Anettka and interested others, Yes, I neglected to mention a critical point in my initial query to the mail list. I have always considered LDS/FHL films as resource # 1 and, yes, I have checked the online LDS Library Catalog for films in the known area of my West Prussian research interests. Unfortunately, the towns & villages where my ancestors were born/christened are not included in the LDS (Mormon) film database. Thanks for bringing this oversight, on my part, to my attention. My query would have been much more informative/factual had I remembered to mention.... the obvious choice for economical & efficient research, the FHL films; an option I have already considered & covered, although unsuccessfully, I would be interested to learn where I should look for, as you state it, "alternate locations for these records in Civil Government hands, if not in church hands." The specific West Prussian towns of my interest would include Krumfliess, Arnsmuhle, Wissulke & Schrotz (for vital records) ca. 1818-1862. Thanks to all who have written with suggestions to check LDS/FHL films but under the circumstances, in my particular case, that is not a solution. Bette As a result, many of these records from "German Poland" have been filmed. >there is a website that show where there are records > for the various parish/towns in West Prussia. I've found that while not > all > years are available on the LDS records, there are always alternate > locations > for these records in Civil Government hands, if not in church hands. I > suggest > you start with LDS records; certainly their access is easier and cheaper. > I've not yet tried to write the gov't archives holding the records, but > they are > not always state archives, but can also be civil/regional archives. > > Anettka > > **************************** > In a message dated 4/13/2007 12:06:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Bette: > > On a personal note, however, after spending a small fortune on Roman > Catholic Church records (an 1840 marriage & eleven subsequent birth > records > for one family in what was then West Prussia, now Poland) I am questioning > what other options I might have had. In my case, there were no extant > church records to be had at the local level since the R.C. Church records > of > my interest had apparently been removed from the local parish to the R.C. > Diocese Archives, at a distant location.

Bette This was a response from the Deutsch Krone list. ...Dear Jane, I think your "Schratz" means the location "Schrotz". Schrotz was a location with 1155 inhabitans in 278 households in the year 1939. The evangelish people belonged to Rosenfelde, the catholic parish had an wonderful church in Schrotz. Schrotz had an registration office and also an officedistrict in the location. The jurisdiction belonged to Deutsch Krone. Today Schrotz is polish called Skrzatusz. http://www.deutsch-krone.com/schrotz.htm You will found the location between the towns "Deutsch Krone" (polish called Walcz) and "Schneidemühl" (Pila). Please look at http://www.deutsch-krone.com/map-kron.htm Greetings from the Emsland Joachim Schulz ... I have not done any research at this time as this is not a direct ancestor. My g, grandmother's sister was married to Gustav KLEMM who indicated he was born here. There may be another town by the name of Schrotz, also. Jane North Dakota On 4/13/07, Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> wrote: > Anettka and interested others, > > Yes, I neglected to mention a critical point in my initial query to the mail > list. I have always considered LDS/FHL films as resource # 1 and, yes, I > have checked the online LDS Library Catalog for films in the known area of > my West Prussian research interests. Unfortunately, the towns & villages > where my ancestors were born/christened are not included in the LDS (Mormon) > film database. > > Thanks for bringing this oversight, on my part, to my attention. My query > would have been much more informative/factual had I remembered to > mention.... the obvious choice for economical & efficient research, the FHL > films; an option I have already considered & covered, although > unsuccessfully, > > I would be interested to learn where I should look for, as you state it, > "alternate locations for these records in Civil Government hands, if not in > church hands." The specific West Prussian towns of my interest would include > Krumfliess, Arnsmuhle, Wissulke & Schrotz (for vital records) ca. 1818-1862. > > Thanks to all who have written with suggestions to check LDS/FHL films but > under the circumstances, in my particular case, that is not a solution. > > Bette > > As a result, many of these records from "German Poland" have been filmed. > >there is a website that show where there are records > > for the various parish/towns in West Prussia. I've found that while not > > all > > years are available on the LDS records, there are always alternate > > locations > > for these records in Civil Government hands, if not in church hands. I > > suggest > > you start with LDS records; certainly their access is easier and cheaper. > > I've not yet tried to write the gov't archives holding the records, but > > they are > > not always state archives, but can also be civil/regional archives. > > > > Anettka > > > > **************************** > > In a message dated 4/13/2007 12:06:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Bette: > > > > On a personal note, however, after spending a small fortune on Roman > > Catholic Church records (an 1840 marriage & eleven subsequent birth > > records > > for one family in what was then West Prussia, now Poland) I am questioning > > what other options I might have had. In my case, there were no extant > > church records to be had at the local level since the R.C. Church records > > of > > my interest had apparently been removed from the local parish to the R.C. > > Diocese Archives, at a distant location. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >