Hi, Timmy. Greetings from rural Minnesota. She'll be thrilled with all these sites! And the name of the old church! Thanks so much. Judy -------------------------------------------------- From: "Timmy" <ka7915-142@online.de> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 4:55 AM To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] BEHENG / FLIESSEM > Hi Judy! > > Fliessem (Fließem)is a municipality in the district of Bitburg-Prüm, in > Rhineland-Palatinate, western Germany, abt. 3 miles north of the town > Bitburg, type "50.022778,6.542778" into the maps.google.com searchbox > > There is a very old catholic church called "Kath. Pfarrkirche St. > Stephanus / Kreuzerhöhung" (in german): > > http://www.fliessem-typo3.de/index.php?id=104 > > more about BEHENG in Fliessen : > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pick/fliessem.txt > > http://tinyurl.com/835rj4o > > http://tinyurl.com/7vnd3ve > > there are also Behengs from Malberg listed, a village abt. 2 miles > northeast of Fliessem > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pick/malberg.txt > > http://www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/wgff/trier/Familienbuecher/Fliessem.html#B > > btw.: Puetz is a very popular surname in the Bitburg area > > > greetings from Germany! > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2409/4916 - Release Date: 04/05/12 > >

Hi, Kathy. Belle River is in Douglas County. About all that's left is a Catholic church and a couple houses. Farms all around. No stores, not even a gas station. Just an intersection of two roads now. Too bad. I'm sure she will get to that church. It's really fun looking through the old books. I'll pass on your other suggestions too. Thanks so much. Judy -------------------------------------------------- From: "Kathy Hines" <khines1@qwest.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:48 PM To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng > I drive through Belle Plain periodically, but I've never heard of Belle > River before. (?) > > If you and your friend haven't been to the Catholic church where that > marriage was performed, then I would encourage you to hike on over there. > See if they still have the old church books. Look first for a copy of > that > marriage record and it will most likely name their parents on it. Also > see > who the witnesses were for the marriage. They are normally relatives or > very close friends. Next I would look for the children's baptismal > records, > confirmation records, communion records, and most especially any death or > burial records. There is likely to be a wealth of information about the > old > country in any one of those church books. > > Kathy > www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a > time. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judy Olson" <jolson@rea-alp.com> > To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:18 PM > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng > > >> Hi, Debra. >> >> Yes, he did leave a wealth of info in Belle River. My friend lives very >> close to there, and has seen the land records and census records and is >> very >> familiar with the area where he lived, since she grew up in the area. She >> even owns Anna's shawl which was supposedly worn by her on the voyage >> over >> here. >> >> However, the marriage record in Belle Plain is new information. We really >> appreciate that. It is sometimes hard to determine if the stories we've >> heard as children are embellished. Maybe we don't want to know, really. >> >> Thanks again. With Karl's find on the IGI files, these two pieces of info >> are very valuable. Judy >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes" <dmac@physics.ucla.edu> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:31 PM >> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> >> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng >> >>> >>> On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Judy Olson wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm >>>> seeking. >>>> >>>> I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she >>>> was >>>> told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came >>>> on . Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. >>>> >>>> Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the >>>> aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. >>>> However, she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set >>>> an >>>> example, and he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 >>>> and immigrated to the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. >>>> about 1842 (Von Pitz, which we're certain isn't the correct name. >>>> Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) The story goes that he didn't even return >>>> to >>>> claim an inheritance upon the death of his father. The story also >>>> states >>>> that the ship caption insisted on marrying them before he would let >>>> them >>>> leave the ship. They were later married officially in the Catholic >>>> church >>>> after arriving in Minnesota. >>>> >>>> For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound >>>> plausible? If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, >>>> can anyone recommend where she should start searching for the place of >>>> origin? >>> >>> Unfortunately without documentation you'd have to consider it all >>> glorified family lore. Until you can access German military records for >>> your friend's great-grandfather---which may or may not be >>> available---nothing can be substantiated about his involvement in the >>> Prussian military. >>> >>> Perhaps it's best to start with what you can find out in this country. >>> Peter Beheng left a wealth of information in Belle River, Minnesota, >>> where >>> he emigrated. Your friend may want to start there. He also appears in a >>> variety of US and Minnesota state census records as well as land >>> ownership >>> documents. Ancestry.com will be a helpful resource for these. >>> >>> There's a marriage record for a Peter Beheng and Anna Puetz on 25 May >>> 1868 >>> from Belle Plaine, Scott County, Minnesota. The LDS family history >>> library >>> catalog number for this microfilm is #1379415. If you or your friend >>> want >>> to order it at your local family history library, it may name Peter's >>> and >>> Anna's parents as well as possibly giving a place of origin. >>> >>> Good luck with your research! >>> >>> Best, >>> Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes >>> http://sakionline.net/familypage >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4914 - Release Date: >>> 04/04/12 >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2409/4916 - Release Date: 04/05/12 >

Prussian baptisms occurred at varying 'units of time' after a birth. I know in my family they occur anywhere from day of birth to more than 6 months after birth. So your mileage may vary... Pax Vobiscum, ...mark (Mark Rabideau) ManyRoads Family Genealogist (Rabideau-Henss Family); *Professional Genealogist * *Visit us at: http://many-roads.com <http://many-roads.com/> * *Snail mail at: *711 Nob Hill Trail - Franktown,CO USA - 80116-8717 *phone:*+1.303.660.9400 *fax:*+1.303.660.9217 *member:*Association of Professional Genealogists & National Genealogical Society _____________________________________________________________________ *"It's always useful to know where a friend-and-relation is, whether you want him or whether you don't."* Rabbit, Pooh's Little Instruction Book (Winnie the Pooh) On 04/05/2012 07:49 AM, Judy Olson wrote: > Hi, Brigitte. I should have figured that out. Sorry. Brain overload, I > guess. Thanks so much for finding this christening record. We will be able > to find out if this corresponds with her tombstone birthdate. My Austrian > ancestors were almost all christened within a day of birth. I assume the > Prussians did as well. Appreciate your input greatly. Judy > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Brigitte Jahnke"<bj49545@yahoo.com> > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 3:54 AM > To:<prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng > >> Judy, >> Thomae instead of Thomas that's latin grammar - the genitive, the mother's >> name without genitive is Regina. >> >> Because of Peter's wife: I'm quite sure that her unmarried name has been >> "Pütz" (possibly written Putz in America), a rather common name in that >> area. >> There is this lady from a neighbouring village: >> >> >> >> Name: Anna Maria Putz >> Gender: Female >> Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Nov 1843 >> Baptism/Christening Place: KATHOLISCH, MALBERG, RHEINLAND, PRUSSIA >> Birth Date: >> >> Birthplace: >> >> Death Date: >> >> Name Note: >> >> Race: >> >> Father's Name: Maximilin Putz >> Father's Birthplace: >> >> Father's Age: >> >> Mother's Name: Mariae Annae Eckfeld >> Mother's Birthplace: >> >> Mother's Age: >> >> Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C97421-1 >> System Origin: Germany-ODM >> Source Film Number: 469152 >> Reference Number: >> >> Fließem is situated in a part of Germany that has been rather poor in >> former times, today it's part of Bitburg. >> It has got a nice website with lot's of nice fotos >> http://www.fliessem-typo3.de/index.php?id=88 >> >> Malberg is about 5 miles from Fließem, >> Here are some pictures: >> http://www.malberg-eifel.de/cms/malberg/sehenswertes.php >> >> >> Fear that there was no nobility in your friends family. Possibly her >> ancestor left Germany to avoid military service, that can be true - >> happened rather often But for sure he was no aristocrat. >> All this "Eifel" area has been rather rather poor in former times. Many >> people left from there to find a better life in other parts of the world. >> >> Good luck! >> >> Brigitte >> >> >> . >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Karl Roussin<kroussin@moisp.net> >> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:08 PM >> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng >> >> Judy >> In the IGI Family History Center records there is a Petrus Beheng >> listed , As shown ; >> >> PETRUS BEHENG Pedigree >> Male >> >> Event(s): >> Birth: >> Christening: >> 25 MAR 1835 Heiligkreuz Katholisch, Fliessem, Rheinland, Preussen >> Death: >> Burial: >> >> Parents: >> Father: THOMAE BEHENG Family >> Mother: REGINAE STYREN >> >> Messages: >> Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the >> record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the >> birth >> or christening date. >> >> Source Information: >> Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: >> Printout Call No.: Type: >> C984082 1795 - 1875 0463568 Film NONE >> Sheet: 00 >> >> Karl Roussin >> ================================================================= >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Olson >> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:23 PM >> To: PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng >> >> Hi, >> >> I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm seeking. >> >> I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she was >> told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came on >> . >> Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. >> >> Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the >> aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. However, >> she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set an example, >> and >> he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 and immigrated >> to >> the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. about 1842 (Von Pitz, >> which we're certain isn't the correct name. Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) >> The >> story goes that he didn't even return to claim an inheritance upon the >> death >> of his father. The story also states that the ship caption insisted on >> marrying them before he would let them leave the ship. They were later >> married officially in the Catholic church after arriving in Minnesota. >> >> For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound >> plausible? >> If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, can anyone >> recommend where she should start searching for the place of origin? Thanks >> much. Judy >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2409/4916 - Release Date: 04/05/12 >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Judy, Thomae instead of Thomas that's latin grammar - the genitive, the mother's name without genitive is Regina. Because of Peter's wife: I'm quite sure that her unmarried name has been "Pütz" (possibly written Putz in America), a rather common name in that area. There is this lady from a neighbouring village: Name: Anna Maria Putz Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Nov 1843 Baptism/Christening Place: KATHOLISCH, MALBERG, RHEINLAND, PRUSSIA Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Maximilin Putz Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Mariae Annae Eckfeld Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C97421-1 System Origin: Germany-ODM Source Film Number: 469152 Reference Number: Fließem is situated in a part of Germany that has been rather poor in former times, today it's part of Bitburg. It has got a nice website with lot's of nice fotos http://www.fliessem-typo3.de/index.php?id=88 Malberg is about 5 miles from Fließem, Here are some pictures: http://www.malberg-eifel.de/cms/malberg/sehenswertes.php Fear that there was no nobility in your friends family. Possibly her ancestor left Germany to avoid military service, that can be true - happened rather often But for sure he was no aristocrat. All this "Eifel" area has been rather rather poor in former times. Many people left from there to find a better life in other parts of the world. Good luck! Brigitte . ________________________________ From: Karl Roussin <kroussin@moisp.net> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng     Judy     In the IGI Family History Center records there is a Petrus Beheng listed , As shown ;     PETRUS BEHENG     Pedigree       Male                       Event(s):     Birth:     Christening:      25 MAR 1835      Heiligkreuz Katholisch, Fliessem, Rheinland, Preussen     Death:     Burial:             Parents:       Father:      THOMAE BEHENG     Family       Mother:      REGINAE STYREN         Messages:     Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.                 Source Information:     Batch No.:      Dates:      Source Call No.:      Type: Printout Call No.:      Type:     C984082      1795 - 1875      0463568      Film      NONE          Sheet: 00     Karl Roussin =================================================================     -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Olson Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:23 PM To: PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng Hi, I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm seeking. I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she was told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came on . Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. However, she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set an example, and he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 and immigrated to the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. about 1842 (Von Pitz, which we're certain isn't the correct name. Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) The story goes that he didn't even return to claim an inheritance upon the death of his father. The story also states that the ship caption insisted on marrying them before he would let them leave the ship. They were later married officially in the Catholic church after arriving in Minnesota. For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound plausible? If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, can anyone recommend where she should start searching for the place of origin? Thanks much. Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I drive through Belle Plain periodically, but I've never heard of Belle River before. (?) If you and your friend haven't been to the Catholic church where that marriage was performed, then I would encourage you to hike on over there. See if they still have the old church books. Look first for a copy of that marriage record and it will most likely name their parents on it. Also see who the witnesses were for the marriage. They are normally relatives or very close friends. Next I would look for the children's baptismal records, confirmation records, communion records, and most especially any death or burial records. There is likely to be a wealth of information about the old country in any one of those church books. Kathy www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Olson" <jolson@rea-alp.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng > Hi, Debra. > > Yes, he did leave a wealth of info in Belle River. My friend lives very > close to there, and has seen the land records and census records and is > very > familiar with the area where he lived, since she grew up in the area. She > even owns Anna's shawl which was supposedly worn by her on the voyage over > here. > > However, the marriage record in Belle Plain is new information. We really > appreciate that. It is sometimes hard to determine if the stories we've > heard as children are embellished. Maybe we don't want to know, really. > > Thanks again. With Karl's find on the IGI files, these two pieces of info > are very valuable. Judy > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes" <dmac@physics.ucla.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:31 PM > To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng > >> >> On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Judy Olson wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm >>> seeking. >>> >>> I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she >>> was >>> told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came >>> on . Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. >>> >>> Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the >>> aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. >>> However, she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set an >>> example, and he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 >>> and immigrated to the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. >>> about 1842 (Von Pitz, which we're certain isn't the correct name. >>> Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) The story goes that he didn't even return >>> to >>> claim an inheritance upon the death of his father. The story also states >>> that the ship caption insisted on marrying them before he would let them >>> leave the ship. They were later married officially in the Catholic >>> church >>> after arriving in Minnesota. >>> >>> For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound >>> plausible? If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, >>> can anyone recommend where she should start searching for the place of >>> origin? >> >> Unfortunately without documentation you'd have to consider it all >> glorified family lore. Until you can access German military records for >> your friend's great-grandfather---which may or may not be >> available---nothing can be substantiated about his involvement in the >> Prussian military. >> >> Perhaps it's best to start with what you can find out in this country. >> Peter Beheng left a wealth of information in Belle River, Minnesota, >> where >> he emigrated. Your friend may want to start there. He also appears in a >> variety of US and Minnesota state census records as well as land >> ownership >> documents. Ancestry.com will be a helpful resource for these. >> >> There's a marriage record for a Peter Beheng and Anna Puetz on 25 May >> 1868 >> from Belle Plaine, Scott County, Minnesota. The LDS family history >> library >> catalog number for this microfilm is #1379415. If you or your friend want >> to order it at your local family history library, it may name Peter's and >> Anna's parents as well as possibly giving a place of origin. >> >> Good luck with your research! >> >> Best, >> Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes >> http://sakionline.net/familypage >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4914 - Release Date: 04/04/12 >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Debra. Yes, he did leave a wealth of info in Belle River. My friend lives very close to there, and has seen the land records and census records and is very familiar with the area where he lived, since she grew up in the area. She even owns Anna's shawl which was supposedly worn by her on the voyage over here. However, the marriage record in Belle Plain is new information. We really appreciate that. It is sometimes hard to determine if the stories we've heard as children are embellished. Maybe we don't want to know, really. Thanks again. With Karl's find on the IGI files, these two pieces of info are very valuable. Judy -------------------------------------------------- From: "Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes" <dmac@physics.ucla.edu> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:31 PM To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng > > On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Judy Olson wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm seeking. >> >> I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she was >> told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came >> on . Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. >> >> Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the >> aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. >> However, she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set an >> example, and he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 >> and immigrated to the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. >> about 1842 (Von Pitz, which we're certain isn't the correct name. >> Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) The story goes that he didn't even return to >> claim an inheritance upon the death of his father. The story also states >> that the ship caption insisted on marrying them before he would let them >> leave the ship. They were later married officially in the Catholic church >> after arriving in Minnesota. >> >> For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound >> plausible? If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, >> can anyone recommend where she should start searching for the place of >> origin? > > Unfortunately without documentation you'd have to consider it all > glorified family lore. Until you can access German military records for > your friend's great-grandfather---which may or may not be > available---nothing can be substantiated about his involvement in the > Prussian military. > > Perhaps it's best to start with what you can find out in this country. > Peter Beheng left a wealth of information in Belle River, Minnesota, where > he emigrated. Your friend may want to start there. He also appears in a > variety of US and Minnesota state census records as well as land ownership > documents. Ancestry.com will be a helpful resource for these. > > There's a marriage record for a Peter Beheng and Anna Puetz on 25 May 1868 > from Belle Plaine, Scott County, Minnesota. The LDS family history library > catalog number for this microfilm is #1379415. If you or your friend want > to order it at your local family history library, it may name Peter's and > Anna's parents as well as possibly giving a place of origin. > > Good luck with your research! > > Best, > Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes > http://sakionline.net/familypage > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4914 - Release Date: 04/04/12 >

Hi, Karl. I think this might be the correct one. The birth date would have been very close to this one. And she thought his father's name was Thomas. Thomae is very close. This would give us a place to search. Thanks so much. Judy -------------------------------------------------- From: "Karl Roussin" <kroussin@moisp.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:08 PM To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng > Judy > In the IGI Family History Center records there is a Petrus Beheng > listed , As shown ; > > PETRUS BEHENG Pedigree > Male > > Event(s): > Birth: > Christening: > 25 MAR 1835 Heiligkreuz Katholisch, Fliessem, Rheinland, Preussen > Death: > Burial: > > Parents: > Father: THOMAE BEHENG Family > Mother: REGINAE STYREN > > Messages: > Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the > record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the > birth > or christening date. > > Source Information: > Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: > Printout Call No.: Type: > C984082 1795 - 1875 0463568 Film NONE > Sheet: 00 > > Karl Roussin > ================================================================= > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Olson > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:23 PM > To: PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng > > Hi, > > I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm seeking. > > I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she was > told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came on > . > Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. > > Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the > aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. However, > she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set an example, > and > he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 and immigrated > to > the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. about 1842 (Von Pitz, > which we're certain isn't the correct name. Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) > The > story goes that he didn't even return to claim an inheritance upon the > death > of his father. The story also states that the ship caption insisted on > marrying them before he would let them leave the ship. They were later > married officially in the Catholic church after arriving in Minnesota. > > For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound > plausible? > If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, can anyone > recommend where she should start searching for the place of origin? Thanks > much. Judy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4914 - Release Date: 04/04/12 >

Judy In the IGI Family History Center records there is a Petrus Beheng listed , As shown ; PETRUS BEHENG Pedigree Male Event(s): Birth: Christening: 25 MAR 1835 Heiligkreuz Katholisch, Fliessem, Rheinland, Preussen Death: Burial: Parents: Father: THOMAE BEHENG Family Mother: REGINAE STYREN Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: C984082 1795 - 1875 0463568 Film NONE Sheet: 00 Karl Roussin ================================================================= -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judy Olson Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:23 PM To: PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Prussian Military and the surname Beheng Hi, I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm seeking. I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she was told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came on . Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. However, she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set an example, and he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 and immigrated to the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. about 1842 (Von Pitz, which we're certain isn't the correct name. Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) The story goes that he didn't even return to claim an inheritance upon the death of his father. The story also states that the ship caption insisted on marrying them before he would let them leave the ship. They were later married officially in the Catholic church after arriving in Minnesota. For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound plausible? If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, can anyone recommend where she should start searching for the place of origin? Thanks much. Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm seeking. I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she was told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came on . Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. However, she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set an example, and he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 and immigrated to the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. about 1842 (Von Pitz, which we're certain isn't the correct name. Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) The story goes that he didn't even return to claim an inheritance upon the death of his father. The story also states that the ship caption insisted on marrying them before he would let them leave the ship. They were later married officially in the Catholic church after arriving in Minnesota. For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound plausible? If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, can anyone recommend where she should start searching for the place of origin? Thanks much. Judy

On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:22 AM, Judy Olson wrote: > Hi, > > I hope I'm on the correct list this time for the information I'm seeking. > > I'm helping a friend who's new to genealogy research. Here's what she was told as a child. We do not know a place of origin or the ship they came on . Census indicates Prussia or also Germany. > > Her great grandfather Peter Beheng b. about 1834 was apparently of the aristocratic class which normally does not serve in the military. However, she believes his father required him to serve anyway, to set an example, and he did so. Anticipating another war, he left in about 1865 and immigrated to the United States with his soon-to-be bride Anna b. about 1842 (Von Pitz, which we're certain isn't the correct name. Possibly Pitts, Puetz, etc.) The story goes that he didn't even return to claim an inheritance upon the death of his father. The story also states that the ship caption insisted on marrying them before he would let them leave the ship. They were later married officially in the Catholic church after arriving in Minnesota. > > For anyone familiar with Prussian military, does this story sound plausible? If not, where does it go into glorified family lore? If so, can anyone recommend where she should start searching for the place of origin? Unfortunately without documentation you'd have to consider it all glorified family lore. Until you can access German military records for your friend's great-grandfather---which may or may not be available---nothing can be substantiated about his involvement in the Prussian military. Perhaps it's best to start with what you can find out in this country. Peter Beheng left a wealth of information in Belle River, Minnesota, where he emigrated. Your friend may want to start there. He also appears in a variety of US and Minnesota state census records as well as land ownership documents. Ancestry.com will be a helpful resource for these. There's a marriage record for a Peter Beheng and Anna Puetz on 25 May 1868 from Belle Plaine, Scott County, Minnesota. The LDS family history library catalog number for this microfilm is #1379415. If you or your friend want to order it at your local family history library, it may name Peter's and Anna's parents as well as possibly giving a place of origin. Good luck with your research! Best, Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes http://sakionline.net/familypage

I am looking for information on the Litschner family from Konigsberg East Prussia. Johann Litschner married a Carolina Lass and they had Carl, Auguste, and Wilhelmine around the late 1850's early 1860's. Johann, Carl and his wife and son Emil came over to the US in 1890 and settled in Buffalo, NY. The Hamburg passenger list said they left from Saalfeld East Prussia. Wilhelmine married Josef Schierer and also came over to Buffalo. Auguste (also came over to the US) had two sons in Konigsberg - Adolph Johann b. 1886 and Richard Otto b. 1888, but I do no know who the father was. I would like to find birth records for these two boys. Saalfeld East Prussia is now Zalewo Poland and Konigsberg is now Kaliningrad Russia - they're about 90 miles apart. Any help would be appreciated.

You could try these FamilySearch links: *http://tinyurl.com/7rbw55r (Saalfeld) **http://tinyurl.com/7dan5bd (Konigsberg)* * * Pax Vobiscum, ...mark (Mark Rabideau) ManyRoads Family Genealogist (Rabideau-Henss Family); *Professional Genealogist * *Visit us at: http://many-roads.com <http://many-roads.com/> * *Snail mail at: *711 Nob Hill Trail - Franktown,CO USA - 80116-8717 *phone:*+1.303.660.9400 *fax:*+1.303.660.9217 *member:*Association of Professional Genealogists & National Genealogical Society _____________________________________________________________________ *"It's always useful to know where a friend-and-relation is, whether you want him or whether you don't."* Rabbit, Pooh's Little Instruction Book (Winnie the Pooh) On 03/19/2012 01:28 PM, tcbeachridge@netscape.net wrote: > > I am looking for information on the Litschner family from Konigsberg East Prussia. Johann Litschner married a Carolina Lass and they had Carl, Auguste, and Wilhelmine around the late 1850's early 1860's. Johann, Carl and his wife and son Emil came over to the US in 1890 and settled in Buffalo, NY. The Hamburg passenger list said they left from Saalfeld East Prussia. Wilhelmine married Josef Schierer and also came over to Buffalo. Auguste (also came over to the US) had two sons in Konigsberg - Adolph Johann b. 1886 and Richard Otto b. 1888, but I do no know who the father was. I would like to find birth records for these two boys. > Saalfeld East Prussia is now Zalewo Poland and Konigsberg is now Kaliningrad Russia - they're about 90 miles apart. > Any help would be appreciated. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi: I am searching for fellow researchers of the following Hoffman family: Herman Heinrich Hoffman b. 1797 in Dornberg, Germany d. 1866 in New Orleans, LA -m- Hanna Frederika Steinbreder b. 1800 in Dornberg, Germany d. 1842 in Plaquemines Parish, LA Children born in Hoppen, Germany: Hanna Frederika b. 1821, Johann Frederich b. 1823, Frederich Wilhelm b. 1824, Gottleib Lebrecht b. 1828, Carl Heinrich b. 1829 (moved to California & changed his surname to "Huffman"), Christian Gottleib Lebrecht b. 1832, Hanna Caroline Justine b. 1834 & Hanna Sophie b. 1838. Herman had at least one sibling, Johann Phillip, b. 1792 in Dornberg, Germany. He married Anne Marie Dieckmeyer b. 1795. Any fellow researchers??? I am interested to learn if Herman & Johann had additional siblings & when/where they entered America at. I have not been able to locate them coming through any ports. Thanks. Tami Johnston - New Orleans, LA, USA www.johnstonfamily.tribalpages.com

Hi: I am looking to breakdown a brickwall of years now. Peter Keizel/Keezel b. 1808 in Germany married Catherine ?? . They married before 1838. They had 3 children: Catherine b. 1838 in Germany Magdlena b. 1843 in Louisiana, USA Jacob b. 1847 in Mississippi, USA I would love to find out when and where they entered America at. I was able to locate them in the 1850 Harrison County Mississippi Census under the surname "Kleissel". Then I have not been able to locate them in any other census. In 1863, I found Magdlena marrying Alexander Henry Johnston (A.H. Johnston) in New Orleans, LA. I found Jacob Kiezel living with the "White" family in the 1880 census. Then dying in New Orleans in 1896. The remaining years for this family has been a mystery. I am wondering if anyone else is researching this family or can assist me with recommendations on researching this family. Thanks! Tami Johnston - New Orleans, LA, USA www.johnstonfamily.tribalpages.com

Dear Stefan, thank you very much for your help ! Grüsse aus Budapest: W.J. ---------- Továbított levél ---------- > From: "Stefan Rückling" <rueckling@gmx.de> > To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> > Cc: > Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 14:48:08 +0100 > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] settlement LILETIA : where was ? > Dear Walter, > > it's not "Liletia", but "Silesia". > > Look at the second item (20 Junij) when Susanna Topinky married. The S- in > S-usanna is the same as in the S- in S-ilesia, and the -s- in Su-s-anna is > also the same as in Sile-s-ia. > > Unfortunately Silesia is a region, not a town. > > Best regards, > Stefan Rückling > > Stefan Rückling > Berlin, Germany > http://www.rueckling.de/**english/index.html<http://www.rueckling.de/english/index.html> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jászfalvi Walter" < > jaszfalvi1@gmail.com> > To: <PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:30 PM > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] settlement LILETIA : where was ? > > > Hello, > Does anyone knows where were the settlement LILETIA ? > > One of my ancestors, David Lintner came to Nalepko (Wagendrussel, Merény) > before 1734 from *Liletia.* > > See (left, second item): > > > https://familysearch.org/pal:/**MM9.3.1/TH-1942-22656-43455-** > 36?cc=1554443&wc=12758637<https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-22656-43455-36?cc=1554443&wc=12758637> > > jpg: > > https://picasaweb.google.com/**lh/photo/q4-**EGEVOQcxeDQzDcIGgY1ay-XyFrS-* > *n0vR8W1ihF4U?feat=directlink<https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/q4-EGEVOQcxeDQzDcIGgY1ay-XyFrS-n0vR8W1ihF4U?feat=directlink> > > > I google Liletia and I’ve found only this data: > * > "X. Y. born (c)1807 Liletia, Goerlitz, Prussia married N. N. born 1818. > Migrated to England."* > > In old maps, lexicons I could not find Liletia. > > Does anyone knows where were the settlement LILETIA ? > > Thank you in advance, > > Walter Jaszfalvi > > ------------------------------**- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@**rootsweb.com <PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com>with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message > > > > > To contact the PRUSSIA-ROOTS list administrator, send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the PRUSSIA-ROOTS mailing list, send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > >

Dear Walter, it's not "Liletia", but "Silesia". Look at the second item (20 Junij) when Susanna Topinky married. The S- in S-usanna is the same as in the S- in S-ilesia, and the -s- in Su-s-anna is also the same as in Sile-s-ia. Unfortunately Silesia is a region, not a town. Best regards, Stefan Rückling Stefan Rückling Berlin, Germany http://www.rueckling.de/english/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jászfalvi Walter" <jaszfalvi1@gmail.com> To: <PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 2:30 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] settlement LILETIA : where was ? Hello, Does anyone knows where were the settlement LILETIA ? One of my ancestors, David Lintner came to Nalepko (Wagendrussel, Merény) before 1734 from *Liletia.* See (left, second item): https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-22656-43455-36?cc=1554443&wc=12758637 jpg: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/q4-EGEVOQcxeDQzDcIGgY1ay-XyFrS-n0vR8W1ihF4U?feat=directlink I google Liletia and I’ve found only this data: * "X. Y. born (c)1807 Liletia, Goerlitz, Prussia married N. N. born 1818. Migrated to England."* In old maps, lexicons I could not find Liletia. Does anyone knows where were the settlement LILETIA ? Thank you in advance, Walter Jaszfalvi ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Does anyone knows where were the settlement LILETIA ? One of my ancestors, David Lintner came to Nalepko (Wagendrussel, Merény) before 1734 from *Liletia.* See (left, second item): https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-22656-43455-36?cc=1554443&wc=12758637 jpg: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/q4-EGEVOQcxeDQzDcIGgY1ay-XyFrS-n0vR8W1ihF4U?feat=directlink I google Liletia and I’ve found only this data: * "X. Y. born (c)1807 Liletia, Goerlitz, Prussia married N. N. born 1818. Migrated to England."* In old maps, lexicons I could not find Liletia. Does anyone knows where were the settlement LILETIA ? Thank you in advance, Walter Jaszfalvi

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Hello, I am trying to find any relations of Marie Kolczok. I believe she was born in or near Tarnowitcz in 1901. i believe Tarnowitcz at that time was in Upper Silesia. Any help would be appreciated.

have you Googled those names yet? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Pace" <jjpjgp@wi.rr.com> To: <PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 4:31 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Looking for > WITTINGSWALDA PROV.,- ALLENSTIEN, KRAPLAN > > > > IT WAS IN GERMANY (1827) BUT NOW THINK IT MAY BE IN POLAND > > FELL THAT RELATIVES COULD STILL BE IN THAT AREA > > > > LOOKING FOR NAMES REINHOLDT , SCHEMANSKI, GOLEMBIEWSKI > > > > ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED. > > > > JAN GOLEMGESKE > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message