I have Works....let me know Beth Fladaker Tacoma, WA

Hi, Does anyone use Microsoft Works? I'm trying to get a tombstone transcription file translated from a Works database into Excel. Thanks, cheryl

THO' my FYI re the Subject movie Tksgiv'g Day didn't reach your one time, I knew you'd probably be too busy to watch unless U VHS'd it. So, here is a sequel: Beg, Borrow or Rent the pix Friendly Persuasion if, as a genealogist, you are interested in history, attire of an era, architecture of the same, Life in the "far west" Indiana of both the families of means, and those with less but of equal value to the Times. This 1956 Gary Cooper movie of Indiana Quaker Life, complete with - worldly Temptations- -the carnival in town -dancing - the stereoptican - the organ, and the music that eminates from the instrument -chopping wood -young love -"right" vs "wrong" - war, etc. This picture captures the speach of the time, the transportation, religious beliefs and rituals, the less religious beliefs and rituals, clothing styles, architecture of various kinds, the means of transportation and the pride of ownership, the competition; you name it, this picture is for most genealogists a gold mine of information about the times and the lives pre-, present day- and post- Civil War experiences. The elders of the church, their views, the members of the church, the struggles they experienced in attempting to abide by what was expected of them, all of these features are wrapped up in the theme and the theme background music most of you will recognize in this film. Firearms buffs will enjoy those parts, and as I saw there is something for most of us as genealogists who wish to learn more about the times in which many of our ancestors lived and what they encountered along the way. I hope that I have persuaded you in a friendly way to rent, or see a copy of Friendly Persuasions - Gary Cooper, and crew do a magnificent portrayal of Life in the "west" of its Time. Carroll in Snohomish. & & & Not a Movie Buff & & & ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi - any subscribers have any information on the forthcoming 50th Reunion for the Class of 1949 of Puyallup High. thanks Andy - Guam USA dosandy@ite.net

Janis, I live in Tacoma and the first thing you should do is to write to all the cemeteries here and ask them to search their records for those names. If you offer to send a check for thier efforts, they will often do the search without charge. I obtained information from the cemetery of my family and they also sent me a map of the cemetery indicating which plots they are in. If you need help getting a list of addresses, please e-mail me privately and I will send you that information. Yours in Research Beth Fladaker Tacoma, WA

Hello, Can any one tell me how/where to find information on and descendants of; Mary Elizabeth "Bessie" PENROSE (b. 4/9/1874 d. 7/14/1947) who married Sylvan Chandley in August, 1912 and her sister, Anna Floy PENROSE (b. 3/4/1878, d. 7/25/1974-at Des Moines, IA-buried at Tacoma as is Mary) who married Nelson Wehrhan in 1904? TIA Janis

Genealogists would enjoy: The Movie, "Friendly Persuasion" on AMC (CH 22 here) Gary Cooper re Indiana Quaker Family - a four star movie from 1956. I saw it this morn. and feel it is well worth the viewing time 2 hrs 30 min. Includes some Civil War, but lifestyles of the era. Tonight from 7:00 to 9:30 pm. If this doesn't get onto PSR soon enough, the movie is worth renting, and the musical theme in the background complements it. More comments on it later, but thot you would like to see it Carroll -Snohomish. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Can anybody help me trace Margaret HODGES last heard of living in Everett, WA in about 1958. She was / is my grandfather's niece. She was born in 1912 and emigrated from London, UK with her mother Ada Catherine GANDON nee CROUCH arriving in New York in December 1914. They then travelled to Seattle, WA to join a cousin of Ada's, Maude RAMEY nee MATHEWS. Maude's father (Ada's uncle) was Francis MATHEWS who emigrated from London, UK to WA in the 1860s and was apparently was the first mayor of Snohomish County. He was born Francis WOOLWAY, but was adopted by his uncle John MATHEWS with whom he emigrated to WA. He died at the Old Soldiers Home in Orting, WA in 1925. Ada GANDON apparently re-married and was never heard of again (possibly moved to San Diego). Margaret moved to the Los Angeles, CA, area when she was a girl and was then next heard of living in Everett, WA under the name HODGES in about 1958. Shortly afterwards she reportedly married the President of a Seattle TV Station (which TV Station is unknown) and went to live in Seattle. The President's name is unknown. I would be grateful for the following help to assist me to find Margaret: a) a check on the Everett Street / Telephone Directories for the period 1955 - 1965 to see if there are any entries for her b) the names of the Presidents and Vice-Presidents of the various Seattle TV Stations in the period 1955 - 1965 c) in which city would Margaret be more likely to have married, Everett or Seattle - were there any general rules in this regard, e.g. women married in the town where they lived and not where their husbands lived. d) any other tips on how to find her - she may even still be alive today. I thus hope to narrow down the possibilities and then search for Margaret's marriage in either Snohomish or King Counties. I can possibly offer assistance on German or British family history in return. Many thanks for any forthcoming assistance Robin Crouch Essen Germany

** Reply to message from Norma Lewis <norie@localaccess.com> on Wed, 25 Nov 1998 21:04:58 -0800 Norma, > how can they call it the former cemetery before they remove > the bodies? They seem to be jumping the gun a little, wouldn't you think? Just > like they kept telling us it wasn't a cemetery anymore because they bulldozed > it! Lots of hype in that town! Forgive my butting in on your very distressing situation, but I wonder if what they're struggling to say isn't "disused cemetery": I'm sure I've seen that expression used over here for ceneteries that are full up and no longer open for burials (except sometimes in existing family graves). Sometimes such cemeteries in London are locked up and left to moulder away; sometimes they have active groups of "friends" who look after and tend them; sometimes they are semi-converted into a quiet park. It always makes me sad, though, when I see headstones all uprooted stacked against the perimeter walls, just to make the grass easier to mow. I'm afraid that can happen everywhere. John, in Lewisham, Greater London, England

What a small world. I remember you from about 1943 Woodland Elementary - your two sisters Patricia & Dolores - am I right ?? - went to school with my sister & I - Beverly & Tonie Waughtel ?? We lived up on the Old Pipeline Road waaaay back in the woods -- where the Jewett's had lived before us. Beverly married Jerry Devers & they have retired to the sunny warmth of Arizona two years ago. Myself, I will never leave Washington. <grin> Antoinette (Tonie) waughtel@oz.net "Andrew R. Hutchko" wrote: > Hi - any subscribers have any information on the forthcoming 50th > Reunion for the Class of 1949 of Puyallup High. > > thanks > Andy - Guam USA > dosandy@ite.net

So do I Evelyn - how can they call it the former cemetery before they remove the bodies? They seem to be jumping the gun a little, wouldn't you think? Just like they kept telling us it wasn't a cemetery anymore because they bulldozed it! Lots of hype in that town! Norma JOHuffER@aol.com wrote: > > Glen, I care about the cemetery, which it always will be. Just think how it > will be referred to, the new community center built on historic burial > grounds. Doesn't have a good ring to it, does it? Evelyn

This was listed on an AOL message board: Subject: ELLSWORTH FAMILY TREE Date: 5/5/98 5:51 PM Pacific Standard Time From: <A HREF="aol://3548:StaceyJH">StaceyJH</A> Message-id: <1998050601514500.VAA19216@ladder01.news.aol.com> LOOKING FOR DONNA WARD FROM WASHINGTON STATE WHO PUBLISHED THE ELLSWORTH FAMILY TREE. YOU ARE RELATED TO MY FAMILY AND WE WOULD LIKE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU. WE WERE WANTING TO GET ANOTHER COPY OF THE BOOK FROM YOU IF POSSIBLE. PLEASE CONTACT STACEYJH@AOL.COM

Glen, I care about the cemetery, which it always will be. Just think how it will be referred to, the new community center built on historic burial grounds. Doesn't have a good ring to it, does it? Evelyn

Carroll: I saw the article today. Was going to send it out but you beat me to it. Dont know how a cemetery can become a "former cemetery"? I wish I could get a copy of Carolynn's list of names. People need to know those people are still buried there. Do you think they care? Does anyone care except for a small group? Going over to our cabin this weekend. See you monday....glen

WF5F@aol.com Have you checked out the Family Line Service offered on Cyndi's web site at http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/famline.htm. We may be able to help you. Maxine

The Herald Wed Nov 24, 1998 p. 3B NEWS WATCH - QUOTED AS FOLLOWS: SNOHOMISH Center donation: The proposed new youth center in Snohomish has received a $20,000 donation from the Snohomish Lions Club. The center is planned for the site of the former Snohomish Cemetery after a long legal battle cleared the way for building there. The center will be operated by the Snohomish Valley Activities Council. The 6,000-square-foot facility is expected to cost about $250,000. So far, $50,000 has been donated toward the construction costs, along with commitments of donated labor and materials. The Lions have been active in the community since 1929. END OF QUOTED ARTICLE FROM THE HERALD. Carroll of Snohomish * * * 30 * * * ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi! You mentioned Iowa... Where 'bouts in Iowa? Janis

I am new to this list. My great-grandparents and grandparents lived in the Tacoma area and Vancouver area and died there. I have been working on the following names: Lyons, Runyan, and Hadley. John E. Lyons was born in Ohio and died in Puyallup, WA 1895. He is my biggest quest as I have not been able to find his parents names on any records. If any of his children knew, I have been unable to trace any of the children directly. His daughter, my grandmother Grace Lyons Runyan, died before I became interested in the family history. I live in Anchorage, Alaska and was thrilled when Cyndi Howells came to speak. I am hoping someday to trace the Runyans and Lyons from their Ohio and Iowa roots to Washington. I am not sure why they came to Washington state but I hope to find out why someday. I grew up in Oregon so I saw much of Washington until I married and went to see the world. Living in Anchorage means all planes stop in Seattle going to and from Alaska. I just need to stop in Tacoma and Puyallup area to check out local records someday.

I enjoyed your ref to articles re female teachers and what was referred to in early times as "out west" or "far west" such as IN, OH, etc. The series, "Little House on the Prairie" gave us views, also, and such other sources that attempt to portray teachers, and early teaching. I picked up on the CAUDLE & TERRY surnames: I had a student in the 6th grade by the name of Debbie CAUDLE, or Debra Caudle, which was in the 1960s. Does that name happen to mean anything to you, Rose? Then, there was a TERRY surname family who lived in Snohomish many yrs ago, among whom were several very good teachers. Does that ring a bell for you? One of the Terry men lived across the street from Averill Field in Snohomish as I recall. Just curious to know, as I have run into many Small Worlds over the yrs. * * * I came upon a Clark Line relative who lived in Everett, WA. the Hiatts, who loaned me several drawers of morabilia from their (& ours) ancestry. It was a "gold mine" of gen. material consisting of old diaries, autograph albums, pix, certificates, documents, all sorts of neat things. The locale was mainly Klickitat Co. areas, Ellensberg, and Ellensberg Normal info. Descriptions of WX, illnesses in the Fams., all sorts of highly interesting accounts of the Life in these areas, and genealogy fan chart info, etc. I had always wanted to try this, so I mounted my 8 mm. video camcorder on a copying stand (formerly used for 35 mm still camera work) & proceeded to prepare to copy the various gen charts, and memorabilia, diaries etc. in a sequential format that I had planned in my mind. Before, doing all this, I carefully layed out all the materials, and read through the various items. Then, I planned in my mind, w/o script what it is I wanted to accomplish. Once I did this part, I was ready to give it a trial run. Using a $10. yard sale 13" TV for a monitor of what I was photographing, I began following the pattern I had set out to do. The monitor allowed me to see what the finished view would be, and macro focusing was used in order to get close to the objects. As I photgraphed momentarily each sequence, I made verbal commentary of what I was photographing. After a few trial runs at this, I found that I could make corrections of both my photographing and commentary to my satisfaction. Mainly I used the natural lighting from windows, auxiliary lights wherever needed (used sparingly) and an old 20" TV protective glass for keeping diaries, etc. flat for photographing. Light reflections sometimes, were a problem. For that I had some non-reflective glass from picture frames that allowed me to rid reflections for some documents. I learned as I went along, innovating with various techniques that occurred to me. For instance, some of the pix were such that I could not get good detail or even legibility using the regular procedure. So, I thot of clamping a large magnifying glass into a small vice, and using that with my 8 mm. video camcorder lens, I could really enhance the detail by adjusting light sources and watching the monitor. In one instance, I was unable to make visible the names at the top of a tall granite monument at Centerville, Co. seat of Klickitat Co. which I had photographed with a still 35 mm. camera years before when visiting there. The lens of the camera would not allow the names to be visible, so using the magnifying glass, held by the vice, and adjusting the light a bit, I was able to make those names perfectly visible, and therefore usable. All-in-all after processing the materials I was fortunate to have access to, I was able to come out with a sort of documentary of all of the materials, visible, readable, and with commentary with each item for a full two hour taped genealogy. Wherever I reviewed the master copy and saw that I could make improvements, I did so. This master copy was mine, and I was able to make VHS format copies for the various relatives of the items, along with verbal commentary, telling a story that worked out better than I had originally thought. Oh, yes, it took days to do this and I could do as much or as little as I wished, but it all worked very well. By the way, when the camera is on there is usually sound picked up by the built-in mic. but I found that I could switch off the mic. at times when I wanted no sound. When garbage trucks, or the mail man or other hot rodders get into your sound system, it isn't very good, so I tried to do my taping in the quiet hours whenever I could find them. Another technique I used with success, is to use an audio tape recorder and tape music, or commentary, or whatever, and just insert that sound source into the scenes whever I wanted. I could just let the camera mic pick it up, or I sometimes could just feed the sound from the audio tape recorder directly into a plug in cord, or patch cord, directly into the audio input of the camera. Not all camcorders have this feature, but mine did but one can innovate this sort of thing. It does take a bit of time and organization, but it is well worth it and once it is done, you have a good record that can be copied in the future, using as much or as little as you wish by picking and choosing. It was a fun project to do and it satisfied my curiosity that it could be done and was not all that much work for what I was able to achieve. This item dealt with in part one of the ancestors who had attended, grad, and attained his teaching certif. and I was able to video tape his old teaching certifs. from Ellensburg Normal around the turn of the century as well as other late 19th & early 20the cent. items. He kept a diary of his early teaching experiences, YMCA attendance projects, and means of transportation. At one time, he was able to buy one of those large front wheeled bicycles - there is a name for them. The way they handled the severe winters of snow, ice etc. were all in the diaries, along with members of the fam who had illnesses, which in those times were quite severe - life threatening! Thank goodness, I made that video documentary because those people now live in Texas, and I would never get the opportunity to have access to those genealogical items, which as I say were a Gold Mine of info. The Pix were very well labeled and legible which helped - some were even tin-type, & other examples of early photography which I taped from. Another idea which has occurred to me but which I have not done as yet is to include postage stamps in my genealogy, or even in a video version of it. Postage stamps are so excellent examples of history, places, dates, and events that one can readily find commemorative stamps from various ages to help enhance and illustrated the genealogy, and make it more palatable for the non-genealogist types to, perhaps, enjoy. Helps to make history and family history to come to life, along with your text accounts. Happy Thanksgiving! (No sermons, please) Carroll of Snohomish. &&& Storm '98 is Upon Us! &&& Batten the Hatches! ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi Darlee, Thank you for your response. I am looking for Kate (Katherine) Dorfner. She is my g-g-grandmother. She is found on the 1910 census. It says she is 62 and had 6 children. I know her husband's name was Joseph. I haven't found him,yet. The children I have found were born in Iowa, but I haven't found them there. The other family I am interested in is Vincent Hancock (b8-15-1871). His wife Rosa (b 5-27-1877) is Kate's daughter. They lived in Washington for 20 years. Vincent was a fire truck driver and later an insurance auditor. Their son Charles Henry Hancock (b 1902) was my grandfather. My grandfather died when my mother was a little girl, so I don' have any information besides what I find on census. Thank You, Diane