The following article appeared in Snohomish County Seniors publication printed by Mach Publishing of Snohomish which published The TRIBUNE as a supplement. The article was written by Soren Velice, Staff Writer, and is quoted in full as follows: The Snohomish Senior Center has been steadily growing since John Willis and Jack Tomulty started it in 1989; if it gets a big block grant from the county, it may make a quantum leap in the next frew years. "We're running out of apace," said Joyce Shahan, the center's secretary and spokeswoman. "We held an optn house and took a curvey, and there were services people asked ror, such as a once-a-month wellness clinic ...we want more activities that involve more people from the community.(sic.) "What we see is an open, friendly place where people of all ages can come for activities or just simple social interaction." The center is working with the city to secure a Community Deveopment Block Grant from the county to help expand the facility. The center and the city of Snohomish, which pays the center's water, sewer and garbabe bills and leases the center its land for $1 per year, are working towqard the grant by contracting for preliminary arhchitectral drawings and accompanying cost estimate. That will cost approximately $4,000. City treasurer Brad Nelson, whp's working with the center on the grant, said it's far too early to make a guess at the cost, but that$4,--- may open the door to much, much more. The city has allowed for $1 million in the city's capital facilities plan; that document doesn't secure the money or guarantee it will be spent, but the city must have it in the plan in case the block grant or other funding comes through. "We're trying to get it together before the funding cycle that"s starting up pretty soon," Nelson said. "We re putting $1 million in the capital facilitites plan." Some of the block grant, if the city gets it, may end up paying for decertifying the site as a cemetery. Most of the grave sites were removed when the state highway department built U.S. Highway 2 throught town, but some graves may remain. A judgment last year requires the city to explore for any remaining graves and transfer them to decertify the site. "The city has been going through a bidding process that has to be done to satisfy Judge French's requirement," Shahan said. "They're far enough along that they have some bids, it's going to be w whopper." Although it's outside the scope of the block grant, the city and the senior center are talking with Snohomish Affordable Housing (SAH) to lease off part of the parcel occupied by the center for senior housing. Dan Smoots, Snohomish Affordable Housing's director, said although his group's funding will remain outside the block grant, SAH's plan there might help the grant through. "What we would be happy to do is get a separate parcel on the same site," he said. The city could sell sAH a parcel, or it could lease it long term, as it does with the Everett E. Olsen Youth Center (located on the Averill Field site - CC.) and the Senior Center. "We would build low-income housing for seniors only; it would be independent, but we'd be working closely with the center and the city," Smoots said. "Knowing that block grant might stimulate another organization - our nonprovit - might enhance their ability to get the block grant." End of quote article, and picture of seniors playing bridge - photo by Soren Velice, writer. * * * COMMENT: The inception for a cemetery of three acres began with B.W. Sinclair, pioneer of Snohomish who had land known as the Sinclair Addition in Snohomish. The 3 acres was adjacent to the Pilchuck River, a decent placer for a white woman, the first to die in Snohomish County, having drowned in the Snohomish River while in a canoe with Charles Low in the year 1871. Mr. Sinclair passed away before negotiations with city fathers could be culminated, so it befell to his widow to take the reins of the estate. The widow, was in poor health and she, too, passed away before negotiations were established, leaving 2 children, as heirs to their estate. Mary L. Sinclair, sister of B.W. Sinclair was appointed executrix, and the 2 children were wards of the court. Given the authority by the court to transact their business, the 3 acres of cem. land became known by July of 1875 as the Snohomish Cemetery Association. Among this association were Hugh Ross, pres., Issac Cathcart, v.pres.; E.C.Ferguson, father and founder of Snohomish, as secretary; and trustees Frank Dolan, John Ross and Alonzo LOW. The deed was recorded in 1876, and the plat was recorded 1885 signed by Isaac Cathcart. The Hwy 2 cut through a portion of the cemetery took place in 1947 but the Hwy 2 designation was discontinued and Hwy 2 skirts around the city of Snohomish - it exists today as the approach and bridge across the Pilchuck River which is the access/exit street at 2nd Street and Cypress Street (Not Pine as errored in past writings.-CC). Therefore, there is the smaller portion of the original Snohomish Cemetery Assoc. site to the North behind Rite Aid and Penneys Outlet, then the highway cut, then the largest, or southern portion of the original cemetery on the south portion of the original 3 acres, where the present Snohomish Senior Center has rested with blacktop parking for 10 years, as they are celebrating their 10th Anniversary. The existing house was removed from a former site and was placed on top of the cemetery. Thirty feet of extension was added onto the house when more room was needed for bingo and other activities as needed. The City had archeological probings which at first did not show any signs of graves, but the last archeological dig did expose the foot, ankle bones, and bones of the leg below the knee at about a 5 ft depth which was quickly refilled with dirt so that the complete skeleton was not exposed. There were several witnesses to that event, and the City and other skeptics had to acknowledge that there were truly remains in that cemetery despite there a number of persons who said there were no remains there. Most of us knew that lived not far from that cemetery that ALL the remains had not been removed, especially from the North portion and the much larger South portion, whereas the Hwy 2 dig was much deeper and more accountable as the cost per skull found was a matter of expense for that project. The rest is h i s t o r y and the history tends to be "uninteresting" among historians; and we hear such statements as "That woman in Seattle" at what is supposed to be an historical meeting, in an historical meeting place, by historians, but the irony of it all is dismaying. What is regarded as history by some is not always regarded as history by others, i.e. we emphasize some aspects of historic places, for instance, while we dismiss other places as not historic. The perspective tends to go amiss ! Carroll in Snohomish * * * 30 * * *

The regular monthly meeting of the Seattle TMG Users Group is next Saturday, Nov. 8, 2:00-4:30 p.m., at the Broadview Library (a branch of Seattle Public Library), located at 130th and Greenwood Ave. N. The first half-hour, 2:00-2:30, will be a general Q&A session, an opportunity for questions (and answers!) on any aspect of TMG. Discussion of the main topic, "Land Records 101", begins at 2:30. Land records are valuable sources for genealogical research. We will discuss the various types of land records, and demonstrate ways of using TMG to enter land record sources, events and citations. The Broadview Library is located at the intersection of two Metro Transit buslines (click one of the links below). For driving directions and a map of the neighborhood, check out the Broadway Library website (link below). The Broadview Library parking lot is reserved for library patrons; please find parking on the surrounding streets. Everyone interested in learning more about TMG is welcome! Broadview Library "Getting There" site, including driving directions and a map: http://www.spl.org/default.asp?pageID=branch_open_directions&branchID=5 Metro Transit Route #5 (downtown Seattle to/from Shoreline Community College): http://transit.metrokc.gov/tops/bus/schedules/s005_1_.html Metro Transit Route #345 (Northgate Transit Center to/from Aurora Village Transit Center): (Note: Route #345 recently replaced Route #302. Route #302 no longer exists.) http://transit.metrokc.gov/tops/bus/schedules/s345_1_.html

Hi, I was just browsing my newsletter from Third Place Books in Lake Forest Park (Washington). They listed all the author booksignings scheduled and had a note about a town history just published. =================== Priscilla Droge .............. This rich history of Kenmore, settled on the north shore of Lake Washington, draws on contributions from more than 250 residents' photos and stories and was a project of the Kenmore Heritage Society. =================== No other details as yet. Kenmore is one of the newest incorporated towns in Washington state, but it's probably pretty old as a settlement because of its position at the head of Lake Washington. I know that Lake Forest Park was settled and available by boat when there were few or no roads. I suspect Kenmore would be the same. Diane Hettrick dhettrick@earthlink.net

In a message dated 10/30/03 8:42:43 PM, gclester@juno.com writes: << According to the information I have found, burial permits were required by the STATE in 1907, and so that date would also apply to King County. >> Thank you so much, Gloria! Of the various offices I spoke to (and that included the medical examiner's office) :D nary a soul knew the answer nor if the burial permits are considered a permanent archive as are the rest of vital records. Best guess was 7 years. I thought the door was closed. You gave me a place to continue. Thanks! Linda

How neat!!! Have you been able to access the pictures you'll need from Issaquah? If not, let me know and I'll see what I can do. I haven't forgotten the memorial. Linda

This is for CC's ... "They want to be found" file. I spent this last weekend 25-27 Oct 2003 in Bridgeport Washington as a volunteer for "The Moving Wall" Event. I wasn't paying much attention to the long hair biker guy who had come back to the info tent for help finding his classmate who he knew was on the Wall. He was looking for LeRoy Reukauf... and the spelling was a little rough. One of the volunteers came up with Lee Reukauf of Kansas City KS... and the guy wasn't goin' for it... "Lee Reukauf can't be from Kansas City because he graduated from Lincoln High School in Seattle", he said loud enough to penetrate my computer induced coma... I'm not a little girl but I was squealing like one.... Lee Reukauf from Seattle ... No Way... I've got him in my database.... *********** A little background... I've involved with a project to "place faces to the names of the 1144 Washington State men whose names are on the Vietnam Wall". Been working on it for nearly a year and Bridgeport was my first physical show of the website. To find my pictures (I'm using yearbook pics) I look for obituaries... Now the problem, Seattle has 231 men who called it their "town of record"... 231 boys/men and 10 or so possible schools... So I've been trying to contact high school alumni for help... Sometime I get great help and sometimes I'm totally ignored... Last winter I got out my copy of the 1964 Lincoln High Yearbook and started looking through it for an unusual name... one that I could "Google". I was hoping for a genealogy minded computer geek... and I picked Lee Reukauf... I found his name ... on the Vietnam Memorial Wall... yep the guy from Kansas City Ks. Well, you all know that you can't use stuff that isn't documented and well... what was a nice Seattle boy doin' joining the Army out of Kansas City KS? But I knew that Lee Reukauf (Seattle) was the right guy... Knew it enough in my heart to scan the picture, copy the info, get the official data, and create a place for him in my Washington State database. I did not put him online as a Washington soldier. I just wrote a note to myself, "Is this the right guy???... find out!!!" *********** So back the the tent... the one at Bridgeport... 175 miles from my home, 250 miles from Seattle, and thousands of miles from Kansas City KS. Back to Glenn Maxwell looking for his Lincoln High School classmate of 1964. Yep, my heart was right... Glenn went out to do a rubbing of Lee's name and I began work to place Lee online with the Seattle gang... Still don't know what Lee was doin' in St. Louis... Maybe at some later date Glenn and I will work together to get Lee Reukauf's name on the Olympia Memorial Wall... and that's my "They want to be found" story. Good huntin' Everyone. Darilee bookstorelady@prodigy.net http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskagit - Skagit USGW http://www.thirdstbooks.com - 3rd St. Book Exchange http://www.facesfromthewall.com - Faces From the Wall - Vietnam/Washington

Hello List: I put this question to my local library's on-line Ask A Librarian and received the answer below. Gloria Lester >>^. .^<< [Librarian]: Closed by Librarian #104339. [Answer]: Hello, and thanks for using Ask a Librarian. According to the information I have found, burial permits were required by the STATE in 1907, and so that date would also apply to King County. I checked with an official with the Office of Vital Statistics for the State of Washington, and he indicated that 1907 was the year when burial permits were required. The Revised Code of Washington, which are state laws, includes a section on Vital Statistics--Title 70, section 58. Here is a link to these laws--you may want to look at the sections that include information about burial permits (70.58.230-) At the bottom of each of these laws, there is a brief legislative history, and it indicates that these laws were originally passed by the legislature in 1907. William at Ask a Librarian ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

I have some lovely photos of a cemetery which were taken by a researcher in Wisconsin. She calls them Foggy, Eerie Cemetery. If you would like to have them to enjoy or to send out to friends, please email me and I will send them as an email attachment. I have heard that there are people who do not love cemeteries <gasp> but I doubt they are on this list! Diane Hettrick, Seattle dhettrick@earthlink.net

SNOHOMISH - Many of you will be interested to know about a Proposal for a New Senior Center, & Low Cost Housing comlex, proposed for the existing senior center which resides atop of Snohomish Cemetery, variously nicknamed Indian Cemetery, and various other designations over the iterim. This historical cem. dates back to the early to mid 1800s when in 1875 when Snohomish Cemetery Association was formed. Watch for news articals in The Herald, The Tribune, et al publications which may carry news of the proposed new Sr. Ctr./Housing project to built upon the existing cemetery site. Architectral drawings of the buildings, parking areas, and configuration were presented at the Snohomish Senior Center located at 2nd Street and Cypress Avenue, the south portion of the cemetery. The presentation was held October 16 at 12 Noon. Grace Kim and Elizabeth Thompson, architects presented the drawings. It is to be electrically heated, room for 37 parking spaces, total, and a cost estimate of $670,000 for just the buildings, not including furnishings. The blacktop approach to the proposed facility would be from the South side of the cemetery, whereas the present approach is from the West side of the cemetery where the blacktop has quite limited parking, presently. Pilchuck Julia's burial site was at the SW corner of the cemetery when as a 13 yr old boy, Vic Matthison was the only witness to the burial because of the fear of Smallpox exposure - the persons burying her did their work quickly and got away from there for fear of the possible smallpox exposure. I interviewed Vic some years ago about that event when he could still hear, and when his wife was still living. Both were mail carriers, he in Snohomish, she via vehicle as a rural route carrier. Vic had been mail carrier at our home on 2nd Street part of those earlier times. He told me about the booze that would be stashed back of some of the tombstones at Snohomish Cemetery for pick up after they'd been delivered in addition to the milk delivery wagon of the time. I wonder if this was some of the booze that came down from Canada by "speedboats" and "dropped off" at various places along the way, Whidbey Island places, and along our own shorelines. Then there was the hollow room inside the huge sand and gravel source in the City of Snohomish where the booze could be stashed until delivered, or called for. (Was Snohomish ever really "dry" during those Depression/Prohibition Years?). Sorry I got carried "away"! Back to the Sr Ctr: Brad Nelson, from the City's budgeting, was present and others were present along with say 15 - 20 seniors interested in the proposed project. The meeting lasted approx. 30 minutes, and will await acceptance by the City Council for acceptance of the proposal. * * * Another Afterthought: At the east end of the existing extention of the present Sr Ctr a picture of an Indian holding his long rifle hung for many years on the east wall. I thought ironic that this picture hung closest to the main part of the cemetery, in fact very near where there are several large base stones of sandstone with the criss crossed embossing typical of the base stones from the 1800s and early 1900s, along with a granite base stone of a pinkinsh cast with the letters T H O M A S on it. I have seen this many times, and though they are piled askew below a couple of young trees at the NE corner of the extended Sr Ctr. I looked to see if I could find the Indian holding the rifle, but I nearly gave up seeing it when I had to use the lavatory which is typical at my age. As I entered the small lavatory which is for men and women, as I closed the door, my eyes found the Indian picture that hung on the east wall for such a long time, back of the door on the floor, leaning against the wall. Additional irony ! The place on the east wall had a painting of balloons - the type Snohomish is noted for, for those who go ballooning near Harvey Airfield. It replaced the Indian picture. * * * To find out about acceptance of the Poposal, check: Ref. The HERALD, Everett, WA. Date: Section: Site: http://www.heraldnet.com/about Article: COMMENT: and/or The Tribune, and Other publications or Snohomish City Hall or Snohomish Sr Ctr, but not the Snohomish Cemetery/Indian Cemetery where Caucasians and Indians were buried in those early historical times. Carroll in Snohomish * * * 30 * * *

The burial permits were required by law. You might be able to narrow it down if you check Session laws for the period of about 1895 - 1910. I have some of the Session laws at our web site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wapsgs. Click on the link for Laws. It may not actually be at the site, but this will give you at least an idea of what to look for. In the current laws, you want to look at the RCW titled "Human Remains." Andi MacDonald andimac@verizon.net Washington State Cemetery Association wsca@verizon.net > > From: Irshgni@aol.com > Date: 2003/10/23 Thu AM 10:51:48 CDT > To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PSRoots] Burial records > > I've been trying to track down the legalities of burial records/permits in > King County and when they became legally required. So far, I've come up empty. > Anyone have any ideas? > > L > >

Hello, While some counties kept at least partial records earlier, the state first required death records kept by the counties in 1891. Some counties complied completely, others less so. Beginning July 1907 the state took over the job. The query is about burial records, which are not exactly the same thing, but if the writer meant vital death records then perhaps this answer will help. Kevin Fraley ----- Original Message ----- From: <andimac@verizon.net> To: <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [PSRoots] Burial records > The burial permits were required by law. You might be able to narrow it down if you check Session laws for the period of about 1895 - 1910. I have some of the Session laws at our web site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wapsgs. Click on the link for Laws. It may not actually be at the site, but this will give you at least an idea of what to look for. In the current laws, you want to look at the RCW titled "Human Remains." > > Andi MacDonald > andimac@verizon.net > Washington State Cemetery Association > wsca@verizon.net > > > > > From: Irshgni@aol.com > > Date: 2003/10/23 Thu AM 10:51:48 CDT > > To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [PSRoots] Burial records > > > > I've been trying to track down the legalities of burial records/permits in > > King County and when they became legally required. So far, I've come up empty. > > Anyone have any ideas? > > > > L > > > > > > >

I've been trying to track down the legalities of burial records/permits in King County and when they became legally required. So far, I've come up empty. Anyone have any ideas? L

The other day, while waiting for my wife and my daughter on a shopping spree at a large mall ( I get malled there!) I considered purchasing a pretzel from one of those island booths in the center aisle of the mall. I chose the cinnamon one of the soft type good sized pretzel. I've always wondered about pretzels, so that same week The Herald had an artical about Prezels, and the fact that it not an ordinary snack; i.e. there is a Story behind these critters, just as there is with Lefse among the Scandinavian types. The artical was so highly illustratedwith graphics and digital technology that I read with relish about Pretzels: History, Traditions, Pretzels Come to America, Kinds, Storage, and Did You Know?, including an illustration of the Pretzel Belt in the U. S. of A. including the "Pretzel Capital of the World" Reading, PA, with Chicago and New York as runners up. According to this artical Pretzels are 2nd only to Potato Chips, but precedes Popcorn among the "salties" which is hard to believe. The article illustrates how to form the Pretzels and has recipes for "kicking up" food presentations. You'd guess that the Pretzel originated among the German bakers of old but this artical points out that about 610 A.D.or about 1400 yrs ago a baker in Southern France, or Northern Italy used some excess pieces of bread dough to try a new shape to his product. You will have to read to find out what inspired him to do so, and why he did so. It became a religious symbol. At first these twists of bread dough were referred to a pretiolas, which is a Latin word for "little rewards". Read how this new twist in the shape of a baker's imagination and creativeness crossed the Alps into what we now call Austria and Germany. Little do would we know about the approximate derivation of the Pretzel, but this artical can open our eyes to what our ancestors experienced, and we, now, take for granted unknowingly: Ref. The HERALD, Everett, WA. Date: Wed. Oct 22, 2003 Section: Food page Title: The Pretzel Knot just any ordinary snack Site: http://www.heraldnet.com/about Article: Highly informative, excellently illustrated, and interestingly presented knowledge of this food item we tend to take for granted w/o really giving it a second thought while savoring its experience gastrnomically. COMMENT: The hard pretzels are great with all those salt crystals, but those larger soft pretzels with various flavors are really hard to beat, especially in a mall (while getting malled) and waiting for those who loved ones to show up with all their sacks of "findings" as the result of "Sales" ! Carroll in Snohomish whose Palatine ancestors, the Michaels (Michels, Mikels, etc.) came to America in the 1700s probably from the Pfalz region of what is now called Germany and may have had a taste for Pretzels among he various other goodies they managed to transport among their taste buds of olde. * * * 30 * * * Ham radio operators work hard to maintain disaster communications - like the f l o o d s our part of the world are experiencing these days and nights. All done by volunteer hams who by law (FCC regs.)cannot accept any form of pay for their service. They enjoy being able to give back to the communities. * * * 30 * * *

Audrey: The 1888 R. L. Polk Puget Sound Directory has a listing for Jackson, W. P. Photographer, 1101 Pacific Ave, boards 924 G.. In the same directory there is a Dunbar, Fee C., House mover resides 1136 D. Maxine Alexander

I had noticed a Dunbar family in the Snohomish area. They had hardware business, this was in 1950 or so. No relation,----- Original Message ----- From: by way of Cyndi Howells <cyndihow@oz.net> To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 10:13 PM Subject: [PSRoots] Mattie Dunbar I am going through my great grandparents' picture album and want to know if anyone is related to the following lady: Mattie Dunbar Picture taken at Studio of William P. Jackson Corner of 11th St. and Pacific Avenue Tacoma, Washington Territory This means that the picture was taken before Washington became a state in 1889. I would love to share it with a descendant. Does anyone have any information on the studio of William P. Jackson? Audrey Cox Vogelpohl Seattle, Washington

In a message dated 10/19/03 11:02:05 PM, avogelpohl@comcast.net writes: << I am going through my great grandparents' picture album and want to know if anyone is related to the following lady: Mattie Dunbar >> Audrey, There was a Dunbar family in Issaquah c1940s. I have no idea where the two girls have gone, but I'll try tracking one of them down this week. Linda

I am going through my great grandparents' picture album and want to know if anyone is related to the following lady: Mattie Dunbar Picture taken at Studio of William P. Jackson Corner of 11th St. and Pacific Avenue Tacoma, Washington Territory This means that the picture was taken before Washington became a state in 1889. I would love to share it with a descendant. Does anyone have any information on the studio of William P. Jackson? Audrey Cox Vogelpohl Seattle, Washington

Check the Washington State Cemetery Association website at <A HREF="http://www.rootsweb.com/~wapsgs">http://www.rootsweb.com/~wapsgs</A> Click on"Contact Us" and you will find the new Bellingham address for WSCA and Andi. The new email address is WSCA@verizon.net Bob Witherspoon

I have e-mail for Andrea MacDonald "Andi" but her andimac@oz.net addr. doesn't go through to her for me. Does anyone have her correct e-mail address? Thank you, Carroll at Snohomish w7iml@gte.net * * * 30 * * *

Posting from another list... So I can't take any credit for finding this amazing website.... Hurray for the UW library Darilee Washington State Pioneer Life Database http://content.lib.washington.edu/pioneerlifeweb/index.html Like many other parts of the American West, the area that later became the state of Washington in 1889 was a place of great opportunity, both in terms of the existing natural resources, and in a more intangible fashion, a place that represented a new beginning for those persons venturing west from the Midwest and the East Coast. This recently developed online database presented by the University of Washington Library contains writings, diaries, letters, and recollections from those persons who moved to Washington in the 19th century. Visitors can search the collections, or elect to browse through the collection list, which contains over two dozen primary documents available for viewing. Some of the highlights here include the recollections of Lila Hannah Firth who lived on San Juan Island (located in Puget Sound) in the 1860s and an account of the first ascension of Mount Rainier, one Dr. William F. Tolmie. Rounding out the site is an online exhibition titled Northwest of the West: the Frontier Experience on the Northwest Coast., which serves as a nice introduction to the overall experience of these first pioneers moving west. [KMG] bookstorelady@prodigy.net http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskagit - Skagit USGW http://www.thirdstbooks.com - 3rd St. Book Exchange http://www.facesfromthewall.com - Faces From the Wall - Vietnam/Washington