Here is a database of church records in Prussia. Go to PomGenBase If you find the family, I know of a guy who has CDs for sale with the actual records. http://www.ptg.gda.pl/ On 9/29/2011 10:12 AM, Mary Ellen Chambers wrote: > My family has tried to trace my g grandfather back to Prussia but have not > had any success. Part of the issue is all we have is Prussia which is on the > few records we have as place of birth. Realize that is like saying New England! > We have tried passenger lists coming into Baltimore, approx. 1850 to > 1860. We use this time-line because, he married my g grandmother 1860 to 1864 > in either Cecil County or Baltimore County, MD. MD civil records did not start > until 1898. About 1869 he moved his family to Crestline Crawford Count y OH. > My g grandmother's family also moved with them. She was American born 1845 but > her father was from Hesse Darmstadt per 1880 census& her mother from Bayonne. > Again huge areas of Germany to try to find the "Needle in a haystack". His name > John Ludwig Kiel/Kile/Kyle. > I noticed on the list that there are Civil Records available for some > areas in the late 18th century. Would there be a list/index for the various > areas of Prussia which state the start for their civil records?? Even though > there may be numerous men with the same given& surname, it might give us a more > defined area to search. > It appears that my paternal g grandfather's surname LIBENS (various > spelling) is often in what is now Belgium. However, I have been told that the > part of Prussia which is now Belgium was changed D/T Napoleon's defeat. I have > a b. year for him of 1836 which would have been long after the defeat. > Therefore, find it strange that Prussia continued to be used as his place of > birth if he was actually born in that part which changed. Or would using it be > better define that part??? > Would anyone on the list have any ideas? > My g grandfather was John LIBENS b. 1836 Prussia, expired 1879 Crestline > Crawford County OH. On the 1870 census the surname was spelled LABENS and on > other census LIBBENS, LIBBONS. > Once the families settled in OH, we have numerous records. It is MD back > to Prussia which is our brick wall. In MD both families lived in Rising Sun, > Cecil County MD; near Elkton. They were of the Lutheran faith. > > Mary Ellen Chambers > Lakewood, OH > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Lorene Seman, MBA Assistant Administrator Department of Anesthesiology School of Medicine and Public Health University of Wisconsin 600 Highland Ave, B6/319 CSC Madison, WI 53792-3272 Voice: (608)265-0588 FAX: (608)263-8111 lmseman@wisc.edu

Thank you Lorene.  Will check this out.  Took a glance at it, realize have a lot to go through.  Maybe will delegate some to my siblings!  Appreciate the avenues you and Stefen have suggested to pursue. Mary Ellen Chambers ________________________________ From: Lorene Seman <lmseman@wisc.edu> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, September 29, 2011 11:37:58 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia Ancestor Research Here is a database of church records in Prussia. Go to PomGenBase  If you find the family, I know of a guy who has CDs for sale with the actual records. http://www.ptg.gda.pl/ On 9/29/2011 10:12 AM, Mary Ellen Chambers wrote: >        My family has tried to trace my g grandfather back to Prussia but have >not > had any success.  Part of the issue is all we have is Prussia which is on the > few records we have as place of birth.  Realize that is like saying New >England! >        We have tried passenger lists coming into Baltimore, approx. 1850 to > 1860.  We use this time-line because, he married my g grandmother 1860 to 1864 > in either Cecil County or Baltimore County, MD.  MD civil records did not start > until 1898.  About 1869 he moved his family to Crestline Crawford Count y OH. > My g grandmother's family also moved with them.  She was American born 1845 but > her father was from Hesse Darmstadt per 1880 census&  her mother from Bayonne. > Again huge areas of Germany to try to find the "Needle in a haystack".  His >name > John Ludwig Kiel/Kile/Kyle. >        I noticed on the list that there are Civil Records available for some > areas in the late 18th century.  Would there be a list/index for the various > areas of Prussia which state the start for their civil records??  Even though > there may be numerous men with the same given&  surname, it might give us a >more > defined area to search. >        It appears that my paternal g grandfather's surname LIBENS (various > spelling) is often in what is now Belgium.  However, I have been told that the > part of Prussia which is now Belgium was changed D/T Napoleon's defeat.  I have > a b. year for him of 1836 which would have been long after the defeat. > Therefore, find it strange that Prussia continued to be used as his place of > birth if he was actually born in that part which changed.  Or would using it be > better define that part??? >        Would anyone on the list have any ideas? >        My g grandfather was John LIBENS b. 1836 Prussia, expired 1879 Crestline > Crawford County OH.  On the 1870 census the surname was spelled LABENS and on > other census LIBBENS, LIBBONS. >        Once the families settled in OH, we have numerous records.  It is MD >back > to Prussia which is our brick wall.  In MD both families lived in Rising Sun, > Cecil County MD; near Elkton.  They were of the Lutheran faith. > > Mary Ellen Chambers > Lakewood, OH > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message >    -- Lorene Seman, MBA Assistant Administrator Department of Anesthesiology School of Medicine and Public Health University of Wisconsin 600 Highland Ave, B6/319 CSC Madison, WI  53792-3272 Voice:  (608)265-0588 FAX:    (608)263-8111 lmseman@wisc.edu ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary, the LDS church has filmed the card file of emmigrants leaving Brandenburg (central part of Prussia). http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=767068&disp=Auswanderungskartei &columns=*,0,0 The original cards are in Brandenburgisches Landeshauptarchiv in Potsdam (near Berlin, former capital of Prussia). Since in America your ancestor was written Libbons or Libbens I gues it could also be Lübbers which is a very common name. The American people don't know the german ü and understand i. If you pronounce "Lübbers" in German it sounds like "Libbors". So you have to play with many possibilities if you check a database. Stefan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Ellen Chambers" <maryln61@yahoo.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia AncestorResearch Thank you Lorene. Will check this out. Took a glance at it, realize have a lot to go through. Maybe will delegate some to my siblings! Appreciate the avenues you and Stefen have suggested to pursue. Mary Ellen Chambers ________________________________ From: Lorene Seman <lmseman@wisc.edu> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, September 29, 2011 11:37:58 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Suggestions re: On Line Prussia Ancestor Research Here is a database of church records in Prussia. Go to PomGenBase If you find the family, I know of a guy who has CDs for sale with the actual records. http://www.ptg.gda.pl/ On 9/29/2011 10:12 AM, Mary Ellen Chambers wrote: > My family has tried to trace my g grandfather back to Prussia but have >not > had any success. Part of the issue is all we have is Prussia which is on > the > few records we have as place of birth. Realize that is like saying New >England! > We have tried passenger lists coming into Baltimore, approx. 1850 to > 1860. We use this time-line because, he married my g grandmother 1860 to > 1864 > in either Cecil County or Baltimore County, MD. MD civil records did not start > until 1898. About 1869 he moved his family to Crestline Crawford Count y > OH. > My g grandmother's family also moved with them. She was American born 1845 but > her father was from Hesse Darmstadt per 1880 census& her mother from > Bayonne. > Again huge areas of Germany to try to find the "Needle in a haystack". His >name > John Ludwig Kiel/Kile/Kyle. > I noticed on the list that there are Civil Records available for some > areas in the late 18th century. Would there be a list/index for the > various > areas of Prussia which state the start for their civil records?? Even > though > there may be numerous men with the same given& surname, it might give us a >more > defined area to search. > It appears that my paternal g grandfather's surname LIBENS (various > spelling) is often in what is now Belgium. However, I have been told that > the > part of Prussia which is now Belgium was changed D/T Napoleon's defeat. I have > a b. year for him of 1836 which would have been long after the defeat. > Therefore, find it strange that Prussia continued to be used as his place > of > birth if he was actually born in that part which changed. Or would using > it be > better define that part??? > Would anyone on the list have any ideas? > My g grandfather was John LIBENS b. 1836 Prussia, expired 1879 Crestline > Crawford County OH. On the 1870 census the surname was spelled LABENS and > on > other census LIBBENS, LIBBONS. > Once the families settled in OH, we have numerous records. It is MD >back > to Prussia which is our brick wall. In MD both families lived in Rising > Sun, > Cecil County MD; near Elkton. They were of the Lutheran faith. > > Mary Ellen Chambers > Lakewood, OH > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Lorene Seman, MBA Assistant Administrator Department of Anesthesiology School of Medicine and Public Health University of Wisconsin 600 Highland Ave, B6/319 CSC Madison, WI 53792-3272 Voice: (608)265-0588 FAX: (608)263-8111 lmseman@wisc.edu ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Also you might try Familysearch.org they have a huge collection of Pomeranian and misc German records online and free. See: https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1927074 Pax Vobiscum, ...mark (Mark Rabideau) ManyRoads Family Genealogist (Rabideau-Henss Family) *Visit us at: http://many-roads.com <http://many-roads.com/> * *Snail mail at: *711 Nob Hill Trail - Franktown,CO USA - 80116-8717 *phone:*+1.303.660.9400 *fax:*+1.303.660.9217 *member:*Association of Professional Genealogists & National Genealogical Society _____________________________________________________________________ *"It's always useful to know where a friend-and-relation is, whether you want him or whether you don't."* Rabbit, Pooh's Little Instruction Book (Winnie the Pooh) On 09/29/2011 09:37 AM, Lorene Seman wrote: > Here is a database of church records in Prussia. > > Go to PomGenBase If you find the family, I know of a guy who has CDs > for sale with the actual records. > > http://www.ptg.gda.pl/ > > > > > > > On 9/29/2011 10:12 AM, Mary Ellen Chambers wrote: >> My family has tried to trace my g grandfather back to Prussia but have not >> had any success. Part of the issue is all we have is Prussia which is on the >> few records we have as place of birth. Realize that is like saying New England! >> We have tried passenger lists coming into Baltimore, approx. 1850 to >> 1860. We use this time-line because, he married my g grandmother 1860 to 1864 >> in either Cecil County or Baltimore County, MD. MD civil records did not start >> until 1898. About 1869 he moved his family to Crestline Crawford Count y OH. >> My g grandmother's family also moved with them. She was American born 1845 but >> her father was from Hesse Darmstadt per 1880 census& her mother from Bayonne. >> Again huge areas of Germany to try to find the "Needle in a haystack". His name >> John Ludwig Kiel/Kile/Kyle. >> I noticed on the list that there are Civil Records available for some >> areas in the late 18th century. Would there be a list/index for the various >> areas of Prussia which state the start for their civil records?? Even though >> there may be numerous men with the same given& surname, it might give us a more >> defined area to search. >> It appears that my paternal g grandfather's surname LIBENS (various >> spelling) is often in what is now Belgium. However, I have been told that the >> part of Prussia which is now Belgium was changed D/T Napoleon's defeat. I have >> a b. year for him of 1836 which would have been long after the defeat. >> Therefore, find it strange that Prussia continued to be used as his place of >> birth if he was actually born in that part which changed. Or would using it be >> better define that part??? >> Would anyone on the list have any ideas? >> My g grandfather was John LIBENS b. 1836 Prussia, expired 1879 Crestline >> Crawford County OH. On the 1870 census the surname was spelled LABENS and on >> other census LIBBENS, LIBBONS. >> Once the families settled in OH, we have numerous records. It is MD back >> to Prussia which is our brick wall. In MD both families lived in Rising Sun, >> Cecil County MD; near Elkton. They were of the Lutheran faith. >> >> Mary Ellen Chambers >> Lakewood, OH >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>