G'day JB, Sometimes several families from the same place migrated and settled in the same place. Are there other such families and do THEY have more detailed information about the place in Prussia from where they came? (Sometimes you have to work your way around the brick wall rather than smash through its centre!). Secondly, have you checked the church records in the new place of settlement? If they joined a Lutheran Church in America, you may well find that the church kept detailed information on new members of its congregation. Quite possibly these records will be in German. Finally, there's a set of German records that may be of use. Bremen was (and still is) a separate state in Germany. As such, your family would be non-citizens and if they were there for any length of time awaiting ship, your family may have registered their presence with the Bremen police. This type of record (Meldeprotokolle für Fremden ) was quite usual, not only in Germany, but also in other places such as Amsterdam etc where migrants congregated while awaiting ship. The records for Hamburg have been microfilmed by the LDS. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=193218&disp=Meldeprotokolle+f%C3%BCr+Fremden+1868%2D &columns=*,0,0 These records give the full date and place of birth of the individual and that is how I managed to locate the place of birth of my Great Grandfather in Schleswig Holstein. I do not know whether the Bremen "Police Register of Transients" has survived (or were they also destroyed at the same time as the Bremen shipping records?), but it would certainly be worthwhile making enquiries of the Bremen Archives. My final point (which doesn't apply to Bremen owing to the destruction of the records during the 2nd World War) is that many people confine their search of migration records to the immigration records at the port of arrival and they neglect the emigration records at the port of departure. These are two different sets of records compiled for separate but related purposes. The country of immigration is concerned about whether the immigrant has sufficient financial resources so that they don't become a burden on the state; that they're not bringing in exotic diseases etc etc. As such they're not so interested in the specific location of the migrant's home. On the other hand, the country of emigration is concerned with questions such: Has he done his national service? Is he on the run from the law? Has he paid all his debts? etc etc. This means they are more interested in the specific location of the migrant's home town. Hope this helps. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: JB To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 2:43 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Please help me find the link from Castlegardento Prussia Thanks to everyone for your comments and suggestions. I have copious info on Ferdinand and Anna's family here in the US. What I have not been able to find is where they were living in 'West Prussia.' Do you think the LDS microfiche might have more detail than just 'Germany' as Castlegarden and Ancestry have it? If so, I will pursue that path. Does anyone have a referal for a good professional German genealogist? Thanks again, JB ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:01 AM > 2. Please help me find the link from Castlegarden to Prussia (JB) > 3. Re: Please help me find the link from Castlegarden to Prussia > (Sheila Kapella) > 4. Re: Please help me find the link from Castlegarden to Prussia > (D.L. MacLaughlan-Dumes) > 5. Re: Please help me find the link from Castlegarden to Prussia > (Sheila Kapella) > 6. Re: Please help me find the link from Castlegardento Prussia > (Kathy Hines) > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:23:17 -0500 > From: "JB" <[email protected]> > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Please help me find the link from > Castlegarden to Prussia > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > After a hint from the list that my Morse ancestors may have left West > Prussia with the surname Moers, I succeeded in locating them on the > Castlegarden website. > > First Last Occupation Age Sex Arrived Ship > Origin (Port) (Ctry) > FERDINAND MOERS LABORER 26 M 2 Dec 1881 RHEIN BREMEN & SOUTHAMPTON > GERMANY > ANNA MOERS WIFE 28 F 2 Dec 1881 RHEIN BREMEN & > SOUTHAMPTON GERMANY > AUGUSTE MOERS INFANT 7 m F 2 Dec 1881 RHEIN BREMEN & > SOUTHAMPTON GERMANY > > Is there enough information here to lead me back to the Moers' point of > departure in West Prussia? > > Thanks for any help you may be able to give, JB > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 13:57:53 -0500 > From: Sheila Kapella <[email protected]> > JB: You have enough information to obtain a copy of the microfilm from > the > LDS that would show the original ship manifest. Sometimes the > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 12:36:44 -0700 > From: "D.L. MacLaughlan-Dumes" <[email protected]> > I have an ancestry.com subscription so I checked it for you, JB, and > the manifest only lists "Germany" as the place of origin. If you want > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:53:44 -0500 > From: "Kathy Hines" <[email protected]> > I agree with a previous post in this thread, look for obits and the church > (U.S.) records for this family. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message