Hi Doreen, I was late into the conversation so forgive me if I ask questions that you've already answered. *Friedrichstraße sounds like a street to me, is it perhaps part of their address instead of town?* * * *I'm in the U.S. and I've not worked with records in England, perhaps you can enlighten me some day. I have research to do there at some point. Did England require any kind of documentation to leave the country at that time? Some type of passport, something that might indicate where the family was moving to? * * * *You said he worked for a tram company, what is your definition of a tram? I *immediately* think of a tracked system, like a trolley car or street car, within a city. If that is the case then it narrows your search considerably as it would indicate a city, not just any village.* * * *Do you know what British company owned the tram company? If so, do they have any records?* * * Do you have a copy of the birth certificate you mentioned? I would think the place of birth would be mentioned and that should help narrow your search. As I mentioned in my early email I've dealt almost exclusively with German records prior to 1860 so my knowledge of available records in the latter part of the 19th Century is limited. I know Germany had a census every 5 years after 1875, but I'm not sure what details were included or how accessible they are. I'm afraid I've sent you more questions instead of answers. Joel http://www.rafert.org/home/ On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Doreen Jackson <dorich40@yahoo.com> wrote: > Dear Joel, > Many thanks for your informative reply. > > Yes, another of the problems with Germany is the language. I did know > know of the existence > of the "online" letters, perhaps I could use this method. > > My family returned from England c1874 and to the best of my knowledge > settled in Hannover. > In 1885 they were living in, (from memory) Friedrichstrasse? I have no > idea which part of Hannover > that might be located. I understand that records are not all in a central > place, for example, here in > England we know most things are in The National Archives at Kew or in a > County Record Office for > a certain place name, not so in Germany, at least that is my understanding. > > People have tried to help in the past but the only thing found was a > confirmation that Oscar Dietrich, > Head of the family, was a Superintendent with a Hannover Tram Company. > Where that confirmation > was found I have no idea, but apparently no records of the company in > question were available. I > further understand that the company in question was British owned and that > Oscar Dietrich may have > obtained that post before vacating the UK. > > The family's presence in Germany in 1885 was shown via a Birth Certificate > from a relative of the > family who was visiting at the time of the birth of her son. > > As I mentioned people have responded to requests in the past but with the > limited resources at their > disposal could not turn up anything concrete and I am nearly always > referred to the Staadarchives in > Hannover !!. > > Therefore, if there is another way I could try to find any possible > records on the family I would be more > than pleased. > > Doreen >

Just to add to the mix of Hannover/Hanover. It was in essence, a port of debarkation. Apparently, when an individual/family sought to leave, and there was no room on a ship, they had to live in Hannover/Hanover and wait for space. Not unlike today's flying 'standby.' I had one known relative that had to do this. His home of birth was Kletellen, Kries Niederung, Ost Preußen (East Prussia). Because he had to wait, his address on the passenger manifest said Hanover as the residence. Drove me stark crazy in the beginning until other factors became apparent! Also to add, Leipzig was a city in Sachsen (Saxony), not very close geographically to Hannover/Hanover. Unless I have been wrongly lead, Saxony was never part of Prussia and usually sided with those that did not see Prussia as the best in government and rule! Rollo Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Hannover Records Hi Doreen, I was late into the conversation so forgive me if I ask questions that you've already answered. *Friedrichstraße sounds like a street to me, is it perhaps part of their address instead of town?* * * *I'm in the U.S. and I've not worked with records in England, perhaps you can enlighten me some day. I have research to do there at some point. Did England require any kind of documentation to leave the country at that time? Some type of passport, something that might indicate where the family was moving to? * * * *You said he worked for a tram company, what is your definition of a tram? I *immediately* think of a tracked system, like a trolley car or street car, within a city. If that is the case then it narrows your search considerably as it would indicate a city, not just any village.* * * *Do you know what British company owned the tram company? If so, do they have any records?* * * Do you have a copy of the birth certificate you mentioned? I would think the place of birth would be mentioned and that should help narrow your search. As I mentioned in my early email I've dealt almost exclusively with German records prior to 1860 so my knowledge of available records in the latter part of the 19th Century is limited. I know Germany had a census every 5 years after 1875, but I'm not sure what details were included or how accessible they are. I'm afraid I've sent you more questions instead of answers. Joel http://www.rafert.org/home/

Hello all, Yes Friedrichstraße = Fredricks Street (English) Pax Vobiscum, ...mark (Mark Rabideau) ManyRoads Family Genealogist (Rabideau-Henss Family); *Professional Genealogist * *Visit us at: http://many-roads.com <http://many-roads.com/> * *Snail mail at: *711 Nob Hill Trail - Franktown,CO USA - 80116-8717 *phone:*+1.303.660.9400 *fax:*+1.303.660.9217 *member:*Association of Professional Genealogists & National Genealogical Society _____________________________________________________________________ *"It's always useful to know where a friend-and-relation is, whether you want him or whether you don't."* Rabbit, Pooh's Little Instruction Book (Winnie the Pooh) On 04/15/2012 07:04 AM, Joel Russell wrote: > Hi Doreen, > > I was late into the conversation so forgive me if I ask questions that > you've already answered. > > *Friedrichstraße sounds like a street to me, is it perhaps part of their > address instead of town?* > * > * > *I'm in the U.S. and I've not worked with records in England, perhaps you > can enlighten me some day. I have research to do there at some point. Did > England require any kind of documentation to leave the country at that > time? Some type of passport, something that might indicate where the > family was moving to? * > * > * > *You said he worked for a tram company, what is your definition of a tram? > I *immediately* think of a tracked system, like a trolley car or street > car, within a city. If that is the case then it narrows your search > considerably as it would indicate a city, not just any village.* > * > * > *Do you know what British company owned the tram company? If so, do they > have any records?* > * > * > Do you have a copy of the birth certificate you mentioned? I would think > the place of birth would be mentioned and that should help narrow your > search. > > As I mentioned in my early email I've dealt almost exclusively with German > records prior to 1860 so my knowledge of available records in the latter > part of the 19th Century is limited. I know Germany had a census every 5 > years after 1875, but I'm not sure what details were included or how > accessible they are. > > I'm afraid I've sent you more questions instead of answers. > > Joel > http://www.rafert.org/home/ > > > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 1:23 AM, Doreen Jackson<dorich40@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Dear Joel, >> Many thanks for your informative reply. >> >> Yes, another of the problems with Germany is the language. I did know >> know of the existence >> of the "online" letters, perhaps I could use this method. >> >> My family returned from England c1874 and to the best of my knowledge >> settled in Hannover. >> In 1885 they were living in, (from memory) Friedrichstrasse? I have no >> idea which part of Hannover >> that might be located. I understand that records are not all in a central >> place, for example, here in >> England we know most things are in The National Archives at Kew or in a >> County Record Office for >> a certain place name, not so in Germany, at least that is my understanding. >> >> People have tried to help in the past but the only thing found was a >> confirmation that Oscar Dietrich, >> Head of the family, was a Superintendent with a Hannover Tram Company. >> Where that confirmation >> was found I have no idea, but apparently no records of the company in >> question were available. I >> further understand that the company in question was British owned and that >> Oscar Dietrich may have >> obtained that post before vacating the UK. >> >> The family's presence in Germany in 1885 was shown via a Birth Certificate >> from a relative of the >> family who was visiting at the time of the birth of her son. >> >> As I mentioned people have responded to requests in the past but with the >> limited resources at their >> disposal could not turn up anything concrete and I am nearly always >> referred to the Staadarchives in >> Hannover !!. >> >> Therefore, if there is another way I could try to find any possible >> records on the family I would be more >> than pleased. >> >> Doreen >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >