Jenny - and Karl - and all: I believe Karl's finding on the ship Saale is accurate; he traveled 1st class with one bag, as a merchant from Germany, destination Rochester NY; ticket no. 1966. I need to correct what I read as his naturalization date, though - on another, printed document, the date is 1 Aug 1905, not 1901. Moritz Nathan lived at 70 E. 120 Street, New York, NY. The witness to his naturalization was Moritz Cassiver, merchant, same address. Former nationality: German. In the 1910 census he is listed as Morris Nathan, 34, wife Rae (transcribed as Roe - needs to be corrected), 28, son Albert 1 3/12. Jewelry salesman; husband and wife from Germany, he came in 1893, she came in 1883. Lived in the Bronx. I don't know whether there may be any connection, but in the 1880 census, there is a Joseph A. Nathan, from Hesse-Darmstadt, his wife Esther, from England (parents from Holland) and kinder Annie, Elizabeth, Morris, and Celia. They were living in Brooklyn. Maureen In a message dated 9/23/2009 8:45:50 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Jenny T. It looks like ( to Me ) that the following record from Castle Garden is the immigration ship " SAALE " of Your MORITZ NATHAN. MORITZ NATHAN MERCHANT ( age )17 M , 30 Oct 1893, SAALE , BREMEN , GERMANY Karl Roussin =========================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny T" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:44 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Moritz Nathan and Rachel Sommerfeld > Hello Herb, Karl and Maureen > > Thank you all for your help and research. > > I have passed all three pieces of research on to my friend and from her > memory it seems that Karl and Maureen have struck the famlies. Herb thank > you for your input one can never have too much information and there may > be a connection later down the track. > > Given that I now know the names of Rachel Sommerfeld's parents I guess > that I should look for a death certificate for them. Will I be able to do > much tracing using the English language and text. I feel way out of my > depth. > > Many thanks again for all the help > > Jenny T > > <<Karl Roussin wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:23:52 -0500 > Jenny T. > The only record that I could find of Them is of the marriage of Rachel > Sommerfeld as follows; > > Rachel Sommerfeld Pedigree Female Family > Event(s): > Birth: , , Germany > Christening: > Death: > Burial: > Parents: Father: Abraham Sommerfeld Family > Mother: Bertha Baer > Marriages: > Spouse: Morris Nathan Family > Marriage: 01 APR 1906 Manhattan, New > York, New York > There are records of 3 Moritz Nathan's , however I would need His birth > date. Karl Roussin > > <<Maureen wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:00:24 EDT > Jenny - it looks like there were a number of Moritz Nathan's - Herb found > one of them. > I found one too, (on Ancestry) indicating a Moritz Nathan, occupation > jeweler, filed a Petition for Citizenship in the District Court of the > United > States for the Southern District of New York on 1 August 1901, renouncing > sovereignty to the Emperor of Germany. > The witness attesting to the truth of his Petition is Mortz Cassier (?) > says Nathan was a resident of 70 E. 20th Street - Borough - ? illegible, > NY. > > Nathan was born on 13 May 1876 and emigrated to the US on 30 Oct 1893. > That's a 10 year difference from the Moritz Nathan which Herb found - > sooooo - it looks like you will need to track several people with the same > name. And Castle Garden was kaput by 1893. I chose this one because he > is a jeweler, as you stated. > > The person writing this document was carried away with his penmanship, > difficult to read - but a tidbit for you. > > You can check out city directories and censuses and death records, and see > if this one is your friend's. > Maureen > > <<Jenny T wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:00:24 EDT > > Hello List > I am new to this list, to Prussia/German Genealogy, I live in Australia > and I am doing research on behalf of a close friend. > > We have the following information for my friend's paternal great > grandparents > > Moritz NATHAN born Germany he had his own business selling jewelry married > Rachel SOMMERFELD and it is thought that her family line had established > the town Sommerfeld. > > Moritz and Rachel NATHAN came to New York America by boat in the year > 1883. > > This is all the information we have to date as my friend came to Australia > from America to marry and live during the 1960s and has no family > documentation to work through. > > Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated. > > Kind regards > Jenny T > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message