At 08:51 AM 5/5/2001 -0700, you wrote: >Mark > >Since I seem to be the one being zeroed in on over this "thing" ... >I'm unsubbing ... > >I have little time for heavy handed control .. or a lack of a sense >of humor > >Dick S. Dick & all - This is the absolute LAST note on this subject. 1. You state that you have little time for heavy handed control. The rest of us have little time for e-mail with unclear intent and vague communications. 2. The fact that we didn't understand your little "joke" doesn't indicate that we have a lack of a sense of humor. It indicates that the joke wasn't funny. 3. Another of your notes today stated that the typo was obvious. Obviously it wasn't obvious to everyone (at least not to me, but then perhaps I'm not the brightest bulb). The biggest problem I see online, in regard to e-mail, is that people ASSUME far too often. In this case, Dick assumed that we all saw the same thing that he did. He assumed that the typo was obvious. He also assumed that we would see a joke in his note. Despite the addition of a smiley emoticon, the "Huh?" still didn't make sense (if a comedian has to explain the punchline....). As the list owner, I was confused by his note and wanted to help clarify whatever the problem or point might have been. Then, I learned that his note and joke was merely something meant to point out an error made by another person. At that point I stepped in and tried to gently remind Dick (and others, if necessary) that notes sent to the mailing list are distributed to more than 200 people on the list. This means that the entire process is shared with 200 people, whether they like it or not. My feeling on this is that no one should ever assume that 200 other people would like to read *anything* that isn't specific to the topic assigned to the list. Therefore, again, I want to remind everyone that we must stick to the topic for the mailing list (that goes for any and all mailing lists online). And we must respect the rights of others to receive e-mail via this list that pertains to that topic and that topic only. Further, I don't want to see any virtual stomping of feet, accompanied by notes saying "I don't like you! You're mean! I'm unsubbing!" If you don't like the list, just leave. There is no need to stomp out and make everyone else miserable as you do it. I don't let my 3-year-old son get away with it. So, my tolerance level for this sort of thing isn't all that high right now. Now, let's get on with GENEALOGY, Cyndi

Mark I encourage your answer we all must pay attention to the important things in life and take the small with a shrug otherwise we will age quickly. You do a good job. Keep it up. Maxine

You go Mark!! Or as my friend says "you da bomb" Dana ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Howells To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 9:00 AM Subject: Re: Re: May I March to the Beat of a Different Drummer? Dick - It appears that you wish to waste everyone's time by threatening to leave. By my count, this is your second "I'm unsubbing" message. Please don't let us stop you. While you've clearly become disgruntled about this, hopefully, you've also learned not to assume that everyone is noticing exactly what you are in e-mail. Further, perhaps you've learned that intended humor can be easily mis-understood in e-mail. You will find instructions on how to unsubscribe at http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/psroots.htm - Mark At 09:51 AM 5/5/01 -0600, dick wrote: >Mark > >Since I seem to be the one being zeroed in on over this "thing" ... >I'm unsubbing ... > >I have little time for heavy handed control .. or a lack of a sense >of humor > >Dick S. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [email protected]

Seek look-up or suggestions please: for Malcolm & Eliazbeth Leslie) MacInnis. She (b. 1861 Souris West, Prince Edward Island, Canada, moved to USA abt 1885), a widow and resident in Seattle prior to her death in 1929 at which time she had been visiting in Salt Lake. Walter Perrick was "informant" on the certificate. Thanks for any census or directory suggestions Marilyn Jasper Alberta Email: [email protected]

Would some kind person be going to the King County Courthouse in the near future? If so would they make copies of the Probate Record of Rudolph BALZARINI? He died 12 August 1949 in Seattle. I will be more than happy to pay for your time,copies, and postage. Any help with this matter will be greatly appreciated. Ann Vasconi Corvallis, Oregon

Dick - It appears that you wish to waste everyone's time by threatening to leave. By my count, this is your second "I'm unsubbing" message. Please don't let us stop you. While you've clearly become disgruntled about this, hopefully, you've also learned not to assume that everyone is noticing exactly what you are in e-mail. Further, perhaps you've learned that intended humor can be easily mis-understood in e-mail. You will find instructions on how to unsubscribe at http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/psroots.htm - Mark At 09:51 AM 5/5/01 -0600, dick wrote: >Mark > >Since I seem to be the one being zeroed in on over this "thing" ... >I'm unsubbing ... > >I have little time for heavy handed control .. or a lack of a sense >of humor > >Dick S. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [email protected]

Mark Since I seem to be the one being zeroed in on over this "thing" ... I'm unsubbing ... I have little time for heavy handed control .. or a lack of a sense of humor Dick S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Howells" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 08:21 Subject: May I March to the Beat of a Different Drummer? > Hi all - > > I seem to have caused a tempest in a teapot dome scandal by my typo > of using the month of March when I meant May. I apologize for the > inconvenience of the mistake. Some see such errors immediately and > assume that we all do too. I appreciate those who patiently > pointed out the extremely obvious. It wasn't obvious to me. > > It can be very dangerous in e-mail to assume that your audience > sees exactly what you're seeing. It leads to "What are you going > on about?" and ruffled feather dusters. > > Cheers - Mark > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > [email protected] > >

Hi all - I seem to have caused a tempest in a teapot dome scandal by my typo of using the month of March when I meant May. I apologize for the inconvenience of the mistake. Some see such errors immediately and assume that we all do too. I appreciate those who patiently pointed out the extremely obvious. It wasn't obvious to me. It can be very dangerous in e-mail to assume that your audience sees exactly what you're seeing. It leads to "What are you going on about?" and ruffled feather dusters. Cheers - Mark -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [email protected]

This is the "posting" in question .... NOTE the 8-D ... it was SUPPOSED to have been taken as HUMOR, the TYPO was obvious. If the response to it (my posting) was typical of this "list" then I'm unsubbing. HUH?? 8-D Dick S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cyndi Howells" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 01:51 Subject: Re: May Meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County GenealogicalSociety > Anna - > Thank you for pointing out the typo and the possible reason for the "Huh?" > message. > > However....I sure hope that it was more than that, or for some other > reason. Otherwise, I have to point out the obvious to the author -- that > every other subscriber on the list (more than 200 people) received a copy > of "Huh?" Followed by a copy of my "I don't understand" (because I didn't > see the typo), followed by your explanation. Urgh. I'm already grumpy > tonight. I don't want to be grumpier. > > Personally, I feel we should all cut people a bit of slack when it comes to > these sorts of typos and small issues in e-mail. Yes, he's my husband. If > nothing else, he should be cut a LOT of slack just for having to put up > with me each day. > > Cyndi > > At 11:13 PM 5/4/2001 -0700, you wrote: > >I think it was in relation to the first line of the notice about the May > >meeting: it stated "the March meeting .... .... will be held this Tuesday, > >May 8th..." So... the "huh" was about March being in May, or vice versa, I > >suppose.... > > > >Anna throwing in two cents... > > > >Cyndi Howells wrote: > > > > > Dick - > > > I don' t understand what your message means. Can you please supply us with > > > more of a question? What does "HUH??" mean? > > > > > > Cyndi > > > > > > At 06:26 PM 5/4/2001 -0700, you wrote: > > > >HUH?? 8-D > > > > > > > >Dick S. > > > > > > > >Researching surnames: SCHWEISS .. MEIER .. SCHMITT/SCHMIDT .. > > > >STADTHER(R) .. MEHLTRATER > > > >My Genealogy Site: > > > >http://www.harbornet.com/folks/dick/SchweissFamilyHistory.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >**************************************** > > > > > > > >Subject: May Meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all - > > > > > > > > > > The March meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > > > > > will be this Tuesday, May 8, 2001. > > > > > > > > > > > >

Yuppers! Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anna Hanson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 23:13 Subject: Re: May Meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County GenealogicalSociety > I think it was in relation to the first line of the notice about the May > meeting: it stated "the March meeting .... .... will be held this Tuesday, > May 8th..." So... the "huh" was about March being in May, or vice versa, I > suppose.... > > Anna throwing in two cents... > > Cyndi Howells wrote: > > > Dick - > > I don' t understand what your message means. Can you please supply us with > > more of a question? What does "HUH??" mean? > > > > Cyndi > > > > At 06:26 PM 5/4/2001 -0700, you wrote: > > >HUH?? 8-D > > > > > >Dick S. > > > > > >Researching surnames: SCHWEISS .. MEIER .. SCHMITT/SCHMIDT .. > > >STADTHER(R) .. MEHLTRATER > > >My Genealogy Site: > > >http://www.harbornet.com/folks/dick/SchweissFamilyHistory.htm > > > > > > > > > > > >**************************************** > > > > > >Subject: May Meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > > > > > > > > > > Hi all - > > > > > > > > The March meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > > > > will be this Tuesday, May 8, 2001. > > > > > > > > > >

Sure, was in ref to this .... "The ** March ** meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society will be this Tuesday, ** May 8 **, 2001." "March in May" ??? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cyndi Howells" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "dick" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 00:07 Subject: Re: May Meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > Dick - > I don' t understand what your message means. Can you please supply us with > more of a question? What does "HUH??" mean? > > Cyndi > > At 06:26 PM 5/4/2001 -0700, you wrote: > >HUH?? 8-D > > > >Dick S. > > > >Researching surnames: SCHWEISS .. MEIER .. SCHMITT/SCHMIDT .. > >STADTHER(R) .. MEHLTRATER > >My Genealogy Site: > >http://www.harbornet.com/folks/dick/SchweissFamilyHistory.htm > > > > > > > >**************************************** > > > >Subject: May Meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > > > > > > > Hi all - > > > > > > The March meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > > > will be this Tuesday, May 8, 2001. > > > > > > > >

Anna - Thank you for pointing out the typo and the possible reason for the "Huh?" message. However....I sure hope that it was more than that, or for some other reason. Otherwise, I have to point out the obvious to the author -- that every other subscriber on the list (more than 200 people) received a copy of "Huh?" Followed by a copy of my "I don't understand" (because I didn't see the typo), followed by your explanation. Urgh. I'm already grumpy tonight. I don't want to be grumpier. Personally, I feel we should all cut people a bit of slack when it comes to these sorts of typos and small issues in e-mail. Yes, he's my husband. If nothing else, he should be cut a LOT of slack just for having to put up with me each day. Cyndi At 11:13 PM 5/4/2001 -0700, you wrote: >I think it was in relation to the first line of the notice about the May >meeting: it stated "the March meeting .... .... will be held this Tuesday, >May 8th..." So... the "huh" was about March being in May, or vice versa, I >suppose.... > >Anna throwing in two cents... > >Cyndi Howells wrote: > > > Dick - > > I don' t understand what your message means. Can you please supply us with > > more of a question? What does "HUH??" mean? > > > > Cyndi > > > > At 06:26 PM 5/4/2001 -0700, you wrote: > > >HUH?? 8-D > > > > > >Dick S. > > > > > >Researching surnames: SCHWEISS .. MEIER .. SCHMITT/SCHMIDT .. > > >STADTHER(R) .. MEHLTRATER > > >My Genealogy Site: > > >http://www.harbornet.com/folks/dick/SchweissFamilyHistory.htm > > > > > > > > > > > >**************************************** > > > > > >Subject: May Meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > > > > > > > > > > Hi all - > > > > > > > > The March meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > > > > will be this Tuesday, May 8, 2001. > > > > > > > >

Dick - I don' t understand what your message means. Can you please supply us with more of a question? What does "HUH??" mean? Cyndi At 06:26 PM 5/4/2001 -0700, you wrote: >HUH?? 8-D > >Dick S. > >Researching surnames: SCHWEISS .. MEIER .. SCHMITT/SCHMIDT .. >STADTHER(R) .. MEHLTRATER >My Genealogy Site: >http://www.harbornet.com/folks/dick/SchweissFamilyHistory.htm > > > >**************************************** > >Subject: May Meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > > > > Hi all - > > > > The March meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > > will be this Tuesday, May 8, 2001. > > > >

I think it was in relation to the first line of the notice about the May meeting: it stated "the March meeting .... .... will be held this Tuesday, May 8th..." So... the "huh" was about March being in May, or vice versa, I suppose.... Anna throwing in two cents... Cyndi Howells wrote: > Dick - > I don' t understand what your message means. Can you please supply us with > more of a question? What does "HUH??" mean? > > Cyndi > > At 06:26 PM 5/4/2001 -0700, you wrote: > >HUH?? 8-D > > > >Dick S. > > > >Researching surnames: SCHWEISS .. MEIER .. SCHMITT/SCHMIDT .. > >STADTHER(R) .. MEHLTRATER > >My Genealogy Site: > >http://www.harbornet.com/folks/dick/SchweissFamilyHistory.htm > > > > > > > >**************************************** > > > >Subject: May Meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > > > > > > > Hi all - > > > > > > The March meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > > > will be this Tuesday, May 8, 2001. > > > > > >

HUH?? 8-D Dick S. Researching surnames: SCHWEISS .. MEIER .. SCHMITT/SCHMIDT .. STADTHER(R) .. MEHLTRATER My Genealogy Site: http://www.harbornet.com/folks/dick/SchweissFamilyHistory.htm **************************************** Subject: May Meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > Hi all - > > The March meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society > will be this Tuesday, May 8, 2001. > >

Hi all - The March meeting of the Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society will be this Tuesday, May 8, 2001. Kristian Landers will be presenting "American Heart - Korean Seoul (the ties that bind)". Our meetings are held in the Olympic Room at the Tacoma Public Library, 1102 Tacoma Avenue South, Tacoma, Washington. See http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/meetings.htm for a map and driving directions. Meetings begin at 6:45 pm, preceded by a social "cookies & coffee" time which begins at 6:30 pm. Guests are always welcome! Meetings are generally adjourned at 8:30pm. Cheers - Mark -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [email protected]

Attn: Tacoma-Pierce County Genealogical Society Members It is that time of year again. Time to pay your membership dues: -- $18.00 Individual or Society/Library -- $19.00 Joint (one copy of Quarterly per two members at same address) -- $25.00 Outside the U.S. The society fiscal year ends April 30 even though the summer issue is still to be mailed out in June. Dues for the coming year are now payable. Renewals will be accepted at the May meeting and by mail. Your prompt payment will assure timely receipt of your quarterly, The Researcher. Renewal also insures that your name will be in the Society Membership Roster in the September 2001 issue. We have a handy membership form online for you to print and mail in with your payment: http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/form.htm To everyone else who may not yet be a member of TPCGS, we invite you to join: http://www.rootsweb.com/~watpcgs/join.htm

Free Beginning Genealogy Workshops May 30, 2001 and June 6, 2001 -- 6:30pm to 8:30pm Courtesy of the Metropolitan Parks. Presented by Maxine Carpenter from TPCGS. Location: Jason Lee Community School, 6501 North 23rd Street, Tacoma

On Tue, 1 May 2001, Susie Kozelisky wrote: > Hi Andi, > Well I had a few minutes and I thought I would do a little more > searching for Baptist Washington. This is what I found. Baptist is > about 11 miles north of Ellensburg Wa. on highway 97. Evidently there > is a cemetery there. One is listed anyway. I'm waiting to hear from > someone that belongs to the historical society near there. I'll send > what ever I find. I know how frustrating it is not to be able find a > person or a location. So I don't mind helping when I can. > > Susie I've been looking for an excuse to take a drive. Some early communities never had a P.O. so you're not likely to find them listed in current data bases. Size has nothing to do with it. Try Joplin, Virg, or Pepsin, Mo. Joplin has about ten houses, and the P.O. has been gone since 1941 Pepsin lasted till 1948, but had only one general store, one house, and one church. The general store is gone now. John *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* # John Wm Sloniker <[email protected]> Seattle, WA # # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*

In a tech newsletter, I got the following info on that virus: Ed Bott The Wizard of IZ Alarm bells have been going off at the antivirus companies. McAfee discovered a nasty new Internet worm "in the wild" on April 11, 2001 and traced its origin to New Zealand. They officially dubbed it W32/[email protected] Tell me more Symantec's Antivirus Research Center uncovered the new virus on the same day and decided to call it [email protected] Tell me more. F-Secure spotted the worm on its radar a day later and added it to their rogue's gallery as simply BadTrans. Tell me more.. Whatever you call it, this new email virus is a bad boy, with a password-stealing Trojan routine that could potentially cause a surprising amount of damage. Today I'll tell you how bad it is, how to protect yourself and all about Microsoft's big plans to eradicate this type of virus altogether. IT'S BAD, IT'S NATIONWIDE Since its discovery two weeks ago, I've seen a sharp increase each day in the number of BadTrans reports. Here's what you need to know: How do I spot BadTrans? The BadTrans worm works by replying to email messages. When you send email to a machine infected with BadTrans, the virus replies with your original message and an attached file, plus the single line "Take a look to the attachment." The message appears to come from someone you know. The attachment may have any of 16 randomly chosen filenames (Pics.ZIP.scr or YOU_are_FAT!.TXT.pif, for example) with a final extension of .pif or .scr. How do I protect myself? For starters, don't double-click on the attachment. If you receive a message that includes a suspicious attachment, delete it and contact the person who sent it to you (by phone, preferably). Make sure your antivirus software is up-to-date. Tell me more. How do I get rid of it? Current versions of every leading antivirus program easily detect and remove the BadTrans virus. A POSSIBLE CURE? Critics have hammered Microsoft for years, complaining that its software is too vulnerable to viruses. All that changed a few months ago when Microsoft released Service Pack 2 for Office 2000. More changes are in store when Office XP hits the streets on May 31. How it will work: If you've installed the Outlook 2000 Email Security Update or upgraded to Outlook 2002, you're completely protected from BadTrans and other attachment-borne viruses. Unfortunately, this "protection" also blocks some legitimate file attachments. The new Outlook versions scan every incoming message for attachments. The security patch for Outlook 2000 completely hides any file whose extension appears on Microsoft's "Level 1" list of potential viruses. Tell me more. Outlook 2002 is more informative: You see an error message that includes the full name of the file and a note that Outlook blocked access to it. Roy Johnson