John Bentz "where were your grandparents before they went to West prussia?" I have no idea John. The earliest that I have is for a great-great grandmother in Kraftshagen, East Prussia in 1824 (Caroline Weinert Freimann). And remember this knowledge is oral tradition. My grandmother was 9 years old on the boat with her siblings and grandmother coming to Canada. The uncles in Canada farmed them out to places to work. So, there was little communication within the family until they were older. (Her brother died at age 19. It is said from sleeping in a corn crib for his work.) At 9, you do not have much family history information. Carol