Hi! My 87 year old mother says that Carman Manufacturing Co. was in one of the brick buildings across from the old train station on Pacific Avenue in Tacoma. She had me crawling under her dining room furniture, because she thought they had made the set, but I found no labels. Mary Ellen Forsberg Tacoma, Washington

Hi! I solved that problem by opening a checking account at the Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce. With the Canadian dollar being what it is now, a few American dollars will buy you a lot. I went to Key Bank recently and withdrew money from my Canadian account. They didn't charge me any extra. Mary Ellen Forsberg Tacoma, Washington

In a message dated 9/5/98 8:57:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, clarkw7iml@juno.com writes: << If any of you have any information about the Carman Manufacturing Company whose main base was in Portland, OR, but they also manufactured furniture in Tacoma, as my chiffonier ( if that is the correct name for it) has a label from Tacoma, I would appreciate information about it. >> To Carroll of Snohomish, and all the other Puget Sounders interested in the history of the Carman Manufacturing Company, there is a web site that has a pretty good history of "Carman", complete with old photos! The website is: http://www.springairnw.com/history.html Hope this helps. If you don't have access to the WWW, maybe I could "cut and paste" the text into an email message. (Didn't see any copyright restrictions.) I'll be on vacation for a couple weeks, beginning Monday. Talk to you all later! HOLTON-L List Owner The Rootbound Researcher * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ^ ^ Kitty (CURTIS) Martin Kent, Washington - - k9504m@aol.com Researching: CURTIS, GATES, HENSLEY, HOL(E)TON, JAMES; ZIEGLER, SWIFT, POLK, GREGORY, GRACE (etc.) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/8946/index.htm

If any of you have any information about the Carman Manufacturing Company whose main base was in Portland, OR, but they also manufactured furniture in Tacoma, as my chiffonier ( if that is the correct name for it) has a label from Tacoma, I would appreciate information about it. Somewhere, among my archives I read about that Company but I would like to find out more about it, and especially how it has come down through the many years as its present name under Spring Aire mftr. of mattresses, etc. Thank you for any help or info you might have on this subject. Carroll of Snohomish * * * _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

This is the comment I got back after describing a piece of furniture that I had used most of my life growing up, and how it comes to have a genealogical tie: On Fri, 4 Sep 1998 19:46:46 -0400 (EDT) Patricia Tidmarsh writes: >Carroll -- The Carman Manufacturing Company was started by my great >uncle >Joseph Lincoln Carman, my grandfather's older brother. I am >fascinated >to hear that you have furniture made by them, as I dont think my >brother >or I have any. > >I had little contact with that branch of the family and cared nothing > >for genealogy as a child. It was only when I inherited a box of >unannotated >photos that I became interested in the Carman family and learned of >their >history. > >My grandfather worked at the Carman Manufacturing Co until he retired >at >age 72 to Los Angeles. He was in various cities -- in Spokane, >Seattle and >Portland. > >The Carman Manufacturing Company is now associated with Spring Air >Mattresses and is still in the family. We exchange Christmas cards, >but >I really dont know them, and, as far as I know none of them are >enthusiastic about genealogy. Well, neither is my wife, even though her immigrant ancestor John CARMAN, came to America from England; known to have been an Eng. sea captain; arrived at MA Bay Colony July 4, 1631 on the Plough, according to the records of John Winthrop of the Colony. He was a Familist, a liberal Puritan sect. His status progressed from Freeman, at Roxbury MA, then Deputy to the General Court of MA Bay Colony, ahcieving the title Goodman Carman, removed to Sagus MA, now Lynn MA, where he became interested in forming a new town called Sandwich, which on a 1670 map is shown as a Puritan village & very much in existence today. In 1640, he moved on to New Haven Colony, & then on to Western Long Island, N.Y. Colony, and achieved the title of Mister Carman, which in those times was a prominant title. He acquired a substantial amount of land on long island and was among the developers of Oyster Bay region and Hempstead, L.I. NY. Isn't it interesting how a piece of quality furniture in the possession of myself can tie to the fabulous genealogy of the lady I marry. And I am just now finding out about the tie of her Family Line; by accidentally writing a description of that chiffonier, just because the label on the back of it happened to be the same surname as hers. And that is the rest of the Story, SO FAR. . . . . Carroll of Snohomish * * * 30 * * * . _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I, Carroll Clark, just subscribed to a new gen. website, CARMAN-ROOTS@rootsweb.com & found that I was the 1st subscriber. This new site was begun by Patricia Tidmarsh across the nation in N.Y.C. My wife of 48 yrs. in Aug. had the surname CARMAN, but she has no interest in gen., but I do as our offspring are part of the CARMAN gen., so I have maintained the info. Just another oddity among Gen. Ties read the following, then read the reply from Patricia following my description of a piece of FURNITURE I used as a kid, and I am now 73, and no kid! : On Fri, 4 Sep 1998 14:39:47 -0700 clarkw7iml writes: >I had a dresser that was my Mothers, but she gave it to me when I was >young to keep my clothes in over the many years - it was manufactured >by the Carman Manufacturing Company of Tacoma, WA but its major plant >was at Portland Oregon. (This as the result of some of my early Research in Seattle Library - CC.) >They made excellent quality furnature in the 1920, 30s, and perhaps >into the 40s I am not sure of the latter years. >What is interesting about my dresser, it has 3 regular drawers, but at >the top it has 2 doors that swing open and two drawers that pull out. >It has some interesting decoration on either side made of wood. >The Boeing Company early in its Seattle history went into a slump making >airplanes in the 1920s and began making furniture - one of the >dressers they made was almost exactly the same as the one I had which >was definitely made my Carman Mfg. Co. Tacoma as the label is still on >it. I gave that dresser to my son and his wf when they were first >married. They still have that dresser . . . I had wondered many times over the years if The Carman Manufacturing Company of Portland and Tacoma was of the same Carman Family as my wife's. NOW, read the reply that I got back from Patricia of Carman-Roots-D@rootsweb.com under the Subject CARMAN FURNITURE TIES: Carroll of Snohomish >>>Clues Yield Pay Dirt!<<< _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi really enjoyed your story of your family ties. Aren't they fabulous when you start connecting. In checking for some of my family, after having spent about 15 years doing my husband's line I found my forebears and his had lived right next door to eah other in s very small town just south of where we now live - His folks came from Ireland and thru VA, PA and mine came from England, NY, PA, IN and all eventually into IL - Even in those days - with transportation what it was - we did get around and it was a small world.thanks for sharing your story - Harriet in IL

On Fri, 4 Sep 1998, Marty Cassidy wrote: > Certainly someone in the Psroots area will have encountered this problem. I > haven't until just today. > > I recently made contact with a large family contingent in Alberta, and went > to their family reunion last month. Many pictures were taken, and I'd like > copies of them. Of course, I expect to pay for the copies, but was > immediately stymied by the thought of how can I send them money? > > I'd bet their banks charge a fee for converting money, or at least for > processing a US check. I expect more financial transactions among us for > similar reimbursables, both directions. I want to avoid those fees if possible. > > Or is this not a problem? My bank would charge admission to their building > as soon as they figure out how to do it. I can just see their eyes light up > when I bring in a check drawn on a Canadian bank.... > > I hope this is a trivial problem. Thanks for the advice! > > Marty Cassidy > > cassidym@accessone.com (2 c's and 2 s's in accessone) > Seattle, WA USA Marty, If you go to your bank they can issue a bank draft or M.O. in Canadian funds with little cost to you. Any bank can do it, even if you don't have an account. Happy to help anytime, John You wanna discuss it? Try: INDIAN-HERITAGE discussion list *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====* # John Wm Sloniker <johnwms@serv.net> Seattle, WA # # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*

Marty, I work for a travel agency. During Expo 86 in Vancouver, most of the hotels wanted deposits. Those who didn't have a credit card to give the hotel went to the bank and got an International Draft drawn on Canadian Funds. The exchange rate is very much in our favor by the way. Nora -- Mailto:Norahiatt@sprintmail.com Andrew Manar Where are YOU??? http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/i/a/Nora-Ann-Hiatt-WA/

Certainly someone in the Psroots area will have encountered this problem. I haven't until just today. I recently made contact with a large family contingent in Alberta, and went to their family reunion last month. Many pictures were taken, and I'd like copies of them. Of course, I expect to pay for the copies, but was immediately stymied by the thought of how can I send them money? I'd bet their banks charge a fee for converting money, or at least for processing a US check. I expect more financial transactions among us for similar reimbursables, both directions. I want to avoid those fees if possible. Or is this not a problem? My bank would charge admission to their building as soon as they figure out how to do it. I can just see their eyes light up when I bring in a check drawn on a Canadian bank.... I hope this is a trivial problem. Thanks for the advice! Marty Marty Cassidy cassidym@accessone.com (2 c's and 2 s's in accessone) Seattle, WA USA

Hello everybody, I'm new to this list, and will just mention what brings me here. I was born in Nottingham, England, between the Wars, and am one of the descendants of John KEYWOOD, a Framework Knitter of Hucknall Torkard, near Nottingham. The surname is probably the same as CAWOOD, which I believe is more widespread in the States than the form used in my family. Originally it must have come from the Yorkshire village of Cawood. Early this century two of my grandmother's brothers, William and Frederick KEYWOOD (Will and Fred), emigrated to the USA, and I believe worked on the railways,ending up in Tacoma, where Fred died in 1941 and Will in 1945. They corresponded from time to time, but I only have a couple of letters to show for it. My grandmother, Kate STAPLETON, died in 1942. Fred KEYWOOD had a daughter Gladys, born around 1912, whose married name was WILLIAMS. I know my mother heard from her in the early 1960s, from an address on So. Madison Street, Tacoma, but my mother is no longer around to give me any further information. I would love to know if any of the family are still living around there, and how I might go about getting in touch again. John, in Lewisham, Greater London, England

Bernard (Barney) LYNCH had 162 neighbors in the state of Wisconsin in 1860 all named LYNCH. Some of them were his brothers and/or sisters. Does anyone out there have any LYNCH ancestors that lived in Wisconsin in 1860? Barney moved there from CT sometime before 1856, perhaps to be near his siblings,or they may all have moved together. Would greatly appreciate it if you would look through your records to see if there is a Wisconsin connection in your LYNCH ancestry Don Styer DCStyer@aol.com

John: For information on research, if you access: http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/famline.htm which is the email address for our Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society Family Line Research service. Perhaps we can help you. Maxine Alexander

Tuesday evening, September 8, 1998: "Show and Tell - What We Did This Summer." by Members of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society Come and share the stories of your summer projects, your successes, and how you removed those grass-stains on the knees of your pants after your trip to the cemetery. We're all dying to know how you spent the last few months. TPCGS meetings are held in the Olympic Room at the Tacoma Public Library, 1102 Tacoma Avenue South, Tacoma, Washington. Meetings begin at 7:00 pm, preceded by a social "cookies & coffee" time which begins at 6:30 pm. Guests are always welcome! We'll see you there! Cyndi TPCGS 1st VP & Webmaster P.S. Mark, Evan and I will be unable to attend due to a prior commitment. We were looking forward to showing off what Evan did this summer - learn to walk and talk. I guess we'll see you in October instead.

At 09:56 PM 9/2/98 -0700, you wrote: >unsubscibe > >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > Hi - Your unsubscribe command didn't work because you used the wrong e-mail address for the list. Here are the instructions for unsubscribing: To unsubscribe, send a NEW e-mail message to: PSRoots-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) OR PSRoots-D-request@rootsweb.com (for a digest of multiple messages) In the body include only one word: unsubscribe (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) Good luck, Cyndi ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Cyndi Howells Puyallup, Washington PSRoots List Poohbah cyndihow@oz.net PSRoots-L Mailing List http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/psroots.htm To subscribe or unsubscribe from the list, send a NEW e-mail message to: PSRoots-L-request@rootsweb.com or PSRoots-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode) with only one word in the body: subscribe or: unsubscribe

I am planing a reunion for August 7, 1999 to be held in Olympia, Washington. Anyone researching the "Schwiesow's" is welcome to attend, please e-mail me for further information. Lorie Schwiesow-Wharton <A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3273/">loriew's Home Page Genealogy Researh SCHWIESOW WHARTON CAINES KAWELMACHER BOOKS</A>

Can someone please advise me of a person who could do lookups in Seattle King Co., area? I need help finding the death dates & obits on : THOMAS J. CARBAUGH and his wife, KATY BAYLOR CARBAUGH They lived in Fall City, King, WA in 1920 census & were abt 50-60 yrs old then. Iwould imagine they died before 1950. I would be willing to pay for copies of the obits if found. Thanks, Marilyn Light <Lighthse@enol.com>

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Hi: Rebecca PATTERSON was b. in Benton Co., OR on June 30, 1886. She was the daughter of Washington PATTERSON b. abt 1819 in Madison Co., OH. and Chloe NORTON b. Dec. 1, 1821 in Maidson Co. OH. When Washington died in 1884 in Whitman Co. WA. Rebecca was single. When Chloe died on June 16, 1908 she was married to E. T. French and living in Enumclaw WA. Any information regarding this family would be appreciated. Who were E. T. and Chloe's children. Thanks Ellen Craven

Carman-Roots-L-request@rootsweb or Carman-Roots-D-request@rootsweb.com are the List or Digest versions for those interested. It is a new site conducted by Patricia CARMAN Tidmarsh. I neglected to find out where she is located but from her e-mail addr. I would guess that it might be New York City or environs, as the echonyc.com leads me to guess that that is where she is. At the present time, Patricia is discussing myths of the Carman Family, & the one that I, too, have been trying to find out more info about was the Carman surname found in Fox's Book of Martyr's" by John Fox. I found such a book at a used book store in Bothell, WA. It was of tissue thin paper and they wanted $20 for it. I nearly bought it but hesitated. When I went back in a week or so to buy it, it had been sold, and I have never seen another copy of it as complete and of fine tissue paper pages. I have seen it in a much abbreviated form and rewrites of it but I was unable to find the info that was in that first book that I found. From what Patricia has said, it appears that this Carman is not of the same Carman Fam. or that the story has not been proven among the CARMAN FAM of N.Y. immigrant Fam. The story I read in that Bothell version was that a Carman, which may have been Thomas Carman witnessed with his companions a friend-compatriot about to be burned at the stake in England, and that Carman shouted to the friend-victim that he would carry on for him and that he would not die in vain. I was not aware of the Carman Bros. whom Patricia has talked about . I had hoped this story to be of this Fam. but like Patricia there is no proof that this was of the same Carman Fam. as the site is built upon. Now, I would like to like to quote from the frontpiece of a Long Island GENEALOGIES. (then there is a list of Surnames, "and other families being kindred descendants of Thomas Powell of Bethpate, L.I., 1688. Compiled by Mary Powell Bunker. a 1976 Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. Baltimore." A map opposite the title page is of West Hills Huntington Town Purchase and this map has many street/path names, many with surnames - a very interesting map! The surnames of the genealogies include the Families of Alberton, Andrews, Bedell, birdsall Bowne, CARMAN, Carr, Clowes, Cock, Cornelius, Covert, Dean, Doughty, Duryea, Feke, Frost, Haff, Hallock, Haydock, Hicks, Hopkins, Jackson, Jones, Keese, Ketcham, Kirby, Loines, Marvin, Merritt, Moore, Mott, Oakley, Onderdonck, Pearsall, Post, Powell, Prior, Robbins, Rodman, Rowland, Rushmore, Sands, Scudder, Seaman, Searing, Smith, Strickland, Titus, Townsend, Underhill, Valentine, Vanderdonk, Weeks, Whitman, Whitson, Willets, Williams, Willis, Wright, and other Families. The former is all QUOTED. I see that I added the name Gordon among that list from another source (I know not!). Now, there is something for everyone here, and here is your opportunity to push back that gen. if you can tie to one of these. I see some Dutch, not German, surnames among them. Weeks, probably was aka Wycks or Wyks, etc. as we are talking about New Amsterdam environs here. Don't write me about these surnames -it is ref. for me and ref for you to pursue but you can readily see that the Carman-Roots subscription might have something for you - just waiting for you to push back that fine genealogy of yours, or at least enlarge on it. I see the Scudder surname among them which is among the Lathrops of MY genealogy. The Carman Fam. gen is my wife's and she is NOT interested in any gen let along her excellent one. Nor is hardly any of the rest of the Fam. - they could care less. It is only WE who were innoculated and appreciate the finer things of our lives - history, people, especially OURS, with all the skeletons in and out of the closets! * * * You know, I keep thinking about Snohomish Cemetery - the people buried there - and their friends who were the Founders of Snohomish and their friends the Indians (whom we now call Native. Amers.) and the descendants who followed their paths, some of whom still live around here or around Puget Sound, or were scattered by wars, & other diversions, like w o r k . Some of these descendants are now having to go to court, just to protect Snohomish Cemetery where their loved ones were laid to rest. First there was the Hwy 2 by the State of WA which was done legally, it is believed; then came a phaque or replica pioneer village, or old Snohomish village built on the North portion of the Snohomish Cemetery as an attraction that is advertised visible for a fee - old buildings from around the area reassembled upon that portion of the Cemetery; then, there was the Sr. Center - another house/bulding placed on top of the Cemetery, with blacktop added for parking - all on top of the Cemetery. How does a city do all this when it is legally still a Cemetery - Snohomish Cemetery, even though it was more commonly called Indian Cemetery, or Pilchuck Cemetery by those who were familiar with it. The only legal invasion of the cemetery was the Hwy 2 cut through it in 1947. The Cemetery has not been undedicated legally to date. What would you think if this were happening to your cemetery, your ancestor's resting place. This was Snohomish's first cemetery - 1875, tho the land for it was offered in 1871. It is the only cemetery within the city limits of Snohomish, even today. It is on maps as a cemetery - even the Thomas maps. Averill Field is on maps of Snohomish, but there is no sign there, nor is there a plaque there denoting the site of Field named after Earl Averill, Baseball Hall of Fame, both owned by the City of Snohomish and lack the Honor and recognition that they deserve. The ornate Pioneer Landing with old time ferry motif sign on 2nd Street & Pine right across the street from Averill Field, but there is not one indication of the name of it because there is NO NAME, let along Plaque for that Field. At the corner of 2nd & Cypress on the Right side of the Hwy 2 cut just as you leave Snohomish toward Monroe, is Snohomish Cemetery - no sign for it - neglected - but the Snohomish Senior Center with blacktop sits ON TOP OF the SW large area of Snohomish Cemetery. The open area just East of the Senior Center is still a part of Snohomish Cemetery but the City wants that for a Youth Center. But, they need to get legal undedication of the Cemetery so that it is no longer a Cemetery before they can built that 6000 sq. ft Youth Center designated at that site. A bit crowded, but that is what is wanted out of Snohomish Cemetery which was originally 3 acres m/l. before the Hwy 2 got about an acre out of it, legally. We cares - we all would, if it were our ancestor's resting place, wouldn't we. Well, there are descendants who care about theirs and they need all the support they can muster to protect their ancestoral burial ground, also. Carroll of Snohomish. * * * 30 * * * _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]