PSRoots-D Digest Volume 03 : Issue 114 Today's Topics: #1 [PSRoots] Google search tutorial [bookstorelady <bookstorelady@prodi] #2 Re: [PSRoots] Google search tutori ["Diane K. Hettrick" <dhettrick@ear] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from PSRoots-D, send an e-mail message to: PSRoots-D-request@rootsweb.com In the body include only one word: unsubscribe Turn off your signature file when sending in this command. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe. When replying to a message in a digest, please remember to change the subject line by repeating the text shown in the subject line from the original message. (Example- RE: Original subject line stuff here) Web pages of interest: PSRoots Mailing List <a target=_blank href="http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/psroots.htm">http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/psroots.htm</a> Puget Sound Genealogy Resources <a target=_blank href="http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/pugetres.htm">http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/pugetres.htm</a> ______________________________ ----- Hello Gang I just found the site!!! on another list. The site tells how to use Google for genealogy searches and those of you with common type names are going to love it <a target=_blank href="http://genealogy.about.com/library/print/n052902a.htm">http://genealogy.about.com/library/print/n052902a.htm</a> ===== bookstorelady@prodigy.net <a target=_blank href="http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskagit">http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskagit</a> - Skagit USGW <a target=_blank href="http://www.thirdstbooks.com">http://www.thirdstbooks.com</a> - 3rd St. Book Exchange <a target=_blank href="http://www.facesfromthewall.com">http://www.facesfromthewall.com</a> - Faces From the Wall - Vietnam/Washington ______________________________ ----- You aren't just a-woofin'! I've been wanting this for years - surnames KINDLE and HUNTER for a start bring up so much noise it makes me crazy. Thank you Darilee! Diane Hettrick dhettrick@earthlink.net bookstorelady wrote: > > Hello Gang > > I just found the site!!! on another list. The > site tells how to use Google for genealogy searches > and those of you with common type names are going to > love it > > <a target=_blank href="http://genealogy.about.com/library/print/n052902a.htm">http://genealogy.about.com/library/print/n052902a.htm</a>

South King County Genealogical Society Date: 21 Jun 2003 PLACE: First Baptist Church 11420 SE 248th St Kent, WA, 98031 TIME: 9:30 am - 12:00 noon Socializing and info sharing begins at 9:30 AM. Meeting begins at 10:00 AM. GUEST SPEAKER: Jerry Handfield, Washington State Archivist "Stop Losing Your Memory: Simple Secrets and the State Archives" Mr. Handfield will give us details on what kind of information is available from the Washington State Archives and how to use it. He'll also fill us in on current Archives projects and how we can help! Visit our Website for further information: http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskcgs/soccalendar.html or call Barb Callahan at 253-852-4218.

REMINDER: SGS Computer IG on Saturday, June 14th abt "Genealogical Database Add-Ons" The June 14th 2003 meeting of the Computer Interest Group of the Seattle Genealogical Society features Sherry Holthe from Legacy Customer Support, Millennia Corporation. Sherry will demonstrate two useful programs: GENViewer and GeneLines. She will have handouts detailing features, system requirements and pricing. Recall that each month we place one copy of all meeting handouts in the (black) Computer Interest Group three ring binder. Feel free to ask for this binder at the SGS desk and make copies for yourself. GENViewer 1.12 is a powerful viewing program that works directly with Legacy, The Master Genealogist, Family Tree Maker and PAF files and also with GEDCOM files from other database software. It has many search and report capabilities, including a multi-file search. For further information, including a free, down-loadable version of GENViewer Lite, visit Mud Creek software at http://www.mudcreek.ca/mainpage.htm . GeneLines for Legacy (and GEDCOM files) creates timelines and charts, putting your ancestors in "time" by importing historical events and relationships on colorful timeline charts. This may be the timeline program we have been seeking! For further information, visit Progeny Software at http://www.progenysoftware.com/ . We will meet on Saturday, June 14th, from 10:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. in the SGS Library at 6200 Sand Point Way NE, across the street from the US National Archives Pacific Branch. Parking is available on the nearby streets. On the Metro Transit #74 & #75 bus lines. Accessible to the Handicapped. David Ault, Chair, Seattle Genealogical Society Computer Interest Group Computer Interest Group E-mail: SGSComputerIG@Juno.com SGS Website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~waseags/ & Phone: 206-522-8658 SGS Office & Library: 6200 Sand Point Way NE, #101, Seattle, WA 98115 * ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

I am looking for "Mary Flint" (My great-great-grandmother) ("real" name was Marie Théotiste Phaneuf, married Joseph Flint AKA Joseph Mazuret dit Lapierre). She was born (I believe) 7JUN1813 in St. Hyacinthe QC, and died in Seattle 17 May 1904. (Some records indicate that family members believed that she was born in France in 1810 -- not true as regards France, and probably not true as regards born in 1810.) Mary came to Seattle on the train from Boston with her daughter and grandchildren during 1903. She must have been very determined lady, to make that trip are her age! St. Mary's Parish has the burial record, but no other info aside from the burial at Calvary. I know where the grave is, but wonder if the funeral home might have additional information. Probably not, but worth a try, I think. Thanks, Virginia Latta Curulla On 6/11/03 9:20 PM, "Mike and Cynthia Baxter" <Baxter_2@msn.com> wrote: > I asked around when you posted previously, and the consensus was that > Collins is now at Evergreen. > PWC (Purdy & Walters and Cassidy) up in Everett is part of the SCI group. > Collins FH was in Seattle, Capitol Hill if I remember from the conversation > and the evolution of the mergers placed it with the records that > Evergreen-Washelli now holds...but just to be sure - who are you looking > for? > Cynthia > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Virginia Curulla" <vcurulla@earthlink.net> > To: <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:08 PM > Subject: Re: [PSRoots] More on Home Undertaking Co. > > >> Cynthia, Do you have any idea who would hold the Collins Funeral Home >> records for 1904. It was said on this list that the Collins records went >> to >> Purdy in Everett, and also that they went to Home Undertaking and then to >> Evergreen Washelli. >> >> Can you point me in the right direction, or should I contact both Purdy >> and >> Evergreen? Thanks, >> >> Virginia Latta Curulla >> Seattle WA >> >> On 6/11/03 4:50 PM, "Mike and Cynthia Baxter" <Baxter_2@msn.com> wrote: >> >>> Mainly because it's been so fun! >>> Wow what a day! I just heard that in July the price for a certified >>> death >>> certificate will be raised from $13.00 to $17.00! Yee-owch! >>> On a lighter side, as I continue to scratch the surface of the evolution >>> of >>> the Seattle Undertaking business - I'm forming the opinion that if one >>> should need to acquire a Home Undertaking record, they might want to >>> blanket >>> the local funeral homes! >>> The reason for this is that in the first quarter of the 20th century, >>> there >>> were a small select group of Seattle undertakers who were trying to make >>> a >>> business for themselves. When browsing through death certificates during >>> this period, you can see that the funeral directors jump from one >>> business >>> to the next, moonlighting, I suppose - in order to make ends meet. For >>> instance, J.J. Bleitz worked not only his own business - the J.J. Bleitz >>> Undertaking Co. but also as a partner in Rafferty-Bleitz, the records >>> for >>> the sole proprietorship remained with the Bleitz Funeral Home whereas >>> the >>> Rafferty-Bleitz records remained with Rafferty which became Clark, >>> Rafferty >>> & Putnam which merged with Acacia & Home Undertaking then in 2001, was >>> acquired by Evergreen-Washelli. Now back to the original point: In the >>> 1920s, Bleitz began performing cremations for Home Undertaking Co., as >>> each >>> body came in for cremation, a record was created for the transaction. It >>> would be safe to assume that this happened in other businesses as well. >>> I >>> don't know how long Bleitz performed cremations for Mr. Home (who >>> incidently >>> started the West Home Funeral Chapel which was later acquired by SCI, >>> same >>> company as for Bleitz), but the point of the point that I'm trying to >>> make >>> is, a cemetery may have some information in the sexton's records, but >>> the >>> funeral home (in my experience) has much more in regards to genealogical >>> value. All it takes is a letter! Or a fax, if you've got it...and on >>> that >>> note, I've just been informed that I have two genealogy requests in my >>> in-box...hurray! I'm back in business! Until then... >>> Cynthia >>> >> >> >

I asked around when you posted previously, and the consensus was that Collins is now at Evergreen. PWC (Purdy & Walters and Cassidy) up in Everett is part of the SCI group. Collins FH was in Seattle, Capitol Hill if I remember from the conversation and the evolution of the mergers placed it with the records that Evergreen-Washelli now holds...but just to be sure - who are you looking for? Cynthia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Virginia Curulla" <vcurulla@earthlink.net> To: <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [PSRoots] More on Home Undertaking Co. > Cynthia, Do you have any idea who would hold the Collins Funeral Home > records for 1904. It was said on this list that the Collins records went > to > Purdy in Everett, and also that they went to Home Undertaking and then to > Evergreen Washelli. > > Can you point me in the right direction, or should I contact both Purdy > and > Evergreen? Thanks, > > Virginia Latta Curulla > Seattle WA > > On 6/11/03 4:50 PM, "Mike and Cynthia Baxter" <Baxter_2@msn.com> wrote: > > > Mainly because it's been so fun! > > Wow what a day! I just heard that in July the price for a certified > > death > > certificate will be raised from $13.00 to $17.00! Yee-owch! > > On a lighter side, as I continue to scratch the surface of the evolution > > of > > the Seattle Undertaking business - I'm forming the opinion that if one > > should need to acquire a Home Undertaking record, they might want to > > blanket > > the local funeral homes! > > The reason for this is that in the first quarter of the 20th century, > > there > > were a small select group of Seattle undertakers who were trying to make > > a > > business for themselves. When browsing through death certificates during > > this period, you can see that the funeral directors jump from one > > business > > to the next, moonlighting, I suppose - in order to make ends meet. For > > instance, J.J. Bleitz worked not only his own business - the J.J. Bleitz > > Undertaking Co. but also as a partner in Rafferty-Bleitz, the records > > for > > the sole proprietorship remained with the Bleitz Funeral Home whereas > > the > > Rafferty-Bleitz records remained with Rafferty which became Clark, > > Rafferty > > & Putnam which merged with Acacia & Home Undertaking then in 2001, was > > acquired by Evergreen-Washelli. Now back to the original point: In the > > 1920s, Bleitz began performing cremations for Home Undertaking Co., as > > each > > body came in for cremation, a record was created for the transaction. It > > would be safe to assume that this happened in other businesses as well. > > I > > don't know how long Bleitz performed cremations for Mr. Home (who > > incidently > > started the West Home Funeral Chapel which was later acquired by SCI, > > same > > company as for Bleitz), but the point of the point that I'm trying to > > make > > is, a cemetery may have some information in the sexton's records, but > > the > > funeral home (in my experience) has much more in regards to genealogical > > value. All it takes is a letter! Or a fax, if you've got it...and on > > that > > note, I've just been informed that I have two genealogy requests in my > > in-box...hurray! I'm back in business! Until then... > > Cynthia > > > >

Cynthia, Do you have any idea who would hold the Collins Funeral Home records for 1904. It was said on this list that the Collins records went to Purdy in Everett, and also that they went to Home Undertaking and then to Evergreen Washelli. Can you point me in the right direction, or should I contact both Purdy and Evergreen? Thanks, Virginia Latta Curulla Seattle WA On 6/11/03 4:50 PM, "Mike and Cynthia Baxter" <Baxter_2@msn.com> wrote: > Mainly because it's been so fun! > Wow what a day! I just heard that in July the price for a certified death > certificate will be raised from $13.00 to $17.00! Yee-owch! > On a lighter side, as I continue to scratch the surface of the evolution of > the Seattle Undertaking business - I'm forming the opinion that if one > should need to acquire a Home Undertaking record, they might want to blanket > the local funeral homes! > The reason for this is that in the first quarter of the 20th century, there > were a small select group of Seattle undertakers who were trying to make a > business for themselves. When browsing through death certificates during > this period, you can see that the funeral directors jump from one business > to the next, moonlighting, I suppose - in order to make ends meet. For > instance, J.J. Bleitz worked not only his own business - the J.J. Bleitz > Undertaking Co. but also as a partner in Rafferty-Bleitz, the records for > the sole proprietorship remained with the Bleitz Funeral Home whereas the > Rafferty-Bleitz records remained with Rafferty which became Clark, Rafferty > & Putnam which merged with Acacia & Home Undertaking then in 2001, was > acquired by Evergreen-Washelli. Now back to the original point: In the > 1920s, Bleitz began performing cremations for Home Undertaking Co., as each > body came in for cremation, a record was created for the transaction. It > would be safe to assume that this happened in other businesses as well. I > don't know how long Bleitz performed cremations for Mr. Home (who incidently > started the West Home Funeral Chapel which was later acquired by SCI, same > company as for Bleitz), but the point of the point that I'm trying to make > is, a cemetery may have some information in the sexton's records, but the > funeral home (in my experience) has much more in regards to genealogical > value. All it takes is a letter! Or a fax, if you've got it...and on that > note, I've just been informed that I have two genealogy requests in my > in-box...hurray! I'm back in business! Until then... > Cynthia >

Mainly because it's been so fun! Wow what a day! I just heard that in July the price for a certified death certificate will be raised from $13.00 to $17.00! Yee-owch! On a lighter side, as I continue to scratch the surface of the evolution of the Seattle Undertaking business - I'm forming the opinion that if one should need to acquire a Home Undertaking record, they might want to blanket the local funeral homes! The reason for this is that in the first quarter of the 20th century, there were a small select group of Seattle undertakers who were trying to make a business for themselves. When browsing through death certificates during this period, you can see that the funeral directors jump from one business to the next, moonlighting, I suppose - in order to make ends meet. For instance, J.J. Bleitz worked not only his own business - the J.J. Bleitz Undertaking Co. but also as a partner in Rafferty-Bleitz, the records for the sole proprietorship remained with the Bleitz Funeral Home whereas the Rafferty-Bleitz records remained with Rafferty which became Clark, Rafferty & Putnam which merged with Acacia & Home Undertaking then in 2001, was acquired by Evergreen-Washelli. Now back to the original point: In the 1920s, Bleitz began performing cremations for Home Undertaking Co., as each body came in for cremation, a record was created for the transaction. It would be safe to assume that this happened in other businesses as well. I don't know how long Bleitz performed cremations for Mr. Home (who incidently started the West Home Funeral Chapel which was later acquired by SCI, same company as for Bleitz), but the point of the point that I'm trying to make is, a cemetery may have some information in the sexton's records, but the funeral home (in my experience) has much more in regards to genealogical value. All it takes is a letter! Or a fax, if you've got it...and on that note, I've just been informed that I have two genealogy requests in my in-box...hurray! I'm back in business! Until then... Cynthia

Here's something I'm coming across while transcribing these funeral records: where the notices where filed. There are four common newspapers used: Seattle Times Post Intelligencer The Star and Union Record - any history buffs have information on the last two? Where would folks go to obtain the obits other than the obvious: the library? Meanwhile, I've got 84 more years to go!!! Cynthia

Norm: Well, Dan Cumberworth died between the 1920 census, where he appears and the 1930 census, where his wife was a widow. You can order his death certificate from the State by designating a search in that 10 year period. This is the State website with instructions on how to order and it has a form to print out if you want to do it by mail. Dept. of Health - death certificates, et al http://www.doh.wa.gov/EHSPHL/chs/death.htm Gloria Lester >>^. .^<<

Gloria, Thank you for the census sheets. I had the 60, 70 & 80 census for Emerson but never notice the D in the 1880. I had the feeling that I had the right person and hoping that someone would have a cemetery book for Tacoma that had him listed with a death date. His wife Susannah died in Aug 1950 and I have sent for her obit, hopefully it will give me the name of the cemetery. With Emerson's death date I would order a death certificate to have one more piece of paper stating parentage. Norm

> Hello Gloria and all! > I had another conversation today with a funeral director about Home = > Undertaking. He said that originally Bleitz was called Clark, Rafferty & = > Putnam with Bleitz. This was early 1900s. Then about 1920-21 J.J. Bleitz = > started his own outfit over at "the new parlour" at 316 Florentia St. = > (north of Queen Anne at the Fremont Bridge). The rest of the gang "went = > to Acacia Park" -- we know as of now that Acacia was bought out by = > Evergreen Washelli and the records are now at EW. But back in the first = > quarter of the 20th century, we had this small group of business = > partners operating out of Acacia and Bleitz. I have been working at = > computerizing Bleitz' records from Client #1 to today. Let me tell you, = > this is a BIG TASK! And as I was typing away, I started to notice in = > 1921 "Home Undertaking Co." in conjunction with Bleitz. The records = > would say things like: Cremation for Home Undertaking Co., Evergreen = > Park (if the cremains were to be buried or placed in a niche). And these = > records that I have, include the vital stats. It's confusing as to who = > actually has the client - they all worked so closely together that there = > really aren't any boundaries. Isn't that nice? So I guess the point of = > this diatribe is that I believe that Home Undertaking Co. goes back to = > the 1920s and their records are mostly at Evergreen Washelli, but it = > wouldn't hurt to try Bleitz as well! Oh and also, Evergreen Washelli was = > known as Evergreen Park and Washelli was known as Washelli (I'm sure = > there was an official name for it, but I don't have receipts from them, = > so...). I hope this answers more questions than it created!!! > Fondly > Cynthia

No idea how far back the Home records go. You can contact Evergreen-Washelli and ask them. They have an e-mail contact on their web site: http://www.evergreen-washelli.com If you find out, let the list know. Gloria Lester >>^. .^<< ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

[PSRoots-L subscribers: TMG=The Master Genealogist, genealogical software] Seattle-area TMG users will meet next Saturday, June 14, at Broadview Library, 130th & Greenwood Ave. N. General TMG Q&A begins at 2:00; discussion of the main topic begins at 2:30. The main topic this month is how to use TMG as a tool (not "just" a database) to organize data and solve genealogical problems. Seattle Public Library (SPL) does not sponsor our meetings, but provides free meeting space for our group. Please find parking on the side streets, as the parking lot is reserved for library users. Metro Transit also serves the neighborhood. View the links below for driving directions and bus information. Broadview Library (map & driving directions): http://www.spl.org/neighborhoodlibs/broadview/brogettingthere.html Metro Transit: Route #5 (Downtown Seattle / Shoreline, Saturday schedule): http://transit.metrokc.gov/tops/bus/schedules/s005_1_.html Route #302 (Northgate / Shoreline, Saturday schedule): http://transit.metrokc.gov/tops/bus/schedules/s302_1_.html

Hello list, I'm looking for a death date for E. Danl CUMBERWORTH Tacoma. He is listed in the 1920 census as Dan CUMBERWORTH, born MI with wife Susanah and son Franklin. Tacoma, WA 1921 City Directory has him as E. Danl (Susanah P) CUMBERWORTH. Susanah is found in the 1930 census as a widow, still living in Tacoma and I found her death as Aug 20, 1950 in Tacoma. Looking for a death date so that I might be able to send for a death certificate. Need to know parents of E. Danl. CUMBERWORTH. I would also like to know what happened to Franklin. Thank you, Norm Gidcumb Thompsonville, MI

Hi, How far back do these records go??? Thanks, Steve

Thanks for the information. I'll give them a try. Virginia Curulla On 6/7/03 5:49 PM, "gclester@juno.com" <gclester@juno.com> wrote: > Evergreen-Washelli has the Home Undertaking Co. records. > > Gloria Lester >>> ^. .^<< > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! >

Sure want to thank Cynthia, Gloria, Audrey and others for their input regarding the list of area Funeral Homes in King County. It is a source some of we Confidential Intermediaries use to solve tough adoption searches. As in Pierce County, the individual Funeral Homes have been taken over by bigger ones or by a conglomerate from out of state. Janet Baccus, Puyallup, WA

Evergreen-Washelli has the Home Undertaking Co. records. Gloria Lester >>^. .^<< ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

You have a good idea, Bob W. The more we can learn from our internet connections, the better! another great project for volunteers to create. D Gray Surnames: WEST, SURRATT, NICHOLAS, WILSON --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).

Can someone tell me where to locate early records of Poulsbo, WA I am looking for a Lutheran SR. Retirement home in the early 1900s. I have no clue other then the fact it was Lutheran and in kitsap Country. The person I am looking for is Maren Hansine Martinussen (Kildal) born 1850 Trondenes, Norway Died about 1910 Kitsap County, Washington. Information said she was married to Teodor Kildal also of Norway. Children inclued: Martin, Marenius, Dortea, Mathilde, Mikal, Kristian, Peder, Johan. * Dortea was known as Dorthy and married unknown Holbrook. Her information said she died in Pierce Co. WA. According to Scandinavian naming pattern family may have been using name of Teodorsen