Good afternoon I wonder if there are any Rosenthal researchers (or people specialising in the history of the Liebemuhl area) on this list? If so, maybe someone can assist with the following query, or point me in the right direction. Louis Rosenthal (full Yiddish name Jehuda Levy Ben Gecheskel) was born on 14.5.1856 in Liebemuhl, Prussia. He died at Brandfort in the Orange Free State in South Africa on 21.6.1932. Louis' parents are not given on his Death Notice , but in the estate papers, his brothers and their children are listed as: Bruno - 2 children, Martin & Gerda (x Hermann) Emil - 2 daughters, Lucie & Eva Georg - 2 children, Lotte & Alfred Nathan - 1 child, Conrad Louis married Elizabeth Boshoff (daughter of Christoffel & Susanna Boshoff - no additional details available re these 2). In Louis' will he also makes provision for a daughter of his wife's first marriage - Annie Henrietta Randrup (married to William Frederick Williamson) I am trying to track down the ancestors of both Louis Rosenthal and would appreciate any help/information Colin

Colin- I don't know if this will help, but the site is worth subscribing to: http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html Livy On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Colin Pretorius <[email protected]> wrote: > Good afternoon > > I wonder if there are any Rosenthal researchers (or people specialising in > the history of the Liebemuhl area) on this list? If so, maybe someone can > assist with the following query, or point me in the right direction. > > Louis Rosenthal (full Yiddish name Jehuda Levy Ben Gecheskel) was born on > 14.5.1856 in Liebemuhl, Prussia. He died at Brandfort in the Orange Free > State in South Africa on 21.6.1932. Louis' parents are not given on his > Death Notice , but in the estate papers, his brothers and their children > are > listed as: > > Bruno - 2 children, Martin & Gerda (x Hermann) > Emil - 2 daughters, Lucie & Eva > Georg - 2 children, Lotte & Alfred > Nathan - 1 child, Conrad > > Louis married Elizabeth Boshoff (daughter of Christoffel & Susanna Boshoff > - > no additional details available re these 2). In Louis' will he also makes > provision for a daughter of his wife's first marriage - Annie Henrietta > Randrup (married to William Frederick Williamson) > > > I am trying to track down the ancestors of both Louis Rosenthal and would > appreciate any help/information > > > > Colin > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Rosenthal's that I am looking for are Lutheran, but that doesn't mean that they are't related. I'm still looking for a connection between the Kleimenhagens from Herrenbreitungen, Hesse/Thuringia (Evangelisch Reformed) and Barchfield, Thuringia (Jewish)...only about 4 miles apart and similar occupations (master brick/tile makers of the 1600's and 1700's). The story is that one of three brothers in Barchfeld married an Esther Kleimenhagen and all three brothers took that name. But I am suspicious that their may have been more to the story. I know some Jews in the middle ages joined Christian church for the sake of business. I have never found Esther's parents either. Carol Livy Revits wrote: > Colin- > > I don't know if this will help, but the site is worth subscribing to: > > http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/faq.html > > Livy > > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Colin Pretorius <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Good afternoon >> >> I wonder if there are any Rosenthal researchers (or people specialising in >> the history of the Liebemuhl area) on this list? If so, maybe someone can >> assist with the following query, or point me in the right direction. >> >> Louis Rosenthal (full Yiddish name Jehuda Levy Ben Gecheskel) was born on >> 14.5.1856 in Liebemuhl, Prussia. He died at Brandfort in the Orange Free >> State in South Africa on 21.6.1932. Louis' parents are not given on his >> Death Notice , but in the estate papers, his brothers and their children >> are >> listed as: >> >> Bruno - 2 children, Martin & Gerda (x Hermann) >> Emil - 2 daughters, Lucie & Eva >> Georg - 2 children, Lotte & Alfred >> Nathan - 1 child, Conrad >> >> Louis married Elizabeth Boshoff (daughter of Christoffel & Susanna Boshoff >> - >> no additional details available re these 2). In Louis' will he also makes >> provision for a daughter of his wife's first marriage - Annie Henrietta >> Randrup (married to William Frederick Williamson) >> >> >> I am trying to track down the ancestors of both Louis Rosenthal and would >> appreciate any help/information >> >> >> >> Colin >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Carol, You mention that "some Jews in the Middle Ages joined the Christian church" They joined not only for business reasons, but to survive and escape extermination during The Inquisition. My own BOMMERSHEIM/SCHWARZ lines from Prussia and Bavaria were Jewish until converting to Catholicism. When my G-Grandfather Emil SCHWARZ came to Philadelphia, there was no "t" in his last name that could ID him as Jewish. His brothers and cousines became Catholic priests. I'm trying HARD to find the German origins of these ancestors, but until recently, there wasn't much Jewish history on-line. Now it is blossoming. Livy