In a message dated 11/13/98 10:33:28 AM Pacific Standard Time, clarkw7iml@juno.com writes: << From what I read, Pialschie, WA Territory was N and W of Auburn, WA. I wonder what it would be called today? Carroll in Snohomish. >> = = = = = = = = = = At a Kent, Washington "history" site, Pialschie is mentioned. "Other small schools were built in the outlying areas. These schools were generally spaced three miles apart to better accommodate the majority of children who walked to school. The Tanner School (1898) was located on the SE corner of 132nd and 240th. Springbrook School (1890's) was built on Talbot Road north of 200th. White River School was near the river on 212th. Many more schools were constructed around 1900 including Covington, Orillia, Ham, Swan Lake, O'Brien, Willis and Pialschie (Thomas) schools." The site is: http://www.kent.wednet.edu/curriculum/soc_studies/text/grade3/Kent_Hist/kent_h istbSaET.html Interesting write-up. Enjoy! = = = = = HOLTON-L List Owner The Rootbound Researcher * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ^ ^ Kitty (CURTIS) Martin Kent, Washington - - k9504m@aol.com Researching: CURTIS, GATES, HENSLEY, HOL(E)TON, JAMES; ZIEGLER, SWIFT, POLK, GREGORY, GRACE (etc.) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/8946/index.htm

Hi... i rec'd this from another list I am on and think it may prove helpful for some one out there...or at least you'll have fun trying to i.d. people. Diane in Shoreline dhettrick@earthlink.net -----Original message ---------- Can you identify these people? The Library of Congress has a collection of photos taken during the depression and WWII. They are seeking help. "Select State and Country Index to see arrangement by location. Unfortunately, most of the photos containing individuals do not identify them by name. There are still a fair number of people around who would recognize pictures of individuals from the depression and WWII era. Can you identify any of them in the locations which are most familiar to you? Or can you find friends or family of this generation that can identify them? If you do make a find, send a message to lcweb@loc.gov. " http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/fsaquery.html

Sorry to post to the List this way but could not find Marianne's e-mail address and besides what better way of "advertising" my page? Marianne, after telling you I would e-mail you my webpage I couldn't find your e-mail address. Anyhow, it can be seen at http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/savannah/252/homepage.htm Antoinette waughtel@oz.net

This is indeed marvelous news! I had just been checking out the cost of them and trying to figure out what kind of fundraising effort we could do in order to get one sooner than later. I can't tell you how happy I am! The addition of the microfilm printer should make HQ on the top of everyone's research lists! Yeah! Maudeen Maudeen@bainbridge.net Book Reviewer -www.Amazon.com Genealogy surnames: WEATHERLY, INMAN, NEELING, CAMERON, CHASE, HAUSER, ARNEY, ROARK, BLAIR, CRAWFORD, PURCELL, HAZLETT, HAISCH, WIPF, MILLIGAN, CRESWELL, STAHL, SCHULZ, HENDERSHOT, OLMSTEAD, SPEAR, COLE, LEE, STUCKEY, FAY, THOMAS, CROSS -----Original Message----- From: Gail Edwards-Petersen <WindEPete@worldnet.att.net> To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, November 13, 1998 6:47 PM Subject: SANTA VISITS HQRL EARLY >HQRL was given the best gift of all!!!! >Today, we received the Number 1 gift/need/want on the wish list of EVERY >HQRL >member/owner: >The Sumner LDS Family History Center generously donated to HQRL a Cannon PC >80 >MICROFILM PRINTER. We are very grateful and most excited!! (It works >Great!) > >THANK YOU, Sumner FHC, for this gracious gift. > >We now have a truly great library, with full access to all of our wonderful >film >and fiche. > >Come and enjoy Heritage Quest Research Library, 909 Main St, #5, Sumner, WA >253-863-1806 -- 7 days a week. > >Gail > > > > > >

>From the Washington death index I have located two deaths that pose possibility in my search. However, I don't need certified death certificates, nor am I certain that either are the correct person. Is there a way to determine what information is on the death certificate before I purchase a copy? I'm looking for a clue on the death certificate - for instance his birth state, (which I have) - to check to see if the deceased is the same man I'm looking for. Can any of you help with suggestions how to pursue this? Thanks - Bev beverlyp@wcn.net or LadyeCloud@aol.com Ancestors in the Attic http://ladyecloud.hypermart.net/Ancestors.htm Member Association of Professional Genealogists http://www.apgen.org Yaquina Chapter DAR http://www.rootsweb.com/~oryaqdar/Yaquina.htm

How does one go about securing a Revolutionary War record from Vermont? I have the person, the date of the battle. Evelyn at JOHuffER@aol.com. Thanks.

I have gone to Elma and gotten copies of death certificates. Haven't been there lately. They don't have all counties, all years, but they have most. Is there anyone on the list that is in Gray's Harbor that could go to Elma for her? Evelyn

Hi, I am wondering where you are located ? I am also wondering what years of death you are inquiring about. The only way I know of how to do what you are asking for is the Elma Family History Center has a roll of film that has ACTUAL death certificates < You almost must have the death certificate number from the WA state death index, date of death, name, etc. > for a certain number of years. I do not live near Elma, but someone else may be able to help you. Hope this helps, at least a little :-) Ginger

I'm in search of some kind soul who will find an obituary for me. I don't know what newspaper to search in. But I do have a date and city.. Name: Emily Kanouse Death Date: May 10, 1938 City: Kapowsin, Pierce County Washington I would appreciate any help, Tim Chambers lzdz4me@interaccess.com

Hi everyone, Heritage Quest Research Librarys next class is today, 14 Nov -- have you signed up yet. Janet Baccus, fellow member/owner and member of TPCGS will give a class on: "Getting Started On Your Family Tree Research". 9:00 to 11:00 AM; Cost $10.00 per person. For more information call: HQRL at 253-863-1806. Our address is: 909 Main Street, #5, Sumner, WA. (next to KC Caboose). PS: While you are at the library -- try our GREAT Early Christmas present -- our micro-film/micro-fiche reader/printer Gail Gail

Someone I talked to at Fiske was concentrating on NICHOLS. Was it Carolyn Blount? This person usually has a table at the Fiske Genealogical Faire. Anyone local know who I'm talking about? Diane in Shoreline dhettrick@earthlink.net Tracy L. wrote: > > Hello all. > > Hoping to find some long lost cousins out there. > Searching for descendents of James and Cyrus HOLMES, who > both lived in WA from about > 1904 until thier deaths. (see dates below) > > General info- > Cyrus Holmes and his wife Emma NICHOLS moved out to WA about 1904 and > had lumber mill in the Everson area. I know of only one child, Avis, and > do not know if they had any other children. > Cyrus was living in South Bend by 1923, when his brother James died. No > other info on Cyrus and Emma. > > Tracefam@hotmail.com

Gail, Do you have need of a microfiche viewer? I have one that has been sitting under my desk collecting dust for a year or so. You can have it if you can use it. George Lowe Gail Edwards-Petersen wrote: > HQRL was given the best gift of all!!!! > Today, we received the Number 1 gift/need/want on the wish list of EVERY > HQRL > member/owner: > The Sumner LDS Family History Center generously donated to HQRL a Cannon PC > 80 > MICROFILM PRINTER. We are very grateful and most excited!! (It works > Great!) > > THANK YOU, Sumner FHC, for this gracious gift. > > We now have a truly great library, with full access to all of our wonderful > film > and fiche. > > Come and enjoy Heritage Quest Research Library, 909 Main St, #5, Sumner, WA > 253-863-1806 -- 7 days a week. > > Gail > > > >

HQRL was given the best gift of all!!!! Today, we received the Number 1 gift/need/want on the wish list of EVERY HQRL member/owner: The Sumner LDS Family History Center generously donated to HQRL a Cannon PC 80 MICROFILM PRINTER. We are very grateful and most excited!! (It works Great!) THANK YOU, Sumner FHC, for this gracious gift. We now have a truly great library, with full access to all of our wonderful film and fiche. Come and enjoy Heritage Quest Research Library, 909 Main St, #5, Sumner, WA 253-863-1806 -- 7 days a week. Gail

Hello all. Hoping to find some long lost cousins out there. Searching for descendents of James and Cyrus HOLMES, who both lived in WA from about 1904 until thier deaths. (see dates below) General info- Cyrus Holmes and his wife Emma NICHOLS moved out to WA about 1904 and had lumber mill in the Everson area. I know of only one child, Avis, and do not know if they had any other children. Cyrus was living in South Bend by 1923, when his brother James died. No other info on Cyrus and Emma. James Holmes and his wife Lena lived in the Blaine area. They had 4 known children- Erick Holmes, Mrs Harry Nielson, Lee Holmes and Florence Holmes. Names obtained from James' 1923 obit. Lee Holmes recieved his 8th grade diploma in 1921 in Blaine. Have found some references of (who I believe is) Erick Holmes in a 1948 diary, living near Concrete with a Cecille and Jo. (wife and son perhaps?) James and Cyrus were followed to WA by a sister, their father, and a brother. Myrtle Holmes and husband Charles THOMAS (my grandparents) came to Lynden about 1910, later joined by father Alex Holmes. Guy Holmes lived for about 25 years in Easton PA before moving to Lynden about 1940. Here is Alex and all his children. Alex HOLMES was born Sep 8, 1835 in Washburn, ME, died Jul 1, 1921 in Blaine, WA. He married (1) Margery ELLIOTT. He married (2) Jane NICHOLS (sister of Cyrus's wife Emma) daughter of Steven NICHOLS and Lois RAFFORD. Children of Alex HOLMES and Margery ELLIOTT are: James W. b. Jun 10, 1860, Washburn, ME; d. 1923, S.Bend, WA; Cyrus E. b. Jul 1, 1863, ME; d. May 10, 1933, WA; Florence, b. Abt. 1874. Margaret b. Abt. 1876. Children of Alex HOLMES and Jane NICHOLS are: Guy, b. May 14, 1885, Washburn, ME; d. May 7, 1952, Bellingham, WA; Myrtle Estelle, b. Apr 22, 1888, Washburn, ME; d. Mar 2, 1956, Bellingham, WA; Elliott b. Abt. 1880; Jenny b. Abt. 1880; Ruth b. Abt. 1880; Lewis A. b. Abt. 1880; If anyone out there sees a connection with these names, I would love to hear from you. Tracy in Sedro- Woolley Tracefam@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hello all - I just arrived in Dallas and I am testing my laptop on the projector at the theater here. I just read some of the e-mail posted by June and I have made a decision. I have removed June from the PSRoots list and I have put her e-mail addres on the reject list. This means that she will not be able to post to our list any longer. I regret having to take such action and I am very unhappy that I was put in this position. I wish that my first note, as the official list owner for this mailing list, would have sufficed. I had asked that we discontinue the conversation. From the few messages I received at this address today after I subscribed, it appears that isn't the case. I haven't seen all the messages and won't see them until I get home to my regular computer and e-mail address. I'm hoping that they won't scare me too much once I read them. I apologize to those of you who were offended and had problems in trying to communicate your feelings to the participants in this conversation. Please try to ignore the past conversation and let's all move on with the business at hand - our genealogical research online. Thanks for your patience and understanding, Cyndi P.S. Why is it that things like this happen when I go out of town? Hopefully everything else will go smoothly from this point on.

On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 jb21@juno.com wrote: > How can I help but tell of the glorious liberty purchased for me by our > forefathers whose only joy was to give glory to God. I suppose you ditch > your Christian forefathers as fanatics, but I promise they were preached That's all I needed to know that you were preaching. I don't need it. John You wanna discuss it? Try: INDIAN-HERITAGE discussion list *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====* # John Wm Sloniker <johnwms@serv.net> Seattle, WA # *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*

Had I conceived that my VETERAN'S DAY 1998 would elicit such controversy, I would never have uttered it. Let there be peace, tranquility and no more viciousness. This is NOT the time nor place for such. SQUELCH! * * * Genealogy: Maria Julia Smith - Mrs. Thomas Moody Alvord Father- Horace Smith b.27 Feb 1801, d 8 Aug 1862 m. Harriet Otis b. 10 ?Dec 1803 d 14 Apr 1840. Children: Lorang (sp.?) b. Mar 1826 d Apr 1834 Joseph R. aka Russell J. Smith, probate WA St Archives, never m. d young, had DLC loc in Olympia, Thurston Co., WA buried in WA State). Harriet E. b. Jan 1829 d. ___ Mary C. b. Dec 1830 d June 1908 Maria Julia b Sept 1832 d Jan 1912, Kent, WA, King Co Horace T. b Apr 1834 Had lived in Pialchie. then Seattle - Died in New York State _ Rev. Rollin C. Smith b. Aug 1834 Had lived, farmed & preached in Pialschie. He was a Pioneer Minister of Northwest History and recorded in many history books of the NW. Levi b 21 Apr 1840, Syracuse, N.Y. Had also lived and farmed in Pialschie. Later moved to Yakima, WA. Probably died there. He m. Mar 11, 1868 Hannah MICHAEL CLARK , d.o. Jason S(quire) Clark, at White River, King Co., WA Territory, now Kent, WA. Horrace remarried 2)Clarissa Reynolds, date unknown). Fred H. b. July 1851 Lived and died in New York State __. If anyone knows about Pialschie,Washington Territory, it would be appreciated. Thank you. ALVORD GENEALOGY Alexander Alvord b Bridgeport, ENG m. 1646 Mary Vore, Windsor CT Thomas Alvord b. Windsor CT 1653 m 1681 Joanna Taylor, Windsor, CT, 1655 Thomas Alvord b. 1683 m 1705 1) Esther Parson, d 1706 m 1708 2) Mary Strong Asahel Alvord m. 1741 Rachel Gould Thomas GOULD Alvord b 1742 Durand, CT m. Kazia Orvis, b. 1742, d 1796 m. 2)Hanah Byington in Homer, NY. Ebenezer Alvord b. 1767, Farmington, CT m. Rachel Crompton, ___prob. Farmington CT Sylvester Alvord b 1796 Homer, NY m. Lucy Hall b.1796 dau of Moody & Lois __ Hall, from whom the name Moody comes. Thomas MOODY Alvord b. 1832, Feb 26 Homer, Courtland, Co., N.Y. d 1918 m. 1859 MARIA JULIA SMITH of Spafford, N.Y., near Homer, NY. she d. 1912 sister to the SMITH CHILDREN listed above. If- Mrs. Katharyn Alvord Perkins Mrs. Barbara Alvord McGhee Dr. Elsworth Alvord, Jr. are available, I would like to contact them. Info re Irving T. Alvord Elisha Henry Alvord Peter Saar & Saar Fam. Hopkins Lumber Co. >From what I read, Pialschie, WA Territory was N and W of Auburn, WA. I wonder what it would be called today? Carroll in Snohomish. I have a lot of e-mail stating that they wish everyone would include their location as it does prove valuable to persons reading the postings. Most are well acquainted, but in the deluge of info that we sift, including the town, city, loc in each Topic would help many to make better communications. It is just a suggestion that has been mentioned quite a number of times among genealogists. * * * 30 * * * ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

How can I help but tell of the glorious liberty purchased for me by our forefathers whose only joy was to give glory to God. I suppose you ditch your Christian forefathers as fanatics, but I promise they were preached to and embraced by the circuit riders who gave them their blessings of hope and prosperity. Shame on you for deleting the Name of the Lord, for He is the Only One that gives liberty. I suppose your new-age "sharing" means opinions, but "forcing religious rhetoric" is declaring the Word of God as true. You will see whether it is religious rhetoric. In eternity our ancestors will praise me, but you will be forgotten because you are like those that hated Lorenzo Dow. Perhaps you have some relatives named after him. He was a very famous Methodist circuit rider. When he got the kind of treatment you have given to this American in Jacksboro, Georgia, he cursed the town. One man, a Mr. Goodall, treated him with respect. The town was gone after a year and only Mr. Goodall's house was spared. There is a historical marker near where this wicked town formerly WAS. I do hope we have some Mr. Goodall's listening. For God is the Same, Yesterday, and Forever. You and your friends will no longer be able to leave the Lord out of our American history. It is pouring forth like sweet water for a dying multitude who are looking for the Providences and Strength which George Washington and James Madison sang about in Isaac Watts Divine & Moral Songs, one of their hymn books. You are so high and mighty, I suppose you know what songs they sung. This also is part of my geneaological research, as well as the patriotic numbers that gave them the impetus to wipe up the floor with tories. American history is replete with the glory of God; my house runs over with it, from the 1822 History of the United States by Rev. Charles Goodrich (the historian of Massachusetts) who couldn't tell lies in history books because he knew liars went to hell when they died to the 1620 account called Pilgrims Free Themselves from Communism: Establish Free Enterprise, recorded by the great and good Governor Wm. Bradford. You are granted some grace because of your ignorance of our history, and I, too, was once so ignorant being brought up in public schools, yet I knew something as great as the United States couldn't come about by itself and when I heard of its origin and the prayers of our God-fearing ancestors, I would have made a special room for one like myself to come and tell me all about it, instead of "deleting them from the list." They would have been fed at my table and I would have kissed their feet for saving my soul from humanistic interpretations and evolution's stupid explanations. Leave the list if you like, but it will cost you more than you can calculate now. Better think it over. I daresay this list is not so filled with infidels as you would like to think. As a matter of fact, American genealogy is bound to run you head-on with the Saviour perpetually. To deny it is blindness and stubbornness. One last comment. As for shoving things down one's throat, when the public schools and their Freud-Darwin-Marx theories pay their own and do not demand I pay for them, when the universities get their hand out of the grant machine that also robs taxpayers to shove socialism's religious tenets down our throats, when social security is made voluntary and I see all that volunteer to do get a full rebate with interest at the rate the IRS would charge you, and when all the cowards who move their plants oversees to avoid conflict with the IRS and their tax-exempt shelters are shut down while they jail tax protestors for the same thing our ancestors fought against, a wicked and corrupt religion of atheistic Communism, then we'll talk about freedom from religion. It usually happens that the free-thinkers and infidels always have some inroads to public money and certainly are not for everyone controlling their life, their charity, and their property. June Griffin Representative of God and the Bible in Tennessee Campbell v. Sundquist, 1994 On Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:29:59 EST JMCordone@aol.com writes: >I have been on the list for a long time. I have always enjoyed the >e-mails >until recently. I do not think it appropriate to evangelize on this >mailing >list. There is a big difference with sharing ones feelings and >forcing >religious rhetoric. > >June if you continue to do this I will leave the list because I do not >have >time for your non-genealogical messages. I however would be happy to >hear >about your genealogical exploits. I put this message to the list >rather than >you directly because I am not the only one who is not interested in >your >religious view point. It is not appropriate for this list! >Jill M. Cordone > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Carroll, re: Alvord A Patty Alvord played the organ at my son's wedding at the First Free Methodist Church in Olympia 5 years ago. There are four Alvord's listed in the Olympia phone book. The church number is: 360-357-7456. They may be able to put you in touch with Patty. If you want the other numbers, let me know. Evelyn

I have been on the list for a long time. I have always enjoyed the e-mails until recently. I do not think it appropriate to evangelize on this mailing list. There is a big difference with sharing ones feelings and forcing religious rhetoric. June if you continue to do this I will leave the list because I do not have time for your non-genealogical messages. I however would be happy to hear about your genealogical exploits. I put this message to the list rather than you directly because I am not the only one who is not interested in your religious view point. It is not appropriate for this list! Jill M. Cordone