unsubscribe > From: rueckling@gmx.de > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 11:54:19 +0200 > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia AncestorResearch > > Judy, did you already checked the Hamburger Passenger Lists ? > > I have found a person Carl Herzog, born about 1866 in Oberpillau, Schlesien > [correct: Ober Peilau, Silesia, church registers filmed by the LDS] who > emmigrated to America in 1890. I don't know if a person who immigrated in > 1890 could be naturalized 2 years later ? > > Stefan. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "judy petersen" <skigranny@gmail.com> > To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 12:41 AM > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia > AncestorResearch > > > >I have the same problem with my gr grandfather Charles Herzog, b. 1862 > > Silesia. His 1892 naturalization record showed his country of allegiance > > was Germany, but I have no village name. He died in 1917. Plenty of info > > on his years in Chicago, but no idea where or how to look for him in > > Silesia. I'm also interested in any ideas on how to approach this. > > Judy > > > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Mary Ellen Chambers > > <maryln61@yahoo.com>wrote: > > > >> My family has tried to trace my g grandfather back to Prussia but > >> have not > >> had any success. Part of the issue is all we have is Prussia which is on > >> the > >> few records we have as place of birth. Realize that is like saying New > >> England! > >> We have tried passenger lists coming into Baltimore, approx. 1850 > >> to > >> 1860. We use this time-line because, he married my g grandmother 1860 to > >> 1864 > >> in either Cecil County or Baltimore County, MD. MD civil records did not > >> start > >> until 1898. About 1869 he moved his family to Crestline Crawford Count y > >> OH. > >> My g grandmother's family also moved with them. She was American born > >> 1845 > >> but > >> her father was from Hesse Darmstadt per 1880 census & her mother from > >> Bayonne. > >> Again huge areas of Germany to try to find the "Needle in a haystack". > >> His > >> name > >> John Ludwig Kiel/Kile/Kyle. > >> I noticed on the list that there are Civil Records available for > >> some > >> areas in the late 18th century. Would there be a list/index for the > >> various > >> areas of Prussia which state the start for their civil records?? Even > >> though > >> there may be numerous men with the same given & surname, it might give us > >> a > >> more > >> defined area to search. > >> It appears that my paternal g grandfather's surname LIBENS (various > >> spelling) is often in what is now Belgium. However, I have been told > >> that > >> the > >> part of Prussia which is now Belgium was changed D/T Napoleon's defeat. > >> I > >> have > >> a b. year for him of 1836 which would have been long after the defeat. > >> Therefore, find it strange that Prussia continued to be used as his place > >> of > >> birth if he was actually born in that part which changed. Or would using > >> it be > >> better define that part??? > >> Would anyone on the list have any ideas? > >> My g grandfather was John LIBENS b. 1836 Prussia, expired 1879 > >> Crestline > >> Crawford County OH. On the 1870 census the surname was spelled LABENS > >> and > >> on > >> other census LIBBENS, LIBBONS. > >> Once the families settled in OH, we have numerous records. It is > >> MD > >> back > >> to Prussia which is our brick wall. In MD both families lived in Rising > >> Sun, > >> Cecil County MD; near Elkton. They were of the Lutheran faith. > >> > >> Mary Ellen Chambers > >> Lakewood, OH > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message