Hi, I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm seeking. I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she was told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came on . Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. However, she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set an example, and he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 and immigrated to the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. about 1842 (Von Pitz, which we're certain isn't the correct name. Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) The story goes that he didn't even return to claim an inheritance upon the death of his father. The story also states that the ship caption insisted on marrying them before he would let them leave the ship. They were later married officially in the Catholic church after arriving in Minnesota. For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound plausible? If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, can anyone recommend where she should start searching for the place of origin? Thanks much. Judy

On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Judy Olson wrote: > Hi, > > I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm seeking. > > I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she was told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came on . Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. > > Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. However, she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set an example, and he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 and immigrated to the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. about 1842 (Von Pitz, which we're certain isn't the correct name. Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) The story goes that he didn't even return to claim an inheritance upon the death of his father. The story also states that the ship caption insisted on marrying them before he would let them leave the ship. They were later married officially in the Catholic church after arriving in Minnesota. > > For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound plausible? If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, can anyone recommend where she should start searching for the place of origin? Unfortunately without documentation you'd have to consider it all glorified family lore. Until you can access German military records for your friend's great-grandfather---which may or may not be available---nothing can be substantiated about his involvement in the Prussian military. Perhaps it's best to start with what you can find out in this country. Peter Beheng left a wealth of information in Belle River, Minnesota, where he emigrated. Your friend may want to start there. He also appears in a variety of US and Minnesota state census records as well as land ownership documents. Ancestry.com will be a helpful resource for these. There's a marriage record for a Peter Beheng and Anna Puetz on 25 May 1868 from Belle Plaine, Scott County, Minnesota. The LDS family history library catalog number for this microfilm is #1379415. If you or your friend want to order it at your local family history library, it may name Peter's and Anna's parents as well as possibly giving a place of origin. Good luck with your research! Best, Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes http://sakionline.net/familypage

Hi, Debra. Yes, he did leave a wealth of info in Belle River. My friend lives very close to there, and has seen the land records and census records and is very familiar with the area where he lived, since she grew up in the area. She even owns Anna's shawl which was supposedly worn by her on the voyage over here. However, the marriage record in Belle Plain is new information. We really appreciate that. It is sometimes hard to determine if the stories we've heard as children are embellished. Maybe we don't want to know, really. Thanks again. With Karl's find on the IGI files, these two pieces of info are very valuable. Judy -------------------------------------------------- From: "Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes" <dmac@physics.ucla.edu> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:31 PM To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng > > On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Judy Olson wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm seeking. >> >> I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she was >> told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came >> on . Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. >> >> Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the >> aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. >> However, she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set an >> example, and he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 >> and immigrated to the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. >> about 1842 (Von Pitz, which we're certain isn't the correct name. >> Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) The story goes that he didn't even return to >> claim an inheritance upon the death of his father. The story also states >> that the ship caption insisted on marrying them before he would let them >> leave the ship. They were later married officially in the Catholic church >> after arriving in Minnesota. >> >> For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound >> plausible? If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, >> can anyone recommend where she should start searching for the place of >> origin? > > Unfortunately without documentation you'd have to consider it all > glorified family lore. Until you can access German military records for > your friend's great-grandfather---which may or may not be > available---nothing can be substantiated about his involvement in the > Prussian military. > > Perhaps it's best to start with what you can find out in this country. > Peter Beheng left a wealth of information in Belle River, Minnesota, where > he emigrated. Your friend may want to start there. He also appears in a > variety of US and Minnesota state census records as well as land ownership > documents. Ancestry.com will be a helpful resource for these. > > There's a marriage record for a Peter Beheng and Anna Puetz on 25 May 1868 > from Belle Plaine, Scott County, Minnesota. The LDS family history library > catalog number for this microfilm is #1379415. If you or your friend want > to order it at your local family history library, it may name Peter's and > Anna's parents as well as possibly giving a place of origin. > > Good luck with your research! > > Best, > Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes > http://sakionline.net/familypage > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4914 - Release Date: 04/04/12 >

Judy In the IGI Family History Center records there is a Petrus Beheng listed , As shown ; PETRUS BEHENG Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 25 MAR 1835 Heiligkreuz Katholisch, Fliessem, Rheinland, Preussen Death: Burial: Parents: Father: THOMAE BEHENG Family Mother: REGINAE STYREN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C984082 1795 - 1875 0463568 Film NONE Sheet: 00 Karl Roussin ================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Olson Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:23 PM To: PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng Hi, I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm seeking. I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she was told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came on . Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. However, she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set an example, and he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 and immigrated to the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. about 1842 (Von Pitz, which we're certain isn't the correct name. Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) The story goes that he didn't even return to claim an inheritance upon the death of his father. The story also states that the ship caption insisted on marrying them before he would let them leave the ship. They were later married officially in the Catholic church after arriving in Minnesota. For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound plausible? If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, can anyone recommend where she should start searching for the place of origin? Thanks much. Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Karl. I think this might be the correct one. The birth date would have been very close to this one. And she thought his father's name was Thomas. Thomae is very close. This would give us a place to search. Thanks so much. Judy -------------------------------------------------- From: "Karl Roussin" <kroussin@moisp.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:08 PM To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng > Judy > In the IGI Family History Center records there is a Petrus Beheng > listed , As shown ; > > PETRUS BEHENG Pedigree > Male > > Event(s): > Birth: > Christening: > 25 MAR 1835 Heiligkreuz Katholisch, Fliessem, Rheinland, Preussen > Death: > Burial: > > Parents: > Father: THOMAE BEHENG Family > Mother: REGINAE STYREN > > Messages: > Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the > record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the > birth > or christening date. > > Source Information: > Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: > Printout Call No.: Type: > C984082 1795 - 1875 0463568 Film NONE > Sheet: 00 > > Karl Roussin > ================================================================= > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Olson > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:23 PM > To: PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng > > Hi, > > I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm seeking. > > I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she was > told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came on > . > Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. > > Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the > aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. However, > she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set an example, > and > he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 and immigrated > to > the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. about 1842 (Von Pitz, > which we're certain isn't the correct name. Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) > The > story goes that he didn't even return to claim an inheritance upon the > death > of his father. The story also states that the ship caption insisted on > marrying them before he would let them leave the ship. They were later > married officially in the Catholic church after arriving in Minnesota. > > For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound > plausible? > If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, can anyone > recommend where she should start searching for the place of origin? Thanks > much. Judy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4914 - Release Date: 04/04/12 >

Judy, Thomae instead of Thomas that's latin grammar - the genitive, the mother's name without genitive is Regina. Because of Peter's wife: I'm quite sure that her unmarried name has been "Pütz" (possibly written Putz in America), a rather common name in that area. There is this lady from a neighbouring village: Name: Anna Maria Putz Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Nov 1843 Baptism/Christening Place: KATHOLISCH, MALBERG, RHEINLAND, PRUSSIA Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Maximilin Putz Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Mariae Annae Eckfeld Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C97421-1 System Origin: Germany-ODM Source Film Number: 469152 Reference Number: Fließem is situated in a part of Germany that has been rather poor in former times, today it's part of Bitburg. It has got a nice website with lot's of nice fotos http://www.fliessem-typo3.de/index.php?id=88 Malberg is about 5 miles from Fließem, Here are some pictures: http://www.malberg-eifel.de/cms/malberg/sehenswertes.php Fear that there was no nobility in your friends family. Possibly her ancestor left Germany to avoid military service, that can be true - happened rather often But for sure he was no aristocrat. All this "Eifel" area has been rather rather poor in former times. Many people left from there to find a better life in other parts of the world. Good luck! Brigitte . ________________________________ From: Karl Roussin <kroussin@moisp.net> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng     Judy     In the IGI Family History Center records there is a Petrus Beheng listed , As shown ;     PETRUS BEHENG     Pedigree       Male                       Event(s):     Birth:     Christening:      25 MAR 1835      Heiligkreuz Katholisch, Fliessem, Rheinland, Preussen     Death:     Burial:             Parents:       Father:      THOMAE BEHENG     Family       Mother:      REGINAE STYREN         Messages:     Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.                 Source Information:     Batch No.:      Dates:      Source Call No.:      Type: Printout Call No.:      Type:     C984082      1795 - 1875      0463568      Film      NONE          Sheet: 00     Karl Roussin =================================================================     -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Olson Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:23 PM To: PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng Hi, I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm seeking. I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she was told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came on . Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. However, she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set an example, and he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 and immigrated to the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. about 1842 (Von Pitz, which we're certain isn't the correct name. Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) The story goes that he didn't even return to claim an inheritance upon the death of his father. The story also states that the ship caption insisted on marrying them before he would let them leave the ship. They were later married officially in the Catholic church after arriving in Minnesota. For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound plausible? If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, can anyone recommend where she should start searching for the place of origin? Thanks much. Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message