Just a clarification: Yul Brynner was not a "Gypsy" (i.e. Roma or Sinti) although he recorded an album of Gypsy songs. His mother was Russian. His father was Swiss and 1/16 Mongolian. Thus, Yul was usually referred to as "Tartar". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars Charles Bronson's father was a "Lipka Tartar" and his mother a Lithuanian-American. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bronson As for The Three Stooges: Brothers Moe, Curly, and Shemp Howard (Hurwitz)were born in Brooklyn, New York. Their parents were Jews immigrants from Lithuania. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_Howard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curly_Howard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shemp_Howard Larry Fine (Feinberg)was Jewish but, born in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, not Lithuania. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Fine_%28actor%29 "----- Original Message ----- From: "jetski" <jetski@grics.net> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Slavic DNA > Your problem is not as unique as you might think especially when people have > had to come to grips with being slavic or not. In many circles throughout > the world, being slavic equates to being a second class person, which of > course is wrong. This idea is offensive to all Polish people and to > Russians and to those who are part of eastern Europe. > > Germans had a real problems with Slavic people, as did the Prussians, they > too being Germanic, heneforth your relatives claimed Prussian or German to > give them a higher standing in the world. This issue is something akin to > white verses black. > Lithuania people are for the most part slavic as well, and they also have a > large Jewish contingent. > > The Three Stooges were Lituania Jews. Charles Bronson was Slavic. Thrown > in the mix of all this are the gypies. Ule Brenner was gypy or as their > race is properly known as ROM. > > When people migrated they saw a chance to change their lives for what they > felt would be for the betterment of themselves and their offspring. This is > another reason why so many of (the old ones) remained silent. They chose to > remain silent to change the past. > > > as for those German speaking people, I am not sure, other than the Tutonic > Knights brought Christianity to the Germanic tribes and the Tutonic Knights > were Germans who worked for the Catholic Church. > > I hope I haven't run on to the point of boring anyone, but I have always > found this subject of great interest, especially since my people come from > that area. It becomes very personal. > > Bill Hoeft > >" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.11/838 - Release Date: 6/7/2007 2:21 PM