Hi all - The Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society's monthly meeting will be today, Tuesday, January 12th beginning at 6:30 pm. Our topic will be: Understanding Early American Handwriting by Andi MacDonald As we are able to track more and more of our ancestors, we delve into older and older records. So often we come upon old wills, diaries, or papers which seem to be written in a foreign language, interpreting them seems impossible. This presentation is an introduction to the techniques employed by experts for deciphering early American handwriting, and some hints for when the techniques don't work. What is learned will be put to use in a group project designed for the beginner. Capitalization, abbreviations, numbers, and spelling will be covered. We always have cookies and treats at our meetings. Our venue is the Olympic Room at the Tacoma Public Library, 1102 Tacoma Avenue South, Tacoma, Washington. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/meetings.htm for an online map and driving directions to the Library. Guests are always welcome at the TPCGS monthly meetings. You need not be a member to attend our free monthly meetings. See you there. Cheers - Mark -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ markhow@oz.net

Hi everyone, I just bought a book about Virginia and would be happy to do lookups. It is a complete list of all cadets in the Virginia Military Institute from its inception in 1839 to the 1950s. It lists the cadets name and city when enrolling, occupation, military assignments and address and date of death. Thanks! Cheryl Hawley

I was born at 933 Bailey St in 1934. This was in the Georgetown area when it was safe to be in Seattle. Anyone know where this is now or was then? Was it the Georgetown hospital? Thanks...Glen Grace native 3rd gen

On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Kenneth Devenny wrote: > I was born in the old Seattle General Hospital and would appreciate if > anyone could tell me where it was located in Seattle and when it closed. > Thank you. > > Ken Devenny > Kensgenes@sprintmail.com Don't know how young you are, Ken. In '58 Seattle General was at 5th Ave. & Marion on the NW corner. Think it had been there for at least 20 years but haven't researched it. About '69 or so they moved to the old Maynard Hosp. bldg. on First Hill. Since then I think they were absorbed by Doctors Hosp. which has been absorbed by Virginia Mason Hosp. Only three hospitals remain on First Hill, aka Pill Hill. John *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====* # John Wm Sloniker <johnwms@serv.net> Seattle, WA # # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*

I was born in the old Seattle General Hospital and would appreciate if anyone could tell me where it was located in Seattle and when it closed. Thank you. Ken Devenny Kensgenes@sprintmail.com

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_916093507_boundary Content-ID: <0_916093507@inet_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I thought someone might benefit from this information. Evelyn --part0_916093507_boundary Content-ID: <0_916093507@inet_out.mail.compuserve.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <Maggie_Ohio-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-yc04.mx.aol.com (rly-yc04.mail.aol.com [172.18.149.36]) by air-yc05.mail.aol.com (v55.5) with SMTP; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:21:51 -0500 Received: from bl-30.rootsweb.com (bl-30.rootsweb.com [207.113.245.30]) by rly-yc04.mx.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id RAA02000; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:21:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-30.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA21625; Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:18:02 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:18:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:14:06 -0500 From: Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman <73777.25@compuserve.com> Subject: Fw:Confederate POWs list (Louisville KY) Sender: Maggie Stewart-Zimmerman <73777.25@compuserve.com> Old-To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com Message-ID: <199901111717_MC2-662F-8455@compuserve.com> Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <"sHizd.A.XOF.Kinm2"@bl-30.rootsweb.com> To: Maggie_Ohio-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: Maggie_Ohio-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: Maggie_Ohio-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <Maggie_Ohio-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/13838 X-Loop: Maggie_Ohio-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Maggie_Ohio-L-request@rootsweb.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit ------------------------------------------------------------------ FORWARDED MESSAGE - Orig: 10-Jan-99 1:42 Subject: [Fwd: [VAAUGUST-L] Fwd. from another List....Confederate] From: Don Furnish donlfurnish@copper.net ------------------------------------------------------------------ Message-ID: <801572@sheridan.copper.net> From: Angel329@prodigy.net To: DonlFurnish Date: 9 Jan 1999 18:07:00 EDT Subject: [VAAUGUST-L] Fwd. from another List....Confederate I thought this was a very important website and felt there are many out there who would also want it. This is a listing of the Confederate POWs who died while prisoners in the Louisville Military Prison, and were buried in Cave Hill Cemetery, Louisville, KY. Most of these were either wounded, or too sick to send to prisons further North, such as Camps Morton, Douglas, Chase, &c. As POWs began to die there, local Unionists did not want them buried with the Union dead, so a couple of well-to-do Confederate sympathizers bought and donated ground in Cave Hill Cemetery, which later became the Confederate sections. (Some CS POWs did, however, end up buried among the Federals in what became the National Cemetery.) ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ky/jefferson/cemeteries/cavehill.txt There is also a Georgia woman, Elizabeth Timms, buried among the CS POWs. She was taken from her home when the Federals passed by in 1864 and shipped North (her husband was away in the ANV). She was imprisoned in the women's section of the LMP, and died there (reportedly due to mistreatment at the hands of Dr. Mary Walker). Her dying wish was "bury me with my people," which is where she lies to this day. If anyone has any corrections to the names, ranks, or units on this listing, based on research into unit records, I would very much appreciate it if you would pass it on, so I can correct the list. ============================== ============================== Geoff Walden <gwalden@sw.cybersurf.de> Sons of Confederate Veterans Gen. Ben Hardin Helm Camp 1703 ============================== ==============================Diana Kinzer Heath ==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== **************************************************************** Visit the Augusta County VAGenWeb Site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaaugust/ **************************************************************** !^NavFont02F07E80007NGHHNEA1296 Maggie's World of Courthouse Dust & Genealogy Fever http://www.infinet.com/~dzimmerm/mindex.html *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* God Put Me On Earth to Accomplish a Certain Number of Things. Right Now I am so far behind, I will never die. --- Unknown *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Wishing you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a New Year filled with good health, good friends, and more than enough good luck. *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* ==== Maggie_Ohio Mailing List ==== Welcome to Buckeye Chat Genealogy! (For Genealogy Only Subscribe to OHROOTS-L list.) To search this list go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl and enter Maggie_Ohio for the list name. --part0_916093507_boundary--

My Mom was born in Seattle General in 1910, but never really marked where it was located. Knew it was on Pill Hill tho. Evelyn

I have a heavy hearted need for an obituary in 2 Washington newspapers. Does anyone have easy access to making a copy of the following two obits in the Seattle Times and the Seattle PI?: McKELVEY, Allen Arthur; 42; Seattle P-I; 1995-12-16; MCKELVEY, Allen Arthur; 42; Seattle WA; Seattle Times; 1995-12-16; I would really appreciate this, costs re-imbursed of course. PLEASE email me personally. Sincerely, -- \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // ( @ @ ) -oOOo-(_)-oOOo- Rose CAUDLE TERRY BILYEU Listowner/Listmother (genealogical) & Proud RootsWeb Sponsor RMTerry@prodigy.net or cxwp57@prodigy.com http://www.genealogy.bilyeu.com/

ANYONE who might have Bonnie Sears' e-mail address, I am in need of it. Both of us share TUTTLE genealogy from Colonial times. I did have e-mail contact with her sometime back, but I have since lost her addr and I would like to contact her. She was, and probably still is, on Whidbey Island, possibly around Freeland area. She was instrumental in starting the Sno-Isle Genealogical Society in the Lynnwood area. It was there that I first met Bonnie, and during a class in gen. we took together in Everett, WA. we found that our gen. tied into the TUTTLE Line, and established our distant kinship. I would appreciate hearing from anyone that could make it possible to communicate with her. She may see this, as she saw some of my writing quite some time ago, and e-mailed me, but I have lost her e-mail addr. Thank you, Carroll in Snohomish clarkw7iml@juno.com <><><><><><><> ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

IF you were to go to Search on this freei.net site and type the familiar word Genealogy in the Search window, you would see the Answer to my question - who would you see there ? Why, none other than our Cyndi - Cyndi's List sites, along with other refs to genealogy. Now, perhaps you have friends, some of whom cannot afford that monthly fee for Internet access, and all the benefits of being able to genealogy via the web. Here is a break for them to join in on the Fun of piecing our family puzzles together, and opening those doors to communications, plus communcations with "ties" to their families, near and far, ancestral and living ties to enjoy, including the "skeletons in the closets" so to speak that comes with the "bad blood" that we all, nearly, run into, eventually. Family contrast, and other unsavory expressions - but, all in the Family, just the same. Enyoy! Carroll in Snohomish, on another Frequency! B.S. in Language, et slanguage. P.S. I use clarkw7iml@juno.com for E-MAIL, as I prefer it there, Thanks! <><><>30<><><> Ca Carroll Clark, Snohomish, WA. 30 mi NE of Seattle. Ham Radio, Genealogy, Science. > > > ^ PLVS VLTRA ^ < < <

MY FRIENDS, If you haven't heard of this, haven't tried it, or if you know of someone who cannot afford the circa $15-$20/mo. fee for Web access on the Internet, then, try this as an experiment. Go to www.freei.net site if you have acces; read and weep! IT's there for those who want it or need it. It can be downloaded in order to make disks for yourself; for others who would care. I did, I am, I took 2 disks to an 89 yr old ham friend who lives on a limited income who had Juno only, and could not hack the monthly fee. It ties up his 1 phone line, just as it does mine when on line, but nothing is "Free" is it - w/o some sort of obligation or attachment to the "free". How does www.freei.net do it - advertising, they say! How long will it last? Time will tell, and we hope THEY are right. In the meantime, here is a source to try. For instance, on the freei.net site, bring up SEARCH, just enter Genealogy, and what do you get ? To find the answer to this question, look for it on w7iml@wa.freei.net You couldn't begin to guess WHO is there! But, now I will go over there and e-mail the ANSWER from that site. Try it, I think you and others who would care to might find it interesting. And "FREE" ! Carroll in Snohomish. B.S. in Language. (Including my misspellings of "oman" and other phonetics!, non-paragraphing, & other quirks of language that I didn't used to do.) Now, to w7iml@wa.freei.net > > > > > <><><><><> ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi, My name is Chuck Burden. I'm doing some family history research and have come to a “Dorothy Abell” in a current branch that dead ends. My family history database is over 6,000 family members dating back as far as 1116 in Kent England. I have spent over 11 years working on the project on and off. “Dorothy” seems to be a bit of a mister for me. The only information I have is very limited, my best guess is that her birth would be around 1946 give or take a few years and her birthplace is believed to be of Washington State. If you have any information on Dorothy or have an interest in the “Abell” family line I would be very eager to begin establishing a line of communications with you. Otherwise please forgive my intrusion and delete this email.

Hello, I have been researching my husband's ggg-aunt, Jerusha HARTFORD, b. abt 1829. I have followed her from IN to IA to NE and now to Seattle, WA. Jerusha's brother's obit, in 1915, states that he has a sister, Josie Hartford living in Seattle. In 1900 I found Jerusha living with her son Andrew Hartford in Butler Co., NE. I imagine that she must have moved with Andrew's family to Seattle. Jerusha also has a son named Granville Hartford. There is the possibility that she is a member of his household. Is anyone else familiar with these Hartford's? I am very interested in finding them in the 1910 and 1920 census along with death date for Jerusha. I have the census microfilms available to me but I do not have the Soundex index. I would be very greatful for any help someone might give me on these folks. Thank you, Ann Maxson Houston, TX pjmaxson@flash.net

If you are researching any of the lines below, I urge you to contact me by E- mail. I am not researching theses lines, but I have access to information that could be very helpful to you in your research (pictures, documents, etc.). These items are free (pay postage only) to a good home with someone who will value them and take care of them. So, if you are searching any of these lines or would like further information please e-mail me (JLynnSchus@aol.com). James LIDDELL (1728) married Margaret GLEN (1738) and had: Elizabeth, Andrew, Jean (1763), Archibald, Margaret, William, James, Alexander, Robert, John and Thomas. Jean LIDDELL (from above) married John MILLER (1762) and had: John (1790), Archibald, Margat, Jean, William, Alex, Andrew, and James. John MILLER (from above) married Mary ROMANS (1793) and had: Mary Jean, Elizabeth Ann (1831), John, and Margaret Liddell. Elizabeth Ann MILLER married William ARMSTRONG (1834) and had R. A., George W., Susan, Bessie, Maggie, and Mary Romans. Judy

Brigitte: I will check on the status of a German American newspaper in Tacoma this next week when I go in town. Maxine Alexander

In a message dated 99-01-08 21:53:11 EST, you write: << rthfrd@open.org (Beth Rutherford) >> Hi, I would be interested in the address for Tacoma newspapers. I am trying to locate a German-American newspaper that supposedly published an article about a chance meeting of 2 DRUMM brothers. Thanks, Brigitte in Arizona

Remember, how I reacted to all those "dittys" that I used to receive from various friends. I usually deleted them, returned them, or told the senders that I don't accept that stuff - because way back in the 1 cent postal card days of the '20s & '30s etc. we heard about the WWI veteran that had written from Flanders Fields (French burial grounds for the ones who gave their lives "Over There"). The appeal was to copy and send 10 copies of that message to others, friends, whomever, for Good Luck, and if you didn't do so you would eventually come up on Bad Luck - an oman. In the '20s & early 30s, because of the Depression, the 1929 Bank Failures, people did NOT need any Bad Luck, so you took the Risk, and wrote post cards/& or Letters to spread the word. They became known as Chain Letters. Those Chain Letters then developed into all sorts of gimmicks - money, hankies (fancy handkerchiefs for looks, popular in those times). Eventually, the chain letters developed into the Pyramids, by writing large numbers of letters, and enclosing money, booze, whatever, you would "get rich" on whatever the item might be. The Postal Inspectors put a kibosh on the $$$ thing. The Federal Communications Commission, among those deregulated, had clout with the communications in the U.S. (including telephone lines). And so it goes, or Passes, that we become gullible for such schemes to get something for little or nothing, and it is so inviting and "seems to make sense" that if we follow through with the directions, that you, too will be the benefactor of all this uncanny effort to become "Lucky" and so that you won't have "Bad Luck" if you "Break the Chain". The word "chain" itself had color in early times, there were "Chain Gangs"at Prisons, and in Timber, or Saw Mills. "Radar" became "big", and "FM", and "Stereo", and "virus" ( the medical world, and now the Computer World aka Cyberspace, after the Space word has been bandied about). Isn't it interesting how the "human being" gets "caught up" in intellectual paraguese? The era of the ______-gate has nearly run its gamut, and now we keep adding new and more "mysterious" words, abbreviations, expressions to our utterances, spoken, and written - even "e-mailed". Webster, Oxford, and the rest in each of their newer editions have to decide what new expletives have been "coined" sufficiently to be added to the collection. I used to hit the dictionaries of slang, and the various other dictionaries of color (variety), as they are almost as interesting as the dictionaries, or books on the derivation of words over the centuries - try them, they are fascinating reading. All this from a penny post card, or a 2, or 3 cent stamp for an envelope, whereas it is now 33 cents, but times have changed - the 3 cents "back then" would probably buy as much as the 33 cents does today. It is hard to believe that a person could buy a meal - and a pretty darned good one for 5 cents, but I just saw it on TV the other nite when I was watching one of them (sic) "talking pitchers!". Keep those cards and letters coming, soz ya won't have any Bad Luck - the Weather is Bad Enough, let alone the "Luck" - those who Play the Lotto ( as I do!) know whereby we speak. Don't take any Wooden Nickles! (What brought all this dissertation about - Well I received a Spoof on the Scare e-mail that we get ever so often, from my good friend Lady Dari, aka the Bookstorelady, that runs that den of iniquity, called the 3rd. Street Bookstore in Marysville. I won't reprint the Spoof, but it includes, the chain letters, Bill Gates, "Join the Crew", or Crewe, and other little ditties that have popped up on our screens, including the Storm Warnings of 1989-1999, which I contributed to the melee, late Summer, or early Fall. Just when we tho't we had it all under our hats, now the millenium is coming - you get that Baby going, and throw in the Position of the Planets, and your Psychics will have full time jobs, keeping all of us informed, if the TV Channels fail to do so.). What can they do with the word G E N E A L O G Y ? Totem Poles are now becoming known as Story Poles, and the word Totem Pole isn't even mentioned. New Math, New Language! Isn't it Wunnerful ? Carroll in Snohomish B.S. in Languages <><><>{{{{LADY DARI}}}}<><><> ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Have read with interest Carroll's comments on the Brown site. As a result, I sent in my family info last night. Thanks, Carroll! Will breathlessly await all kinds of goodies! I noticed, Carroll, that you had quite a few Browns from the New England area quite early. I have traced my Browns back to 1797 in Packersfiled, Nelson County, VT. My gggggrandfather was John BROWN who married Joanna ? & had a daughter Joanna Heaton in 1797. This info was in the Town Records of Franklin, Belvidere Co., VT. I haven't yet contacted the NH Gen Society, which I am hoping could shed some light on who John's wife was & who were John's parents. In the meantime, I am searching these GREAT lists on Rootsweb! I'm sure you'll see my query on the Brown list, Carroll. Anyway, through the Browns (my grandmother was a Brown from IL) I am trying to find out if my grandfather, William CLINE was ever a bodyguard to the Tacoma mayor sometime between 1910 & 1930 in Tacoma. Our family was separated when I was just a small child, but have kept in touch sporadically with my siblings. This last year I have been in constant touch with my older siblings who have filled in geneo gaps for me. One of the things my brother told me was that a story our grandfather (William) told him was that he (Wm) was a bodyguard for the mayor & that he killed someone on the county courthouse steps during a threat to the mayor. Could anyone check this out with local newspapers? If no one has the availability to old newspapers or history, I have gotten the address to write to some of the old Tacoma papers. Just thought someone may be familiar with this. Thanking everyone in advance! Beth Rutherford Turner, OR

The name TUTTLE hits a stone wall for me. Rose (Rosa) Buck was married to a man named TUTTLE. Rose was born about 1869 in Bushnell IL. She and her family moved to Dakota Territory in 1879. Rose married and had three daughters, Lulu, Fern and Elizabeth and possibly a son. Her parents were Henry Buck and Mary L. Rumsey. My last reference to Rose when she was mentioned in her mother's obit as Rose BRADY, Shell Lake WI. I am searching for knowledge about Rose and her children. Does Rose appear in any of your TUTTLE genealogy? Al amf@gorge.net

Patty: I noted that you have a TUTTLE line. did you have a Phylinda TUTTLE who married Levi FLINT in Oswego, NY? Married about 1844. She was born in Oswego County, NY about 1827. Their children were: Ellen, Andrew, Edward, Charles, Benjamin, Eunice and Robert. Thanks. Evelyn at JOHuffER@aol.com.