http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp Place search: Brandenburg and then search under "Emmigration". If you do this with Westpreussen you don't find such a card file of Westprussian emmigrants. But there are several documents about persons who left Westprussia. These documents (permission to leave the home) are in the State Archive in Danzig (today Gdansk). Stefan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorene Seman" <lmseman@wisc.edu> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia AncestorResearch Stefan: How do you search this database? I'd like to see if there are records for my relatives, who left Hamburg in 1868, lived in Podjass (today Podjazy) On 9/29/2011 1:56 PM, Stefan Rückling wrote: > Mary, > > the LDS church has filmed the card file of emmigrants leaving Brandenburg > (central part of Prussia). > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=767068&disp=Auswanderungskartei > &columns=*,0,0 > > The original cards are in Brandenburgisches Landeshauptarchiv in Potsdam > (near Berlin, former capital of Prussia). > > Since in America your ancestor was written Libbons or Libbens I gues it > could also be Lübbers which is a very common name. The American people > don't > know the german ü and understand i. > > If you pronounce "Lübbers" in German it sounds like "Libbors". So you have > to play with many possibilities if you check a database. > > Stefan. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Ellen Chambers"<maryln61@yahoo.com> > To:<prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:05 PM > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia > AncestorResearch > > > Thank you Lorene. Will check this out. Took a glance at it, realize have a > lot > to go through. Maybe will delegate some to my siblings! > > Appreciate the avenues you and Stefen have suggested to pursue. > > Mary Ellen Chambers > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Lorene Seman<lmseman@wisc.edu> > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, September 29, 2011 11:37:58 AM > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia Ancestor > Research > > Here is a database of church records in Prussia. > > Go to PomGenBase If you find the family, I know of a guy who has CDs > for sale with the actual records. > > http://www.ptg.gda.pl/ > > > > > > > On 9/29/2011 10:12 AM, Mary Ellen Chambers wrote: > >> My family has tried to trace my g grandfather back to Prussia but have >> not >> had any success. Part of the issue is all we have is Prussia which is on >> the >> few records we have as place of birth. Realize that is like saying New >> England! >> We have tried passenger lists coming into Baltimore, approx. 1850 to >> 1860. We use this time-line because, he married my g grandmother 1860 to >> 1864 >> in either Cecil County or Baltimore County, MD. MD civil records did not >> > start > >> until 1898. About 1869 he moved his family to Crestline Crawford Count y >> OH. >> My g grandmother's family also moved with them. She was American born >> 1845 >> > but > >> her father was from Hesse Darmstadt per 1880 census& her mother from >> Bayonne. >> > >> Again huge areas of Germany to try to find the "Needle in a haystack". >> His >> name >> John Ludwig Kiel/Kile/Kyle. >> I noticed on the list that there are Civil Records available for some >> areas in the late 18th century. Would there be a list/index for the >> various >> areas of Prussia which state the start for their civil records?? Even >> though >> there may be numerous men with the same given& surname, it might give us >> a >> more >> defined area to search. >> It appears that my paternal g grandfather's surname LIBENS (various >> spelling) is often in what is now Belgium. However, I have been told that >> the >> part of Prussia which is now Belgium was changed D/T Napoleon's defeat. I >> > have > >> a b. year for him of 1836 which would have been long after the defeat. >> Therefore, find it strange that Prussia continued to be used as his place >> of >> birth if he was actually born in that part which changed. Or would using >> it >> > be > >> better define that part??? >> Would anyone on the list have any ideas? >> My g grandfather was John LIBENS b. 1836 Prussia, expired 1879 >> > Crestline > >> Crawford County OH. On the 1870 census the surname was spelled LABENS and >> on >> other census LIBBENS, LIBBONS. >> Once the families settled in OH, we have numerous records. It is MD >> back >> to Prussia which is our brick wall. In MD both families lived in Rising >> Sun, >> Cecil County MD; near Elkton. They were of the Lutheran faith. >> >> Mary Ellen Chambers >> Lakewood, OH >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > -- Lorene Seman, MBA Assistant Administrator Department of Anesthesiology School of Medicine and Public Health University of Wisconsin 600 Highland Ave, B6/319 CSC Madison, WI 53792-3272 Voice: (608)265-0588 FAX: (608)263-8111 lmseman@wisc.edu ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Is this the same as one can search here? http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=4121 One needs to sign in (free) too access this database. Bronwyn. 2011/9/29 Stefan Rückling <rueckling@gmx.de>: > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp > > Place search: Brandenburg > > and then search under "Emmigration". > > If you do this with Westpreussen you don't find such a card file of > Westprussian emmigrants. But there are several documents about persons who > left Westprussia. These documents (permission to leave the home) are in the > State Archive in Danzig (today Gdansk). > > Stefan. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lorene Seman" <lmseman@wisc.edu> > To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:38 PM > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia > AncestorResearch > > > Stefan: How do you search this database? I'd like to see if there are > records for my relatives, who left Hamburg in 1868, lived in Podjass > (today Podjazy) > > On 9/29/2011 1:56 PM, Stefan Rückling wrote: >> Mary, >> >> the LDS church has filmed the card file of emmigrants leaving Brandenburg >> (central part of Prussia). >> http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=767068&disp=Auswanderungskartei >> &columns=*,0,0 >> >> The original cards are in Brandenburgisches Landeshauptarchiv in Potsdam >> (near Berlin, former capital of Prussia). >> >> Since in America your ancestor was written Libbons or Libbens I gues it >> could also be Lübbers which is a very common name. The American people >> don't >> know the german ü and understand i. >> >> If you pronounce "Lübbers" in German it sounds like "Libbors". So you have >> to play with many possibilities if you check a database. >> >> Stefan. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary Ellen Chambers"<maryln61@yahoo.com> >> To:<prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:05 PM >> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia >> AncestorResearch >> >> >> Thank you Lorene. Will check this out. Took a glance at it, realize have a >> lot >> to go through. Maybe will delegate some to my siblings! >> >> Appreciate the avenues you and Stefen have suggested to pursue. >> >> Mary Ellen Chambers >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Lorene Seman<lmseman@wisc.edu> >> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Thu, September 29, 2011 11:37:58 AM >> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia Ancestor >> Research >> >> Here is a database of church records in Prussia. >> >> Go to PomGenBase If you find the family, I know of a guy who has CDs >> for sale with the actual records. >> >> http://www.ptg.gda.pl/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 9/29/2011 10:12 AM, Mary Ellen Chambers wrote: >> >>> My family has tried to trace my g grandfather back to Prussia but have >>> not >>> had any success. Part of the issue is all we have is Prussia which is on >>> the >>> few records we have as place of birth. Realize that is like saying New >>> England! >>> We have tried passenger lists coming into Baltimore, approx. 1850 to >>> 1860. We use this time-line because, he married my g grandmother 1860 to >>> 1864 >>> in either Cecil County or Baltimore County, MD. MD civil records did not >>> >> start >> >>> until 1898. About 1869 he moved his family to Crestline Crawford Count y >>> OH. >>> My g grandmother's family also moved with them. She was American born >>> 1845 >>> >> but >> >>> her father was from Hesse Darmstadt per 1880 census& her mother from >>> Bayonne. >>> >> >>> Again huge areas of Germany to try to find the "Needle in a haystack". >>> His >>> name >>> John Ludwig Kiel/Kile/Kyle. >>> I noticed on the list that there are Civil Records available for some >>> areas in the late 18th century. Would there be a list/index for the >>> various >>> areas of Prussia which state the start for their civil records?? Even >>> though >>> there may be numerous men with the same given& surname, it might give us >>> a >>> more >>> defined area to search. >>> It appears that my paternal g grandfather's surname LIBENS (various >>> spelling) is often in what is now Belgium. However, I have been told that >>> the >>> part of Prussia which is now Belgium was changed D/T Napoleon's defeat. I >>> >> have >> >>> a b. year for him of 1836 which would have been long after the defeat. >>> Therefore, find it strange that Prussia continued to be used as his place >>> of >>> birth if he was actually born in that part which changed. Or would using >>> it >>> >> be >> >>> better define that part??? >>> Would anyone on the list have any ideas? >>> My g grandfather was John LIBENS b. 1836 Prussia, expired 1879 >>> >> Crestline >> >>> Crawford County OH. On the 1870 census the surname was spelled LABENS and >>> on >>> other census LIBBENS, LIBBONS. >>> Once the families settled in OH, we have numerous records. It is MD >>> back >>> to Prussia which is our brick wall. In MD both families lived in Rising >>> Sun, >>> Cecil County MD; near Elkton. They were of the Lutheran faith. >>> >>> Mary Ellen Chambers >>> Lakewood, OH >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> > > -- > Lorene Seman, MBA > Assistant Administrator > Department of Anesthesiology > School of Medicine and Public Health > University of Wisconsin > 600 Highland Ave, B6/319 CSC > Madison, WI 53792-3272 > Voice: (608)265-0588 > FAX: (608)263-8111 > lmseman@wisc.edu > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >