Census. I can talk census. I actually worked as a census taker for the 1990 C. I can promise you, that we were not encouraged to be creative. Before we went out we were given a list of non-responses to probable homes. (In other word...before the census count started preparitory work was done.) The PUD electrical accounts were a source of home sites. Planning commission... don't know all the rest. We had to visit nearly 300 houses in a series of developments because someone got the wrong zip code for 'em and all the forms were returned as undeliverable. In some developments the street address (PUD) as actually a light post. Our instructions were get it from the horses mouth. I did interview the teen-age son because one parent was asleep and the other at work. I did go to a neighbor for information because this one house just wasn't answering. (Neighbors are allowable but not encouraged). Turns out the husband and wife both died with in days of each other and the grown kids just couldn't handle it. So the house was maintained etc. The long form was numerically figured. Every so often someone got a form that took nearly 45 minutes to fill out. The short form I could do at the door...but I sat at the kitchen table for that long one. I got a bonus everytime I added a family within my area. I got travel. and I had to produce so much work...or it was good bye... I did do one call back on the phone...somehow I missed a square. Darilee

Yes, John, I, too, saw a debate on the Census issue and I was glad to see that you brought that up as, even the Census status is getting out of hand and going awry if we don't get something done about it. The innacuracy and means of acquiring the census is being bandied about. Hopefully we can do something about it by letting our wishes be known asap. and before it, too, gets politicized. We need to take care to see that our Census is done as accurately as humanly possible. As genealogists, the Census is one of our many tools and we want to keep that tool as sharp and keen as we can for future use. Glad you brought that to our attention, John. We can all be aware of where this goes, as we should be. Carroll in Snohomish. * * * 30 * * * ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hello all, I'm new to the list. My husband Trace and I are researching his paternal ancestry and have been very successful springboarding from his grandfather Theodore Harrison Pierson's birth certificate to a revolutionary soldier b. in 1761 in NJ. However, we know virtually nothing of his grandfather due to the following family legend: When Trace's father James was between 5 and 8, his father Teddy was involved in a fight. The man died of a heart attack, but Teddy was sent to prison in Walla Walla for a 10 year manslaughter sentence. James was the youngest of the 3 children, but all were sent to separate foster homes. The family story doesn't explain why they couldn't stay with their mother Evelyn Barnes (of Cowlitz Indian descent). Known facts: The alleged crime would have occurred between 1944 and 1947/8 in Pierce Co. Washington. (Probably in the Gig Harbor or Longbranch area) Walla Walla Prison verified that Theodore Harrison Pierson was incarcerated at Walla Walla 1/25/51 to 5/16/52 for non support. His DOC # 023158. He was released from final parole in March 1957, though he could have remained on parole until March 1971. They could not verify if he had served any time for manslaughter, but implied that he had served time previous to the non-support sentence. Teddy Pierson died in 1965 and Evelyn Pierson died in 1966. Both are buried in the New Tacoma Cemetery. Both were allegedly alcoholics. Husband and wife reunited after his release, but no reunion with the children occurred. We've just discovered through the 1920 Pierce Co. Census that Teddy had siblings. In Jan. 1920 Jennie M. Pierson (Teddy's mother) is living in the Longbranch region of Pierce Co. with her children Teddy age 17 a logger, Pearl age 12, Ellsworth age 9, Charles age 5 and Robert age 3 7/12. The eldest 3 are born in OK and the youngest 2 in WA. Their father Alonzo Pierson is not listed, so probably died bet. 1916 and 1920 in WA. We've scanned Tacoma Tribune newspapers, but were unable to find any article about the manslaughter. However, without an index, we easily could have missed an article. Can anyone give advice on how to obtain court proceedings, records of charges filed, trials, sentences, parole records.... Anything to this effect. We are not sure if a crime other than non-support even occurred. Was there a more local paper than Tacoma's that may have covered events in the Gig Harbor/Longbranch area in the 1940's? Does anyone know what became of Pearl, Ellsworth, Charles or Robert Pierson? The youngest would be 81 or so, but any could still be alive. I've not found any SSDI records matching any of them, but that doesn't mean much - Teddy isn't listed either, but he is known to be dead. I'd also like to find when and where Alonzo Pierson is buried. Thank you so much for any helpful suggestions you all may have. Although we both grew up in Puget Sound, we now live in Chicago, so advise on weeding through the court system especially would be appreciated! Leslie Pierson Leslie.c.pierson@boeing.com <mailto:Leslie.c.pierson@boeing.com>

Hi Maudeen, I noticed among your collection of Surnames the COE one. Would you possibly have gen. that goes back to Robert COE, Puritan, his ancestors & desc. 1340 - 1910. My wf has gen tie in with that Line via Banjamin Coe m. bef. 1660 Abigail CARMAN b. abt 1635, dau of John and Florence Carman, early settlers of Hempstead, L.I., in 1644. Also, I believe I have a remote tie in with this COE LINE with my Clark, et al branches. Just interested in playing a possible fly tie. LOL Tell me more about where you live - since your addr hints Bainbridge Is., I would guess. Sincerely, Carroll in Snohomish * * * 30 * * * ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

The Herald, (Everett, WA.) Mon. Nov. 30, 1998, Sec C, p. C1, Article titled: (ALL QUOTED AS FOLLOWS) Project rooted in Lynnwood history STREET SMARTS Bob Wodnik, w pix of him. Odd as it may sound, there is a genuine sense of history surrounding the new Lynnwood I-5 interchange. I was standing with Robert Dixon, Lynnwood's construction manager, one gusty morning last week watching gold welding sparks float down from underneath a partially built bridge, when he pointed out something of the past. There, right beside a huge concrete footing that helps support one of the unfinished overpass bridges, is the exact spot where an Interurban train station once served the chicken farms of Alderwood Manor. In the early 1920s, 500 cases of eggs a week rolled out of the surrounding five-acre farms in a place known as Lynnwood. Besides chicken eggs, those Interurban trains carried passenger from Bellingham through Snohomish County all the way to south Seattle (if they desired) in cars decorated with ornate lamps and woodwork, stained glass window arches and brass railings. Then, in one of the region's great transportation blunders, the Interurban trains stopped running in 1939 and the tracks were torn out. Weeds grew up. By then, the car was king and electric trains used to transport office workers, Saturday shoppers and Alderwood Manor chicken eggs were considered old- fashioned and outdated. Not far from the place where the Interurban once ran is Alderwod Mall, a regional shopping center that changed the look, feel and, of course, the traffic in Lynnwood. A city linked to a mall finds it a blessing and curse: tax dollars and clogged streets. There is a saying in Lynnwood that the population at night is 33,000, while during the day it's more than 100,000. And during this time of year, the holiday shopping season , it seems like more than a million brake lights are backing up traffic around the mall's parking lots and the endless storefronts on 196th Street and Highway 99. "Everything in Lynnwood is driven by traffic," Dixon said. That is why big road construction projects are timed to end, whenever possible, before the holiday shopping rush that starts the day after Thanksgiving and runs through December. Helping traffic move more easily onto and off I-5 near Alderwood Mall is the goal of a 10-year, $71million interchange project that began about five years ago. Enough of the project is completed that drivers will notice a difference this Christmas shopping season. The six-phase project includes: X A new Alderwood Mall Parkway, opened in time for the 1996 holiday season. It offers a way to skirt from the mall onto I-5. X New northbound I-5 on and off ramps opened in time for the holiday season last year. X A few weeks ago, just in time for this year's shopping season, a new freeway ramp for southbound traffic onto I-5 opened, easing traffic on congested 196th Street SW and near 37th Street SW. X A new southbound on, southbound off and a southbound loop to eastbound 196th Street remains to be built. XCollector distributor lanes are planned on both north and southbound I-5 near the mall, making it easier for freeway traffic to pass through Lynnwood. XThere is one last piece to the big interchange project, a pedestrian bridge that will one day cross I-5. ( Carroll says at this point to capture the IRONY of this story, I will now QUOTE IN ALL CAPS the final paragraph as follows) THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE HOOKS ONTO A WALKING AND BICYCLE TRAIL THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY INTO EVERETT. THE TRAIL IS CALLED THE INTERURBAN TRAIL, BECAUSE IT FOLLOWS THE PATH OF THE OLD FORGOTTEN TRAINS, THE VERY ONES THAT ONCE RAN RIGHT THROUGH THE PLACE THAT LATER BECAME LYNNWOOD. * * * 30 * * * END OF QUOTED ARTICLE FROM THE HERALD, EVERETT, WA. Comment: Some of you who read PSR recall the old Interburban between Seattle and Everett ( & even to Bellingham). My recollection of it is quite vivid, as my Mother and I rode the Interurban between Seattle and Everett many times while one our way back to Snohomish. To get to Snohomish, we had to stop at Everett Interurban/Bus Station Pacific and Colby ( the brick bulding still there on the NW corner) in Everett. There, we waited for the Galloping Goose (blunt faced engine/passenger + one more passenger car, if needed) Snohomish bound. The Interurban run was always interesting - the small RR buildings along the way with various names attached to them - Maltby, etc. and even more obscure names where passengers could wait and catch the Interurban or get off at that point. The trees then were so lush that at times it seemed we were riding along through a vertible tunnel of them, seldom seeing houses among them for some distance, in places. The building that has always stood out in my recollection was the Interurban Station at Alderwood Manor, with its wainscoating, almost European styled building that was a landmark through many generations. It still stands but sits falornly off to the side a short distance from its original site where the major construction goes on nearby. What the plans are for that landmark bldg. in the future, I have not heard, but many want it preserved, if possible. Time will tell. When we moved to Alderwood Manor in 1958, there was an Alderwood Manor Post Office (the Ald. Mnr. P.O. is the bldg occupied by TV Only store today), and that is where we got our mail, and where we shopped. They had a wonderful furniture store located there and a hardware store there still is sitting there today. We moved several miles North to GunnySack Hill -or about 144th & Hwy 99, about 5 miles away, where we lived 20 yrs. and we had an Alderwood Manor P.O. address, but during those years Lynnwood grew and eventually absorbed Alderwood Manor, so that we lost that P.O. and switched to the new Lynnwood address at the same residence. For those who remembered Alderwood Manor, fond memories of it remain. The old 1908 Alderwood Elementary School decommissioned in 1960 where I taught for 2 years, was replaced by 2 Lynnwood schools, and the 1908 school site became the Edmonds District 15 offices. The former playground for the school was cut through by Hwy I-5. I think of that as I pass right through our former playground area where kids played during recesses. Fond memories recall. One of these days, my "kids" or my granddaughter will probably bicycle along the path of the old Alderwood Manor Interurban site, along the rout where I used to ride the rails and marvel at the site of Alderwood Manor Station and the activity there - never realizing that someday I would live there and bring back the fond memories of it. * * * 30 * * * On p. 5C of The Herald, same date, sec. etc as above, but in the section called SEEM Like Yesterday By Jack ODonnell from Herald Archeves, I QUOTE : 50 YEARS AGO (1948) Joseph Irving, Everett pioneer and retired logger, 2930 Hoyt Ave., chuckled as he recalled the county seat election between Everett and Snohomish in 1894. When he visited the Courthouse in Snohomish he was checked for a gun. Later in the day he slipped a cap gun into the coat pocket of Everett attorney F. H. Brownell. Later when Brownell was checked all had a good laugh during the heated election where few were amused about anything. END OF QUOTED snip. cap gun = a toy pistol, usually, that fired caps, emitted a small amt of smoke, but a crack or bang of sound, depending on the size of the "cap" usually sold in rolls for automatic feed, or perf. sheets for single shots. Used all year for "wars" and other "shoot outs" and of course on 4th of July. Collectibles by today's "standards". Often time cast iron, but of various metal materials most often before plastics entered the scene. A lot of consternation took place when Everett "beat out" Snohomish for the site of the County seat, formerly that of Snohomish, corner of Ave D and 5th Street (site of Snohomish High School). The friction has come down through the generations, as a stigma via the two towns. Carroll in Snohomish. && Irony Happens && ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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Good Day, Was just listening to the NPR Morning Edition and the discussion about our next census. One of the things they mentioned was that our last census cost the most and was the least accurate. One group proposes a sampling process that can be more accurate, they say. The other group says an actual head count is required, otherwise we must change the constition. The first group responds that "that is junk history." The objective is to meet now and over the next few months discussing the choices to get a final decission by next summer. Haven't checked yet, but in an hour or so you should be able to go to the NPR web page; http://www.npr.org/ to hear what was said. Click on programs, then on Morning Edition, then on Listen to latest prog. Scroll down to find the item about Census. My comp can't handle the choice for the "whole" program but can handle one item at a time. Perhaps a few here can write to let them know we don't consider the old census methods "junk history." John You wanna discuss it? Try: INDIAN-HERITAGE discussion list *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====* # John Wm Sloniker <johnwms@serv.net> Seattle, WA # # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*

Hi, I have several lines I research in Iowa and have listed the names on various surname/web lists. What names were you referring to? Thanks for responding, Jane in WA

Carroll, Evelyn, Maudeen and all - Thank you very much for the terrific support & friendship! It is so nice to know I have all of you on my side. I appreciate the kind words very much. Hope all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. Thanks again, Cyndi

Hi Group, Is there anyone out there that knows where the records for Selective Service enlistments for Washington State may be found? TIA Pat Holland ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Cheryl- I have a hunch that Donna Potter Phillips may be able to find this lady if no one else answers. Pat Holland ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Also, did anyone see the Parade magazine today? Nice references made to Cyndi's List in an article about genealogy and computer genealogy in particular. Maudeen Maudeen@bainbridge.net Book Reviewer -www.Amazon.com Genealogy surnames: WEATHERLY, INMAN, NEELING, CAMERON, SWIFT, CHASE, HAUSER, ARNEY, ROARK, BLAIR, CRAWFORD, PURCELL, HAZLETT, HAISCH, WIPF, MILLIGAN, CRESWELL, STAHL, SCHULZ, HENDERSHOT, OLMSTEAD, SPEAR, COLE, LEE, STUCKEY, FAY, THOMAS, CROSS Locations: Guilford Co, NC, Owen Co., IN, Marshall Co., IA, Medina Co., OH, Kossuth Co., IA, Cecil Co., MD, Chester CO., PA Washington Co., PA, Clayton Co., IA, Warren Co., NJ, Luzerne Co., PA -----Original Message----- From: JOHuffER@aol.com <JOHuffER@aol.com> To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, November 29, 1998 3:19 PM Subject: Re: CONGRATS CYNDI !!!! >I am pleased to add my congratulations to Carroll's regarding Cyndi's award. >Evelyn >

The Ken Baxter Senior/Community Center, a branch of the Marysville (WA) Parks & Recreation Department in its Bulletin, Senior Chatter 514 Delta Avenue, Marysville, WA 98270. The address sounds a bit foreign, but it is right down town in the building that had been the police dept. at the park on Main St. Easty to find or just ask anyone. GENEALOGY on THURSDAYS 10:00 - 12:00 . I haven't attended it as yet, but plan to do so, asap. They are a welcoming group that operate that site and you are welcome. No dues, or cost, I am told. I am sure they would love to have your presence if that is convenient for you. Try it - you may have kin waiting for you there !!! Then, stop down the street to the 3rd Street Book Store, meet and see Darilee - see the Genealogical Gold Mine at her Loft upstairs. She might even tell you about her fantastic gen. project-contribution that she is doing - what dedication to genealogy and legacy for all of us. I don't know how she finds time to do all those things - just the bookstore alone is a PROJECT, let alone the Gen. Loft, et al. This is NOT AN AD - it is FYI that is Genealogically oriented - I wish Snohomish had something like this. If there is genealogy going on in Snohomish, I would like to hear about it. To my knowledge, we have NOTHING like the above, and we take such pride in our pioneer roots, but where is the genealogy interest, preservation (other than old houses!); well, we got a surprise: SNOHOMISH has seen the LIGHT - first it was the bridge (old one) that became outlined in LIGHTS - as of this past Friday - stores open til late - the WHOLE TOWN OF SNOHOMISH WAS OUTLINED IN LIGHTS. LOOKS GREAT, REMINDS ME A BIT OF LEAVENWORTH ! LOL !!!! COME, SEE, SNOHOMISH AT NIGHT!!!! Plan on walking, as you will have a heck of a time finding a place to park - even on the side streets - this place is a parking lot. Now, all we need is some Genealogy Interest, some Historical Preservation (as opposed to Desecration). Maybe be Averiall Field will get a Plaque someday, Avenue D near the high school (AN ALLEY) will get blacktopped, and a Plaque for Snohomish Cemetery (the $20,000 one!). We are proud of our LIGHTS! Christmas Carroll of Snohomish. * * * 30 * * * ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Just read my Eastman's Online Newletter: CONGRATULATIONS, CYNDI !!! Cyndi's List was voted the best gen site on the World Wide Web by readers of Eastman's Online Gen. Newsletter. All of us have known this right along, but it is good to see it in print and recognize the service she has provided us all for greatly enhancing our use of the computer for gen. and providing for sites for us to have success - the goal of our gen. Versatility and success have very greatly helped persons to achieve results and it keeps abreast of the changes that come about. THANK YOU for all the sweat, effort, and at times tears that you have experienced in helping others, Cyndi!! http://www.CyndisList.com Carroll, of Snohomish, et al & & & {{{{{CH}}}}}}} & & & ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I am pleased to add my congratulations to Carroll's regarding Cyndi's award. Evelyn

Beth-I think all of the cemeteries in Pierce Co have been transcribed and copies of the materials are at the Tacoma Public Library or for sale by the Tacoma Pierce Co. Gen. Society. Ellen EFlad@aol.com wrote: > Janis, > I live in Tacoma and the first thing you should do is to write to all the > cemeteries here and ask them to search their records for those names. If you > offer to send a check for thier efforts, they will often do the search without > charge. I obtained information from the cemetery of my family and they also > sent me a map of the cemetery indicating which plots they are in. If you need > help getting a list of addresses, please e-mail me privately and I will send > you that information. > Yours in Research > Beth Fladaker > Tacoma, WA

I am helping a woman in Sweden find information on her family, if someone has city directory's or access to them, I'd appreciate your help. The woman's name was Mrs Emely (spelling Emily?) Johnson, she lived at 1066 A Street, Coeur D'Alene, Idaho between 1928 and 1934. (Request city directory lookup for those dates and address) Her maiden name was Palsson/Paulsson/Paulson. Her husband may have been an Alese Johnson. She had a son Axel Emeritt (last name unknown, probaby Johnson or Paulson) born 28 January 1885. Axel lived in Los Angeles in 1931. He had a son Chester, he was 20 years in 1934, he was probably born in 1913-1915. I appreciate any help. Ron Bestrom -- Engång skall du vara en av dem som levat för längesen. - Pär Lagerkvist, Aftonland (Some day you shall be among those who lived long ago.)

TATANKA834@aol.com wrote: >I wish I could get a copy of Carolynn's list of names. People need to know those >people are still buried there. Glen, I received a copy of the court exhibit containing the listing of burials agreed upon by the city and Carolynn. It is already on a web page but has not been uploaded as yet. Should be there within a week or two -- been real busy with my business and with Thanksgiving. Andi Washington State Cemetery Association http://www.rootsweb.com/~wapsgs

I am searching for anyone of relation or knowledge of Joe Palmer Pederson 7/12/35, and his parents, Melvin B. Pederson and Doris Ethel Pualson.

Thanks!! The file is translated!! Cheryl

Cheryl, I also have Excel.... Beth