Hi Andi, Please send to me info about the legislation regarding protecting old/abandoned cems. Sincerely, Janet Andrea D. MacDonald wrote: > Hello all, > > As many of you know, the Snohomish Cemetery trial sparked an interest for me in Washington > state's old or abandoned cemeteries quite a while back. It affected me so much so that I > gathered support from some concerned citizens and formed the Kitsap County Cemetery > Association to care for old or abandoned cemeteries in Kitsap County. That group grew to > become the Washington State Cemetery Association which has made remarkable strides over > the last year. We want to protect these old cemeteries as they are a vast resource for > genealogists and they are disappearing at an alarming rate. > > Our main goal was to introduce new legislation which would protect these old cemeteries. > Over the last year, I and several others have worked hard at understanding cemetery laws > and watched the Snohomish Cemetery trial to learn all we could. We also started putting > together a listing of cemeteries in Washington state (it can be found at the web site > below) as we felt that those who do transcriptions might like to know all of the > cemeteries available to transcribe. We found that there are as many forgotten cemeteries > as there are active cemeteries. > > A week ago on my bi-weekly trip to Olympia, I stopped in my legislator's office to ask a > few questions about legislation and after speaking with her aid, was hustled into a > meeting just today which went very well. In the meeting was an aid who will actually > write the legislation and he said it would be done tomorrow. The calendar for this bill > is very quick. Everything must be done by March 6. THAT INCLUDES THE PUBLIC HEARING. > And this is where all of you come in. > > I'm getting the word out now that sometime in February there will be a public hearing in > Olympia on the new legislation. This bill will need people to call in to their local > legislators to voice their support, and especially it will need people to come to the > hearing to show their support. The more people there, the better it will go. > > If you would like specific information on the bill, please send me an email with your name > and email address and a note that you would like the information, and as it comes in, I'll > forward it to each of you. > > Anyone wishing to forward this message to another list, or to other individuals, please > feel free to do so. I am contacting senior citizens groups and historical socieities as > well as genealogical societies. > > -------------- > Andrea D. MacDonald "Andi" > andimac@oz.net > > Washington State Cemetery Association > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wapsgs/

Their names? I have an extensive Puget Sound ship/ferry library and will check indexes.

Hi Carroll - I'm afraid I have to agree with the two people who posted objections tonight regarding your most recent note on PSRoots. I appreciate your enthusiasm and your willingness to share with everyone, but the list does need to be limited to genealogical-related topics for the Puget Sound area. Please be sure that posts in the future will be of interest to our 250+ friends on the list that all share the same interest in genealogy for our region of the world. Thanks for your help in making our list great, Cyndi At 07:44 AM 1/29/99 -0800, you wrote: >Truthfulness >Accountability >Communications >Trust > >That was the Focal Point for the group of concerned citizens that met >Tues. Jan 26, 1999 at the PUD, Public Utility District meeting room, >Maple St., Snohomish 7 p.m. >A Town Meeting per the sign directing people to convene. <snip>

I second the opinion. What did any of this have to do with genealogy? I only scanned it but if there was two ounces of appropriate content it wasn't apparent to me. Please limit this site to the subject at hand. George Lowe EFlad@aol.com wrote: > I am sorry, but I am getting more than a little upset that this genealogy > mailing list is being used for political propoganda. I hope that something > will be done about people using this list to post political meetings, and > then following up with the minutes or opinions of the meetings! If this > person is so into the politics of his/her city, then she/he needs to start a > political list and leave this one to the researching of our Pacific Northwest > families. > Beth Fladaker

Hello all, As many of you know, the Snohomish Cemetery trial sparked an interest for me in Washington state's old or abandoned cemeteries quite a while back. It affected me so much so that I gathered support from some concerned citizens and formed the Kitsap County Cemetery Association to care for old or abandoned cemeteries in Kitsap County. That group grew to become the Washington State Cemetery Association which has made remarkable strides over the last year. We want to protect these old cemeteries as they are a vast resource for genealogists and they are disappearing at an alarming rate. Our main goal was to introduce new legislation which would protect these old cemeteries. Over the last year, I and several others have worked hard at understanding cemetery laws and watched the Snohomish Cemetery trial to learn all we could. We also started putting together a listing of cemeteries in Washington state (it can be found at the web site below) as we felt that those who do transcriptions might like to know all of the cemeteries available to transcribe. We found that there are as many forgotten cemeteries as there are active cemeteries. A week ago on my bi-weekly trip to Olympia, I stopped in my legislator's office to ask a few questions about legislation and after speaking with her aid, was hustled into a meeting just today which went very well. In the meeting was an aid who will actually write the legislation and he said it would be done tomorrow. The calendar for this bill is very quick. Everything must be done by March 6. THAT INCLUDES THE PUBLIC HEARING. And this is where all of you come in. I'm getting the word out now that sometime in February there will be a public hearing in Olympia on the new legislation. This bill will need people to call in to their local legislators to voice their support, and especially it will need people to come to the hearing to show their support. The more people there, the better it will go. If you would like specific information on the bill, please send me an email with your name and email address and a note that you would like the information, and as it comes in, I'll forward it to each of you. Anyone wishing to forward this message to another list, or to other individuals, please feel free to do so. I am contacting senior citizens groups and historical socieities as well as genealogical societies. -------------- Andrea D. MacDonald "Andi" andimac@oz.net Washington State Cemetery Association http://www.rootsweb.com/~wapsgs/

I am sorry, but I am getting more than a little upset that this genealogy mailing list is being used for political propoganda. I hope that something will be done about people using this list to post political meetings, and then following up with the minutes or opinions of the meetings! If this person is so into the politics of his/her city, then she/he needs to start a political list and leave this one to the researching of our Pacific Northwest families. Beth Fladaker

Please fwd to Joyce Wans, also, John. Carroll I just subscribed to the L version as I have never seen that format & how it comes to the subscribers. I have always used the D version which I am currently subscribed to on my OTHER Juno accout the w7iml@juno.com one. Carroll. I don't know if you got this msg or not but thot I'd pass it on to you. Below: On Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:31:30 -0800 Doris Crawford <dorisc@pacifier.com> writes: >I'm very new at sending messages and replying to messages. Please >forgive me if this not correct. I would very much like to thank Joyce >Wans and John Sloniker for their very informative answers to my query >on >Federal Land Records. > >I also believe in the "hands on" approach too in finding answers in >the >archives. I wish I could travel to all the courthouses and archival >facilities but I have way too many ancestors coming from all parts of >the country and a very limited budget. I think I had died and gone to >heaven if I got the treasure trove that Joyce got on her visit to the >Federal Archives. > >I guess I still have a lot to learn on land records. For one thing I >had thought since Cornelius MILLER had taken his family to Michigan >from >New York in the early 1830s that he was looking for something better >than he had in New York, meaning that he was broke. If I am correct >in >my research, his mother was a widow during his youth and living very >precariously (a relative sold her property back to her for $1 after >she >had originally lost it). So, I did not think he had any money and >would have gone to Michigan to get a start. But, he had $100 to buy >80 >acres! So, I guess I didn't know the difference between homesteading >and purchasing the land. Anyway, I appreciate all the help I receive. > >Thanks, Doris > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi, TacomaPierce County Genealogyal Society (TPCGS) has been able to locate the elusive Otto DRUMM for me. I knew that he came to Tacoma after emigrating from Germany. At the time of his death in Tacoma, his son, Otto DRUMM, and two daughters, Mrs. Ella REINHARDT, and Mrs. August JONAS and six grandchildren are listed in the orbit in 1940. His son, Otto DRUMM jr., was married to Marie S. LEBLANC. They had two daughters, Mrs. Margaret LARSON of Des Moines and Mrs. Louise Ferguson of Puyallup surviving after their deaths in 1979 and 1975. I am hoping that somebody may have a connection to these daughters and/or grand-daughters. Brigitte

Wendy, Click below mailto:PSROOTS-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com Maybe following a link will help. Nora -- Mailto:Norahiatt@sprintmail.com Maxine Correa Where are YOU??? http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/i/a/Nora-Ann-Hiatt-WA/

Thanks, Andi. Someone sent me the name of the newspaper over there and I will be writing them for a copy. Thank you so much for responding. Antoinette "Andrea D. MacDonald" wrote: > Antoinette, > > For just the newspaper column, send an SASE to > > Puget Sound Genealogical Society > 1026 Sidney Ave, #110 > Port Orchard, WA 98366 > > They should be able to have one of their researchers come up with this list for you. They > may be charging for research now. > > Andi > > -----Original Message----- > From: Antoinette Waughtel Sorensen <waughtel@oz.net> > To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 8:13 AM > Subject: KITSAP COUNTY WEDDING LICENSE > > >Was wondering if anyone on the list might live in/or subscribe to the > >newspaper carrying marriage lists from Port Orchard? My granddaughter > >had to apply over there as her "intended" stationed at Bangor could not > >get time off to come to Tacoma to apply for the license. I really would > >like a copy of the page of the paper showing this record and will > >reimburse costs. The persons involved are Malinda Antoinette Helm (of > >Tacoma) and Christopher Todd (stationed at Bangor but of Oleans, IN). > >They applied Thursday January 21st at the Port Orchard courthouse/city > >hall. E-mail me for my address including costs, etc., if you are > >willing or able to do this for me. > >Thank you. > >Antoinette > >waughtel@oz.net > >http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/savannah/252/homepage.htm > > > > > > > > -- Researching: Alkire, Breckenridge, Burton, Cann, Claypool(e), Denton, Daugherty, Dunbar, Evans, Gorrell, Hagan, Jimenez, Keel, Keith, Kern/es, Ladner, Lawler, Leffler, Littell, Merrifield, Norris, Pettyjohn, Ponsler, Robertson, Robinson, Rogers, Sinex, Sinnickson, Stiddem/Stidham, Tossawa/Tussey, Vantreese, Wachtel/Waughtel, Walker, White, Wilcox, Winfield

Antoinette, For just the newspaper column, send an SASE to Puget Sound Genealogical Society 1026 Sidney Ave, #110 Port Orchard, WA 98366 They should be able to have one of their researchers come up with this list for you. They may be charging for research now. Andi -----Original Message----- From: Antoinette Waughtel Sorensen <waughtel@oz.net> To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 8:13 AM Subject: KITSAP COUNTY WEDDING LICENSE >Was wondering if anyone on the list might live in/or subscribe to the >newspaper carrying marriage lists from Port Orchard? My granddaughter >had to apply over there as her "intended" stationed at Bangor could not >get time off to come to Tacoma to apply for the license. I really would >like a copy of the page of the paper showing this record and will >reimburse costs. The persons involved are Malinda Antoinette Helm (of >Tacoma) and Christopher Todd (stationed at Bangor but of Oleans, IN). >They applied Thursday January 21st at the Port Orchard courthouse/city >hall. E-mail me for my address including costs, etc., if you are >willing or able to do this for me. >Thank you. >Antoinette >waughtel@oz.net >http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/savannah/252/homepage.htm > > > >

Anyone doing any work on the surname Whitbeck. Let me know. Here's an outline of what I have so far. Descendants of Robert J. Whitbeck 1 Robert J. Whitbeck 1859 - 1943 b: August 09, 1859 in Rockford, Winngo, Illonois d: May 19, 1943 in Astoria, Oregon .. +Mary Christine Smith 1859 - 1943 b: December 11, 1859 in Piatt County, Ilonois d: February 04, 1943 ......... 2 Julias Frances Whitbeck 1881 - Abt 1898 b: August 17, 1881 in Ennis Ellis Texas d: Abt November 1898 ......... 2 Rienette Whitbeck 1887 - 1961 b: December 13, 1887 in Enias, Ellis, Texas d: July 24, 1961 in Portland, OR ............. +Elias Cole 1880 - Abt 1934 b: May 22, 1880 in Canada d: Abt 1934 in Deep River, Wahkiakum County, Washington .................... 3 Richard Elias Cole 1905 - 1938 b: November 16, 1905 in Astoria, OR d: April 08, 1938 ........................ +Ruth .................... *2nd Wife of Richard Elias Cole: ........................ +Ethel Corron .................... 3 Floyd Albert Sr. Cole 1908 - 1975 b: February 05, 1908 in Astoria, OR d: January 19, 1975 in Portland, OR ........................ +Bonnie G. Biltgen 1914 - 1990 b: August 21, 1914 in Portland, OR d: January 16, 1990 in Portland, OR ............................... 4 Floyd Albert Jr. Cole 1945 - b: March 09, 1945 in Portland, OR ................................... +Judith Ann Ghramm 1947 - b: January 03, 1947 ........................................... 5 Bruce Wayne Cole 1966 - b: May 19, 1966 ........................................... 5 Steven Michael Cole 1970 - b: April 29, 1970 in Portland, Oregon ............................... *2nd Wife of Floyd Albert Jr. Cole: ................................... +Nancy Fitzgerald .................... *2nd Wife of Floyd Albert Sr. Cole: ........................ +Doris .................... *3rd Wife of Floyd Albert Sr. Cole: ........................ +Marjorie .................... *4th Wife of Floyd Albert Sr. Cole: ........................ +Marie Gertrude Jensen ......... *2nd Husband of Rienette Whitbeck: ............. +Leslie R. Graham ......... *3rd Husband of Rienette Whitbeck: ............. +Leslie Graham ......... *4th Husband of Rienette Whitbeck: ............. +Leonard Smith ......... *5th Husband of Rienette Whitbeck: ............. +James Carter Adam ......... *6th Husband of Rienette Whitbeck: ............. +William Swarthout ......... *7th Husband of Rienette Whitbeck: ............. +Cuthbert V. Kile 1893 - 1955 b: January 1893 in Wisconsin d: September 17, 1955 in Portland, Oregon ......... 2 Ivan Whitbeck 1892 - 1892 b: May 14, 1892 in Ennis Ellis Texas d: May 14, 1892 in Ennis Ellis Texas ......... 2 Ethel H. Whitbeck 1893 - 1927 b: October 26, 1893 in Ennis Ellis Texas d: April 21, 1927 ............. +George Phillip Detzen ......... *2nd Husband of Ethel H. Whitbeck: ............. +Walter Hoxlie Shaw - 1954 d: August 22, 1954 ......... 2 Robert Calvin Whitbeck 1898 - 1936 b: March 11, 1898 in Ennis Ellis Texas d: December 10, 1936

How to Climb Your Family Tree An Introduction to Researching Your Family History Spronsored by the Jefferson County Genealogical Society Tuesdays: Feb 16, Feb 23, Mar 2 3:30 to 5:30 pm (phone if you need an evening session) Jefferson County Library -- Port Hadlock Please register before Feb 5 email: pkohl@olympus.net phone: 385-6599 or 385-0673 mail: JCGS 210 Madison Street Port Townsend WA 98368 Phil Kohl

Wendy, have you changed your E-mail address since you subscribed to PSRoots? The computer at <PSRoots-L@request. rootsweb.com> knows you by your address. So when you request "unsubscribe" it looks for your address and if it is not the same as when you subscribed then it says "Your name was not on the list." If this is the case then the only way I know to unsubscribe is to contact Cindy and she will take care of the problem. Arnold on Fidalgo Island near La Conner, WA At 01:33 AM 1/27/99 -0500, you wrote: >I still am not having success with this mission. Now can you all >tell me what I'm doing wrong? I'm spelling Unsubscribe correctly, >leaving the subject blank, having no extra text, no signature as far >as I can tell AND I've had great luck disconnecting from other >rootsweb lists.

Hello Researchers, My name is Judi Williams. I've been researching my African-American 'Rankin' line for the past 5 years. I've run into many brick walls and have managed to knock some of them down. I joined this list because I am currently researching/searching relatives who lived in Tacoma-Pierce. My Grand-Uncle's name was Perry Eugene Rankin b. May 29, 1910 and died there in Tacoma in October of 1966. His Wife's name was Beula Rankin who was born in New Jersey on Jan. 14, 1913 and died in Tacoma in June of 1975. I was able to locate Perry Rankin's obituary from the Library there in Tacoma however I, so far, have not located Beulah's obituary. Perry and Beulah adopted three children whose names are Michael, Zontia (pronounced Zon-tee-ah) and another son whose name I don't know. I, myself have never met my Grand-Uncle and his family and have never been to the west coast at all. Perry's sister is now age 95 and is the last person from the east coast, as far as I know, who had contact with the entire family there since Beulah died in 1975. My quest now is to locate Perry and Beulah's children who should be in their mid to late 40's. I believe they may have been cared for by someone in Beulah's family however I am only speculating. I do know that Perry owned two houses in Tacoma when he died and that they were sold after his death. If you have any information regarding possible whereabout of Perry and Beulah's children or can point me in a direction, I would truly and sincerely appreciate it and possibly, I may be able to knock down another brick wall and finally meet my cousins. If more information is required, just ask me and I'll be happy to share what I have. Thank you,

On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Doris Crawford wrote: > > I guess I still have a lot to learn on land records. For one thing I > had thought since Cornelius MILLER had taken his family to Michigan from > New York in the early 1830s that he was looking for something better > than he had in New York, meaning that he was broke. If I am correct in > my research, his mother was a widow during his youth and living very > precariously (a relative sold her property back to her for $1 after she > had originally lost it). So, I did not think he had any money and > would have gone to Michigan to get a start. But, he had $100 to buy 80 > acres! So, I guess I didn't know the difference between homesteading > and purchasing the land. Anyway, I appreciate all the help I receive. > > Thanks, Doris Thank you for the flowers, Doris. One of the things I stress is think in terms of Family History, not the genealogy we usually call it. And, history covers a lot of territory. There is a history of settlement on the land in this country as well as the history of the people and the records they left behind. Even a history of the record keepers. That is the part that bothers me, all that history to read. Thank goodness for microfilm, regional archives and e-mail. Check at the regional archives nearest you. They should be able to let you know where the records you want are held and whether they are on microfilm. Perhaps you can even get the microfilm copy sent to a nearby library. I know that a year ago the Kansas City and Atlanta regional web sites had a detailed listing of their holdings. Perhaps by now some of the others have also gotten detailed listings. They all have e-mail contacts. As for your family in Michigan, don't forget that some counties have had histories published about their early settlers. More history to read. John *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====* # John Wm Sloniker <johnwms@serv.net> Seattle, WA # # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # *====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====*

I'm very new at sending messages and replying to messages. Please forgive me if this not correct. I would very much like to thank Joyce Wans and John Sloniker for their very informative answers to my query on Federal Land Records. I also believe in the "hands on" approach too in finding answers in the archives. I wish I could travel to all the courthouses and archival facilities but I have way too many ancestors coming from all parts of the country and a very limited budget. I think I had died and gone to heaven if I got the treasure trove that Joyce got on her visit to the Federal Archives. I guess I still have a lot to learn on land records. For one thing I had thought since Cornelius MILLER had taken his family to Michigan from New York in the early 1830s that he was looking for something better than he had in New York, meaning that he was broke. If I am correct in my research, his mother was a widow during his youth and living very precariously (a relative sold her property back to her for $1 after she had originally lost it). So, I did not think he had any money and would have gone to Michigan to get a start. But, he had $100 to buy 80 acres! So, I guess I didn't know the difference between homesteading and purchasing the land. Anyway, I appreciate all the help I receive. Thanks, Doris

Don't write library, newspaper or genealogical society. I'll go look in garage (when the rain lets up.)

Was wondering if anyone on the list might live in/or subscribe to the newspaper carrying marriage lists from Port Orchard? My granddaughter had to apply over there as her "intended" stationed at Bangor could not get time off to come to Tacoma to apply for the license. I really would like a copy of the page of the paper showing this record and will reimburse costs. The persons involved are Malinda Antoinette Helm (of Tacoma) and Christopher Todd (stationed at Bangor but of Oleans, IN). They applied Thursday January 21st at the Port Orchard courthouse/city hall. E-mail me for my address including costs, etc., if you are willing or able to do this for me. Thank you. Antoinette waughtel@oz.net http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/savannah/252/homepage.htm

To unsubscribe: Send an e-email message to: PSRoots-L-request@rootsweb.com In the body include only one word: Unsubscribe Hope this helps... Michelle P.S. Just a helpful hint, when subscribing to a mailing list I print out the instructions they send each time you sign up and keep it in a file called "Mailing Lists." This way I have the instructions for each list (and hope they work.. lol) This file is kept in the front of my genealogy files. There is no way I could remember all the commands, I am on to many lists.. LOL