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In Germany, old family researchers research only the surname of their family, so the help we've had with our Keinath family has only been with that surname. I nagged at my research partner who is so good with old German to research the allied names, which I've always done, and he has been able to add at least 1000 more people to these charts. I'm really sensitive about these old charts where they ignore women. I think it stinks! We wouldn't be here without women! BTW, back in 1650 Germany, one young man actually walked 16 kms. to the next village to find his wife. I think he heard somehow she was an only child and would inherit her parent's farm, which began the Onstmettingen Keinaths and all in America are from this one branch, from Claudius, the one who limps, who walked uphill to Onstmettingen. Cute story! Some of these people never left their village in 400 years! Norma Barbara Johnson wrote: > > Hello Diane, > > D. Hettrick wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > This was posted to another list - information the person had gotten > > from a genealogy seminar. - Diane > > _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* > > Thank you for posting the list! These research hints for our Female Ancestors > are most helpful! > > Also, for further information on researching female ancestors, and if you have > a desire to perpetuate the memory of a female ancestor, famous or not, you can > honor her by submitting her story to > > "Notable Women Ancestors" - > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nwa > > I have submitted one of mine and I am working on some others too. > > Sincerely, > > Barb Johnson > Seattle, Wa. > bejhart@earthlink.net

Is that Washington DC or Washington State?

Hello Diane, D. Hettrick wrote: > > Hi, > > This was posted to another list - information the person had gotten > from a genealogy seminar. - Diane > _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Thank you for posting the list! These research hints for our Female Ancestors are most helpful! Also, for further information on researching female ancestors, and if you have a desire to perpetuate the memory of a female ancestor, famous or not, you can honor her by submitting her story to "Notable Women Ancestors" - http://www.rootsweb.com/~nwa I have submitted one of mine and I am working on some others too. Sincerely, Barb Johnson Seattle, Wa. bejhart@earthlink.net

On Sun, 25 Oct 1998 redt34@mailexcite.com wrote: > Hello, > > We would like to offer you a 3 month free trial of Stocks For > Tomorrow ($59.00 value), which researchs small cap stocks. > We look for stocks that could move 100% or more in a year. Cyndi, It would seem that word is getting around that this is a place to send SPAM e-mail. I'm willing to just use my DELETE key so you don't have to block all stranges from posting. I seem to recall that you said it could be done but that it took more "overhead" on the server RootsWeb. John *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====* # John Wm Sloniker <johnwms@serv.net> Seattle, WA # # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*

My thanks to all on the list who took the time to bring me up to speed on the Washington death Index. I should've known it wouldn't be so simple. I had no idea it didn't start until the early 1900's, nor did I realize how difficult it was to use. Now I know and can turn to plan "B". Thanks Alan Alan A Sandercott Northern British Columbia Canada e-mail <asanderc@futurenet.bc.ca> Researching HOVING/NICHOLS/MILLER/BOWER/BAUER Sub-Lines Bower/Weed/Wright/Foster/Zehner/Hill/Zimmerman All input welcome ..... e-mail asanderc@mail.awinc.com

Hi, This was posted to another list - information the person had gotten from a genealogy seminar. - Diane _*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Having a hard time trying to find that maiden name of your gg-grandmother? Some hints that I observed at a recent Genealogy Workshop. Research and study case studies of proven (male) ancestors, they often married their first cousins. When possible, always go to the Original records/documents Follow Her Males, did they stay in that county or go to another state? Who did her brothers and sisters marry? Look at those neighbors very closely, males seldom married females that lived over five miles from their homes. More often it was the next house that they chose their wife from. Deeds... Always look at several pages before and after listings of deeds. Pay special attention to all those recorded the same day. Note other surnames that keep repeating often in deeds, plus "et al" which means "and others" Note males that are selling their interest in property, this just may be the father-in-law who has recently died. Note names of witnesses on wills and deeds, usually one is from the family of the female to protect her dower. This is not written in stone but very often true. Always track your females until dead and buried. Follow son-in-laws, sons, grandsons, and nephews. Track down all lines of a marriage, often the husband would marry as a second marriage, a sister of his wife, if she had died shortly after the marriage.

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Hi folks, Used to be you were safe from Halberts if you read the address - Bath, Ohio. Now they've changed. Read on. Diane in Shoreline ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They are up to their old tricks again! Watch Out for Halbert! Halbert's of Bath, Ohio, has come up with a new technique. They are now sending their advertisement for Family History Books from a Washington D.C. address. Halbert's is now using the name "US Information Burueau NUMA" (note the spelling of Bureau) 3220 N. St, NW Ste 1400 Washington D.C. (no zip code given) They are advertising a book regarding all the people with your surname in the Civil War. Do not be fooled. This is the same game, different cover. >From the Wake County Genealogical Society Fall 1998 and the Durham-Orange Genealogical Society Fall 1998

In a message dated 10/24/98 1:57:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, asanderc@mail.futurenet.bc.ca writes: << I need a big favor. Would someone out there with access to the Washington Death Index please check and see if any of the following are listed; James Daily MILLER (b1830) Minerva L MILLER (nee FIELDS b 1834) Samuel Miller (b abt 1810) Thomas Jefferson MILLER (b abt 1830) Charles S MILLER (b1865) >> Hi, If I'm not mistaken, the Washington Death Index is post-June 7, 1907...?? Pre-1907 is not easy to find deaths unless you know the county or city. Most records pre-1907 are kept at the town or county level. Cheryl Hawley

Anyone here have ancestors pass through Georgia? -- jws ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:44:42 EDT From: Joan Rose <JRose10700@AOL.COM> Subject: [IHF] Passports thru Georgia -- a bit of Indian lore Not to change the subject too drastically from Thunderbeings--- But here is an interesting little bit of American-Native American history that I picked up on another list and am passing on. It was in answer to my posting about how my forefathers may have come thru the South to get to Mississippi and Louisiana at the turn of the century -- the 19th Century. I had never heard of this before. And here is what I learned: >>> Georgia Passports - The State of Georgia in 1788 was on the frontier of the U.S. Numerous passports were issued for individuals to travel from GA through the Indian lands, specifically the Creek Indian Nation. Passports were granted only to those giving promise of good conduct while traveling through Indian country. The applicants were required to furnish references of good character from local officials or others in a position to vouch for them. (In some cases, the depositions survived but the actual passport did not). Authorities found it prudent to exercise caution in allowing travelers to enter the Creek Nation as it was important not to upset the balance of peace with the Indians. Travellers were required to obtain a passport from the Georgia Governor or the current Indiana Agent. The earlier passports found (1785) were recommendations for men to go into the Indian Nation to recover stolen horses or slaves or to collect debts. Later the object was to "view the country" with an eye toward moving there. Then they began to ask for passports to go as settlers. In 1809 and 1810 many passports were issued to citizens of North and South Carolina who were passing through GA in large groups with their families, their household goods on pack horses, their slaves, also their mothers-in-law and sisters-in-law, etc. The passports seemed almost to stop in 1813, only two were issued in 1816, two in 1817, one in 1810 and four in 1820. This was probably due to the fact that many of the Indians had become allies of England in the War of 1812 and it was dangerous to go through the Indian Nation. By the time it was safe to go through this area again, the last lands in Georgia were secured from the Indians and there was no need for passports. SOURCES: (1) National Genealogical Society #21 - "Passports Issued by Governors of Georgia 1785-1820" contributed by Mrs. Mary G. Bryan, Director, GA Dept. ARchives & History & Mrs. J.E. Hays, State Historian (2)Potter, Dorothy Williams - PASSPORTS OF SOUTHEASTERN PIONEERS 1770-1823, Gateway Press, Inc., Baltimore 1982 <<< love joan

This was very interesting John. Thanks for posting it. Evelyn

I need a big favor. Would someone out there with access to the Washington Death Index please check and see if any of the following are listed; James Daily MILLER (b1830) Minerva L MILLER (nee FIELDS b 1834) Samuel Miller (b abt 1810) Thomas Jefferson MILLER (b abt 1830) Charles S MILLER (b1865) Greatly appreciated. Alan Alan A Sandercott Northern British Columbia Canada e-mail <asanderc@futurenet.bc.ca> Researching HOVING/NICHOLS/MILLER/BOWER/BAUER Sub-Lines Bower/Weed/Wright/Foster/Zehner/Hill/Zimmerman All input welcome ..... e-mail asanderc@mail.awinc.com

Hi, folks -- I've solved the problem (in a manner of speaking) by locking EGROUPS.COM (aka MAKELIST.COM and FINDMAIL.COM) out of RootsWeb's mail server. You shouldn't see any more mail from them. Please don't continue to discuss the issue on the list -- it's just water under the bridge at this point. Thanks -- -- Regards, Tim Pierce RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative system obfuscator and hack-of-all-trades

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 Treehistn@aol.com wrote: > To the group: > > I just talked to Cyndi. The problem should have been taken care of > around 4am this morning. We shouldn't see anymore messages from eGroups > on the list. > The last one we have received was at 3:30 this morning. > > Please don't email the list about the problem.... Cyndi will make sure > that it is taken care of. > >From what I've seen this AM, I'm wondering if someone managed to ADD the address of @eGroups.com to the PSRoots-L subscriber addr list. That could be causing some of the trouble we're seeing. Has Cyndi checked for that? Only she can check the subscriber List. John You wanna discuss it? Try: INDIAN-HERITAGE discussion list *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====* # John Wm Sloniker <johnwms@serv.net> Seattle, WA # # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998, Dick Schweiss wrote: > From what I've read ... if the address is CASE SENSITIVE ... the L HAS > to be UPPER CASE ... as it is in the MAIL TO box/line > > Dick S. > Dick, e-mail addr are not case sensitive. Only the URL for web pages are case sensitive. John *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====* # John Wm Sloniker <johnwms@serv.net> Seattle, WA # # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*

>From what I've read ... if the address is CASE SENSITIVE ... the L HAS to be UPPER CASE ... as it is in the MAIL TO box/line Dick S. > > Fredi, the lower-case "L" in PSRoots-l isn't the problem. My display can > show the difference, as in 1998. >

Fredi & Cheryl, This has the return address for the USPERC list owner on "eGroups.com" Check the Forwarded message below. The USPERC List owner also has another addr on Juno and lives in Seattle. I even have his phone number if needed. Fredi, the lower-case "L" in PSRoots-l isn't the problem. My display can show the difference, as in 1998. jws in Seattle ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 23 Oct 1998 15:32:05 -0000 From: eGroups.com List Manager <usperc-owner@egroups.com> To: johnwms@serv.net Subject: eGroups.com List Manager SUBSCRIPTION Any user can subscribe or unsubscribe to this group by sending mail to: usperc-subscribe@egroups.com or usperc-unsubscribe@egroups.com POSTING MESSAGES Send mail to: usperc@egroups.com and your message will be posted, depending on the group's policies. CONTACTING THE GROUP MODERATOR Send mail to: usperc-owner@egroups.com and your message will forwarded to the moderator of the group. LEARNING MORE To learn more about the functions and options of free e-mail groups, go to http://www.eGroups.com. You'll find lots of information and answers to frequently asked questions at http://www.eGroups.com/info/help Best Wishes! The eGroups.com Team --- FREE Web-based e-mail groups! http://www.eGroups.com

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