Gayle , Thanks for the info please tell what 411 is i'm still learning about being on line. and if you might check with the Doty family to see if they might help i would be very happy you see I'm from PA too and the Doty and Wait family's go with the Morris family but I just can't seem to find and on them Doty I mean and Grand ma Morris is up in her 90's and can't help. so I'm stuck???? becky Gayle Fuson wrote: > Sorry, I don't. I know one family personally in Port Angeles. Their son and > mine used to play together and are now 19 yrs old. > Sorry I can't help, > Gayle > gayle@olypen.com > Please vist my new homepage > http://www.olypen.com/gayle/home.html > -----Original Message----- > From: Pam Dollarhide <misha@foxinternet.net> > To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 8:20 PM > Subject: Re: Doty > > :Do you have any links to Doty's in Tacoma area? I grew up with a Doty > :family (lived right across the street). The daughter and her husband are > :still living there. Father's name was June Doty. Daughter is Barbara. > :-----Original Message----- > :From: Becky A Morris <bm8404@toro.awc.cc.az.us> > :To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> > :Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 7:13 PM > :Subject: Doty > : > : > :>I'm looking for any info on the Doty family of Port Angeles area please > :>Thank you Becky > :> > :> > : > :

Ireally do not know my g grandmother was Floy Queen Doty she married a Martain Wait know there was a Ida Moriell married a William Doty in 1858 that's GGGrandparents but thats about it. if any of this sound like you might know please let me know! thanks becky Pam Dollarhide wrote: > Do you have any links to Doty's in Tacoma area? I grew up with a Doty > family (lived right across the street). The daughter and her husband are > still living there. Father's name was June Doty. Daughter is Barbara. > -----Original Message----- > From: Becky A Morris <bm8404@toro.awc.cc.az.us> > To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 7:13 PM > Subject: Doty > > >I'm looking for any info on the Doty family of Port Angeles area please > >Thank you Becky > > > >

On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, "Cathy M. Wilson" <cmwilson@csoftc.com> wrote: >Does anyone know if the Heritage Quest Library in Sumner has available the microfilms that are available for purchase/rental from Heritage Quest. >I hope this is not to confusing... > >Thanks...Cathy > Hello Cathy, Indeed, Heritage Quest Research Library in Sumner,orders film from Heritage Quest Genealogical Services (formerly AGLL), in Utah. The Library has access to several collections of films that are different than what the Family History Centers offer. Makes for a nice compliment to one another. Also gives you two definitely different sources for your research needs. Carolyn Pasquier Director Heritage Quest Research Library 909 Main St. Suite 5 Sumner, WA 98390 (253) 863-1806

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In a message dated 12/6/98 2:46:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, gayle@olypen.com writes: << Subj: Re: Doty Date: 12/6/98 2:46:00 PM Pacific Standard Time From: gayle@olypen.com (Gayle Fuson) Reply-to: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com I see the url for the Doty's didn't come through. Just go to www.infopace.com choose white pages and then fill in the name Doty and then Port Angeles WA and it will give all 7 to you. Gayle >> Hi, You might try www.switchboard.com also. It shows 7 Doty's in Port Angeles and 12 in Tacoma. Thanks, Cheryl

The Seattle-Puget Sound Area TMG Users Group meets usually the first Sunday of the month at 5:00 pm in the Newport Way Library. This month it is Sunday, Dec 6. Visitors are welcome. Directions to the library: http://www.kcls.org/npw/direct.html For further information about meetings or to be placed on this group's e-mail list, contact the chair: Celia Tomlin <celitoml@kcls.org> --Ida Skarson McCormick, idamc@seanet.com, Seattle -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 18:35:02 -0800 (PST) From: Celia Tomlin <celitoml@kcls.org> Subject: TMG this Sunday, Dec 6 5:00 pm ... The TMG group will be meeting again this Sunday at 5:00pm at the Newport Way Library for a rousing discussion of the tangles of the program. Unless something else comes up, we will tackle another report and experiment with the process. If you have questions, please put them before the group. ...

Ken, I couldn't find Alice in the Washington State Death Index. Monday Ill call the Cemetery and talk to them as the Local Genealogy society hasn't made a book out of that cemetery. It is a shame as it is the oldest cemetery in the city. I also checked the City Directory and couldn't find her their. Maybe she lived in one of the suburbs which now fall into the city limits of Tacoma. I did find an Alice Norene Collidge who died in 1933 in Port Angeles which is about 105 miles NW of the Tacoma. I'll write you again Monday with what I find out and visit the Library Saturday. I was so disappointed. Nora -- Mailto:Norahiatt@sprintmail.com Maxine Correa Where are YOU??? http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/i/a/Nora-Ann-Hiatt-WA/

>X-Message: #2 >Date: Fri, 4 Dec 1998 21:27:40 -0800 (PST) >From: kits@kits.seanet.com (Kit Niemann) >Subject: The Interurban >Thank you, Carrol, for the Interuburn story. Glad you enjoyed that bit of nastalgia, Kit. I am certainly glad I was able to take in and now recall that bit of experience with the Interurban travel, especially now that today, the commute has become a necessary means of moving people along the same general route at tremendous cost of construction. > I don't go back quite far enough to remember the train My wife doesn't remember the Interurban, also, as she didn't live near it - later she lived out at Intercity - at the time I was going with her, and when we married in Aug. 1950. ( I might comment that the Interurban was not a usual train with locomotive of the steam type to form the train. Rather they were trolleys or like street cars that used electrical wires for their source of power, and looked like a long passenger train car, oftentime with a bell on the front, with a "cow catcher" to hopefully move objects out of the way of the front wheels. Various names were given to them, such as Seattle- Everett Traction Company, W.C.R. & L. Co. or Whatcom County Railway & Light Co., Pacific Northwest Traction Co., etc. "Speeders" or small gasoline driven vehicles were used by officials to ride the tracks, as they had wheels on them designed to ride the rails. ). but I do remember part of the route. In 1941-2, >my brother and I rode my uncle's horse on the Old Interurban Track, as >we >called it. And that is what we called it even after the Interurban ceased to traverse the route and for many years afterward, until the rails were removed for bike, and walking trails in latter years. From Intercity to Everett. I think that is how we got to >Pain >Field at that time also, and to Silver Lake. Yes, that is very true. I was more familiar with the general route, as I was not acquainted with all of the stations along the way - most of which was heavily forested. >One day when we were going to Silver Lake, we use to ride out there to >watch the sulky horses in training at the harness track, we met some >folks >herding cattle down the Interurban Track. A couple had ropes that >they >were swinging and one man was using a bull whip. We got off the track >and >let them pass. > >Oh, how things have changed. > >My Grandfather, Roderick J. McDonald had a Richfield Service Station & >Garage on Hwy 99 in Intercity. A pretty landscaped stucco station, >garage >and house, all gone now and some big parking lot for a mall or >something, >no place called Intercity any more, just south of Everett. We still refer to it as Intercity - I don't know if the bus that goes by there refers to it as Intercity anymore, and the appearance of that area has changed a lot as you have said. I don't happen to recall the Richfield Service Station & Garage of your Grandfather's but I was not familiar with that area until the late 40s & 50s. I have a copy of Warren W. Wing's To Seattle by Trolley, and signed by him when I went out to his home to visit him. This find book is "The Story of the Seattle-Everett Interurban and the 'Trolley That Went To Sea' pub. by Pacific Fast Mail, Box 57, Edmonds, WA. The [pix are black & white from the era in which they were taken. Mine is Copyright 1988. 160 pp. softcover. Those pix bring back a lot of fond memories because they show many of the stations along the route, tiny niches along the track where people could enter or leave the trolley. I mangaged to save tokens from Seattle, and also Tacoma with the S or the T punched in the center of them. Thanks again for you contribution of what you recall of the tracks of that fond old way of transportation that we need today. Best regards, Carroll in Snohomish * * * 30 * * * >Kit >Olalla WA ____________________________ >------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi all - The Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society's monthly meeting will be this Tuesday, December 8th beginning at 6:30 pm. Our topic will be: Our Holiday Heritage and Memories by the members and guests of TPCGS Everyone is invited to bring holiday heirlooms and share holiday memories of our family's holidays from days gone by. Do you have a special gift or a treasured toy given to you in the past by a dear family member? How did your grandparents or great-grandparents spend their holiday seasons? Does your family still practice time-honored family traditions during this special time of year? If so, please bring these memories and treasures to share with everyone else at this festive society meeting. We always have cookies and treats at our meetings. We hope that anyone who brings cookies to this special meeting might consider bringing a traditional family holiday favorite. And if you like, please bring copies of the recipes to share with everyone as well. Our venue is the Olympic Room at the Tacoma Public Library, 1102 Tacoma Avenue South, Tacoma, Washington. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/meetings.htm for an online map and driving directions to the Library. Guests are always welcome at the TPCGS monthly meetings. You need not be a member to attend our free monthly meetings. See you there. Merry Cheers - Mark -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ markhow@oz.net

Thank you, Carrol, for the Interuburn story. I don't go back quite far enough to remember the train but do remember part of the rout. In 1941 -2, my brother and I rode my uncle's horse on the Old Interurban Track, as we called it. From Intercity to Everett. I think that is how we got to Pain Field at that time also, and to Silver Lake. One day when we were going to Silver Lake, we use to ride out there to watch the sulky horses in training at the harness track, we met some folks herding cattle down the Interurban Track. A couple had ropes that they were swinging and one man was using a bull whip. We got off the track and let them pass. Oh, how things have changed. My Grandfather, Roderick J. McDonald had a Richfield Service Station & Garage on Hwy 99 in Intercity. A pretty landscaped stucco station, garage and house, all gone now and some big parking lot for a mall or something, no place called Intercity any more, just south of Everett. Kit Olalla WA

I had an incident happen via a contact made on one of the other genealogy lists and am wondering if anyone has had a similar experience. I have a great-great grandmother whose maiden name I just discovered in May when I happened upon her tombstone in the cemetery where her son was buried (we know via cemetery records that he paid for the plots, and their surname isn't a common one). So, I have been researching this particular surname and find that in the county where she was born in 1801, there was only one family with the same surname in the 1790 census. And, although this doesn't prove anything, it does make it the most likely candidate. Well, I connected with a descendant of this family who seemed quite possessive of this family and was unwilling to share information as I hadn't actually been able to prove who her father was. The info he had didn't list a daughter by that name, but of course we all know that female relatives sometimes fell through the cracks as far as record keeping goes. He seemed incredulous to think I was a descendant of this family as well. How is it so difficult to think that when this family must have literally thousands of descendants today (there were 10 children). Does anyone have any idea of how to cope with someone with this attitude? How do I convince him that we are probably related so he will feel free to share what data he has? Thanks for listening. ~Maudeen Maudeen@bainbridge.net Book Reviewer -www.Amazon.com Genealogy surnames: WEATHERLY, INMAN, NEELING, CAMERON, SWIFT, CHASE, HAUSER, ARNEY, ROARK, BLAIR, CRAWFORD, PURCELL, HAZLETT, MILLIGAN, STAHL, SCHULZ, HENDERSHOT, OLMSTEAD, SPEAR, COLE, LEE, STUCKEY, FAY, THOMAS, CROSS Locations: Guilford Co, NC, Owen Co., IN, Marshall Co., IA, Medina Co., OH, Kossuth Co., IA, Cecil Co., MD, Chester CO., PA Washington Co., PA, Clayton Co., IA, Warren Co., NJ, Luzerne Co., PA

Snohomish Historical Society, Quarterly Newsletter for Members Winter 1998 pp 2, 3 QUOTED AS FOLLOWS: BIG SNOW?!. . . . . If you've heard anything about this coming winter, you've probably heard that it is going to be bad. Some reports had this coming winter being "the worst in 40 to 50 years." I was curious just how bad the really bad winters of the past hjad been. One report had them as delivering 6 to 10 feet of accumulated now! I delivered myself to the Northwest Room of the Everett Public Library on a mission. There are several notably bad winters on record in this area: 1879, 1893, 1916-17, and 1949-50. Dave Dilgard* indicated the winter of 1916-1917 had captured the bad news headlines for several reasons. He directed me to the specific articles then I sat down to read about them, and news in general, in the December 1916 through February 1917 editions of the Everett Daily Herald. Winter starts out mildly enough with nothing much out of the ordinary in December. Beginning with the first of the new year however, cold moved in along with snow. The novelty of the white stuff was reported good naturedly, at first. The papers report skating on the Snohomish River, and bobsledding parties; and there are instructions to motorists on how to manage traction, skids and hills. But in general, it appears people enjoyed the novelty of a chage of scenery. And the snows were not deep. Reports had the several snow falls that occured in the valley between a light snow, up to 6 inchjes, with slight warming and melting between storms. By the fourth week of Janu8ary 1917, the snow and cold is being reported with a certain impatience. Snow was reported graciously as "the beautifu" and "the fleecy flakes" where today these desciptions would cast doubt on the reporter's objectivity. But there is a less charitable undertone as well. On January 24 the Herald is full of bad winter news. In Snohomish's "Special to Daily Herald" report, the headline read "Winter's Big Comeback Proves Big Surprise." The reporter wrote "Snohomish might as well be called 'snow home' for the flaky substance began falling at 8 o'clock yesterday morning and when it ceased in the afternoon it was five inches deep, though considerable had melted before the snow stuck to the ground." In addition, the temperatures dropped to 13 degrees (F) and at noon was still several degrees below freezing. Pipes burst, sleighs were brought out. . . again, and people shovedled the walks. With every snowfall, people were being regularly reminded to remember the birds with seed. One story from Snohomish reported "a little song bird seemingly knew that food could be secured at Sydman's, although the grain there is only for game birds, and flew against the door stunning itself. The little feathered creature was taken inside, where it has regained its strength and still makes its home, roosting in a large rubber tree in the ice cream parlor." The big news on January 24th, however, was from the Cascades where several avalanches of immense accumulations of snow closed the rail lines and derailed a Burlington Northern train, killing 8 passengers. It was two days before the lines were cleared for train traffic, and three before the last body was recovered. January 31st delivered a final storm for the month. Skating ceased until the snow could be removed from the lakes. And, good news; at the close of January there were no fuel shortages expected. One novelty was reported from Gold Bar on January 31. "The Valley lSuppy company has finished cutting and storing 40 tons of ice. A number of residents have filled ice houses also. The ice is cut from the Gold Bar Lumber companys mill pond and has an average thickness of ten inches, perfectly clear." Most residents had never cut and stored ice before and "the Valley Supply company found difficulty in securing the services of men who know anything whatever about the business." The month of January closed with a tabulation of weather statistics. Snow falls totalling 2 feet, a low temperature of 7 degrees (F) above zero, and a high of 37 degrees (F). "On only two days was the lowest tempoerature above the freezing point." February 1st brought more snow to an existing base in Snohomish. A twenty foot bobsled, carrying "15 younk folk" hit the streets towed by an automobile. The snow ruined skating, but there was some speculation the Snohomish Rover would freeze again which would provide fresh, smooth ice. This snow fall also brought record breaaking snowfall to the Cascades. Seven feet of snow fell in twelve hours. Trains discontinued service because slearing the track was futile. At its highest point in the Cascades there were 19 feet of snow on the Great Northern line. More snow on February 2nd was adding to a growing accumulation and people were being warned to remove snow from building. Buildings were beginning to collapse under the weight of 15 inches of new snow over an existing base. Snohomish was recalling the deep snow of 1879 which had a recorded depth of 3 feet. On February 2 there was 3 feet on the ground in Snohomish and piles of cleared and drifted snow over 5 and 6 feet lining both sides of the streets. "Traffic has stopped. A Northern Pacific train is expected, from Seattle this afternoon. It may come, it may not. Attempts made to run the Skykomish local on the Great Northern have thus far failed. . . Schools are closed. All mills and logging cmps are shut down. A fuel shortage has made ita appearance. In some cases, families are 'doubling up'." The trouble was not fuel supplies, but delivery. On February 3, slightly warmer weather was expected. On February 4 this along with a flood tide delivered a spectacular know out punch: "Almost the entire mosquito fleet on the Snohomish River was wiped out early this morning when the flood tide, swept up the river, carrying with it the ice and logs which have jammed the stream above the Everett Avenue bridte for three days, stripping both shores, carrying before it boats and boathouses with resistless force. "Between 20 and 30 fishing boats and pleasure launches were crushed to kindling, some sinking in the river and others caught in the jam. ... The tide swept up the river about 3 o'clock this morning, and on the ebb between 6 and 7 o'clock this morning, the huge mass of ice, snow and logs, and wrecks of boats and boathouses was swept back again. The jam held again, and early this afternoon about a quarter mile of ice, logs and snow with several wrecks visible above the surface, was jammed above the bridge, awaiting the flood tide lat this afternoon which would send the mass up the river again." This was winter in early 1917. It didn't make 6 to 10 feet of accumulated snow but it probably made 6 to 10 feet of total snowfall. Whatever, it was certainly bad enough. Can we beat it this year? Let's not try. END OF QUOTED ARTICLE, UNSIGNED, but may have been written by Jan Lengenfelder, Pres. of SHS. * Dave Dilgard, very proficient Librarian at Everett Public Library's Northwest Room; historian extraordinaire of Local and NW ,and Indian (Nat. Amer.) History - a veritable goldmine of resources for history and anthropoligy of Puget Sound and the Pacific Northwest. Dave was very helpful to me when I was doing gen. research in the 1980s, finding the NW Room to be full of excellent sources for research, as well as the Library's historical resources other than the NW Room. It was really the History, and the NW Room of the older library that I was able to really get going and have success "playing clues" and discovering my Clark Family, since I had no brothers or sisters, no living relatives that I knew of - as far as I knew they were all buried in the Kent, WA cemetery. Shortly, I was able to find 130 of them down along the Columbia River who met annually since 1934 when I was 10 yrs old, yet I did not know of them. Everett Public Library was very helpful in allowing me find my roots, some buried, many alive. The 1983 Clark- Sorensen Reunion on the Columbia River meets annually. If I had been able to go this year, I would have been the only Clark by that surname there, as they are Clarks by birth - females. The last Clark elder to me died this past year in his 90s. Carroll of Snohomish, member in good order. * * * 30 * * * ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi John, Please excuse my delay in replying to you immediately after your excellent response to my questions: 1. Thank you for your descrption of Greater London area which I could easily follow with a Political Map of England, showing the various areas surrounding London in red that you called out-a much more vast area than I had originally imagined > In addition it contains the original City of London, >sometimes known >as the Square Mile, . >This is the >historic "London", most of it within the ancient walls. >Lewisham is south of the river in what used to be Kent, but now part >of the >county of [Greater] London. 150 years ago it was still pretty much a >village, I altered your description a bit for brevity as much as possible, as it is the historic London within the ancient walls, called the Square Mile that I am particularly interested in. 2. >The Guildhall is the ancient civic centre of London, in the City. I >visit it >sometimes when I go up to town, to do a bit of research at the >Guildhall >Library, which is a part of a new building at the edge of the >Guildhall's land, >and contains many of the old City of London archives. parish registers >etc. >Coleman Street, as you say, is a very short block to the east of the >Guildhall. The name goes back to the 12th >cent., and >may have been the name of the man who first built it, or there could >have been a >church dedicated to St Coleman there at one time. The road is still >quite >narrow, This is the particular area that I am interested in as my ancestry traces back to the St. Stephens' , Coleman Street church of 1637 where my James Clark (the immigrant ancestor of my straight Line) attended that church with Theophilus Eaton, and his friend Rev. John Davenport + the others of that Puritan congregation. That church was in some way associated with St. Olav church a short distance away. In 1983-84 when I had begun my interest in gen., I was able to find that the Coleman St. St. Stephens was originally a Jewish synagogue in say 1292 A.D. and it had been a church from that date until 1940 when it was bombed out of existence during WWII. It had been a synagogue during its earliest history, only. The St. Stephens church was subject to fire several times, I believe. Christopher Wren, the famous Architect of his time, designed, and rebuilt that church among the many others he had done in the City. At Seattle Library, I was fortunate to have found pix and sketches of that church showing the outer configuration, and much of the alter and inner furnishings of it which I made copies of. Rev. John Davenport had had to flee to the Netherlands at times to protect himself from persecution by the powers that be as the group was non-conforming to the expectations of the time. Eventually, in 1637, the group, many of whom were London merchants, were able leave London with the leaders Davenport and Eaton aboard the Hector, after some delay by authorities, for Massachusetts. The Hector was a 250 ton brig. - it and another ship unnamed in records at MA Bay Colony transported some 250 Puritans to MA. in that year. By 1638, many of that group were Founders of the New Haven Colony, and the village of New Haven, CT. I was able to get a copy of a line drawing of the 1641 map of New Haven which showed the names of the various colonists who settled there, with Eaton to be the Governor, and his friend John Davenport heading up the colony and the establishment of plantations, etc. The map actually shows the plantation of my direct Line, James Clark in 1641. When we visited London, in 1971, I recall seeing the Guildhall, though we didn't go inside. Here I was right in the area of my immigrant ancestor, but it would be 1984 before I was to learn that fact after I was bitten (by accident !) by the genalogy bug - and with great reaction! I did recall some of this information in my various history classes over the many years, but little did I know that I could relate to it more than I had ever anticipated. Then, in the late 1980s when we took a tour to London, and with the knowledge of the Coleman Street site, I was unable to take the time to really visit that area except to say that I took a city tour on a bus, and as we slowed only slightly, I looked out that bus window and there I saw the plaque on the Wall referring to Coleman Street annex or some such designation - that's all it took to pull off 2 shots from my trusty 35 mm Pentax, and through the bus window I was able to get 2 very good shots of that plaque and quite sharp and readable. That was all that was left from the Coleman Street, St Stephens church site that had been attended by my immigrant ancestor of 1637. A friend of mine however, did make it a point to visit Coleman Street earlir than our Tour trip and got pix of the street and of the street sign reading Coleman Street, to add to my collection. >> 3. Are you interested in genealogy, >I am indeed, . . . . . . . the surnames DRIVER and KEYWOOD which are among those >that interest >me,. . . . the chance of establishing a family link is quite slender. >Two of my >grandmother's Keywood brothers emigrated to the USA in the earlier >part of this >century, and ended their lives in Tacoma, which is why I became >interested in >that part of the world. I do not know if they have left any >descendants, but >one of their daughters, Gladys E. Keywood, married a Clyde WILLIAMS. >My other >interests include STAPLETON and my mother-in-law's family name CLARKE John, I am hoping that someone who reads this might see some surnames that might possibly have a tie, or suggest some sort of tie. Send us as much info re your Tacoma branch that you can muster and we will try to help you, as there are a lot of Tacoma folk that read this. I, too, have ties with Tacoma, with my SCOTT Line - just recently, even though I have not had success so far with my SCOTT Line, I was very successfull with my ATKINSON Line when I subscribed to ATKINSON -D@rootsweb.com and with my 1st query CONNECTED to my Atkinson Line in California, and was able to learn the surname of my Grt Grt Grandmother, Elizabeth SWIFT of Co. Down, Ireland who came to PA. at age 11 in the late 1800s, and even what ship she came over on. And I am told that there is much info about her + pix of her which I will eventually receive. Thanks to the Rootsweb system, and various other search media, I am finding that playing clues, and diligence works - & about the time when you "give up" can be the most opportune time in gen. I may even find my Scott Line, yet ! >> 4. John, I noticed that you had a Clarke surname that you mentioned - your mother-in-law's family. If you could supply some info about that, I could see what I might be able to do with it. If it is England, then I probably wouldn't be much help, however. I can't be sure of the parents of my Immigrant ancestor, James Clark. There are some who "claim" to know the parentage, but to my knowledge, none has been really proven, so I keep it up on the "shelf" for more proof in the future, if it happens. > if you're ever here again is the Museum of >London , not all that far from the Guildhall. I haven't been able to visit it - a Tour is one thing, but being on your own is another. I prefer the latter. In 1984, I purchased a copy of American Ancestors and Cousins of The Princess of Wales by Roberts & Reitwiesner pub. by Geneal. Pub'g . Co. Inc. of Baltimore MD. I had no idea at the time, that I was to find several of my Lines in that 194 pp. book. My Gibson Line, Tuttle Line, and Lathrop/Lothrop Lines were all in there and even some Clark ties. All these Lines came over in the 1630s, all with large families, so you and I may be distantly related, and we don't know it - yet! LOL (LAFFING OUT LOUD!- my spelling!) Please keep in touch John, and I hope that someone sees someone out there sees a DRIVER, KEYWOOD, WILLIAMS, STQAPLETON, CLARKE, et al and we can be as informative as you have with me re Greater London. Our Seasons Greetings of course. Write again asap. Carroll in Snohomish WA. 30 mi NE of Seattle - about 3000 pop within the city limits they say but seems more like the 30,000 that surrounds us ! Oh, yes, John this is the burg where the cemetery has been "dis-used", abused, desecrated, uncrated, abandoned, unrecognized, invaded, and built upon despite the remains beneath it ! Judged to be available for further invasion in a county Superior Court decision. Snohomish Cemetery, aka Pilchuck Cemetery, aka Indian Cemetery ! Amen ! & & & 30 & & & ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Sorry, I don't. I know one family personally in Port Angeles. Their son and mine used to play together and are now 19 yrs old. Sorry I can't help, Gayle gayle@olypen.com Please vist my new homepage http://www.olypen.com/gayle/home.html -----Original Message----- From: Pam Dollarhide <misha@foxinternet.net> To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 8:20 PM Subject: Re: Doty :Do you have any links to Doty's in Tacoma area? I grew up with a Doty :family (lived right across the street). The daughter and her husband are :still living there. Father's name was June Doty. Daughter is Barbara. :-----Original Message----- :From: Becky A Morris <bm8404@toro.awc.cc.az.us> :To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> :Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 7:13 PM :Subject: Doty : : :>I'm looking for any info on the Doty family of Port Angeles area please :>Thank you Becky :> :> : :

Do you have any links to Doty's in Tacoma area? I grew up with a Doty family (lived right across the street). The daughter and her husband are still living there. Father's name was June Doty. Daughter is Barbara. -----Original Message----- From: Becky A Morris <bm8404@toro.awc.cc.az.us> To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 7:13 PM Subject: Doty >I'm looking for any info on the Doty family of Port Angeles area please >Thank you Becky > >

There are 8 Doty families listed in the Port Angeles directory and I am sure they would also be listed in 411 online. Have you tried calling these families? -----Original Message----- From: Becky A Morris <bm8404@toro.awc.cc.az.us> To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, December 03, 1998 7:15 PM Subject: Doty :I'm looking for any info on the Doty family of Port Angeles area please :Thank you Becky : :

I'm looking for any info on the Doty family of Port Angeles area please Thank you Becky

Message text written by INTERNET:PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com >Does anyone know if the Heritage Quest Library in Sumner has available the microfilms that are available for purchase/rental from Heritage Quest. < Heritage Quest has some microfilm on hand. I'm not sure if you can still order it or not. I was told about a year or so ago that the price had increased significantly. Colette

Hi Janet, I just spent the day looking through Tacoma 1900. I don't have a soundex. I found Jeseph Dorfner (b Sept 1841) and Katherine (b July 1848). Their children Addie (b May 1884),Charles (b Apr 1886), and Francis (b Aug 1891). Joseph was a Teamster and immigrated in 1860. Katherine had 10 living children. I also found George Dorfner(b Apr 1874) and his wife Mary (B Sept 1875) with their son George (b Feb 1899). I also found a Walter Dorfner (b Dec 1884) living with another family. Do you think is one of their children? I thought maybe you or your cousin might want this information. Diane H