My first request on this mailing list, so I hope it goes OK. I have been researching the HARTMANN family for some time and wonder if there is anyone else researching it, interested or who would be willing to possible look up a few requests please. I'll give as much information as possible. HARTMANN Christian Hartmann, son of Henry and mother unknown, was born 1803, Braunswick, Germany. He married Carlena Dameier, *who was the daughter of Count Dameier, a French landowner, army officer and member of the French Aristocracy and Catherine PETERS. During the French Revolution (1789-1802) it has been stated that the mother of Count Dameier , was among the many members of the nobility who were beheaded . The family escaped to Germany, where they ceased using their titles in an attempt to secure their anomnymity . In Germany they used the name of PETERS, being the maiden name of Catherine PETERS. Carlena Dameier was born in Hanover, Germany in 1807. Christian HARTMANN married Carlene (Caroline) DAMEIER about 1830, at Othresen, Hanover, Germany. They had six children. Christian worked at his trade as a saddler and harness maker and as his sons grew up he taught them his trade. Herman as a harness maker and August a saddler. The family consisting of Christian, his wife Caroline, children August & Caroline and grandson Gustav Christopher, imigrated to Australia in 1863 on board the barque ³Sophie². *oral history passed down from generation to generation MACKE Postcards and newspapers were sent to ³Othfresen², Dundee, Australia by Ch. Macke to Hermann Hartmann. It is thought he must have been a close friend. One card was of a cemetery and headstone which has Christoph Macke on the headstone and it appears to have been sent by Gustav Macke. The cards were sent around the beginning of the 1900s. Any information would be most welcome. I would think that they must have lived at Othfresen, Hannover. DIETRICH About Fritz Dietrich He came to Australia through Liverpool, England on board the "Rutlandshire" in 1873. He was naturalized in 1875 and the Certificate says he was born in Hanover, Germany. In January, 1877 he married HENRIETTA MATHES in Highfields, near Toowoomba. She was 18, he was 32. She actually had a baby in December 1876. Henrietta came to Australia when she was about 3 1/2 yrs old with her family, from Neumark, Prussia. About Anton Dietrich his father Another thing discovered was that Fritz's father, ANTON DIEDRICH was also here in Australia. I only knew his name from Fritz's marriage certificate. Anton came to Australia in 1856 and lived and died in Dundee. He died in 1875 and is buried in the Dundee Cemetery. He is described as a shepherd and also owned some land at Severn which he left to Fritz. He was on the shipping list of the "Johann Caesar" - he was aged 39, from Hanover and seemed to be travelling alone although information from Glen Innes said he was married in Germany and his wife was Elizabeth Krinner. On the other hand, on Fritz's marriage certificate he says hisfather was Anton Diedrichs and his mother was Elizabeth Jerome. Thanking you, Joyce Bryant from Australia