In a message dated 05/01/2001 10:25:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > > I was amazed at the size of the cemetery in Roslyn, WA (a few miles WEST of > Cle Elum), when i visited there several years ago. there are a variety of > ethnic groups represented and hundreds of graves. i haven't checked to see > Dear Sherry: You are talking about my very favorite cemetery! The beauty of the setting -- amongst the hills and valleys and amidst the old trees. The very obvious differences in cultures represented by the diversity of burial methods -- the names alone give one a feeling of being in several foreign countries within a few steps of each other. My great-grandparents and two of their children who died at a young age are buried there. (Surname: LOWER) Family lore tells us that a "hired man" is also buried there, but has no headstone. The little plot, under towering trees, is covered with concrete in the shape of coffins left slightly above ground and is fenced with a beautiful old wrought iron fence. I have only been able to visit there once in this lifetime, but the vision of that cemetery will live within me for the rest of my life. Thanks for mentioning it. Norma

this may be totally unrelated, but... I was amazed at the size of the cemetery in Roslyn, WA (a few miles WEST of Cle Elum), when i visited there several years ago. there are a variety of ethnic groups represented and hundreds of graves. i haven't checked to see if there is anything on the internet about it but would be an excellent place to look for ancestors involved with mining in an unknown WA district. Sherry Kimbrough Port Townsend Researching Collins, Brooks, Munshausen, Telquist, Golofon

Hi, I found the online News Tribune article very interesting, although like most newspaper articles not strong on historical accuracy. The Fort Steilacoom Cemetery, whether the military or settler section, is certainly not the second oldest cemetery in Washington, nor very close to it. US Army records give the date of establishment of the military cemetery as 1859, which is clearly a misprint, probably for 1849, just after the post was established. The post was active from 1848 (the first US Army post garrisoned in the entire Northwest) to 1869, when it was turned over to Washington Territory for the territorial insane asylum. The Army developed a policy of disinterring burials from cemeteries of abandoned posts and reburying them into regional National Cemeteries. In February 1896 the Army moved twenty bodies from Ft. Steilacoom to San Francisco National Cemetery located in the Presidio there. A number of abandoned military post and other federal cemeteries in Washington were also moved there at various times. Among the names of the twenty bodies that were moved is that of Washington's first war hero, Lt. William A. Slaughter, who died in battle in the great Indian War of 1855 in southeastern King County. The city of Slaughter (now Auburn) and county of Slaughter (now Kitsap) were both named in his honor, but later settlers failed to appreciate his sacrifice and disliked the sound of his name. Four officers and sixteen men were moved, I will have the names and details posted online soon at the Washington Cemetery Project. Curiosly, one of the bodies moved was that of a William Wallace, who had served as an infantry private. It is possible that this cemetery was in use prior to the coming of the army in 1848, although I have seen no evidence for it. The army took over an existing Hudson Bay Company post, and a number of settlers were already in the close vicinity. Even if this is true, however, this cemetery is not one of the state's very oldest, and it would probably place it at around third oldest in the Puget Sound basin. William Henson Wallace was not actually Governor of Washington Territory. He was born July 19, 1811 in Ohio and grew up in Indiana, where his family became politically prominent. After admittance to the bar he moved to Iowa in 1837, and was elected to the territorial legislature there in 1838. He was an unsuccessful candidate in Iowa for both territorial delegate and the Senate, but was Colonel of the first state militia before moving to the brand new Territory of Washington in 1853. He settled in Steilacoom, and immediately was elected to the first territorial legislature, serving until 1861. Wallace appears with his wife and son in the 1860 Pierce County census which can be found online in the Washington Census Project. He failed in his first attempt to be elected as territorial delegate, and was named by new president Lincoln to be territorial governor. Congress refused to confirm him however, preferring another man, so he ran again and won the race for territorial delegate, finally obtaining the seat in Congress he had coveted. Wallace served in Congress as Washington Territory Delegate for two years, until the eastern 3/5 of the territory was broken off to form Idaho Territory in 1863. Wallace was named and confirmed as Idaho's first governor, but Wallace hated the hustle and lawlessness of the booming miners in Idaho, and he remained in Lewiston only long enough to secure his election by the new legislature to Congress again as Idaho's first territorial delegate. He greatly preferred the civilization of Washington DC to the rough frontier of the mining camps. He was living in the capital and serving in Congress when Lincoln died. After his term in Congress was over he retired to his property in Steilacoom, where he died February 7, 1879. As prominent as William Wallace was, other members of his family were even more prominent. His older brother Benjamin Franklin Wallace (1804-1887) served in the Indiana and Iowa legislatures, and eldest brother David Wallace (1799-1859) served Indiana as a legislator, Governor, and Congressman. The most famous Wallace was Lewis "Lew" Wallace, David's son, who bacame very famous as a Union General during the Civil War, then even more famous later as the author of the novel "Ben-Hur." Lew Wallace (1827-1905) served in the Indiana legislature, then following the Civil War ran unsuccessfully for both Congress and the Senate. He served three years as Governor of New Mexico Territory, and four years as Ambassador to Turkey. There remains the question of the William Wallace removed by the Army to San Francisco in 1896. While it is probable that this is a second man with the same name, the possibility cannot be discounted that Governor Wallace may have received a military burial, perhaps associated with service in his youth, and that he may have been disinterred with the other military burials when the move was made. Best wishes, Kevin Fraley Director, Washington Cemetery Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/wacem.htm Director, Washington Census Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/wa/wacensus.htm ----- Original Message ----- > An article on the cemetery workshop at the Ft Steilacoom Cemetery on > Saturday, April 28th, appeared in Sunday's Tacoma News Tribune, go to > http://www.tribnet.com/, click on SEARCH in the pink navigation bar. In > the Query bar, enter RESTORATION BUILDS COMMUNITY (the name of the > article), and click on the Execute Query button. A link to the article > should appear in the frame. Many thanks to all who attended. > > --------------

Thank you John. I had the red star near Cle Elum. Have been through there, but not in the town itself. Back in the 50s when I first heard (or at least recall hearing) of Cle Elum it was known to be quite a red light district so sounds like a good old mining area ~~~~~~~~ Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) [email protected] John Wm Sloniker wrote: > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Antoinette Waughtel Sorensen wrote: > > > John, it did all the things you say it does but still could not > > find Baptist location? What is it near as I may have gone too far > > one direction and missed it. > > Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) > > [email protected] > > > > The first map had a star by Cle Elum. The 3rd map had the star on > US-97 about 10 mi east of Cle Elum. > > I've only been on that stretch of hiwy once and recall that in the > early days there were several gold mining villages there. I'll > have to go by again to see what's there now. > > John > *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* > # John Wm Sloniker <[email protected]> Seattle, WA # > *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*

Hello Kevin....How very interesting your post was. I had to take the opportunity to thank you. Roberta Longmire, Yelm

On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Antoinette Waughtel Sorensen wrote: > John, it did all the things you say it does but still could not > find Baptist location? What is it near as I may have gone too far > one direction and missed it. > Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) > [email protected] > The first map had a star by Cle Elum. The 3rd map had the star on US-97 about 10 mi east of Cle Elum. I've only been on that stretch of hiwy once and recall that in the early days there were several gold mining villages there. I'll have to go by again to see what's there now. John *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* # John Wm Sloniker <[email protected]> Seattle, WA # *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*

John, it did all the things you say it does but still could not find Baptist location? What is it near as I may have gone too far one direction and missed it. Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) [email protected] John Wm Sloniker wrote: > On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Andi MacDonald wrote: > > > Hi Roberta, > > > > Do you mean where the map of Baptist, WA, is? The url to the site was > > broken by the server. You'll have to cut and paste the entire thing > > into your web browser to make it work. Here it is again--four lines. > > Only the first line of the url is blue and underlined. The rest is not. > > > > http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=btwn%2Ftwn- > <snip> > > Since I can't do 'cut & paste' I used only: > > http://www.mapquest.com/ > > Then I filled in the blanks with; Baptist WA > > When I got the map I clicked on 'ZOOM IN' twice to get more detail. > > John > *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* > # John Wm Sloniker <[email protected]> Seattle, WA # > *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*

Donna, You are absolutely correct. When I was told that is where it was, I didn't sit and look at everything around the map (there's tons of writing there), I just looked at the map. When I did my own search, it also told me CITY NOT FOUND. Thank you for pointing this out. So, I guess we are still searching for Baptist, Washington. Andi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Walling" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:07 AM Subject: Re: Baptist, WA? > Hi Andi, > I too was interested in where this was, but both times I go to the site I > get a map of the whole state saying: > > 'Map Search Result HELP ? > City not found. Centered on State. > WA, US ' >

On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Andi MacDonald wrote: > Hi Roberta, > > Do you mean where the map of Baptist, WA, is? The url to the site was > broken by the server. You'll have to cut and paste the entire thing > into your web browser to make it work. Here it is again--four lines. > Only the first line of the url is blue and underlined. The rest is not. > > http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=btwn%2Ftwn- <snip> Since I can't do 'cut & paste' I used only: http://www.mapquest.com/ Then I filled in the blanks with; Baptist WA When I got the map I clicked on 'ZOOM IN' twice to get more detail. John *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* # John Wm Sloniker <[email protected]> Seattle, WA # *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*

An article on the cemetery workshop at the Ft Steilacoom Cemetery on Saturday, April 28th, appeared in Sunday's Tacoma News Tribune, go to http://www.tribnet.com/, click on SEARCH in the pink navigation bar. In the Query bar, enter RESTORATION BUILDS COMMUNITY (the name of the article), and click on the Execute Query button. A link to the article should appear in the frame. Many thanks to all who attended. -------------- Andrea D. MacDonald "Andi" [email protected] Washington State Cemetery Association http://www.rootsweb.com/~wapsgs/ Join our maillist for more information on Washington state cemeteries subscribe by sending a blank e-mail to: [email protected] "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world. Indeed it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

Hi Andi, I too was interested in where this was, but both times I go to the site I get a map of the whole state saying: 'Map Search Result HELP ? City not found. Centered on State. WA, US ' ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andi MacDonald" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:02 AM Subject: Re: Baptist, WA? > Hi Roberta, > > Do you mean where the map of Baptist, WA, is? The url to the site was > broken by the server. You'll have to cut and paste the entire thing into > your web browser to make it work. Here it is again--four lines. Only the > first line of the url is blue and underlined. The rest is not. > > http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=btwn%2Ftwn- > map_results&random=565&event=find_search&SNVData= > &uid=&address=&city=baptist&State=wa&Zip=&Fin > d+Map.x=33&Find+Map.y=8 > > Andi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roberta" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 12:23 PM > Subject: Re: Baptist, WA? > > > > Andi...I tried to find with your site...couldn't! Would you mind telling > us > > where it was? Thanks. > > Roberta > > > >

Hi Roberta, Do you mean where the map of Baptist, WA, is? The url to the site was broken by the server. You'll have to cut and paste the entire thing into your web browser to make it work. Here it is again--four lines. Only the first line of the url is blue and underlined. The rest is not. http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=btwn%2Ftwn- map_results&random=565&event=find_search&SNVData= &uid=&address=&city=baptist&State=wa&Zip=&Fin d+Map.x=33&Find+Map.y=8 Andi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roberta" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 12:23 PM Subject: Re: Baptist, WA? > Andi...I tried to find with your site...couldn't! Would you mind telling us > where it was? Thanks. > Roberta >

I WANT TO TALK WITH YOU! Laughlan/Lauchlan/Lachlan McLean and his wife, Julia Ann (Feddin) McLeean were my gg grandparents, and Charles Dean McLean my great grandfather. This is my strongest brick wall, as I have nothing but oral history from before Lauchlan and Julia's marriage. I would be happy to share what I DO have with you. D Becker Vancouver, WA > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: McLean the Mover > Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 10:06:03 -0500 > From: Marion Markham <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Iam tracing my McLean/MacLean lineage. My gr-uncle, Laughlin (spelled in > various ways) MacLean was born on the Isle of Skye, Scotland, around 1830. > His father was Charles MacLean. His mother, the 2nd wife of 3, was > supposedly a MacDonald. They are still in Scotland on the 1851 census but > in 1854 he married Julia Ann Feddin in Ontonagon County, MI. (By this time > he was spelling his name McLean.) Laughlin died on Dec. 31, 1909 and was > buried in Forest Hill Cemetery, Duluth, MN. I don't know how many children > he had. One son, Charles D. McLean, did business in Tacoma as McLean the > Mover, 109 S. 15th Street, in 1932, according to correspondence from the > cemetery. (I believe here were at least three more girls and another son.) > > I would appreciate any information someone might have on this family. > > Marion Markham > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: McLean the Mover > Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 09:27:07 -0700 > From: "Susan Pettit" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > According to the 1939 Tacoma City Directory - The Mover Inc, Lock T Mclean > pres, Dean C McLean (Seattle v-pres-treas 109 S 15th. Also listed are > McLean, Lucille, Robert J w Agnes J, Robert S, Roderic R, Ruth, McLean & Co. > Archie M McLean & McLean's Fast Freight, Cecil Smith mgr 109 S 15th > > There are addresses for the also listeds - let me know if you would like > those. No Charles, I checked the MacLean spelling also. > > Susan Pettit > [email protected] > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.249 / Virus Database: 122 - Release Date: 4/13/01 > > ______________________________

Thank you to everyone who responded to the question of "Where is Baptist, WA?" Mary found it on Mapquest at http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/ia_find?link=btwn%2Ftwn-map_results&random= 565&event=find_search&SNVData=&uid=&address=&city=baptist&State=wa&Zip=&Fin d+Map.x=33&Find+Map.y=8 Andi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andi MacDonald" <[email protected]> To: "WAPugetSound" <[email protected]>; "WASpokane" <[email protected]>; "WAClark" <[email protected]>; "WACemeteries" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 6:50 AM Subject: Baptist, WA? > Hello all, > > Has anyone heard of a place called Baptist, WA? I guess it was supposed to > have existed in about 1888. Not on any maps I've looked in. Also, not > found at Yahoo maps. > > Andi >

Andi...I tried to find with your site...couldn't! Would you mind telling us where it was? Thanks. Roberta

Iam tracing my McLean/MacLean lineage. My gr-uncle, Laughlin (spelled in various ways) MacLean was born on the Isle of Skye, Scotland, around 1830. His father was Charles MacLean. His mother, the 2nd wife of 3, was supposedly a MacDonald. They are still in Scotland on the 1851 census but in 1854 he married Julia Ann Feddin in Ontonagon County, MI. (By this time he was spelling his name McLean.) Laughlin died on Dec. 31, 1909 and was buried in Forest Hill Cemetery, Duluth, MN. I don't know how many children he had. One son, Charles D. McLean, did business in Tacoma as McLean the Mover, 109 S. 15th Street, in 1932, according to correspondence from the cemetery. (I believe here were at least three more girls and another son.) I would appreciate any information someone might have on this family. Marion Markham

In case you had any ancestors or gr-uncles there. -- John --------- Forwarded message --------- Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:27:26 -0400 From: Michelle Gagner <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [MABARNST] Andersonville Prison site http://www.angelfire.com/ga2/Andersonvilleprison/index.html If you have anyone who was confined at Andersonville this is a great site to search... The webmaster will also do lookups himself and will take a picture of your ancestors' grave if buried there, I believe for a small fee... Michelle

According to the 1939 Tacoma City Directory - The Mover Inc, Lock T Mclean pres, Dean C McLean (Seattle v-pres-treas 109 S 15th. Also listed are McLean, Lucille, Robert J w Agnes J, Robert S, Roderic R, Ruth, McLean & Co. Archie M McLean & McLean's Fast Freight, Cecil Smith mgr 109 S 15th There are addresses for the also listeds - let me know if you would like those. No Charles, I checked the MacLean spelling also. Susan Pettit [email protected] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.249 / Virus Database: 122 - Release Date: 4/13/01

There are a lot of places called "Baptist" something in VA, CA,GA, MA and PA. You can check out the USGS site at http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnisprod and enter the name of Baptist as the "Feature" name leaving all other boxes open and you will find many. However there is none named Baptist Washington. There is no place named "Baptist something" in Washington. This web site does include many places that are abandoned today. Bill Doyle -----Original Message----- From: Cyndi Howells [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 6:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Baptist, WA? I tried the Geographic Name Server (Find location, county name and zip code.) http://www.mit.edu:8001/geo There is a Baptist in Louisiana --- which is abbreviated to LA See other results: http://www.mit.edu:8001/geo?location=Baptist Good luck, Cyndi

Andi, For what it is worth, there is no place called Baptist in Washington State Place Names by James W. Phillips, U of W Press, 1971. Arnold on Fidalgo Island Near La Conner, WA At 06:50 AM 4/27/01 -0700, you wrote: >Hello all, > >Has anyone heard of a place called Baptist, WA? I guess it was supposed to >have existed in about 1888. Not on any maps I've looked in. Also, not >found at Yahoo maps. > >Andi