Hello, Listers - My name is Julia and I have GP, GGP, aunts, uncles who came from Germany and supposedly Prussia. I'll have questions to ask as I'm not very experienced in genealogy. (Only been at it about 3 months and so far, I'm merely an Internet searcher.) But right now, I want to point out that the LDS has roughly two kinds of records. 1. Source records that they've gone around the world to photograph. These are the same records we would be puzzling over if we could travel to Germany or wherever. 2. Member-submitted "genealogical research". It is a religious requirement that good Mormons research their ancesters and send in their findings to have the Church ordinances performed by proxy for their deceased relatives so that the families will all be baptized and "sealed" to each in heaven. Now, the various members have different views on this - some get really interested and do the best job they can while others want to get it over with. They ALL are amatuers (like me!). In addition, research was much more difficult before PCs and the Internet. My mother was a Mormon in the years before her death. She got really into it and wrote all over the place for information. Even though she did the best job she could without a WWW and PC, with failing eyesight and health, she submitted her findings to the Church for the ordinances to be done. However, the Church checks only to see if the historic persons in the Church member's genealogy already had the ordinances or not; THEY DO NOT CHECK THE ACCURACY OF THE SUBMITTED DATA. The LDS "IGI" records are taken from the member-submitted pedigrees and files. They are heavily weighted to familes of Mormon submitters which means it's also prone to errors with a heavy slant to the WASPy and little info about Jewish or Black ancestors. So don't get too upset if member-submitted pedigrees are inaccurate or even downright screwy. I know my mother's data had flaws, though I'm impressed with she did get right with such technological and health disadvantages. Take the member-submitted pedigrees and files with a grain of salt and use them as inspiration for other avenues to persue, but prove everything. These records are just too weak to use as citation material. Good luck! Julia " I found the following family listed from familysearch.org. 3540. Anna Maria Hail - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: 16 May 1843 Laichingen, Germany 3541. Barbara Hail - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: 29 Nov 1831 Laichingen, Germany 3542. Christina Hail - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: 18 Mar 1839 Laichingen, Germany 3543. Christiana Hail - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: 30 Jun 1846 Laichingen, Germany 3544. Christina Rosina Hail - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: 13 Aug 1847 Laichingen, Germany 3545. Ezekiel Hail - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: 18 Nov 1835 Laichingen, Germany 3546. Friedrick Hail - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: 31 Jan 1842 Laichingen, Germany 3547. Jakob Hail - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: 20 Apr 1845 Laichingen, Germany 3548. Johann Jakob Hail - Pedigree Resource File Gender: M Birth/Christening: 25 Mar 1793 3549. Magdalena Hail - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: 10 Dec 1830 Laichingen, Germany 3550. Magdalena Hail - Pedigree Resource File Gender: F Birth/Christening: 12 Oct 1833 Laichingen, Germany 3551. Unknown Hail - Pedigree Resource File Gender: Birth/Christening: 5 Oct 1829 Laichingen, Germany" _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates near historic lows. Refinance $200,000 loan for as low as $771/month* https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f8&disc=y&vers=689&s=4056&p=5117

Hello Julia, It was nice to see your post with the information on the types of LDS records. I hope others find it as interesting and useful as I. Good luck with your research. Regards, Wendy Fischbach --- Julia Everett <juliasgenes@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hello, Listers - > > My name is Julia and I have GP, GGP, aunts, uncles > who came from Germany > and supposedly Prussia. I'll have questions to ask > as I'm not very > experienced in genealogy. (Only been at it about 3 > months and so far, I'm > merely an Internet searcher.) > > But right now, I want to point out that the LDS has > roughly two kinds of > records. > > 1. Source records that they've gone around the world > to photograph. These > are the same records we would be puzzling over if we > could travel to Germany > or wherever. > > 2. Member-submitted "genealogical research". It is a > religious requirement > that good Mormons research their ancesters and send > in their findings to > have the Church ordinances performed by proxy for > their deceased relatives > so that the families will all be baptized and > "sealed" to each in heaven. > > Now, the various members have different views on > this - some get really > interested and do the best job they can while others > want to get it over > with. They ALL are amatuers (like me!). In addition, > research was much more > difficult before PCs and the Internet. My mother was > a Mormon in the years > before her death. She got really into it and wrote > all over the place for > information. Even though she did the best job she > could without a WWW and > PC, with failing eyesight and health, she submitted > her findings to the > Church for the ordinances to be done. > > However, the Church checks only to see if the > historic persons in the > Church member's genealogy already had the ordinances > or not; THEY DO NOT > CHECK THE ACCURACY OF THE SUBMITTED DATA. > > The LDS "IGI" records are taken from the > member-submitted pedigrees and > files. They are heavily weighted to familes of > Mormon submitters which means > it's also prone to errors with a heavy slant to the > WASPy and little info > about Jewish or Black ancestors. > > So don't get too upset if member-submitted > pedigrees are inaccurate or > even downright screwy. I know my mother's data had > flaws, though I'm > impressed with she did get right with such > technological and health > disadvantages. Take the member-submitted pedigrees > and files with a grain of > salt and use them as inspiration for other avenues > to persue, but prove > everything. These records are just too weak to use > as citation material. > > Good luck! Julia > > > > " I found the following family listed from > familysearch.org. > > 3540. Anna Maria Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: F Birth/Christening: 16 May 1843 Laichingen, > Germany > 3541. Barbara Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: F Birth/Christening: 29 Nov 1831 Laichingen, > Germany > 3542. Christina Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: F Birth/Christening: 18 Mar 1839 Laichingen, > Germany > 3543. Christiana Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: F Birth/Christening: 30 Jun 1846 Laichingen, > Germany > 3544. Christina Rosina Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: F Birth/Christening: 13 Aug 1847 Laichingen, > Germany > 3545. Ezekiel Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: M Birth/Christening: 18 Nov 1835 Laichingen, > Germany > 3546. Friedrick Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: M Birth/Christening: 31 Jan 1842 Laichingen, > Germany > 3547. Jakob Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: M Birth/Christening: 20 Apr 1845 Laichingen, > Germany > 3548. Johann Jakob Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: M Birth/Christening: 25 Mar 1793 > 3549. Magdalena Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: F Birth/Christening: 10 Dec 1830 Laichingen, > Germany > 3550. Magdalena Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: F Birth/Christening: 12 Oct 1833 Laichingen, > Germany > 3551. Unknown Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: Birth/Christening: 5 Oct 1829 Laichingen, > Germany" > > _________________________________________________________________ > Mortgage rates near historic lows. Refinance > $200,000 loan for as low as > $771/month* > https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f8&disc=y&vers=689&s=4056&p=5117 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > To accomplish great things, we must not only act, but also dream; not only plan, but also believe. -Anatole France __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Interesting perspective Julia... thank you! Regards, Robert Lipprandt (South Florida) =========================== Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] PRUSSIA-ROOTS Digest, Vol 2, Issue 124 > Hello, Listers - > > My name is Julia and I have GP, GGP, aunts, uncles who came from Germany > and supposedly Prussia. I'll have questions to ask as I'm not very > experienced in genealogy. (Only been at it about 3 months and so far, I'm > merely an Internet searcher.) > > But right now, I want to point out that the LDS has roughly two kinds of > records. > > 1. Source records that they've gone around the world to photograph. These > are the same records we would be puzzling over if we could travel to > Germany > or wherever. > > 2. Member-submitted "genealogical research". It is a religious requirement > that good Mormons research their ancesters and send in their findings to > have the Church ordinances performed by proxy for their deceased relatives > so that the families will all be baptized and "sealed" to each in heaven. > > Now, the various members have different views on this - some get really > interested and do the best job they can while others want to get it over > with. They ALL are amatuers (like me!). In addition, research was much > more > difficult before PCs and the Internet. My mother was a Mormon in the years > before her death. She got really into it and wrote all over the place for > information. Even though she did the best job she could without a WWW and > PC, with failing eyesight and health, she submitted her findings to the > Church for the ordinances to be done. > > However, the Church checks only to see if the historic persons in the > Church member's genealogy already had the ordinances or not; THEY DO NOT > CHECK THE ACCURACY OF THE SUBMITTED DATA. > > The LDS "IGI" records are taken from the member-submitted pedigrees and > files. They are heavily weighted to familes of Mormon submitters which > means > it's also prone to errors with a heavy slant to the WASPy and little info > about Jewish or Black ancestors. > > So don't get too upset if member-submitted pedigrees are inaccurate or > even downright screwy. I know my mother's data had flaws, though I'm > impressed with she did get right with such technological and health > disadvantages. Take the member-submitted pedigrees and files with a grain > of > salt and use them as inspiration for other avenues to persue, but prove > everything. These records are just too weak to use as citation material. > > Good luck! Julia >

Thanks Julia, A timely reminder, and hopefully a warning to those who think all their research can be done (sometimes instantly) on the Internet! LDS Filming gives so many of us the chance to research records that would otherwise be inaccessible, but other secondary sources such as the IGI and transcriptions on other sites always need careful checking before they can be considered 'facts'. Good luck in your research - genealogy has become rather an obsession with me so perhaps you may like to heed that warning!! You seem to have a very good foundation for your work, so all the best for the future. Kind regards, Bronwyn Klimach. On 4/29/07, Julia Everett <juliasgenes@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, Listers - > > My name is Julia and I have GP, GGP, aunts, uncles who came from Germany > and supposedly Prussia. I'll have questions to ask as I'm not very > experienced in genealogy. (Only been at it about 3 months and so far, I'm > merely an Internet searcher.) > > But right now, I want to point out that the LDS has roughly two kinds of > records. > > 1. Source records that they've gone around the world to photograph. These > are the same records we would be puzzling over if we could travel to > Germany > or wherever. > > 2. Member-submitted "genealogical research". It is a religious requirement > that good Mormons research their ancesters and send in their findings to > have the Church ordinances performed by proxy for their deceased relatives > so that the families will all be baptized and "sealed" to each in heaven. > > Now, the various members have different views on this - some get really > interested and do the best job they can while others want to get it over > with. They ALL are amatuers (like me!). In addition, research was much > more > difficult before PCs and the Internet. My mother was a Mormon in the years > before her death. She got really into it and wrote all over the place for > information. Even though she did the best job she could without a WWW and > PC, with failing eyesight and health, she submitted her findings to the > Church for the ordinances to be done. > > However, the Church checks only to see if the historic persons in the > Church member's genealogy already had the ordinances or not; THEY DO NOT > CHECK THE ACCURACY OF THE SUBMITTED DATA. > > The LDS "IGI" records are taken from the member-submitted pedigrees and > files. They are heavily weighted to familes of Mormon submitters which > means > it's also prone to errors with a heavy slant to the WASPy and little info > about Jewish or Black ancestors. > > So don't get too upset if member-submitted pedigrees are inaccurate or > even downright screwy. I know my mother's data had flaws, though I'm > impressed with she did get right with such technological and health > disadvantages. Take the member-submitted pedigrees and files with a grain > of > salt and use them as inspiration for other avenues to persue, but prove > everything. These records are just too weak to use as citation material. > > Good luck! Julia > > > > " I found the following family listed from familysearch.org. > > 3540. Anna Maria Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: F Birth/Christening: 16 May 1843 Laichingen, Germany > 3541. Barbara Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: F Birth/Christening: 29 Nov 1831 Laichingen, Germany > 3542. Christina Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: F Birth/Christening: 18 Mar 1839 Laichingen, Germany > 3543. Christiana Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: F Birth/Christening: 30 Jun 1846 Laichingen, Germany > 3544. Christina Rosina Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: F Birth/Christening: 13 Aug 1847 Laichingen, Germany > 3545. Ezekiel Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: M Birth/Christening: 18 Nov 1835 Laichingen, Germany > 3546. Friedrick Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: M Birth/Christening: 31 Jan 1842 Laichingen, Germany > 3547. Jakob Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: M Birth/Christening: 20 Apr 1845 Laichingen, Germany > 3548. Johann Jakob Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: M Birth/Christening: 25 Mar 1793 > 3549. Magdalena Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: F Birth/Christening: 10 Dec 1830 Laichingen, Germany > 3550. Magdalena Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: F Birth/Christening: 12 Oct 1833 Laichingen, Germany > 3551. Unknown Hail - Pedigree Resource File > Gender: Birth/Christening: 5 Oct 1829 Laichingen, Germany" > > _________________________________________________________________ > Mortgage rates near historic lows. Refinance $200,000 loan for as low as > $771/month* > > https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f8&disc=y&vers=689&s=4056&p=5117 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >