I think I just did something REALLY stupid! I sent the following information to the List from eBay's "forward" capability. It probably has all sorts of web garbage attached. Oh well. . . It is Saturday. I don't have to think today! Here's the details. (The auction only lasts until about 10:30 Sunday morning PST.) Is it the Bookstore Lady that is related to Pappan line? ----------------------------------------------------------- Kaw Indian Land Deed, Okla. Terr, 1903, RARE Item #59940743 Collectibles:Native Americana:Pre-1940 Description This is a rare Allotment Deed transferring Kaw Indian land, in Okla, Territory, to a white man named Wm. L. Pappan on Nov. 3, 1903. The land was transferred by Wah-shum-gah, head chief of the Kaw, who signed his name with an "x". The United States Indian agent also signed the deed. This is a bit of history revealing the gradual removal of land from the Indians. The Kaw tribe is a small tribe in north central Okla. There is not much history available on this tribe. No credit cards. Add $2 shipping. Don't miss out on owning this bit of history. ------------------------------------ Sounds interesting. There is a picture of the deed, showing Pappan's signature. You can get to eBay at http://www.ebay.com I discovered it by just typing in DEED and hitting SEARCH. Good luck! HOLTON-L List Owner The Rootbound Researcher * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Kitty (CURTIS) Martin Kent, Washington k9504m@aol.com Researching: CURTIS, GATES, HENSLEY, HOL(E)TON, JAMES; ZIEGLER, SWIFT, POLK, GREGORY, GRACE (etc.) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/8946/index.htm

Marilyn has many resources in Victoria as well as some family members down this way. She might find something yet. -- John ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:28:28 -0800 (PST) From: Marilyn F. Inglis <um831@victoria.tc.ca> To: John Wm Sloniker <johnwms@serv.net> Cc: sydlocke@msn.com Subject: Re: Turn of the Century Ferries Hi John, Sorry to disappoint you on this one, John. I did check the public library online catalogue and the BC Archives, also online, to no avail. If I get a chance, I'll ask around to see if any of my genie pals can answer this one. Otherwise, I'd suggest checking with a Reference Librarian to see if they can come up with anything possibly by interlibrary loan? Incidentally, my father also worked on one of the CPR boats, the Princess Patricia, in the 1930s as a steward. They operated between Victoria/Vancouver and Victoria/Seattle. It was a long trip and often we took the midnight boat and got a berth, whenever we went. All the best. Marilyn On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, John Wm Sloniker wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, sydney f. locke wrote: > > > Hello Everyone, > > I'm a newbee to the list and wish to submit a question to the group. My > > father and grandfather worked on the Triangle Route ( CPR) and also some of > > the shorter routes out of Seattle in the early 1900- 1920s'. Could anyone > > suggest a book or where info on this subject could be located? > > TIA Syd sydlocke@msn.com Edmonds, WA

Hi John, Would you look up the name Dorfner. I would really appreciate it. Thank you, Diane H

Today, while driving the freeway, I passed a van with commercial lettering that read, "Don McCune Library, Woodinville, preserving our Northwest Heritage." Is anyone aware of this library? Are they referring to genealogical type heritage? In my years of researching in the Puget Sound Region, I have never heard them mentioned. If this is a resource that would be of help to any of us, I sure would like us all to know. Anybody? Carolyn

HI Fredi, Names... Fred S. Locke (father) and Leonard P. Locke (grandfather) . Leonard went down with Princess Sophia in 1918. Fred worked out of Edmonds in the early 40's and then to Pioneer Sand & Gravel on the tugs. I am looking for pre- 40's info. Anything appreciated. Syd -----Original Message----- From: Fredi Perry <fperry@oz.net> To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 10:24 PM Subject: Re: Turn of the Century Ferries - Attention Sydney .... >Give me names .... I've got an extensive maritime library of >PS ... even a relative whose family once owned BB ... >fperry@oz.net > >

HI Glen, Its been a long time but I still remember you. I am that "Syd Locke" and my Dad worked the ferries out of Edmonds in the 40's. Graduated in "49" and as I remember that was a coupe of years ahead of you. Small world.. good to hear from an old buddy... Syd -----Original Message----- From: TATANKA834@aol.com <TATANKA834@aol.com> To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 6:43 PM Subject: Re: Turn of the Century Ferries >You wouldn't be related to Syd Locke of Edmonds would you? Glen Grace Edmonds >native 1934....... >

Hi John, Thanks for the site. I am aware of the Canadian Pacific and the triangle route but what I was hoping for was some connection to Black Ball or some of the other in sound ferries. I probably should have worded it more percisely. Thanks Syd -----Original Message----- From: John Wm Sloniker <johnwms@serv.net> To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 9:06 AM Subject: Re: Turn of the Century Ferries >On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, sydney f. locke wrote: > >> Hello Everyone, >> I'm a newbee to the list and wish to submit a question to the group. My >> father and grandfather worked on the Triangle Route ( CPR) and also some of >> the shorter routes out of Seattle in the early 1900- 1920s'. Could anyone >> suggest a book or where info on this subject could be located? >> TIA Syd sydlocke@msn.com Edmonds, WA >> > >Try this addr: Marilyn Inglis <um831@freenet.victoria.bc.ca> > >Those ferries weren't out of Seattle. CPR = Canadian Pacific Railways > >Marilyn is very helpful. > >John > *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* > # John Wm Sloniker <johnwms@serv.net> Seattle, WA # > # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # > # *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* # > # I have Ancestors, Aunts, Cousins, Uncles, Brothers, Sisters. # > # Some are very good, some are very bad, but they're all mine. # > *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* >

Hi Michael, I checked Tacoma City Directories that I have in my home..... 1931, 1935, 1942 and 1945 and there was a John W. Riley listed in 1945 only, wife Pauline O., residing at 98471/2 Pacific Ave. No Mame listed in any of those directories. Sorry! Sincerely, Janet Baccus

I honor your request, Cyndi. Carroll Clark Snohomish * * * 30 * * * ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Sydney: I found a reference to Capt. Louis P. Locke in Gordon Newell's the "H. W. McCurdy Marine History of the Pacific Northwest", but no Fred or Leonard. Louis was Captain of the Princess Sophia, according to Newell, and headed a 75 man crew ... responsible for a total of 343 people on that ill-fated voyage. There's a wonderful account (wonderful is NOT appropriate here) of the disaster in the Newell book. Another reference, this time using the initials ... Capt. L. P. Locke served on the Lorne at one time. HI Fredi, Names... Fred S. Locke (father) and Leonard P. Locke (grandfather) . Leonard went down with Princess Sophia in 1918. Fred worked out of Edmonds in the early 40's and then to Pioneer Sand & Gravel on the tugs. I am looking for pre- 40's info. Anything appreciated. Syd -----Original Message----- From: Fredi Perry <fperry@oz.net> To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 10:24 PM Subject: Re: Turn of the Century Ferries - Attention Sydney .... >Give me names .... I've got an extensive maritime library of >PS ... even a relative whose family once owned BB ... >fperry@oz.net > >

Goodness, I hope to God no-one thought I was saying anything against Carroll!!!! I was hoping that it would be clear that what I was trying to do was stand up for his right to post what he did!!!!! If anyone else received a negative impression, I apologize - particularly to Carroll. But what I was trying to say was if anyone had spent the time to read or even skim through what Carroll posted they would see he explained why his post was felt to be related to genealogy. I respect Carroll, and appreciate his contributions to not only this list but to genealogy as a whole. I also appreciate his commitment to causes he believes in. I salute you, Carroll and all the good that you do!! Maudeen@bainbridge.net Book Reviewer -www.Amazon.com Under the Covers http://www.silcom.com/~manatee/utc.html Genealogy surnames: WEATHERLY, INMAN, NEELING, CAMERON, SWIFT, CHASE, HAUSER, ARNEY, ROARK, BLAIR, CRAWFORD, PURCELL, HAZLETT, HAISCH, WIPF, MILLIGAN, Locations: Guilford Co, NC, Owen Co., IN, Marshall Co., IA, Medina Co., OH, Kossuth Co., IA, Cecil Co., MD, Chester CO., PA Washington Co., PA, Clayton Co., IA, Warren Co., NJ, Luzerne Co., PA -----Original Message----- From: Norma Lewis <norie@localaccess.com> To: Maudeen Wachsmith <maudeen@bainbridge.net> Cc: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 4:52 PM Subject: Re: FAM HIST: TACT NEEDED > >Carroll Clark is a very nice, older gentleman (70's), who has been on this >list a long time. He would do anything to help others on this list. He tends >to ramble sometimes, and he frequently enjoys sharing things with this list >that may not be on-topic, but I'm mighty proud to have him as a friend to this >list, typing such long rambling messages or whatever. Many men his age don't >know how to type and couldn't think of so much to say. He has been able to >give us some very good first-hand history of several areas of WA where he has >lived as a child and adult, and where his family has lived in the historic >past. He has been the only one to keep us completely informed about the >historic Snohomish Cemetery, retyping the Herald articles until he learned to >copy and paste. He has the utmost respect for Cyndi and will certainly do >anything she asks of him, but please, don't pick on Carroll Clark. My Dad has >Alzheimers and could barely write his name at Carroll's age. I know Carroll is >a precious >old man and I would hate for anyone on this list to hurt his feelings. And >please, don't call him Carol, that's a girl's name! >Norma > >Maudeen Wachsmith wrote: >> >> While I wholeheartedly agree that this list needs to stay on topics dealing >> with genealogy, if anyone read all of Carroll's post they would have seen >> that he explained the reason for the post and apologized in advance if >> anyone thought it was off topic, asking them to feel free to delete. I >> might suggest that in the future if there are posts of questionable >> relationship to genealogy topics, this be explained at the beginning of the >> post instead of hidden in the post somewhere where it's unlikely to be >> readily seen. >> >> ~Maudeen >> >> Maudeen@bainbridge.net >> Book Reviewer -www.Amazon.com >> Under the Covers http://www.silcom.com/~manatee/utc.html >> Genealogy surnames: WEATHERLY, INMAN, NEELING, CAMERON, SWIFT, CHASE, >> HAUSER, ARNEY, ROARK, BLAIR, CRAWFORD, PURCELL, HAZLETT, HAISCH, WIPF, >> MILLIGAN, >> Locations: Guilford Co, NC, Owen Co., IN, Marshall Co., IA, Medina Co., OH, >> Kossuth Co., IA, Cecil Co., MD, Chester CO., PA >> Washington Co., PA, Clayton Co., IA, Warren Co., NJ, Luzerne Co., PA >> -----Original Message----- >> From: George Lowe <gblowe@foxinternet.net> >> To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 11:38 PM >> Subject: Re: FAM HIST: TACT NEEDED > >> >> >I second the opinion. What did any of this have to do with genealogy? I >> only >> >scanned it but if there was two ounces of appropriate content it wasn't >> apparent >> >to me. Please limit this site to the subject at hand. >> > >> >George Lowe >> > >> >EFlad@aol.com wrote: >> > >> >> I am sorry, but I am getting more than a little upset that this genealogy >> >> mailing list is being used for political propoganda. I hope that >> something >> >> will be done about people using this list to post political meetings, >> and >> >> then following up with the minutes or opinions of the meetings! If this >> >> person is so into the politics of his/her city, then she/he needs to >> start a >> >> political list and leave this one to the researching of our Pacific >> Northwest >> >> families. >> >> Beth Fladaker >> >

Carroll Clark is a very nice, older gentleman (70's), who has been on this list a long time. He would do anything to help others on this list. He tends to ramble sometimes, and he frequently enjoys sharing things with this list that may not be on-topic, but I'm mighty proud to have him as a friend to this list, typing such long rambling messages or whatever. Many men his age don't know how to type and couldn't think of so much to say. He has been able to give us some very good first-hand history of several areas of WA where he has lived as a child and adult, and where his family has lived in the historic past. He has been the only one to keep us completely informed about the historic Snohomish Cemetery, retyping the Herald articles until he learned to copy and paste. He has the utmost respect for Cyndi and will certainly do anything she asks of him, but please, don't pick on Carroll Clark. My Dad has Alzheimers and could barely write his name at Carroll's age. I know Carroll is a precious old man and I would hate for anyone on this list to hurt his feelings. And please, don't call him Carol, that's a girl's name! Norma Maudeen Wachsmith wrote: > > While I wholeheartedly agree that this list needs to stay on topics dealing > with genealogy, if anyone read all of Carroll's post they would have seen > that he explained the reason for the post and apologized in advance if > anyone thought it was off topic, asking them to feel free to delete. I > might suggest that in the future if there are posts of questionable > relationship to genealogy topics, this be explained at the beginning of the > post instead of hidden in the post somewhere where it's unlikely to be > readily seen. > > ~Maudeen > > Maudeen@bainbridge.net > Book Reviewer -www.Amazon.com > Under the Covers http://www.silcom.com/~manatee/utc.html > Genealogy surnames: WEATHERLY, INMAN, NEELING, CAMERON, SWIFT, CHASE, > HAUSER, ARNEY, ROARK, BLAIR, CRAWFORD, PURCELL, HAZLETT, HAISCH, WIPF, > MILLIGAN, > Locations: Guilford Co, NC, Owen Co., IN, Marshall Co., IA, Medina Co., OH, > Kossuth Co., IA, Cecil Co., MD, Chester CO., PA > Washington Co., PA, Clayton Co., IA, Warren Co., NJ, Luzerne Co., PA > -----Original Message----- > From: George Lowe <gblowe@foxinternet.net> > To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 11:38 PM > Subject: Re: FAM HIST: TACT NEEDED > > > >I second the opinion. What did any of this have to do with genealogy? I > only > >scanned it but if there was two ounces of appropriate content it wasn't > apparent > >to me. Please limit this site to the subject at hand. > > > >George Lowe > > > >EFlad@aol.com wrote: > > > >> I am sorry, but I am getting more than a little upset that this genealogy > >> mailing list is being used for political propoganda. I hope that > something > >> will be done about people using this list to post political meetings, > and > >> then following up with the minutes or opinions of the meetings! If this > >> person is so into the politics of his/her city, then she/he needs to > start a > >> political list and leave this one to the researching of our Pacific > Northwest > >> families. > >> Beth Fladaker > >

While I wholeheartedly agree that this list needs to stay on topics dealing with genealogy, if anyone read all of Carroll's post they would have seen that he explained the reason for the post and apologized in advance if anyone thought it was off topic, asking them to feel free to delete. I might suggest that in the future if there are posts of questionable relationship to genealogy topics, this be explained at the beginning of the post instead of hidden in the post somewhere where it's unlikely to be readily seen. ~Maudeen Maudeen@bainbridge.net Book Reviewer -www.Amazon.com Under the Covers http://www.silcom.com/~manatee/utc.html Genealogy surnames: WEATHERLY, INMAN, NEELING, CAMERON, SWIFT, CHASE, HAUSER, ARNEY, ROARK, BLAIR, CRAWFORD, PURCELL, HAZLETT, HAISCH, WIPF, MILLIGAN, Locations: Guilford Co, NC, Owen Co., IN, Marshall Co., IA, Medina Co., OH, Kossuth Co., IA, Cecil Co., MD, Chester CO., PA Washington Co., PA, Clayton Co., IA, Warren Co., NJ, Luzerne Co., PA -----Original Message----- From: George Lowe <gblowe@foxinternet.net> To: PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com <PSRoots-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 11:38 PM Subject: Re: FAM HIST: TACT NEEDED > >I second the opinion. What did any of this have to do with genealogy? I only >scanned it but if there was two ounces of appropriate content it wasn't apparent >to me. Please limit this site to the subject at hand. > >George Lowe > >EFlad@aol.com wrote: > >> I am sorry, but I am getting more than a little upset that this genealogy >> mailing list is being used for political propoganda. I hope that something >> will be done about people using this list to post political meetings, and >> then following up with the minutes or opinions of the meetings! If this >> person is so into the politics of his/her city, then she/he needs to start a >> political list and leave this one to the researching of our Pacific Northwest >> families. >> Beth Fladaker >

Give me names .... I've got an extensive maritime library of PS ... even a relative whose family once owned BB ... fperry@oz.net

Andrea: I hope the new legislation will protect old cemeteries (like the Sno cem) from the cities and people who would desecration them? If I were to write the new laws the Sno cem (the desecration) would be the first thing I would try to protect.....glen

You wouldn't be related to Syd Locke of Edmonds would you? Glen Grace Edmonds native 1934.......

On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, sydney f. locke wrote: > Hello Everyone, > I'm a newbee to the list and wish to submit a question to the group. My > father and grandfather worked on the Triangle Route ( CPR) and also some of > the shorter routes out of Seattle in the early 1900- 1920s'. Could anyone > suggest a book or where info on this subject could be located? > TIA Syd sydlocke@msn.com Edmonds, WA > Try this addr: Marilyn Inglis <um831@freenet.victoria.bc.ca> Those ferries weren't out of Seattle. CPR = Canadian Pacific Railways Marilyn is very helpful. John *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* # John Wm Sloniker <johnwms@serv.net> Seattle, WA # # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # # *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* # # I have Ancestors, Aunts, Cousins, Uncles, Brothers, Sisters. # # Some are very good, some are very bad, but they're all mine. # *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*

Hello Everyone, I'm a newbee to the list and wish to submit a question to the group. My father and grandfather worked on the Triangle Route ( CPR) and also some of the shorter routes out of Seattle in the early 1900- 1920s'. Could anyone suggest a book or where info on this subject could be located? TIA Syd sydlocke@msn.com Edmonds, WA

Hi, I just read a back copy of the Roots Web newsletter and saw that there is a new mailing list for Yakima County. WAYAKIMA Subscribe by sending a message to WAYAKIMA-L-request@rootsweb.com with the message: subscribe no subject, no other text, no signature If you've heard this already, I'm sorry! In the last two weeks, the traffic on the lists I subscribe to has just exploded. I've gone from 80 messages a day to 250 - and that is with unsubscribing from 3 lists - so I'm about 700 messages behind - I think - I keep stuffing them unread in folders <where they seem to multiply>. Diane dhettrick@earthlink.net

Truthfulness Accountability Communications Trust That was the Focal Point for the group of concerned citizens that met Tues. Jan 26, 1999 at the PUD, Public Utility District meeting room, Maple St., Snohomish 7 p.m. A Town Meeting per the sign directing people to convene. (Please, ref. my PSRoots Digest version, V99 #23, Topic #1 Subject: SNOHOMISH SCHOOL BOARD MTGS. in which I quoted a Letter to the Herald from Mrs. VAL BARSCHAW .).Date 1/25/99. My wife and I attended the mtg. per date. The item that struck my eye was the "artist's stand" that held a huge pad of paper that could be written upon, to one side of the erasebal- type white "pen board" a part of the mtg room. Vertically were the letters T A C T - an eye catching word familiar to us all, that later was added the key words that were to complete the meaning of each individual letter of the word, which I have shown above. (Para.>grin<). Say six people were scurrying around getting things organized as we were a half hr early as that room is not large, I knew. But, soon people came filing in and the room was full 25 + I told you the room was not large! 25+ mature acting, concerned citizens showed up. In time we were to find via various conversations that there were a number of teachers, some currently active, one with 20 years & others, retired teachers (claiming to be tired!) but no elderly ones, except for myself; other representatives - bus driver, school board member, persons with experience among school personnel such as custodian for many years, a printer (Dave Stuart- who is a printer of the Tribune, and many other publications that are printed locally - Dave is a printer, but is completely separated from the Tribune staff and therefore has nothing to do with it - just printing - indicating his independance from the paper itself); many walks of life, experience and concern were represented there. A very mature approach to their demeanor was evident throughout the mtg that was to be one and a half hrs, but turned out to be a good full 2 hrs of excellent input/exchange. Among the early-bird self introductions, was Mrs. Val Barschaw who had written the Letter to the Herald, which also appears in the latest Tribune. As I was getting to know Mrs. Barschaw better during the evening, I found that she has a 17 yr old son who attends Snoh. High now and had been attending Monroe schools previously as he wanted to attend a larger school, and loves basketball as an athletic activity. None of the person who attended that meeting were the activist, rabble-rousing, incensed demeanor that sometimes erupts at such meetings. The talks, discussion, the input of the audiance were all extremely mature - no finger pointing, no derogatory kinds of displays, but a genuine concern for students, kids, children, who attend our schools, and their families, + the personnel that they live with for the number of years that they attend school. Those bus drivers, custodians, and supporting personnel can tell a lot about the quality and focus of a school district, because they see and experience a lot more than many realize. Their input is valuable in knowing what goes on over the years, in addition to that which is the pattern among the professional staff that make up the educators, and the educator/ administrators of a district. It was brought out that the focus that supports the words that TACT stands for is $$$$$$ + Choices. They all work hand in hand - related. Three persons talked on their expertise, or calling attention to their Topics. I had not known of any of them before, so they were "new" and unfamiliar to me prior to this mtg. 1. A Don Finrow talked about the hand-out charts attempting to explain the financial overall outlay that it takes to operate a school district. Talk about statistics, and I am certainly not a statistition (let alone spell it correctly!) - in fact I was left in the proverbial dust by the charts for the various years of interim - and the complexity of what we heard and saw. Take it altogether and add the loopholes, and juggling to take from one program and dovetail it into another - legitimately, I guess - but what a maze of accountability is involved. Talk about being in the dark, most of the room was mindboggled, except those much more savvy on such things than the average person. A great presentation of a very complex subject, but well, done despite it being so. 2. Mary Lou Burns talked about $$$$$ also but more about teachers, administrators, and staffing salaries. Also about sources of funds from various sources, local taxes, levys,county, state, federal sources and influences. Another complexity of information that requires knowledge of the subject in depth. 3. Mrs. Val Barschaw, a parent, a business lady, and a very astute person in her own right, who was well prepared to discuss or explain questions or concerns among the audience gathered there. She claimed not be an attorney, but she savied a lot of law, just the same - having given the time to become better informed. One note that I jotted down was that "Boards may violate their own policies". Among the activities of Boards, and/or administrators of $$$$ may be loopholes, or slots provided in which changes of items may be exchanged, or maneuvered, apparently creating problems if not monitored and handled appropriately. Therein comes the concern that the group who gathered has for the key ideas that TACT stands for. I care NOT to inflame, politicize, incite, or otherwise start debate on PSRoots or any other website, or chat site. My purpose is simply point out that what Snohomish is going through right now; should be known to others, with the hope that others will not have to suffer degredation of their schools because historically they did not monitor and keep track of what the four letters of TACT stand for. Yes, this is Snohomish School District I am talking about here, but this is NOT intended to be "just a local issue". Just like the concern over Snohomish Cemetery may have seemed to be over a Local cemetery, but as we are beginning to see , that this has been, and is becoming, an increasingly growing problem in this country. In Judge French's Courtroom, we lost to the "loopholes" of Law that can be created to twist the case to suit a "view". The Agreement with Tulalip Tribes and the City Snohomish, caused a "turn" in the road. But, will the so called agreement do what they "stated that they would do". Will there be follow through. Or will it waver from law? After Time has passed, it will be swept under the usual carpet. Back to schools: The group that met Tues, will meet in Feb.- perhaps at a different loc. as there may be more people attending than the capacity of the mtg. room is allowed. We were informed that there is a website for this concern: To find it use- Infoseek Snohomish School District, as the website addr. is quite long. However, if we want to attain that longer addr for website we can e-mail findon@premier.net I have not done this yet, but I intend to do so and look it over for what it has to offer. I care not to start anything going on this like we had for Snohomish Cemetery - as that got exhausting. AWARENESS is the key - not for Snohomish Dist Schools but rather AWARENESS of all concerned about ALL school districts, and American Education nationwide. Politics are NOT my intent, forte, nor goal out of this. CONCERN for kids of all ages ARE! There is ENOUGH interference to Education, the learning process, and the Future for our world expertise in whatever field of endeavor - everyone counts - everyone must be allowed his niche in Life - the Teamwork of people working together in HARMONY makes for a better goal. If this has nothing to do with genealogy, or as John Sloniker aptly emphasizes it Family History, then it would probably be a " good idea " to Delete, Scroll, or otherwise, turn away from this reality. Just got the Jan 27, '99 Tribune. On the Opinion page are two Editorials 1. Continued instrospection will benefit district concerns the Management and Operational Review of Snoh. School Dist released this mo. accomplished by the WA Assn of School Administrators - an audit. One sentence that caught my eye as I scanned it was, QUOTE P. 4: "With this baseline established, the district should internalize the eye that watches over district practices." etc. The word "internalize" tho self explanatory basically was a bit "foreign" in nature for me, I checked my Webster's Collegiate & the yr (1884) preceded its def. - an old timer. Checking further in my 2 vol. World Book Encyc. Dictionary which has a little greater depth. the word comes from Psychology. I thought that reminded me of the kind of language we ran into in Educational Psychology 504, or some semblance thereof. It is interesting what intellectual paraguese can come up with when speaking or writing in the "professional mode". Clarity +, huh? Then another Editorial, same p. by Ken Estes, Snohomish titled Snohomish school board should not be rubber stamp. (Italics explains that QUOTE "Estes was Rep. Hans Dunshee's (D-Snohomish) Republican challenger in last Novermber"s election. Article relates to "how national and state administrators were spending the money they were allocated". and "these same poor practices have infiltrated our local district". And, "The School Board cannot be a rubber stamp for the administrtors they hire". Just samples of words being used to bring out the concerns that the TACT group wishes to address. These editorials then spill over to the Letters to the Editor section where Val Barschaw's letter entitled School Board should work to build harmony - the letter that I started out with in my former article 1/25/99 PSR. It was as a result of enough persons who e-mailed me directly and wanted me to continue, that I wrote this follow up. Otherwise, I would not have written it. I thank those who wrote and encouraged me to forge ahead - those darned torpedoes, & full speed ahead - thing. I hope these words do not fall upon deaf ears, nor dead pens, and that citizens do not allow their schools to deteriorate, nor desecrate, because of the lack of T.A.C.T. Carroll in Snohomish * * * 30 * * * ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]