jackson was born in 1827 (age 97 in 1924), the third of four children, when his parents(?) were married in 1831. Fascinating story. Still thinking. Jim Smee

Doris, Actually I think "Uncle John" is really John Westbrook who I think (but haven't proven) is the brother of Mary Ann Westbrook. It is a John Westbrook who is the witness to the infamous transfer of property that Nicholas made to his son Everett - see http://www.thorntongale.org/Genealogy/Nicholas_Pyle/Nicholas_Pyle_Aug_ 21_1832.htm My interpretation of this facinating document is that it is sort of a traveling "trousseau" rather than the contemporary interpretation that it was an attempt on the part of Nicholas Pyle to hide his assets from his creditors - I never bought that one anyway because I don't think such a maneuveur would fly in the court system of the day and especially with the hardened frontier people. It seems that the items are those needed for John Westbrook to take Everett Pyle on a journey. Hope this helps. Thornton Gale Mr Thornton: You indicated that your JJ Poile was son of Nicholas Pyle and Mary Westbrook...I won't argue with you there (but would like more proof), but the "Uncle John" referred to in the story was certainly not John Pyle, 1796-1869, who was a brother to this Nicholas and was my gg grandfather. He was in Montgomery County, Texas by the mid 1830's - 1835 to be exact and he is too well documented to have been the "rover and adventurer" described. He was never in Ill, Ark or Tenn. And there's no evidence that a nephew, Jonathon Jackson Poiles came to Texas with him. He did, however, have a SON, Jonathon Jackson Pyle, born 1836 (my great grandfather) who married Amanda McLennon in Conroe, Montgomery Co., Tex. in 1856 and never ventured any further than moving to Kaufman County about 1859 and lived there until he died in 1920. I just wanted to clear this up on the list as there are many of this branch of the family who are online here and know of the well documented history behind our family. I personally think you have the wrong man. Doris in west Texas

Folks: I was extremely excited to see the recent round of messages concerning Coonrod Poiles (Pyle). My G-Grandfather was Jonathan Jackson Poill. I have been trying to find his ancestry for 10 years now. I have a fairly good case for him being the child of Mary Ann Westbrook and Nicholas Pyle. Since my G-Grandfather couldn't read or write I always thought he may not have been able to spell Pyle correctly and since he was from the South would pronounce his name to officials such as census takers, etc. and one of them spelled it phonetically as "Poill" which became his offical name. But now I have this wonderful new information that some Pyles spelled their name's as Poile, Poiles, or Poyle. I have put together my evidence at my website http://www.thorntongale.org/Genealogy/J_J_Poill/J_J_Poill.htm. This is a work in progress and I have incorporated the great information from Carolyn Fulmer and Jim Smee. I would be very interested in any information anyone has to offer. Thornton Gale

Shirl Could I have a copy of the info concerning Coonrod being born in Germany? Thanks ~Helen~ Owensboro, Kentucky [email protected]

Sue I don't know anything beyond Coonrod, wish I did. ~Helen~ Owensboro, Kentucky [email protected]

Stephen Do you have any info or assumptions as to Coonrod's parents? ~Helen~ Owensboro, Kentucky [email protected]

Wilt, I also found a message from April 1999 from Linda at [email protected] that says she has more info on Job Pyle b. 6-4-1789. She got info from Larry Harlan whose reference is History and Genealogy of the Harlan Family by Alpheus Harlan published in 1914. Frank Pyle

Wilt Pyle, I have a report that shows as Endnotes , Broderbund Software, Inc. Wold Family Tree Vol. 10, Ed. 1 Tree #3298 It is titled Descendants of John Pyle. That is the only identification I can find. It shows Generation No. 7 as Job Pyle married Elizabeth Mulberry daughter of Peter Mulberry and Elizabeth ??? Child of Job & Elizabeth John Y. Pyle b. 1836 d. 1910 Married Sarah Eva Bolton b. 1836 d. 1916 Married (2) Mary Ellen Reid daughter of JohnReid and Rebecca Smith. John Y. Pyle buried Friends Cemetery, Drumore, Pa. Child of John Y. & Mary Reid Job Wilton Pyle B. 1861 d. 1953 Married Virena Jane Hensen daughter of William Hensen. She was b. 29 Aug 1864 d. 1918. Married (2) ( Lizzie) Elizabeth ??? It goes on to show their children and their Chidrens, Children. If you would like I could make a copy of it and mail it to you. Frank Pyle

Conrod or Coonrod Pile, b. 3-16-1766 prob. in N.Car. d. 10-14-1849 in Fentress Co., Tenn. bur. Wolf River Cem. m. Mary ____, b. 4-13-1769 in N.Car. d. 6-18-1834 Bur. Wolf River Issue: i. Jacob Pile, b. 4-16-1785 m. Evangeline C. Williams ii. Daniel Pile, b. ca 1787 d. 1865 iii. Delila Pile, m. Roger Crockett (documented) iv. Elizabeth Pile m. Henry Helms v. Elijah Pile, b. 11-11-1795 prob in NC m. 3-21-1814 to Rebecca Earp vi. John Pile, b. ca 1802 in Tenn., m. Nancy___ b. ca 1807 in KY vii. Jehu Pile, Sr. viii. William "Grady" Pile, b. 3-12-1810 in Fentress Co. m. (1) Narcissus Sabien (2) Mary Williams The Pyle Book has an intersting article on him. It quotes some of the book "Sergeant York and His People" by Sam K. Cowan. It tells of Fentress County becoming a 'no man's land' during the Civil War subjected to marauding bands from the North and from the South, a land for plunder and revenge. The county was on the military border between the free and slaveholding states. Coonrod had been a slaveholder, but very few of the mountianeers were slave owners. Those with sympathies for the south went with those forces and those with northern syumpathies went with the northern forces. The men who remained home were compelled by public sentiment to take sides. The raiding of passing soldiers was the excuse for organized raids on both sides. Two of Conrad Pile's grandsons were killed during this period, Conrod Jr. or Rod as he was called and Jeff, both sons of Elijah. Rod sympathized with the north and Jeff with the south. Sgt. Alvin York of WW II fame came from Elijah's line through daughter Nancy who married William Brooks and their daughter Mary Elizabeth who married William York. One reason this part of Coonrod's history interested me is that my husband's grandfather, Pleasant Howard, lived in Fentress County during this time period and served in the CSA and was killed by one of the "passing bands of mauraders" only a few days after he had returned home from his service. During my research on my husband's Howard, Wright and Price families there I have seen Coonrod's name spelled POILES and I had dismissed it as a typo. Doris

Regarding name Bob Beckman... My line comes down thru John Pyle(1594) to Nicholas,to Robert, to John,to Jacob, to Levi, to Job & his daughter Lydia(B-feb 5, 1800 M to Joseph Welsh) who had daughter Dorcas who married Amos Atherton,my ggrandfather. Bob Beckman,[email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilt Pyle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 6:08 AM Subject: Re: [PYLE] Greetings > Sandy, > Sorry, sure don't. > > Bob Beckman > Again that name is not in my list > > > Wilt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patterson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 6:55 PM > Subject: Re: [PYLE] Greetings > > > > Do you by chance have a Simond or Simone Pyle b mid 1800, on your list? > > Can't seem to connect in NJ anywhere, so thought they may come from PA. > > Thanks, Sandy > > Monmouth Co., NJ Surnames: TILTON & HARRIS, PYLE & MORAN > > Mercer Co., KY Surnames: PATTERSON & BUNTON, LAWSON & McGINNIS > > > > "Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. > > Imagination > > encircles the world." > > ----- Albert Einstein, 1879-1955 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Wilt Pyle" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 3:13 PM > > Subject: [PYLE] Greetings > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > Wilton Job Pyle III here. Thought I'd check in. Have been here for quite > > > some time but haven't written before. > > > I'm from the line of Chester County, PA Pyles. Say that 3 times. > > > Any family out there? > > > > > > Wilt > > > > > > > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > > > Not sure how to sub/unsub? Contact Sara at > > > [email protected] > > > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > > All genealogy discussion lists can be found at: > > http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html > > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright > > > > > > > ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== > List archives can be found at: > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright >

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Helen and others Give me a couple of days to organize my files, and I will post to the list. I am working on my Easton genealogy this weekend. Did you all know that there is a Pyles Reunion the second Sunday in September at the John Adair School in Columbia, Kentucky. This reunion is in honor of the late J. B. Pyles, a descendant of Coonrod Pyles, the famous long hunter. This is posted in the September edition of Kentucky Explorer. For information contact Aaron Pylkes, 108 Southside Avenue, Campbellsville, KY 42718 or call 502-465-7469. I hope it is OK to have posted this at this website. Thought those of you related to this line might want to attend. Becky Hall -----Original Message----- From: Helen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, September 01, 2000 12:30 PM Subject: [PYLE] Re: Jehu Pyle Becky I was replying to someone on the list who was descended from Jehu. He is a brother to my line. Yes, I would like the info you have on his family. You can e-mail me privately if you wish. ~Helen~ Owensboro, Kentucky [email protected] ==== PYLE Mailing List ==== All genealogy discussion lists can be found at: http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html Copyright 2000-Author retains copyright

Frank--On pgs. 200/201 of the Pyle book you sent me it is interesting to note that Thomas Piles b.1787 had at least nine children with last (Kelso) b.1858 or when Thomas was 71 years of age. Richard

I have seen information that strongly suggests "Coonrod Pile" was in fact Conrad Pfeil. Other evidence suggests that the first "Coonrod" hailed from the same village in Hesse as Daniel Pfeil (Pile) and that the Pile families of Fentress and Sullivan counties are kin. Charles Pyle Richmond, VA