I am researching The STALEY and IRWIN sides of my family. Part of both are in Washington. STALEY, Samuel Tetar b May 2, 1857 in Iowa d Oct. 11, 1931 in Tacoma, WA m Sarah Belle Byers b Oct 24, 1863 in Ohio d Dec. 7, 1929 in Tacoma, WA. Both are buried in Mountain View Memorial Cemetery. Could sure use obit and burial information. This is my gt-grandparents IRWIN, Fred J. b May 18, 1890 in Iowa IRWIN, Harry L. b April 19, 1884 in Iowa Married and had families in the Tacoma, Gig Harbor area so I am told. Both died in Washington. They were brothers to my grandmother (Bertha Irwin m Samuel Staley son of Tetar) . Thanks for any help. Gordon Belt

Ref. THE HERALD - Everett, WA. Date:Mon. June 4, 2001 Section: Local Page(s): PP 1B, 2B Author: Eric Stevick, Herald Writer Site: http://www.heraldnet.com/search/ Article:'I remember when...' Olivia Park Elementary (Everett School Distr.) students are turning senior citizens' life stories into effective learning lessons for both the seniors and the kids. COMMENTARY: This article has human interest appeal and suggests how the interrelationship of the distance in time of the generations-gap between seniors and the young can result in great therapy for both. This is a story, well told, of how seniors/youngsters can relate life experiences to one another that becomes great therapy for both age differences. Read to see what I mean. - - - I have been scowering The Herald, and other similar sources, for really good writings that relate to genealogy/history/local interest, and I must say that I have been rather disappointed in what I find. For awhile there were a lot of stories that I could choose from but lately I found practically none. I like to find articles about our Indian (Native Amer.) population that do not tend to be controversial but rather informative; or historical articles; or ones that relate more directly to genealogy that have surnames that relate to our region of WA and WA State History, or our Neighbors that relate to us in some way. Historical societies, and their activities usually are of interest to genealogists. So, I will continue to seek and try to find that which I feel is of interest to others and that they would like to know about via information about the source. - - - Just when I least expect it, all of a sudden I have received at least 3 surprising e-mails from persons related to me but of whom I have had no knowledge - all with most valuable genealogy information that I had been seeking since 1983 when I got "bitten" by the gen-bug. My elusive Smiths of King Co.- Kent area, et al have come to me out of the blue because they saw my info - thanks to a rootsweb site that I was unaware of. Some good samaritan must have passed it on. Then, out of CO, another elusive bit of gen. appears in my e-mail of a maternal side of my Clark ancestry, the elusive Pope Line which I have pursued & finally had given up learning about that Family - all of a sudden I am getting all sorts of valuable info on them. Just when I began to sour on new info, the info comes to me 'out of the blue' and my adrenalin is full bore again. The adage that 'They Want to Be Found' that I expounded on with a lot of Input from others suddenly erupts again and renews my Faith in humanity, thanks to the rootsweb.com system that so many of us enjoy. That has been perhaps the main source of the "ties" and "hits" that have taken place. I tend to think of it a pure luck, but maybe there is something working for us that we don't quite understand. I wish all of you the same "luck" or whatever it is we want to call it. Playing those "clues" certainly does pay off; if not immediately, in Time ! I hope now that this kind of Luck will happen in my Scott Line - my sparse information on that Line needs a miracle to happen to come about. The Atkinsons who married into the Scott Line has produced surprising results over the years, as far as the Atkinson side is concerned. Perhaps Tacoma where my Scotts lived circa 1917 has the key. A 12 day visit to Italy this last month convinced me that we have a lot to be thankful for, and which we take for granted when it comes to what we might think of as common conveniences. Italy reminded me of the hills of the part of WA/OR along the Columbia River in the area outside of Rome. Beautiful country, cities, highway systems, and great driving compared to our I-5 motor-cross stupidity! We were all over Italy & I did NOT see the crazy driving we see in the I-5 and Seattle, et al, areas -Believe It or Not ! But, this ain't genealogy, is it. So, I will squelch ! The "newcomers" still think that the Snohomish Library is haunted by Catherine McMurchy, longtime Librarian, but they publish her sister Anna's picture but label it Catherine. The Oxford Tavern is supposed to be haunted & is claimed to be one of the most haunted places in WA.- even claimed to be so by Seattle Times, KOMO4's Northwest Afternoon, KING5's Evening Magazine and respected spiritualist Derienne Woogerd, according to the pamphlet avaiable at the Oxford Building aka Oxford Saloon. If you get this pamphlet, you can read about the various "ghosts", i.e. "Madame Kathleen", "John", "Simon" "Mary" "Amelia" and the List goes on and on. Funny how I lived in Snohomish most of the time since 1924, and my Folks owned the barber shop right next to the Oxford, until the barber shop burned to the ground, and I never heard of the ghosts of Oxford, nor the Library only 2.5 blocks away. Where do these new-comers come up with all this stuff, and foist it off on the Public as the Truth. If there is a place that should be haunted, it should be Snohomish Cemetery - not the G.A.R., but Snohomish Cemetery,aka Indian Cem., aka Indian/Pioneer Cem located at 2nd & Cypress (NOT at 2nd St and Pine as reporters tend to mis-print it!). Averill Field still has no Plaque in Honor of Earl Averill, National Baseball Hall of Fame at Cooperstown, N.Y., and it may lose its Name, Averill Field if the Newcomers keep on as they are of distorting/altering Snohomish History to THEIR version of it. Truth, doesn't matter where it is not understood or recognized. Truth vs Fiction when it comes to Genealogy, Historical writings. Is is what we WANT to Believe or it it the Truth! Amen, Carroll in Snohomish, The Digressor ! I Wander;I Wonder ! * * * 30 * * * ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Here is another site: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Museum/4826/robertshort.htm I was in error before: Elizabeth Short was Robert's mother, not wife. Anna

I came across this note on a webpage, after receiving a call from a fellow researching this man: "Arguably the first American casualty of the Second World War was Robert Short, of Tacoma, Washington, a former U.S. Army Air Corps pilot, working as a salesman for Boeing in China, who made several demonstration flights against Japanese aircraft in a Boeing Model 218 Fighter, scoring at least one kill, before being shot down by Japanese naval aviator Yoshiro Sakemago in an A1N2 off the carrier Kaga, near Soochow on February 22, 1932." The fellow mentioned that Robert Short's wife was named Elizabeth, and that they had a son. They were transported to China to attend Robert Short's funeral; there is also a memorial to him erected near Shanghai. So the question is, how to find out more information about his heirs. The fellow researching him wants to make sure Short is remembered for his heroism. Anna Hanson Here's another webpage with more of the story: http://www.talesofoldchina.com/tales/t-short.htm

On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Ken Bielman wrote: > I'd like to find the date of a boating accident that occurred in 1997 > or 98 in which three Coastguardsmen were killed or drowned. The > accident happened off the Northwest coast of Washington during a storm > and very heavy seas. I believe the Coast Guard crew were attempting > to assist another boat in distress. Does anyone remember the date? > If so please email me at [email protected] > > Thanks, > Ken Bielman > Corvallis, OR Ken, I seem to recall the story but not the date. Try http://www.seattletimes.com/news/ That will get you their daily news, with a spot at the top of the page to click for their archives back to Jan 1996. Two choices for searching; date or subject. Give it a try. John *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* # John Wm Sloniker <[email protected]> Seattle, WA # # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*

Darilee: I came to the US from Edinburgh in 1960 for a 2-week vacation. I met a handsome American chap, so I have stayed a bit longer than I had intended! I had to apply for resident immigration status, and was told to register every January. It was intended to keep track of the address of immigrants. For the first few years I diligently got the card at my local Post Office, filled in my address and handed it back to the postal clerk. It went to the Immigration and Naturalization Service. Then I got busy having babies, etc. and completely forgot about registering until I read your e-mail!! It must be over 30 years since I last filled in a card. But, as I'm still at the same address as 40 years ago, the INS will know where to reach me if they need me. :) Eileen Herkes > One of my genealogy class is a retired postal worker and yesterday mentioned that around 1965 'ALL ALIENS' in the Marysville area had to fill out an "I am an alien living in this area card' and present it to the post office. > She remembers that there were hundreds of cards, for a small town of 4500, and how amazed she was to see neighbors in their 80's who had lived most their lives in Marysville and NOT be naturalized. > So the questions are: > 1. How long was this Alien Registration in place - in that form? > 2. Who got those stacks of cards? > 3. Where are the cards now? > > Thank you > > Darilee > > >

I'd like to find the date of a boating accident that occurred in 1997 or 98 in which three Coastguardsmen were killed or drowned. The accident happened off the Northwest coast of Washington during a storm and very heavy seas. I believe the Coast Guard crew were attempting to assist another boat in distress. Does anyone remember the date? If so please email me at [email protected] Thanks, Ken Bielman Corvallis, OR

Searching for the obituary for Ernest FENTON. He died in Thurston Co. WA 10-18-96. I have his SSDI and Resources at Rootsweb. Thanks for any help you can give us. Ken and Marge Williams [email protected] com

Good Morning Everyone One of my genealogy class is a retired postal worker and yesterday mentioned that around 1965 'ALL ALIENS' in the Marysville area had to fill out an "I am an alien living in this area card' and present it to the post office. She remembers that there were hundreds of cards, for a small town of 4500, and how amazed she was to see neighbors in their 80's who had lived most their lives in Marysville and NOT be naturalized. So the questions are: 1. How long was this Alien Registration in place - in that form? 2. Who got those stacks of cards? 3. Where are the cards now? Thank you Darilee

Olympia, Thurston County, Washington Territory July 29, 1871, Saturday The Washington Standard MURDER IN PIERCE COUNTY The Tribune gives an account of the murder of a man by the name of Cook, in Pierce county, on Sunday the 16th inst. The body was not found until the Sunday following, and an examination of the remains disclosed a bullet hole through the body and the skull broken. Some weeks previous to the murder, Cook was assaulted and slightly wounded by a man with a knife, on the prairie back of Steilacoom; the assailant being at the time on the watch for Cook. This man is believed to be the principal in the tragedy just discovered, but is thought to have had an accomplice. We have heard no motive assigned for the act, which at present seems to have been prompted by revenge. Parties are in pursuit of the suspected persons. It is extremely doubtful if they are captured, as sufficient time has elapsed since the murder to enable them to defy pursuit. Olympia, Thurston County, Washington Territory August 5, 1871, Saturday The Washington Standard BOUND OVER – We learn that two men have been arrested and bound over in Pierce county, charged with the murder of Cook, a statement of which we gave in our last issue. Their names are James BREWER and Philip BIRD. An investigation was held on Monday and Tuesday of this week, which elicited strong circumstantial proof of their guilt. Gloria Lester [email protected] >>^. .^<< ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I'm trying to pinpoint the marriage date of an Aunt, Violet HAGOES. Her obit says she married Carroll B HUTSON in Kelso in 1933, but the month and day are not given. Can someone on this list help me? Thanks, Ken Bielman Corvallis, OR [email protected]

The Redmond Stake is sponsoring a Family History Expo on Saturday, June 2, 2001, at the Redmond Stake Building located at 10115 172nd Ave. NE, Redmond beginning at 9:30 am to 3:00 pm. Everyone is welcome! Admission is Free! Here are some of the classes that will be included · How to Start in Genealogy · Family Search · Family History Library Catalog · Legacy Software · US Federal Census Records at National Archives · Using Internet in Genealogical Research · Using a Scanner & Digital Camera to Enhance Writing Family History · Irish Research · Italian Research · German Research · Scotland Research · LDS Research · Swedish Research A Computer Lab will be open all during this day for training in Family Search, GEDCOM files, Ordinance Index & Temple Ready. Attached is the current outline of classes. Tracks Track 1 MP Track 2 RS Track 3 PRIMARY Track 4 NURSREY Track 5 HC Track 6 ROOM 4-5 Track 7 ROOM 6-7 Track 8 STAGE/FHC 9:30 ­ 10:20 Legacy 3.0 Software ­ Beginners Dave Berdan Ken Maginnis Using the internet John Overbaugh Where do I start! Leslie Edmunds Using the National Archives Part One Curtis Roselle Norwegian & (Scandinavian) Research Jan Sjavik Wales Research European Research COMPUTER LAB 10:30­11:20 Legacy 3.0 Software ­ Intermediate Dave Berdan Ken Maginnis Communicating with e-mail John Overbaugh Family Search Bob Wismer Using the National Archives Part Two Curtis Roselle Taking a genealogy trip Bob Mullen Irish Research Mary Magnuson Italian Research Mary Sangalang Steve Fantana COMPUTER LAB 11:30-12:20 Legacy 3.0 Software ­ Beginners Dave Berdan Ken Maginnis Using the internet John Overbaugh Where do I start! Leslie Edmunds Using the National Archives Part One Curtis Roselle Canadian Research English Research Eastern European COMPUTER LAB Lunch 12-30 ­ 1:00 Lunch Lunch Lunch Lunch Lunch Lunch -Panel Discussions Lunch Lunch 1:10 ­ 2:00 Legacy 3.0 Software ­ Intermediate Dave Berdan Ken Maginnis Source & documentation Melanie Glazener? Family Search Bob Wismer Using the National Archives Part Two Curtis Roselle Preserving Documents Caran Riggs? Panel Discussions German Research Sandra Howard COMPUTER LAB 2:10 ­ 3:00 Using a digital camera & scanner to enhance your family history Dave Berdan Ken Maginnis Starting A Family Organization Kevin Kelly Family History Library Catalog Leslie Edmunds Latin American Research Temple Ready Bob Mullen Scotland Research Jennifer Gribble Italian Research Mary Sangalang Steve Fantana COMPUTER LAB

The Seattle Genealogical Society has recently relocated to a new home. The Society is hosting an open house to introduce this new location to patrons - all are welcome. Grand Opening ~ Open House Seattle Genealogical Society 6200 Sand Point Way NE Seattle, WA 98115 [across the street from the Pacific/Alaska Region of the National Archives and Records Administration!] PROGRAM 1 June 2001, 1:00 pm - 5:00 pm 2 June 2001, 10:00 am - 4:00 pm * 12:30 pm ~~ Ribbon Cutting Ceremony* * 1:00 pm ~~ Annual Membership Meeting* *following the Membership meeting ~~ Lynn Moen gives a presentation on publishing your family history* Punch, coffee and cake will be served. Hope to see you there! Seattle Genealogical Society Relocation Committee

AMERICAN TWIGS SEEK IRISH ROOTS ~~~ A WORKSHOP ~~~ Saturday June 9th 10AM - 3 PM * Records 19th century Ireland What exist? Where can they be found? * Irish Immigration into North America during the 1800s * Finding Families in American Cities * Research Plan Development FOLLOW-UP [2 hours]: Date & Time to be determined * Follow-up on research plans ~ Successes & Challenges ~ Adjustments Advance registration is required. Seating limited. Cost: $15.00 / person Contact: Pat Wood 253-564-1869 [email protected] Workshop Location: Tacoma Public Library ============================== Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

Ron, I can't thank you enough for the time and effort on my behalf. You have really turned up some great information and leads. Do you know if there are marriage indexes for Seattle for the 60' and 70's? I have found only one Mildred on the SSDI who about fits. She was an ALLEN but I contacted the funeral home and I don't think it was her. She died at Oak Harbor, WA. Thanks again for your help. If I can return the favor down here in Austin, Texas, just let me know. John Chapman

----- Original Message ----- From: "John S. Chapman" <[email protected]> > I am trying to locate... birth name was probably Caren Gail Brewer. Her mother, Mildred Catherine Lundquist Brewer married my father's cousin, Dewey Lyle Chapman in 1943. Although they were married in Roswell, New > Mexico, the certificate gives her residence as Everett, WA. > > Dewey was a military pilot who was later shot down and killed in North Korea in 1951. I was told that Dewey adopted Caren. At the time of his death Caren and her mother were living in Everett, WA with an H. Dahlgren. I was also told that Mildred > later married a man named Leonard Allen who worked for the Boeing Aircraft Co. Based on a photo taken about 1947 I would guess that Caren was born around 1940. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > I check 47-8-9 for the names. Did find a Herman C. Dahlgren living in Everett at 3416 Colby Ave, married to Barbara K.. In 1955 Mildred C. Chapman, clerk, scott paper Co, residing at RD2, Box 451. 56, same 57, same but listed as receptionist. 59, same, listed as telephone operator. 60. receptionist again 62. same, but also listed was Caren G. as insert feeder, Scott Paper Co. 63. Both listed, Caren was now a packer. 64, just Mildred. 66, Mildred was listed as Mildred Allen, residing in Seattle. Same basically til 74 when Mildred was listed as residing at 1646 N. 203 Place Seattle. 75, 76, 77, she was listed as again Everett at Box 1673. 1977 was the last appearance. So she either was no longer working at Scott Paper, or had died. I checked the Seattle and North Seattle listings for 1646 N 203 Pl. In 75, it was listed as being occupied by a Robert B. Sparling; however, he was listed in previous years in other addresses and married to Molly. I thought maybe I could find Mildred living with Caren, but no such luck. There was a Leonard N, Boeing Mechanic listed in 1974 but he was married to an Ethel. Caren was working at Scott in 63, so she probably married after that. A death index might identify when Mildred died, which may lead to an obituary, which may lead to daughter. Ron Bestrom

----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Kan" <[email protected]> Subject: MacInnis - Malcom & Elizabeth of Seattle, prior to 1929?? Look up please. > Any data or suggestions for 1920s e.g. seeking this family, said (on her > death certificate) to have been resident in Seattle, would be much > appreciated.. > > Are there any indexed directories that might be of use?? Polk City Directories are a great source of info. They not only have the person, but also the spouse, where employed, the address and in many cases all of the employed family members at that address. The Polks indicated no listings for MacInnis, but the family was listed as McInnis: 1910-14 no records 1915. Elizabeth (widow of Malcom) residing at 5512 15th Ave NE, with Eugene and Leslie. 1917 had Elizabeth (Widow of Malcom) residing at 2-1323 Terry. Also residing there was Leslie. 1918, Leslie M. was residing at 1017 4th. 1919, Leslie, a stenographer was at 3 highland drive. 1922 Elizabeth was at 4852 35th Ave SW Leslie, now married to Jennie was at the same address. 1925, 26, no listings. 1927. Elizabeth was still at 4852 35th Ave SW 1928, she was at 5720 15th Ave NE. 1929...she was no longer listed. 1932. Leslie and Jennie were still residing at 4852 35th. He was listed as a clerk with the Seattle Police Department.

A series of six classes on genealogy will be taught from 10 am to noon Wednesdays, June 13 through July 25, at the Tri-Area Community Center in Chimacum. The classes are designed for both beginners and those with some experience who would like additional help. Topics: Getting Started, Census Records, Libraries and Courthouses, Immigration and Migration, Overcoming Dead Ends, and Using Computers. Instructor is Carolyn Hutchinson Brown; Carol has been active as a researcher, teacher and lecturer for 22 years. The fee for six sessions is $40 for Jefferson County Genealogy Society members, $50 for non-members, and $10 for individual sessions. Pre-registration for the series is recommended by June 8; send a check to JCGS, 540 Water Street, Port Townsend WA 98368. You may attend individual sessions without pre-registration. For more information -- as a web page: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~wajcgs/classcarol.html> or as a Adobe .pdf file: <http://www/rootsweb.com/~wajcgs/classcarol.pdf> Phil Kohl

Hi Antoinette, At this point I'm not ruling out any DOUGHERTY's in Iowa after 1847. Every time I find one, they look like they could connect. My cousin Megan has been doing the Iowa Dougherty's and I'm supposed to be doing the Washington Doughtery's although we don't mind crossing over each other. I'll send your message to her. Ours came straight from County Down to Dubuque County in a big, related group (over several years, I think). I am best connected with McCARTAN researchers and we have some good projects going on. My husband is descended from a Dougherty-McCartan marriage. It turns out that a large group of DOUGHERTY's came with the McCartans from County Down. The Dougherty's settled in Dubuque County which is on the eastern border of Iowa. Megan's aunt says they are related to the Dougherty's of Dougherty, Iowa, which is in Cerro Gordo County in north central Iowa. A branch of the McCartan's went to Pocahontas County in northwestern Iowa. They spread out so much in such a short period of time that I certainly would not rule out Fremont County in southwestern Iowa. Our Dougherty's came to Washington state around 1882 - two brothers and a sister. If there were other family members in Washington I have yet to identify them. I did just join an interesting list - Irish in Iowa. [email protected] I had no idea that so many Irish ended up in Iowa - thought it was just my kin. Or maybe they all *are* my kin! Diane Antoinette Waughtel Sorensen wrote: > > Diane, I read this message with interest <grin>. Although I had > mentioned one time to Cyndi that I had a DOUGHERTY ancestor I did not > pursue it then. Being in Iowa is what brought it to mind. My maternal > grandfather James William WILCOX was born to the union of George > Benjamin WILCOX & Rebecca Jane "Jennie" DOUGHERTY and in Sidney > Township, Fremont County, Iowa 16 December 1883. By the summer of 1884 > they were in Washington Territory. Now George Benjamin & Jennie were > married in Illinois and their first child Minnie was born there, they > were in Iowa for the birth of my grandfather. Their remaining children > were born in Washington Territory and Washington state. > > Do we have any connection? > Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) > [email protected] > > "Diane K. Hettrick" wrote: > > > Cyndi, > > > > I'd like to revisit your Dougherty information. I just > > realized that a branch of our McCartan family ended up > > in the same town as your Dougherty family. I don't > > know of any of our Dougherty's who went there, but we > > are looking at a joint migration of Dougherty, Savage, > > McCartan from County Down to Iowa. I also just made > > contact with a researcher who is from the Dougherty, > > Iowa families. Our Dougherty's are supposedly > > connected to them, too. > > > > Diane Hettrick > > [email protected]

For those that didn't get to see the Seattle Times of Mon 21 May, 2001 you may want to check their web site: http://www.seattletimes.com/news Near the top of the page is Archives to click on. Search by subject or date to find the story about her writings of the NW. Her books have been re-issued and there will be a gathering this coming Saturday. John *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* # John Wm Sloniker <[email protected]> Seattle, WA # *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*