Hi Sue, Thank You for responding. I wasn't sure what sort of indexes were available. Is there a birth index, too? The microfiche I had was unreadable. I suppose it will be replaced after I showed it to them. Thank you, Diane

Hi Cyndi & all, The librarians also have a Virginia mailing list which, when I left it a year and a half ago, had 5,000 subscribers. They were a very serious, scholarly, and quite awesome lot, and the librarians maintained Very Strict Order. The web site was incredible then, with scanned images of original records and index card collections. Their scope is old Virginia, so geographically it is far larger than the current state. Diane Hettrick dhettrick@earthlink.net Cyndi Howells wrote: > > Hi all - > I'm forwarding the message below for those of you who have an > interest in Virginia. If you haven't yet visited the Library of > Virginia online, make sure you do today. They have a tremendous > site with many online images of documents. > > Good luck, > Cyndi > >Jean Marie Taylor > >Digital Library Programs > >Collection Management Services Division > >The Library of Virginia > >800 East Broad Street (voice) (804) 692-3764 > >Richmond, Virginia 23219 (fax) (804) 692-3771 > >http://www.vsla.edu (e-mail) jmtaylor@vsla.edu

The Washington state death index is available through your local LDS Family History Center. Sue Foster Director FHC Puyallup Washington South Stake

Just an FYI to everyone here: The message posted below to PSRoots and previously posted on OHROOTS, is a copy of an article written by our own Myra Vanderpool Gormley, a syndicated newspaper columnist. The column appears in more than 21 newspapers nationwide and also on the Ancestry web site: http://www.ancestry.com/columns/myra/index.htm http://www.ancestry.com/columns/myra/Shaking_Family_Tree06-04-98.htm Whoever first posted this (not you Rose, but the original person on the other list) and began forwarding it by e-mail to thousands of other people should be advised that this violates US copyright law. It is illegal to copy articles such as this and post them without permission of the author and copyright holder. Since Myra's name was left off and there was no notation as to where the article came from, I can assume that the people who have forwarded the article since that time were unaware of the origins of the article. From what I understand of copyright law, being ignorant of the origins doesn't always hold us harmless. I'm not telling you all that to frighten you, but to help educate each of us about the circumstances. Keep these things in mind whenever you decide to send messages via e-mail (mailing lists or private) 1. If copying something from another mailing list, another person or from a web site, ask permission to copy and forward the information before you do so. 2. If possible, describe the information briefly, then supply a web site URL (address) and point the readers to the original source, rather than repeating it yourself. 3. Always give the author credit and cite the source of the material. Supply the book's title, the author's name, the publication date, the web site title, the web site URL, the web site publication date, etc. Hope you all find this information useful, Cyndi P.S. The definitely applies to copies of newspaper articles being posted here. Summarize the articles, then point us to the web site online so we can read the original for ourselves. At 11:36 AM 11/23/98 -0800, you wrote: >Here's something fun I wanted to share that I found on the >OHROOTS-L mailList: > > SCHOOLMARMS ON THE FRONTIER > >GO WEST YOUNG MAN-was also heeded by a virtually unnoticed group of >women. > >Nearly 600 single young women from Northern New England and upper New >York State, sponsored by the National Board of Popular Education, >participated in the Westward Migration in the decade following 1846. It >is estimated that probably close to a thousand single women teachers >journeyed from the East to teach in the West and South before the Civil >War. > >EVEN earlier in the 1830s, 88 teachers from Zipah Grant's Female >Seminary in Ipswich, Mass. answered the call to start schools in the >West and South. > >Grant established an association in 1835 to lend money to teachers who >wish to train at Ipswich for teaching positions in the West. Her plan, >combining specific training and financial aid with placement in the >West, is said to have been a model for the National Board's program a >decade later. > >IT is not unusual for a genealogist to discover an ancestor who was a >teacher "out west." Then out west may have been Ohio, Michigan, >llinois, Indiana or Missouri in the early 19th century. Although the >women sent by the National Board pledged to teach for only two years in >the West, a search revealing the subsequent lives on nearly 40 percent >of the teachers shows that 2/3 rds. of them made a permanent transition >from East to West. A majority of them made homes in growing towns from >Indiana west to the border of Nebraska Territory, and a few became >pioneer settlers of Oregon and California. > >NEARLY 80 percent of the women teachers who have been traced married >and >became pioneer settlers. Those who remained single either continued to >teach or worked in the developing social-service professions. >Several of >the pioneer teachers responded to the call to teach the newly freed >men, >women, and children in the South in the 1860s. > >THE picture painted of the schoolmarm from the East-moral, >self-sacrificing, discreet, dedicated to the welfare of children, >capable of bringing out the best in men and unconcerned with personal >goals or needs-is, of course, a stereotype. Letters, reminiscences >and a >diary of women teachers who traveled to teach on the western frontiers >before the Civil War are extant, and these documents tell remarkable >stories. Manuscripts pertaining to nearly 200 such women survive and >are the basis of an engaging book called "WOMEN TEACHERS ON THE >FRONTIER," by Polly Welts Kaufman. There are pictures of the teachers, >and maps and pictures of the old schoolhouses. There is also a list of >women, when and where born, places they taught, names of their husbands >and when and where they died. > >-- > \\\|/// > \\ ~ ~ // > ( @ @ ) > -oOOo-(_)-oOOo- >Rose CAUDLE TERRY, Washington state >BILYEU Listowner/Listmother (genealogical) & Proud RootsWeb Sponsor >RMTerry@prodigy.net or cxwp57@prodigy.com >http://www.genealogy.bilyeu.com/

Here's something fun I wanted to share that I found on the OHROOTS-L mailList: SCHOOLMARMS ON THE FRONTIER GO WEST YOUNG MAN-was also heeded by a virtually unnoticed group of women. Nearly 600 single young women from Northern New England and upper New York State, sponsored by the National Board of Popular Education, participated in the Westward Migration in the decade following 1846. It is estimated that probably close to a thousand single women teachers journeyed from the East to teach in the West and South before the Civil War. EVEN earlier in the 1830s, 88 teachers from Zipah Grant's Female Seminary in Ipswich, Mass. answered the call to start schools in the West and South. Grant established an association in 1835 to lend money to teachers who wish to train at Ipswich for teaching positions in the West. Her plan, combining specific training and financial aid with placement in the West, is said to have been a model for the National Board's program a decade later. IT is not unusual for a genealogist to discover an ancestor who was a teacher "out west." Then out west may have been Ohio, Michigan, llinois, Indiana or Missouri in the early 19th century. Although the women sent by the National Board pledged to teach for only two years in the West, a search revealing the subsequent lives on nearly 40 percent of the teachers shows that 2/3 rds. of them made a permanent transition from East to West. A majority of them made homes in growing towns from Indiana west to the border of Nebraska Territory, and a few became pioneer settlers of Oregon and California. NEARLY 80 percent of the women teachers who have been traced married and became pioneer settlers. Those who remained single either continued to teach or worked in the developing social-service professions. Several of the pioneer teachers responded to the call to teach the newly freed men, women, and children in the South in the 1860s. THE picture painted of the schoolmarm from the East-moral, self-sacrificing, discreet, dedicated to the welfare of children, capable of bringing out the best in men and unconcerned with personal goals or needs-is, of course, a stereotype. Letters, reminiscences and a diary of women teachers who traveled to teach on the western frontiers before the Civil War are extant, and these documents tell remarkable stories. Manuscripts pertaining to nearly 200 such women survive and are the basis of an engaging book called "WOMEN TEACHERS ON THE FRONTIER," by Polly Welts Kaufman. There are pictures of the teachers, and maps and pictures of the old schoolhouses. There is also a list of women, when and where born, places they taught, names of their husbands and when and where they died. -- \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) -oOOo-(_)-oOOo- Rose CAUDLE TERRY, Washington state BILYEU Listowner/Listmother (genealogical) & Proud RootsWeb Sponsor RMTerry@prodigy.net or cxwp57@prodigy.com http://www.genealogy.bilyeu.com/

Hi Cyril, Thank You for responding. I live in Louisiana. There is nothing about the west in our library. The FHC had a microfiche but it was unreadable. Thank You, Diane H

Hi all, Is there a death index for Washington? How do I access it? Thank You, Diane

Carroll H Clark wrote: > Snohomish TRIBUNE Wed Nov 18, 1998 P4, Opinion Letters to the Editor > QUOTED IN FULL as follows: > Youth center will be further insult to those interned in cemetery > To the editor: > It is, to me, immoral for the people of Snohomish to use the resting > > place of our pioneers by desecrating their graves with buildings and > black top, and with further desecration, to be, with a youth center. > I > can't understand why a city with a strong historical organization > could > want to save all the old shacks and slum buildings in Snohomish, but > be > unconcerned abouty our pioneers' resting place. > If the senior center is to stay in place, it should at least be > their > and the City's duty to dedicate the now remaining property to our > pioneers buried there, with a garden that is well kept, by the senior > center and the Historical Society, and to further honor them with a > memorial at the entrance to the garden. > The Son of a Pioneer, > George W. Huff > Snohomish > END OF QUOTE from the Tribune Letters to the Editor section. > A correction to Snohomish School District address was corrected to: > http://www.premier1.net/~barkonwd/school/SNOSCHLS.HTM > The web page can also be accessed from "infoseek" or "altaVista" > search > engines by typing in: "Snohomish School District" (IN QUOTES). > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at > http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Dear Clark and all: I am so elated to read the letter to the editor of the Snohomish Tribune written by George W. Huff. Wasn't this man a City Commissioner? How much power does he still have? Could this mean that the tide has turned in the town? Love it! Carolynn Crawford P.S. I still would like to know if this is one of your relatives, Evelyn.

At 07:25 PM 11/18/98 -0500, you wrote: >Arnold: >According to the TPCGS roster Donna Mullen's email is : mullen@oz.net. >Maxine > Thanks Maxine. I have been experimenting with mailboxes in my E-mail program and i just found your unanswered message in one of the mail boxes. Sorry it's so late. I do appreciate getting Donna's address. Arnold on Fidlago Island near La Conner

I would like to obtain photocopy of obituary for the following person: Name: Elizabeth Robertson Died: March 8, 1957 Place: Monroe, Snohomish County Your help will be appreciated. Cyril Taylor Port Orchard ctaylor@krl.org

Seeking photocopy of obituary for the following person: Name: Rankin Robertson Died: May 31, 1922 Place: Monroe, Snohomish County Your help will be appreciated. Cyril Taylor Port Orchard, Washington ctaylor@krl.org

Wendy mentioned the Old Soldiers Home in Orting. My Grandparents Charles and Clorene Sours were there during the 1970s. They both passed away while living there. I personally did not have the privilege of visiting there but my parents did and they said it was a wonderful place. My Dad thought the people who worked there were outstanding and he always took the nurses boxes of candy when he would visit. My Grandmother made a lot of very nice ceramics while she was there which I have sitting on my shelves. Gerrie

While at Burlington, WA at their Mall, just N a short distance from the Outlets there, I spotted a KINSEY LOCOMOTIVES CALENDAR $12.95 +tx, 1998 D. Kinsey Collection, Whatcom Museum of History and Art, Bellingham, WA by Pomegranate Cat #99090. Among the photos of steam locos. were 2 or 3 showing trestles for the person(s) interested in the trestles, and or Kinsey photographic expertise as related to RR memorabilia. These calendars may be available other calendar sources around the NW, but this is the first I have seen since the interest was shown in Kinsey photography on PSR, recently. Of course a book of Kinsey RR photography would be even more desirable, such as was found at Costco, recently, as reported. Carroll in Snohomish - who enjoys RR nostalgia, as it was a part of Fam. history, and Photography of excellent detail and lens expertise such as Kinsey exhibited in his eye for excelled photographic processing. * * * 30 * * * ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Picked up 2 newer brochures at local handout: 1. The Cith of SNOHOMISH WALKING TOUR GUIDE pub. by Snohomish Chamber of Commerce 1989. A description, with Quotes from it is as follows. Front cover titled Pioneer Village (which I understand has been changed to Old Snohomish Village. An outdoor museum loc. at approx. 2nd. and Pine portion of Snohomish Cemetery the N where the Village is, while the S portion of the Cem. & Sr Ctr are 2nd & Cypress.). The cover has sketches of 5 of the bldgs. that rest on the N portion of the Cem. at the outdoor museum site. & the artist that did an excellent reproduction of them is signed LOMAS. Unfolding the brochure is an excellent 11 x 12 group of 7 homes sketched by LOMAS. These sketches depict tye types of architecture found among Snohomish Hist. homes: Each type is named, and has a description of each type, but I won't include all of that info, just the names. They are-( QUOTED IN PART)- Queen Anne ( a less elaborate version of it is known as Princess Anne. Craftsman Bungalow (Bldg materials are "natural" favoring fieldstone, brick and wood shingles.) English Cottage Revival (Usujally brick, steep roofline, w little or no overhang. Colonial Revival (Built in late Victorian Era. Some are also known as "Classic Box". American Homestead (2 story, rectangular plan & gabled roof). Dutch Colonial Revival (Distinctive gambrel roof, obviously. Often have long shed dormers to increase 2nd floor space.). American Foursquare (2 story, boxlike shape, topped by low hipped roof, etc. Styled to provide the most space for the money.) Back of brochure QUOTED AS FOLLOWS: WELCOME TO SNOHOMISH . . . a genuinely historic community listed on both the State and National Registries of Historic Places. Founded in 1859, Snohomish miraculously avoided the mid-20th century trend of destroying historical character in original, commercial and residential cores. Snohomish has maintained an enviable inventory of late 19th and early 20th Century architecture reflecting the character of the town as it was. The formation of the Snohomish Historical Society in 1969, and the support of Snohomish City Government and the Chamber of Commerce, defined Snohomish as a community dedicated to influencing its future by preserving its past. Enjoy your walking tour and may it be the first of many visits here. Welcome! (accompanied by a map -there are 3 maps in all in the brochure.) History of Snohomish, QUOTED AS FOLLOWS (Founded 1859) Snohomish's "founding father' E.C. Ferguson arrived here with a small stock of goods for sale to the few settlers and remainiang Native Americans. Ferguson had selected this site based on the Army's plans to construct a military road between Fort Steilacoom and Fort Bellingham along a route which would have crossed the Snohomish River here. The Marshland Road, south of the river, was originally part of the Military Road. (The cow path, meandering road that crosses the valley floor called the Marsh at the foot of Seattle Hill Rd. at Larimar's Corner-CC.). Although the road was never completed, Ferguson remained to become a prominent businessman and politician. He was joined by other entrepreneurs, tradesmen and laborers attracted by the logging and milling opportunities. The nearby river (Snohomish River- CC) provided transportation for logs, goods, and people. In 1861, Snohomish County was established (out of Island County-CC) with the City of Snohomish as the county seat. In 1897 the county seat was moved to Everett. In 1888, the 800 people living here put up $2,700 to insure the right-of-way for construction of a railroad line into town. By 1890, the population was 1,995 and grew to 3,000 by 1895. (When I was kid in about 1932, '33, the sign entering the city limits of Snohomish from Everett, read 2,500 - 3,000 population- CC.). Most of the homes and commercial buildings listed on the walking tour were built by that generation. Agricultural development was encouraged by the addition of the railroad system which provided rapid transportation for perishable products, and by the introduction of an electric lighting system established in 1889. In 1989, the population of the City of Snohomish is 5,900. The population of the community, defined by the boundaries of the school district, is approximately 30,000. Origins of Our Name "Snohomish" is the English spelling of the Indian word, "Sdah-hob-mish." There is a wide choice of meanings for the word or phrase, among them being, "The Warriors," "The Braves," "The Men," etc. (When I was a kid here, one of the meanings of Snohomish was "quiet waters"-CC.). Some authorities maintain that the translation is "Name-Banded-Together-Tribe." Whatever the meaning of the word, we do know that the Snohomish People, from whom our town derived its name, occupied large sections of the valley lands from Puget Sound to the foothills of the Cascades. They were a peaceful, home-loving tribe and lived in bands of highly cultured family groups. They traded with the Upriver People as well as the Mountain tribes and the Fish Indians of the Coast. Historical Quotes "Snohomish City, the present county seat, is situated `1 miles above the mouth of the Snohomish River and is one of the most lively little towns on the Sound. The people are principally from the New England states, well educated and energetic almost to a faul." Snohomish Northern Star, 12/30/1876 "The streets are uniformly wide, laid out in a pleasing manner and are well tended. For the greater portion of the year, handsosme, well-kept lawns and profusion of flowers greet the eye upon every hand. Nearly all the residences' kits are provided with fruit trees and ornamental shade trees." Tribune supplement, 1902. The bal. of the bruchure consists of A Walk Through Snohomish History listing 75 points of interest that are described, and accompanied by a map of the city streets in Snohomish with the 75 points of interest shown on the map. #75. is the Pioneer Village Museum 2nd & Pine (In Pilchuck Shopping Center) The Village contains an 1875 log cabin, an 1889 Pioneer home, 1902 Victorian cottage, 1910 general store, weavers shop and blacksmith shop. Part of original Snohomish Cemetery on land donated by pioneer Mary Sinclair in 1876, first non-native woman to take up permanent residency in Snohomish. END OF QUOTED PORTIONS, except for my comments as indicated by "-CC."). Pioneer Village Museum above has been, for some reason, renamed Old Snohomish Village Museum. There is a fee for adults, and children usually at the entrance and again at the log cabin for visitors, which has been increased 50 cents per person from former admission fees. The fee for admission is not mentioned in the brochure. ANOTHER BROCHURE, Snohomish County N.W. Washington State The Official 1998 Guide is a thicker booklet made available by Everett Area Convention & Visitor Bureau. Home Page: www.snobiz.org. Another page Snohomish County Tourism Bureau gives as its website: www.snohomish.org for up to the minute travel information. QUOTING PARTS PERTAINING TO HISTORY are as follows: Historic Perspective Long before the first white man appeared on the eastern shore of Puget Sound, Native American tribes (the Snohomish, Stilla-guamish, Snoqualmie, Skykomish, Sultan, Pilchuck) inhabited this area and traveled its waters by canoe. Tjhe native peoples lived in family groups in cedar longhouses and moved up land down the rivers from ocean to mountains in hand-hewn dugout canoes. They had a highly developed culture based on fishing or salmon and foraging for other foods found naturally in the densely forested land. Superb salmon runs, sea mammals, wildlife, and forests provided for all their material and spiritual needs. Medern anthropologists consider these people who lived on the Pacitif coast among the wealthiest tribes in all of America, other than the Aztecs, This great natural wealth also attracted the first Europeans. In 1792, Captain George Vancouver saled the tall ship Discovery into this region, to claim the Pacific Northwest on behalf of King George III. Vancouver and his crew charted this region and named many of the bodies of water he explored, including Puget Sound and Port Gardener Bay, opening the way for European expl;oration and development. White settlement of the region that bacame snohomish county was carved out of Island County on January 20, 1861, and grew slowly during the territorial years of 1853-1889. During this time period, settlements were founded at Tulalip Bay, Snohomish, Mukilteo, Lowell, Tualco (near Monroe), Stanwood, and Edmonds. Soon after Washington achieved statehood in 1889, The Great Northern Railway brought a major boom down the Skykomish Valley to the new industrial city of Everett. Etc. END OF QUOTED PORTION OF THIS BROCHURE about the early history of Snohomish City as a part of the early Snohomish County history. * * * 30 * * * ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Larry: In the 1888 R. L. Polk Puget Sound Directory in Tacoma there are listings as follows: Banta Isaac T., labor, res n s S 19th 1 w of Yakima Ave Banta, J. J. bds Villard House Edwards, George, tailor, 1121 Railroad, res same Edwards, Isaac, res rear 919 E Edwards, W. C. brakeman NPRR If you care for more research check Cyndi Howells list at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/famline.htm Maxine Alexander

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4886EB46577A89A81B55C8BD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------4886EB46577A89A81B55C8BD Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <36544B73.3F4E90E9@ctaz.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:46:43 -0700 From: Larry & Carol Edwards <ledwards@ctaz.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win98; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psroots-l-request@rootsweb.com Subject: Surnames Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for information on the surnames of Banta & Edwards in the Tacoma area around June 1888. Thank you, Larry --------------4886EB46577A89A81B55C8BD--

> From: "J&T Arnold" > > A friend of mine is one of the great-granddaughters of Darius Kinsey. Are > you related? I have forwarded her your note. She has named her daughter > "Kinsey" after her grandmother (who kept the name Kinsey as her middle name > when she married). Hi there, Nope I'm not related to the Kinsey's, I'm just very curious to see the areas they photographed and to study the pictures of the train trestles as that's what my family was building (they only built some of them of course and I don't know yet which ones). She'll love the book! Joyce Wans Mukilteo WA USA

Hi. My Hancocks came from Iowa and lived in Tacoma. Diane H

In a message dated 11/19/98 8:30:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, DianeH875@aol.com writes: << Subj: Hancock Date: 11/19/98 8:30:58 AM Pacific Standard Time From: DianeH875@aol.com Reply-to: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com Hi all. My name is Diane Hall. I am looking for information on Vincent A. (b.8-15-1871)Hancock and his wife Rosa (Dorfner?). They show three children on the census. A. Ruth (b. 4-1896), George V. (b2-1899) and Charles Henry (b. 1902). I find them in Tacoma from 1900-1920. Vincent lists his occupation as Engineer Fire Dept. in 1900 and Insurance Auditor in 1910. I cannot read his 1920 cesus. Any ideas? Thank You, Diane H >> Diane, I have HANCOCK, CORN, COUCHMAN, FUSON, HEWLINGS ancestors in Washington that are all related. What part of WA are you looking in? Did yours come from Virginia to Champaign/Logan counties, OH to WA? Thanks, Cheryl Hawley

Hi all. My name is Diane Hall. I am looking for information on Vincent A. (b.8-15-1871)Hancock and his wife Rosa (Dorfner?). They show three children on the census. A. Ruth (b. 4-1896), George V. (b2-1899) and Charles Henry (b. 1902). I find them in Tacoma from 1900-1920. Vincent lists his occupation as Engineer Fire Dept. in 1900 and Insurance Auditor in 1910. I cannot read his 1920 cesus. Any ideas? Thank You, Diane H