Book "Just Rambling Around Blue Mountain Country" V. Orchard, 1981. Stories, photographs, people, places in and around the Blue Mountains of Eastern Washington and Oregon - mainly Old Timeers, has family history. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1643466635

I'm also part Snohomish. The Snohomish fall under the Tulalip Agency for Reservation Indians. Off Reservation Indians where counted about 1916-1919. The Snohomish are listed under there own tribe. This list is called by several names, one being the Robbins List of Unenrolled Indians 1916-1919. Roger ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: September 28, 2001 9:03 PM Subject: Re: More Indian School Records > > > What records do they have at Sandpoint for genealogical research on Indian > heritage? I'm interested in the Snohomish Tribe. > > Stephen G. Schweyen >

What records do they have at Sandpoint for genealogical research on Indian heritage? I'm interested in the Snohomish Tribe. Stephen G. Schweyen

Donna, this list is mostly the Five Civilized Tribes of Oklahoma but other tribes are also listed, including some NW Tribes. I do see some school listings but I don't know where they are. Sorry Stephen, I don't see the Snohomish Tribe on this list. Check with the Seattle NARA offices to see what they might have in their hard-copy files. This is a list of microfilms. -- jws -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Fri. 11 Oct, 1996 Cherokee and Other Tribal Information The Seattle branch of the Federal Archives has several holdings for researching Native Americans. For many years the holdings were for the NW tribes, but now have been expanded to include many other Tribal Nations, though not all inclusive here. Here is a partial listing of all the microfilm they hold for NA research. The first three groups listed are complete, while those other groups may have only one or two items. The items that have a number starting 7RA... are copies of what can be found in the Fort Worth, Texas NA archives. To check out the holdings for the archive branches try this URL http://www.nara.gov/nara/regional/nsrmenu.html GENERAL items Description M668 Ratified Indian Treaties, 1722-1869 A50 1870 Roll of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians of Michigan I34 Yakima & Tulalip Agencies Census, 1880 P2193 Skokomish & Nisqually (Puyallup Agency) Census, 1880 M595 Indian Census Rolls, 1885-1940 A9/10 Special Case No. 188 - The Ghost Dance 1890-1898 7RA252 Tonkawa, Otoe, Missouri, Siletz Allotment Records, ca 1893 7RA145 U.S. Court in Indian Territory, Index to Civil Cases, 1901-1910 A48 1908 Census Roll of the Ottawas & Chippewas of Michigan A49 1909 Census Roll of the Ottawas & Chippewas of Michigan M1343 Enrollment Applications of Western Washington Indians, 1911-1919 P2286 Alaskan Village Census Rolls, 1912-1972 7RA261 E. Shawnee, W. Miami, Modoc, Ottawa, Seneca, Wyandotte, Quapaw, Peoria, Allotment Books FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES (Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminole) 7RA74 Delawares Who Elected to Remove to Indian Country, Register of Shawnees 1871; North Carolina Cherokees Who Removed to Cherokee Nation, 1881 7RA70 Index, 1896 Citizenship Application, Dawes Commission * M1650 Application Files of 5 Tribes, for 1896 Dawes Commission I13 Index to Five Civilized Tribes, 1896-1907 M1186 Enrollment Cards for Five Civilized Tribes, 1898-1914 M1301 Applications for Enrollment of the Commission to the Five Civilized Tribes, 1898-1914 7RA181 Records Relating to Choctaw-Chickasaw Townsites-Letters Sent by Chickasaw Commission, 1902-1904 7RA53 Intruder Dockets and Indexes-Dawes, ca 1906-1915 T529 Final Rolls of Five Civilized Tribes, 1907 (Dawes Rolls) 7RA92 Report on Enrollment/Dawes Commission, 1909 7RA32 Index to Orders for Removal of Restrictions, Five Civilized Tribes. 7RA98 U.S. Court Appeals of Rullings/Dawes Commission CHEROKEE items Description M208 Records of the Cherokee Indian Agency in Tennessee, 1801-35 A21 Register of Cherokees Who Wished to Remain in the East, 1817-1819 (Treaty of 1817) A22 Plots and Surveys of Cherokee Reservations, 1817-1820 A23 Cherokee Emigrants, 1817-1838 and Muster Rolls A18 Records of the First Board of Cherokee Commissioners; Property Valuation, 1835-1839 (Tennessee & Georgia) T496 Cherokee Indians Index & Census, 1835 ("Henderson Roll") A17 Decisions on Cherokee Spoilation Claims, 1838 A19 Records of the 4th Board of Cherokee Commissioner Minutes, 1846-1847 7RA6 Eastern Cherokee Rolls, 1848-52 ("Mullay & Siler Rolls") 7RA29 1867 Census Roll of Eastern Cherokees 7RA4 Cherokee Census, 1867 ("Thompkins Rolls") 7RA51 Alphabetical Index to Cherokee Freedmen, 1867-1897 7RA73 Cherokee Delaware Census, 1867 and an 1893 Copy of a List of Delawares incorporated into the Cherokee Nation in 1867 7RA7 Cherokee Census, 1880 7RA33 Cherokee PpPayroll, 1880 ("Lipe Roll") 7RA25 Cherokee Citizenship Docket Books, 1880-1889 7RA90/91 Register of Cherokee Students, 1881-1882 7RA29 Cherokee Census, 1883 7RA56 Cherokee Census, 1883 (1887 copy missing Sequoyah District) 7RA57 Cherokee Payment Roll, 1883 7RA58 Cherokee Census, 1886 7RA72 Persons Rejected/Cherokee Citizenship, 1887-1889 7RA59 Cherokee Payment Roll, 1890 7RA60 1897 Copy of Cherokee Payment Roll of 1890 7RA8 Cherokee Census, 1890 (no index) 7RA54 Cherokee Census, 1893 (includes Delawares, Shawnees, and Freedmen 7RA55 Cherokee Census of Intruders, 1893 7RA38 Payroll by Right of Cherokee Blood, Going Snake District, 1894 ("Starr Roll") T985 Old Settler Cherokee Census/Payment Index, 1895-96 7RA34 Cherokee Old Settlers Payment Roll, 1896 7RA19 Cherokee Census, 1896 A32 Cherokee Freedmen Payment Roll, 1896 7RA71 Index to Cherokee Roll of1896, not including Freedmen 7RA80 Payroll of Destitute Cherokees, 1902, and Payroll of Intermarried Whites, 1910 M1104 Eastern Cherokee Applications (US Court of Claims) 1906-09 7RA24 Index to Cherokee Rejected Cards, ca 1907 7RA28 Index to Final Rolls of Citizens and Freedmen of the Cherokee Tribes of Indian Territory, ca 1907 M685 Eastern Cherokee Enrollment Records, 1908-10 ("Guion-Miller Roll") [includes Drennen Roll of Emmigrant Cherokee and Index, and an Index to the Siler Roll, m/f roll 12] 7RA82 Cherokee Index and Equalization Roll, 1910 A20 Copybook of Special Agent Charles L. Davis, North Carolina Cherokee Indian Records, 1910-1911 7RA81 Cherokee Index and Payroll, 1912 A42 Muster Roll of Cherokee Indians to Emmigrate west of the Mississippi. A35 Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians of North Carolina, ("Baker Roll") This completes the listing for Cherokee as of Feb, 1996. Phillip Lothyan, the Director for past 20 yr, reports that more is expected in the near future. He also reports major System changes for 1997. Phillip Lothyan, Director Federal Archives, Seattle Br. (ph. 206 526-6507) 6125 Sand Point Way NE Seattle, WA 98115 Seattle Puplic Library item: John: Yes, the Seattle Public library owns the first 8 volumes of CHEROKEE BY BLOOD. The call no is R929.373/J764C Darlene Hamilton Remember, this is what is at the Pacific NW Regional Archives, and some of these, as well as other records, can be found at other branches, or through the LDS FHC branches. Check for them there. Other Seattle Archive branch holdings include: CHICKASAW A36 1847 Chickasaw Census Roll and 1837-39 Muster Rolls 7RA21 Records of the Five Civilized Tribes, Chickasaw Rolls ca 1898-1910 CHOCTAW A39 1831 Choctaw/Armstrong Roll A40 Index to Choctaw Emigrants, 1838-55; Register of Choctaw Indians, Eastern Choctaw Census 1856 7RA2 Index to Census Roll of the Choctaw Nation, 1896 7RA116 Records Relating to the Identification of the Mississippi Choctaws, 1899-1904 7RA147 Index of Choctaw "R" Cards, ca 1907 7RA90/91 Choctaw Payment Roll and Index, 1911 7RA93 1916 Choctaw $300 Payment Roll and Index. A37/38 Alphabetical List of Choctaw Reserves, n.d. CREEK T275 Creek Indians Census, 1832 7RA5 Dunn Rolls of 1867 and 1869, Citizens and Freedmen of the Creek Nation 7RA46 1890 Creek Payroll 7RA69 1896 Creek Roll (Colbert Roll) A43/44 Loyal Creek Payroll, 1903 A41 Creek Orphans and List of Payments to be Made. SEMINOLE 7RA20 Records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes, Seminole Rolls and Allotment Schedules, ca 1907 INDIAN SCHOOLS P2008 Chemawa Register of Pupils Admitted, 1880-1927 P2263 Chemawa Student Index/Class Rolls, 1885-1921 7RA87 Records of Chilocco Indian School, 1904-26 COEUR D'ALENE 1 item COLVILLE 1 item DELAWARE A45 Registry of Delaware Indians, Patent Lists, Appraisement and Schedule of Payments, 1867-1874 7RA26 Delaware Indians Payroll, 1896 and 1904 FLATHEAD M1350 Enrollment Records of Flathead Indians, 1903-1908 LEMHI (Shoshone/Bannock) I46 Register of Indian Families, Lemhi Agency, July 1, 1901; Register of Indian Families, 1903 or 1904, Records of Births and Deaths, 1910-1923 MENOMINEE A46 Menominee Annuity and Enrollment Payment Rolls, 1849-1873 MIAMI (Ohio) 7RA78 Miami Agency Census Rolls, 1871-1959 7RA150 Miami Indian Agency, Selected Lists, 1880-1936 QUAPAW 7RA36 Quapaw Competency Commission Reports, 1910-11 QUINAULT 1 item SIOUX P2015 Sioux (Ft. Peck Agency) Census, 1881 UTE A7/8 Selected Documents from Special Case Number 112 - Ute Commission, ca 1880-99 WARM SPRINGS P2007 Warm Springs Agency Census, 1880-1882 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The above information comes from a hand-out ($.50 Donation), kept at the Information Desk manned by Volunteers, many from the local SEATTLE GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY PO Box 75388 Seattle, WA 98125-0388 If you are closer to Chicago than Fort Worth or Seattle, check with them, to see what they might have. Let them know that you are interested in doing your research closer to home. There is always web browsing to find out what the archives have by using the URL http://www.nara.gov/nara/menus/genealog.html Happy to help anytime, John You wanna discuss it? Try: INDIAN-HERITAGE discussion List *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* # John Wm Sloniker <[email protected]> Seattle, WA # # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # # *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* # # I have Ancestors, Aunts, Cousins, Uncles, Brothers, Sisters. # # Some are very good, some are very bad, but they're all mine. # *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*

On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Cheryl Webber wrote: > The last time I went to Sandpoint the only thing I had to do to > see the original records was to fill out a form. They brought the > records out right then, I didn't have to come back on another day. > > Cheryl Webber Thanks Cheryl, Since the originals I want are for Massachusetts or Missouri, I had not tried to find them at Sandpoint, only the microfilm copies. Things have sure changed there since the early 1970's John You wanna discuss it? Try: INDIAN-HERITAGE discussion List *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* # John Wm Sloniker <[email protected]> Seattle, WA # # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*

. *********** The public is invited to an Open House to recognize October as Family History Month. It will be held Saturday, September 29, 1-3 pm, at the Auburn City Library, 1102 Auburn Way South. Featured will be Mayor Charles Booth presenting a Mayoral Proclamation declaring October Family History Month in the City of Auburn. Genealogical items will also be displayed. The event is co-hosted by the South King County Genealogical Society and Friends of the Auburn Library. For more information please visit the South King County Genealogical Site website at http://www.rootsweb.com/~waskcgs or contact the Auburn King County Library at (253) 931-3018 ************** Thank you! Tracy Arnold SKCGS Publicity Chairperson [email protected]

The last time I went to Sandpoint the only thing I had to do to see the original records was to fill out a form. They brought the records out right then, I didn't have to come back on another day. Cheryl Webber >As for the federal archives in Seattle, most people want the microfilm >that anyone can view. However, there are originals in the back-room, >and you can view them, IF you submit to a security check. I recall >when a security check was required back in the 1970's just to get to >the microfilm. No big problem. Just fill out the forms and come back >in two weeks after they do their thing.

Press Release for Immediate Distribution: ====================================================================== NATIONAL GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY PARTNERS WITH THE ST. LOUIS COUNTY LIBRARY ====================================================================== The National Genealogical Society's circulating collection of more than 20,000 volumes will have a new home by the end of this year. At its September board meeting in Davenport, Iowa, the NGS Board of Directors ratified its decision to create a strategic partnership with the St. Louis County Library. The NGS circulating collection, part of which is currently housed in off-site storage, will be moved to the St. Louis County Library where it will be available to researchers by January 2002. In February of 2002, the NGS circulating book collection will become available in its entirety for interlibrary loan to both NGS and non-NGS members throughout the country. Both NGS and the St. Louis County Library are committed to significantly growing the circulating collection so that members have a dramatically larger number of books available to them via interlibrary loan. The St. Louis County Library staff will handle loan services previously processed by the NGS librarian and volunteers. The county library's experienced interlibrary loan staff and their expert special collections librarians make this partnership particularly strong. Loans will be executed in a timelier manner and will usually be less expensive for the researcher. Special collections librarians will assist in answering reference questions generated by the loan service. This partnership will enable the NGS librarian and the volunteers to focus on providing programs, projects, and access to other important materials such as the NGS manuscript collection, which will continue to be housed at the NGS headquarters site in Arlington, Virginia. An exciting new project is the development of plans for a genealogical reference help-desk. This help-desk will give members access to reference and referral services to help them find and interpret historical and genealogical information. Tailored to the individual needs of each researcher, this will be a tremendous benefit to NGS members. NGS will continue to accept donations for the circulating collection, and with its partner, make these additional materials available to the entire genealogical community. While the St. Louis County Library will maintain its core genealogy collection as a non-circulating reference collection, the NGS circulating collection will provide the whole genealogical community with access to a significant and growing circulating collection of genealogical reference materials. The National Genealogical Society's core mission is education. It is committed to forming strategic partnerships that will increase benefits for its members as well as the whole genealogical community. This strategic partnership increases important services without duplication. The NGS Board of Directors is dedicated to exploring all possible avenues of increasing member benefits while working to fulfill the society's core mission as a service organization that leads and educates the national genealogical community. About NGS: More information about the National Genealogical Society and its many programs and services can be found at the society's web site: http://www.NGSGenealogy.org The society's mission and objectives can be found at the following link: http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/amission.htm. Information about the St. Louis County Library Special Collections can be found at: http://www.slcl.lib.mo.us/slcl/sc/sc-genpg.htm Contact: Curt B. Witcher President, National Genealogical Society 219-421-1226 [email protected]

Originally published in the Ancestry Daily News, September 20, 2001: http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/4596.asp ===================================================================== NEW PARTNERSHIP FOR THE NGS LIBRARY ===================================================================== The National Genealogical Society (NGS) Board of Directors is committed to providing the highest level of information, services, and products possible to NGS members. To this end we have become immersed in a strategic directions initiative. We are looking to provide more services to our members with the same number of staff and the same level of resources. And as I am sure you can imagine, our financial resources continue to be rather modest, particularly in this time of economic downturn. Despite rumors, stories, and musings to the contrary, the National Genealogical Society Library is not closing nor are its collections being randomly dispersed to other libraries. It is important for me to state again for the record: the National Genealogical Society Library is not closing. Rather it is being reconstituted in a manner more conducive to providing better services to the society's membership. Historically, the book loan collection has been under-utilized by the society's membership. Yet no one, absolutely no one, is interested in terminating the book loan service. The NGS staff and board of directors appreciate that while little used by the majority of members, the book loan service is highly valued by a number of members. The challenge before us was to find a way to continue making the book loan service available while freeing the NGS librarian and her staff to provide more valuable reference services for our members-services that would make NGS an increasingly invaluable part of more genealogists' lives. After much study and deliberation, the NGS board voted to create the nation's largest family and local history book loan collection through a partnership with the St. Louis County Library (SLCL). This partnership creates some of the most exciting growth opportunities for a book loan collection the genealogical community has ever seen. As specified by the agreement, all of the books SLCL receives from NGS must be made available for loan, making the entire NGS book loan collection as close as your nearest public, college, or university library. The two organizations have committed to meet at least yearly to review the status of the arrangement and modify as needed to make the books as accessible as possible. I believe it is important to also note that having the NGS Book Loan Collection at the St. Louis County Library carries the following additional benefits. 1. Book loan requests will be filled five days a week, rather than just one day per week as we had been doing at Glebe House. The service will be much more responsive. 2. Neither the St. Louis County Library nor the NGS Library will have to close to perform the interlibrary loans. In the past the NGS Library had to close to perform loan functions. 3. The St. Louis County Library has a much larger staff to handle loan requests. 4. The St. Louis County Library is committed to assisting NGS with reference questions that result from use of the loan collection. 5. Housing the loan collection in St. Louis means that the book loan collection will be in one place and in one consistent order. Currently, the NGS book loan collection is in two different facilities on the Glebe House grounds as well as two different remote storage facilities. 6. The St. Louis County Library will market the book loan collection in ways NGS was never able. 7. The St. Louis County Library will be offering programs at national conferences on the riches and use of the loan collection. 8. The St. Louis County Library will be enhancing web access to the loan collection, and creating pathfinders and use-aids for the collection as well as highlighting unique items. 9. The staff of the St. Louis County Library is most competent, professional, and very excited about making this arrangement truly benefit both organizations. The administrative, special collections, and interlibrary loan staffs in particular are truly extraordinary. I know this from months of personal experiences and interactions with them. Both SLCL and NGS are committed to growing the book loan collection in very dramatic ways. While we are not yet at the announcement stage, we are contacting numerous genealogical libraries, societies, and other organizations that heretofore were not interested in giving their duplicate materials to NGS because of our space constraints and the manner in which we had to run our loan program. We are asking these entities to reconsider enhancing our national loan collection by designating this new partner collection as the repository of their duplicates. In addition to finding a much better way to conduct the society's book loan program, I believe the NGS board's commitment to enhancing its library and information services can be evidenced in a number of significant ways. 1. The NGS librarian remains an important, full-time position on the society's staffing table, on par with other professional staff employed by the society. 2. The society's valuable manuscript collections (including the marvelous Richardson Dougall European Manuscript Collection), its archive of Bible records, the AMA files, and the MAC chart files are all being maintained at the Glebe House Library. Indeed, efforts will continue to be explored to acquire other such unique collections of materials. 3. The society is maintaining its contracts with CAPCON (the OCLC library cooperative in the DC-VA-MD area) and The Library Corporation (TLC). Access to OCLC will allow NGS staff to assist members in finding important family and local history books worldwide. Maintaining our online catalog through TLC will allow staff to eventually catalog our many manuscript collections, making them far more accessible to our members. The TLC system can also be used for providing new member services in the information arena. 4. The look-up services of NGSearch (e.g. Germans to America, Italians to America, etc.) will be maintained and expanded. 5. The society will continue to accept donations for both its reference collection being maintained at Glebe House and the book loan collection. 6. A new service to retrieve information and records from Washington, DC area repositories is being explored as a new service to members. 7. A new, members-only Help Desk will be established as a part of library services to provide personalized guidance to researchers just getting started, getting started again, and those who have reached an impasse of some kind. Toll-free help lines, designated e-mail addresses, and partnerships with other genealogical libraries to investigate a 24-7 reference assistance model are all being explored. Indeed, I believe you will be pleasantly surprised and pleased when all of our plans for the expansion of services in our newly reconstituted library are unveiled. Your NGS Board of Directors truly believes this new partnership with the St. Louis County Library will make for a stronger and more responsive society as well as a stronger and more vital library at Glebe House. Curt B. Witcher President, National Genealogical Society http://www.ngsgenealogy.org Curt B. Witcher Manager, Historical Genealogy Department Allen County Public Library P. O. Box 2270, 900 Webster Street Fort Wayne, IN 46801-2270 [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------ Reprinted with permission of the "Ancestry Daily News" (http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews) Copyright © 1998-2001, MyFamily.com Inc. and its subsidiaries. http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/news/articles/4596.asp

On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, Andi MacDonald wrote: > Dear Gloria and all, > > I've been unable to respond to your emails until just now. I wanted > to correct a misconception about Native American records. They are > FEDERAL, not state, nor local. Try the Library of Congress or the > Federal Archives. The Bureau of Indian Affairs has overseen these > records and if I'm not mistaken, they are placed in the Federal > Archives of the geographic areas the tribes reside in. > > Andi There are two items to consider. Yes Andi, tribal records are federal records, but I don't know what agency handles the schools. Don't dis- count the local records for that reason. Gloria, the local tribal people aren't unfriendly, just not open. If you persist, they will help. It will make a difference if you say "my grandfather". I can't say that. As for the federal archives in Seattle, most people want the microfilm that anyone can view. However, there are originals in the back-room, and you can view them, IF you submit to a security check. I recall when a security check was required back in the 1970's just to get to the microfilm. No big problem. Just fill out the forms and come back in two weeks after they do their thing. So, next time you ask the NARA about Indian records, be sure you tell them that you don't want to leave out anything they might have in the back room. That might be where the school records you want are kept. John You wanna discuss it? Try: INDIAN-HERITAGE discussion List *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* # John Wm Sloniker <[email protected]> Seattle, WA # # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*

Dear Gloria and all, I've been unable to respond to your emails until just now. I wanted to correct a misconception about Native American records. They are FEDERAL, not state, nor local. Try the Library of Congress or the Federal Archives. The Bureau of Indian Affairs has overseen these records and if I'm not mistaken, they are placed in the Federal Archives of the geographic areas the tribes reside in. Andi ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 2:48 PM Subject: More Indian School Records > Thanks to Cheryl, Virginia, Maxine and John for their responses to my > query about Indian School records. > > The listing for the Wash. State Archives, Puget Sound Regional Branch, in > Bellevue which has the Pierce County holdings does not show any Indian > records. > > I have looked at the microfilms at the NARA Archives at Sandpoint which > includes Puyallup census records, but all they have for Indian schools > was Chemawa in Oregon, which was somewhat helpful because my Grandfather > and his 3 brothers also went there. Their listing of actual documents > only gives Puyallup Indian Agency, 1885 - 1920. I do have a research > card so will ask about these records the next time I go there and see if > they contain anything about Indian schools. > > I appreciate the information about Cascadia in Tacoma, but would hesitate > to just show up on their doorstep if they are unfriendly to researchers. > > Thanks again to everyone. > > Gloria Lester > [email protected] > >>^. .^<< > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > >

Thanks to Cheryl, Virginia, Maxine and John for their responses to my query about Indian School records. The listing for the Wash. State Archives, Puget Sound Regional Branch, in Bellevue which has the Pierce County holdings does not show any Indian records. I have looked at the microfilms at the NARA Archives at Sandpoint which includes Puyallup census records, but all they have for Indian schools was Chemawa in Oregon, which was somewhat helpful because my Grandfather and his 3 brothers also went there. Their listing of actual documents only gives Puyallup Indian Agency, 1885 - 1920. I do have a research card so will ask about these records the next time I go there and see if they contain anything about Indian schools. I appreciate the information about Cascadia in Tacoma, but would hesitate to just show up on their doorstep if they are unfriendly to researchers. Thanks again to everyone. Gloria Lester [email protected] >>^. .^<< ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

http://hatch.senate.gov/pressapp/record.cfm?id=178829 Press Release of Senator Hatch SENATE PASSES HATCH BILL TO COMMEMORATE OCTOBER 2001 AS FAMILY HISTORY MONTH Contact: Christopher Rosché - 202.224.9851 Wednesday, September 26, 2001 WASHINGTON - By unanimous consent, the Senate today approved legislation introduced by Sen. Orrin G. Hatch to designate October as "Family History Month." "Millions of Americans are researching the history of their families," said the Utah Republican. "Experts say that in the United States, genealogy is now the second most popular hobby next to gardening. It is believed that more that 80 million Americans are currently actively searching for more information about their ancestors. "It is only natural that we want to find out more about our ancestors," Hatch continued. "What better way to bring families closer together than by discovering more about the story of their own family? Like it or not, who we are today is in large part, a product of our ancestors. Hatch's bill (S.R. 160), which was co-sponsored by Robert Bennett (R-Utah), commemorates October as Family History Month and encourages President Bush to issue a proclamation calling upon the people of the United States to observe the month of October with appropriate ceremonies and activities. "With the advent of the Internet, there has been an explosion of interest in family history," Hatch continued. "Last month alone, more than 14 million Americans used the Internet to research their family history. Genealogy Internet sites are some of the most popular sites on the World Wide Web. My church, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, has family history information on nearly 500 million individuals on its family history web site (www.familysearch.com)." "Essentially, we are all immigrants to this country. Our ancestors came from different parts of the globe," Hatch said. "By searching for our roots, we come closer together as a human family. S.R. 160 had 84 co-sponsors and was approved by unanimous consent. "Researching ancestry is a very important component of identity. It can lead to long-sought-after family reunions or allow for life saving medical treatments that only genetic links will allow," Hatch said. "For all of these reasons, I encourage people across this nation to find out more about where they came from." Helpful Family History Sites on the Internet Family Search.Com www.familysearch.org/ Sponsored by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, this site not only contains a wealth of information about genealogy, it also allows you to conduct free searches for your ancestors: Cyndi List.Com www.cyndislist.com/ On one of the most popular Internet sites on genealogy, Cyndi List is a free, categorized & cross-referenced index to genealogical resources on the World Wide Web. Essentially, Cyndi List is a set of links organized by categories that point you to the best genealogical research sites: National Archives www.nara.gov/research/ A treasure trove site filled with information on federal records databases including U.S. Census information. The site includes tips for those just starting their research. Other helpful sites: Recent Article on Using the Internet for Family History Research http://www.earthlink.net/blink/ Ancestry.Com www.ancestry.com/ Geneaology.Com www.genealogy.com Kindred Konnections.Com www.kindredkonnections.com/ Family History.Com www.familyhistory.com/ Ancestor Search http://www.searchforancestors.com/

On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Cheryl Webber wrote: > Apparently there is an archive at the Cascadia in Tacoma that may > have the school records. (The location of the old Puyallup Indian > School.) It is being used as the tribe's office space. We've tried > to call to find out what they have but they were'nt particularly > friendly. It appears that they may be more helpful if the researcher > was there in person. Some places are better with people in person > than on the phone. > > Puyallup consolidated agency census records are on microfilm at the > Northwest Room in the main Tacoma Library. > > Cheryl Webber Gloria & Cheryl, I had the same problem when I went to the BIA office in Tahlequah, OK to check on Cherokee records. Civil, but not open. If you can't find what you want on microfilm in Tacoma, or hard-copy at any of the local Rez offices, I suggest you check at the NARA archives on Sandpoint Way in Seattle to see what they have for 1887. I know they have some local tribe records on microfilm but I never had occasion to check their hard-copy files in the back room. For that you have to pass a security check. You might even check the Seattle NARA web page for an e-mail addr for a contact to see what they have. I think the people I knew there ten years ago have retired now. John You wanna discuss it? Try: INDIAN-HERITAGE discussion List *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===* # John Wm Sloniker <[email protected]> Seattle, WA # # (206) 789-6663 7323 - 19th Ave NW 98117-5612 # *===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*===*

Gloria: Contact the National Archives Branch at Sand Point, they have some Indian records. Maxine Alexander

Apparently there is an archive at the Cascadia in Tacoma that may have the school records. (The location of the old Puyallup Indian School.) It is being used as the tribe's office space. We've tried to call to find out what they have but they were'nt particularly friendly. It appears that they may be more helpful if the researcher was there in person. Some places are better with people in person than on the phone. Puyallup consolidated agency census records are on microfilm at the Northwest Room in the main Tacoma Library. Cheryl Webber -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Indian School Records Hello List: Does anyone know where there might be student records for a couple of Indian schools. Specifically: Cushman Indian School - 1897-1899 Puyallup Indian School - 1887 - 1891 Thanks. Gloria Lester [email protected] >>^. .^<< ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Have you tried the Washington State Archives or one of its branches? Phone #360 586 1492 for research. Virginia Curulla > From: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 00:07:50 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Indian School Records > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 02:36:39 -0600 > > Hello List: > > Does anyone know where there might be student records for a couple of > Indian schools. Specifically: > > Cushman Indian School - 1897-1899 > > Puyallup Indian School - 1887 - 1891 > > Thanks. > > Gloria Lester > [email protected] >>> ^. .^<< > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. >

Gloria, My great grandfather was the Indian census taker for western washington around those time periods. He also was the Indian school superintendant and a teacher at Puyallup and several other reservations. I know that there is a section of books at the Northwest Room at the main Tacoma library that contains many of his published school reports. My mom has done all the research on that side of our family and has more info on what records are available. I won't be able to ask her about it until this evening, but will write back when I know more. Thanks! Cheryl Webber ============================================== www.webbergroup.com Microsoft NT LAN Administrator Certified A+ Instructor/Technician Chief Operational Officer, Professional Data Management Chief Operational Officer, The Webber Group Founder & President, Echoes of the Past Archive Founder & Co-Owner, New Life Enterprises Founder & Co-Owner, Elipsys Technologies "Glad to spend the rest of my life Climbing Trees!!!" "It's hard to understand how a cemetery raised its burial cost and blamed it on the cost of living." -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 12:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Indian School Records Hello List: Does anyone know where there might be student records for a couple of Indian schools. Specifically: Cushman Indian School - 1897-1899 Puyallup Indian School - 1887 - 1891 Thanks. Gloria Lester [email protected] >>^. .^<< ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hello List: Does anyone know where there might be student records for a couple of Indian schools. Specifically: Cushman Indian School - 1897-1899 Puyallup Indian School - 1887 - 1891 Thanks. Gloria Lester [email protected] >>^. .^<< ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

SNOHOMISH - Many of you have been reading the Obits. posted on WASNOHOM-L with the Obits from The Snohomish Tribune, etc. It makes for interesting reading about old Snohomish, old Snohomish County, and environs. You get the picture of a rough & tumble existence around here in those early days from the excerpts that describe how the individual succombed, and who the relatives were. I have found them most interesting reading as I see many surnames that were, and are well known to me. The Elmer Lenfest obit. listing the related surnames, and the various members of that family was especially interesting to me as the Lenfests were on my Herald paper route; but they were also close friends of my family and they attended the same lodges, and the same church that was familiar to me over 76 yrs. living in Snohomish. One surname that keeps appearing in the various obits is that of BAKEMAN, C. B. Bakeman, Bakeman Funeral Parlor, but best known to me, and my Family as Charley Bakeman, or for me, when I was small, Mr.Bakeman. I remember Charley Bakeman best when he had his furniture store between 1st St & 2nd St on the W side of Union Av. in Snohomish, just around the corner from my home on 2nd St. across from Starr Mall Antiques (formerly the National Guard Armory prior to WWII ). When I was about 5 yrs old, and we visited Charley Bakeman at his furniture store, he presented me with a tin, windup toy bear, that when wound up would shuffle along the floor on its two hind legs, about 5" tall, inevitably made in Germany. Today, they are collector's items in antique stores. That gesture of kindness impressed upon my mind Charley Bakeman's image along with the many times I had seen him at various places in Snohomish. Charley was a versatile businessman - a truly admired man for his activities for the good of our town. He had been a man who'd trained to be a carriagemaker -serving a 3 yr apprenticeship in Green Bay,WI.-b. in 1861 of parents who were natives of Germany. By 1883, Charley had moved to Snohomish, WA where he taught school; was employed in a general merchandise store; and by 1885 opened a furniture store, and later add an undertaking department. He applied his apprenticeship ability and built the first buggy (carriage) in Snohomish. His business suffered a fire destroying it in 1893, causing him to have to start anew on a smaller scale which was sold to another townsman. Charley, went into the mining business at Monte Cristo, where he was rather successful with the O & B mine for a couple of years, when the Flood of 1897 that damaged the railroad and the mine to the extent that he returned to Snohomish and resumed the undertaking business left in the hands of his brother. His brother went to Alaska. Charley and his wife of 1890 had 4 children. Frances Bakeman was his 3rd child. She would come to be my 7th grade English teacher at the County Courthouse Bldg which became Snohomish High School, 1937. What a wonderful teacher she was just as her Mother and Charley had been previously in Snohomish. Charley had been coroner a number of times, city treasurer, and a member of the city council for 12 yrs. He was a member of Odd Fellow, Knights of Pythias (where I saw him most often when attending it with my Folks); Ancient Order of United Workmen; Order of Red Men; and of the Fraternal Order of Eagles (another place where I frequently saw Charley). His success is reflected in the fact that he owned 200 acres of land where he bred fine horses in Snohomish. His Legacy descends via his daughter Frances who became Frances Hodges - her husband ,Paul, being a Professor at the University of Washington in the English Dept. ; their son John Hodges, whom I knew as a kid, became in time a Professor of Marine Biology at the University of WA. - he and a team of marine biologists from both the West and East Coasts of the US proved how fish navigate, using magnetic orientation and reference with the Earth's magnetic field to travel great distances and using their magnetic referencing to navigate in doing so. His brother, another grandson of Charley, is Paul Hodges Jr., who became an Astronomer. I have no details on him at this time. Whenever I see the surname Bakeman, C.B.Bakeman, or Bakeman Funeral Home, I cherish the man I was lucky to have known, Charley Bakeman, the man who presented that mechanical, wind-up bear made in Germany. I remember that as if it were yesterday, not 72 yrs ago ! What a Legacy among the obits I see on my monitor of the early news. Thank you for Posting those Obits as I am seeing many recognizable Surnames among early Snohomish History. What a wonderful person Charley Bakeman was - his Legacy lives via his genealogy. Carroll in Snohomish * * * 30 * * *