I just checked and indeed it appears some records have been removed, including my Fromke family. Why I don't know. However, I would like to encourage folks to protest this decision. Comments may be sent to info@castlegarden.org or by using the form here: http://castlegarden.org/contact.php. Aaron ________________________________ From: Robert Lipprandt <rloss@bellsouth.net> ...and will continue to do so as genealogy is really big business now. > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? > > Am I missing something? I distinctly remember accessing my family records > for a > Baltimore arrival, thru the Castle Garden records. I know find there is a > search available for Baltimore Ship Lists, thru Ancestry.com. How did we > go > from getting this information free, to having to suscribe to Ancestry to > access it?
Actually my ancestors, Albert Fromke and his family, are listed in the CastleGarden.org database. When I searched the actual microfilm, I could not find them in the New York records. But they were in the Baltimore records, despite disembarking at Castle Garden. The ship's ultimate destination was Baltimore. Aaron Hill ________________________________ From: Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes <dmac@physics.ucla.edu> On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Thomas Borns wrote: > Am I missing something? I distinctly remember accessing my family records for a > Baltimore arrival, thru the Castle Garden records. I know find there is a > search available for Baltimore Ship Lists, thru Ancestry.com. How did we go > from getting this information free, to having to suscribe to Ancestry to > access it? This is puzzling. I can't recall ever having access to Baltimore records via castlegarden.org. I've always had to search ancestry.com or ancestrylibrary.com for Baltimore records. I thought that the Castle garden site was set up only for arrivals in New York prior to 1892, whereas ellisisland.org handles New York arrivals from 1892 onward? I can find no online reference to Castle Garden having the Baltimore arrivals.
gypsy wrote: > Didn't the same thing happen to the social security death index? Used to be > free, now a subscription to ancestry is required. The Social Security Death Index is available free at genealogybank.com http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/ Mona -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt@Sandyview.net Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser
Hi, anyone looking for their Prussian/German/Bavarian Roots should check this German site out which is also available in English. New content is added on a regular basis. Yvonne in California http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/Main_Page
I agree with David. Everything I can get online for geneaology purposes I welcome. i started a little later (in the 1990's) but no Web or Geneaology. I well remember those days of writing letters, sae's for reply, travelling to libraries, record offices etc., and spending hours blanket searching BDM Indexes and the census. Happy days when something was at last turned up and you had to restrain a hearty cheer. Family Search I am not a fan of, but Ancestry is wonderful and the wealth of information I have found there is priceless from the point of my various families. However, they are a business and cannot do all they do for us for nothing, they do not pretend to be a charity. Before becoming an Ancestry subscriber I used Find My Past and Geneaology UK, both useful, but restricted compared to Ancestry, hence the cost. No one "does 'owt for nowt". Doreen J ________________________________ From: David Armstrong <davidrli@iinet.net.au> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2012, 1:26 Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? 2 Family Search continues to be free to the public. The LDS are gradually converting their microfilm collection to digital images and placing them on their website - witness the Pomeranian church records. There are a few projects where they have teamed up with another organisation, such as Ancestry, where access to the images are not available through your home PC, although you can search the index at home. One example of this is the 1920 and 1930 Census records for America. However if you go to an LDS library, you can view these images on their PCs and save copies for yourself on a thumb drive. I regularly use the LDS libraries as they have microfilms of records which I need which are not available on-line, and which I order into my local LDS library for a small fee. (The fee covers their cost of sending the film from Salt Lake City to Western Australia and back). If, between visits, I find something, such as a 1930 American census record, I make a note, and when I visit the library to read my microfilm, I also then view the image on their PCs and save a copy. On another note, it costs all these organisations money to place these records on-line. They have to get the funds to do this from somewhere as money doesn't grow on trees, and they're not getting it from government. In the 1980s when I first started my research, there was no internet, let alone genealogical websites. Research had to be done using pen and ink writing to libraries and archives, and often having to pay for a record agent to do work that the archive staff didn't have time to do. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Kitty To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? When did this happen? That's awful! Is this also why Family Search now has limited images unless you pay for them? I'm getting sick of this! On Apr 13, 2012, at 5:50 PM, John wrote: > Probably because ancestry decided to spend all that money to buy them out > and get away with charging more people to access but claiming they are doing > it for our best interest..... ancestry has a BAD habit of buying up > successful competitors...... ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
You cannot view Ancestry at our LDS in DeLand, Florida as they no longer subscribe to it due to the cost; however, one of the volunteers there pays for the subscription herself and lets others use it. Kathie -----Original Message----- From: David Armstrong Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 7:51 PM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? The LDS has an institutional subscription to Ancestry (and some other commercial family history sites). So you can go to your local LDS family history library to view the record for free. Some public libraries also have access to Ancestry. The Castle Garden and Baltimore records will be separate records, however a ship that called at both ports will be recorded in both sets of records. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Borns Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 5:05 AM Am I missing something? I distinctly remember accessing my family records for a Baltimore arrival, thru the Castle Garden records. I know find there is a search available for Baltimore Ship Lists, thru Ancestry.com. How did we go from getting this information free, to having to suscribe to Ancestry to access it? Thomas A Borns Blue Springs MO USA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Theres a reason..... GREED! -----Original Message----- From: Kitty Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:37 PM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? It used to be that you could find an entry and click on it, and then you could click to see the image full size (not a thumbnail). More and more, the thumbnail has a kind of bar across it, and you have to pay to see it. But there's no rhyme or reason to it. On Apr 13, 2012, at 8:24 PM, John wrote: > Actually Family Search has changed things too. Images now cost to DL > ...... > ugh..... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Hill > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:17 PM > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? > > How did FamilySearch get into this conversation? FamilySearch does not > require payment to see images. It is an entirely free site. > > Aaron > > > ________________________________ > From: Kitty <jewelrydolls@verizon.net> > > When did this happen? That's awful! > Is this also why Family Search now has limited images unless you pay for > them? I'm getting sick of this! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi everyone, I'm new to this group though definitely not new to genealogy. I began researching my families in 1974 and things sure have changed. We really had to do it the old fashioned way of writing letters and physically making visits to cemeteries, libraries, etc. I was grateful that I could look at census reports at my local library back then on the microfilm reader but doubly grateful that I can go right to ancestry and see any image I want to (with index except for this newest census). My Prussian/German lines are: Hille, Horman, Huhnerkoch, Brune, Dreier, Scheidemann, Fledderman/Nedderman, and Schmidt. I have finally found the passenger records for each of my immigrant ancestors but other than that, I have only had limited success in finding them in Germany. Here are my immigrant ancestors (Many from Prussia but maybe not all): Johannes Hille, born October 20, 1831 in Hannover. That's all I know about his place of origin and that's only because he stated this fact in censuses. I have no idea who his parents were or if anyone but him came to the US. He first lived in Cincinnati, then settled in Massac Co., IL where he died in 1899. He married: Maria Dorothee Sophie Brune, born September 17, 1840 in Hannover. I did find her baptism record which was in Evangelische, Rhaden, Westfalen, Prussia so I assume she was born fairly close by. She was the daughter of Christian Ludwig Brune and Wilhelmine Elisabeth Marie Dreier. She immigrated with her parents on October 29, 1856 (Baltimore) and they settled briefly in Cincinnati where she married her husband, Johannes Hille (above). She, her parents, her husband, and their children then settled in Massac Co., IL. Christian Ludwig Brune: His parents were Carl Ludwig Brune and Fledderman or Nedderman. Christian Horman, born July 6, 1834 in Prussia (as stated in various records). He arrived in New York September 1857 and moved to Cincinnati, then Dearborn Co., Indiana and finally Massac Co., IL. He married: Sophia Meyer Huhnerkoch, born June 20, 1847 in Indiana. She was the daughter of: Charles Diedrich "Carl" Huhnerkoch, born August 8, 1807 in Lohe, Uchte, Hannover (Saxony?). He was married to Maria Charlotte Scheidemann. She was born July 23, 1820 in Uchte, Hannover (I think). I believe her parents were William Scheidemann and Elenore Schmidt. All these families were Lutheran. My brick walls are in finding the parents of Johannes Hille, Christian Horman, and Charles Huhnerkoch and what areas they were from (especially the Hille family). I know there is a Hille, Germany but I haven't found any indication that my Hille family came from Hille, Germany. I am at the point where I am thinking of hiring a German researcher. Can anyone give me advice how to find a reliable and honest researcher who might be able to help me? Thanks in advance, Linda Rogers Grinnell
It used to be that you could find an entry and click on it, and then you could click to see the image full size (not a thumbnail). More and more, the thumbnail has a kind of bar across it, and you have to pay to see it. But there's no rhyme or reason to it. On Apr 13, 2012, at 8:24 PM, John wrote: > Actually Family Search has changed things too. Images now cost to DL ...... > ugh..... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Aaron Hill > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:17 PM > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? > > How did FamilySearch get into this conversation? FamilySearch does not > require payment to see images. It is an entirely free site. > > Aaron > > > ________________________________ > From: Kitty <jewelrydolls@verizon.net> > > When did this happen? That's awful! > Is this also why Family Search now has limited images unless you pay for > them? I'm getting sick of this! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Actually Family Search has changed things too. Images now cost to DL ...... ugh..... -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Hill Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:17 PM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? How did FamilySearch get into this conversation? FamilySearch does not require payment to see images. It is an entirely free site. Aaron ________________________________ From: Kitty <jewelrydolls@verizon.net> When did this happen? That's awful! Is this also why Family Search now has limited images unless you pay for them? I'm getting sick of this! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
It's called Progress.... the worst part is all the info is FREE and put together by VOLUMTEERS and then they, along with US get to make other rich by paying for it..... -----Original Message----- From: Kitty Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 8:02 PM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? When did this happen? That's awful! Is this also why Family Search now has limited images unless you pay for them? I'm getting sick of this! On Apr 13, 2012, at 5:50 PM, John wrote: > Probably because ancestry decided to spend all that money to buy them out > and get away with charging more people to access but claiming they are > doing > it for our best interest..... ancestry has a BAD habit of buying up > successful competitors...... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Borns > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 5:05 PM > To: prussia-roots > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? > > Am I missing something? I distinctly remember accessing my family records > for a > Baltimore arrival, thru the Castle Garden records. I know find there is a > search available for Baltimore Ship Lists, thru Ancestry.com. How did we > go > from getting this information free, to having to suscribe to Ancestry to > access it? > Thomas A Borns > Blue Springs MO USA > > > > > Carpe Diem. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
When did this happen? That's awful! Is this also why Family Search now has limited images unless you pay for them? I'm getting sick of this! On Apr 13, 2012, at 5:50 PM, John wrote: > Probably because ancestry decided to spend all that money to buy them out > and get away with charging more people to access but claiming they are doing > it for our best interest..... ancestry has a BAD habit of buying up > successful competitors...... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Thomas Borns > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 5:05 PM > To: prussia-roots > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? > > Am I missing something? I distinctly remember accessing my family records > for a > Baltimore arrival, thru the Castle Garden records. I know find there is a > search available for Baltimore Ship Lists, thru Ancestry.com. How did we go > from getting this information free, to having to suscribe to Ancestry to > access it? > Thomas A Borns > Blue Springs MO USA > > > > > Carpe Diem. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
...and will continue to do so as genealogy is really big business now. Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? > Probably because ancestry decided to spend all that money to buy them out > and get away with charging more people to access but claiming they are > doing > it for our best interest..... ancestry has a BAD habit of buying up > successful competitors...... > > > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? > > Am I missing something? I distinctly remember accessing my family records > for a > Baltimore arrival, thru the Castle Garden records. I know find there is a > search available for Baltimore Ship Lists, thru Ancestry.com. How did we > go > from getting this information free, to having to suscribe to Ancestry to > access it? > Thomas A Borns > Blue Springs MO USA > > > > > Carpe Diem. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Probably because ancestry decided to spend all that money to buy them out and get away with charging more people to access but claiming they are doing it for our best interest..... ancestry has a BAD habit of buying up successful competitors...... -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Borns Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 5:05 PM To: prussia-roots Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? Am I missing something? I distinctly remember accessing my family records for a Baltimore arrival, thru the Castle Garden records. I know find there is a search available for Baltimore Ship Lists, thru Ancestry.com. How did we go from getting this information free, to having to suscribe to Ancestry to access it? Thomas A Borns Blue Springs MO USA Carpe Diem. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Didn't the same thing happen to the social security death index? Used to be free, now a subscription to ancestry is required. Woe is us. -----Original Message----- Am I missing something? I distinctly remember accessing my family records for a Baltimore arrival, thru the Castle Garden records. I know find there is a search available for Baltimore Ship Lists, thru Ancestry.com. How did we go from getting this information free, to having to suscribe to Ancestry to access it? Carpe Diem.
On Apr 13, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Thomas Borns wrote: > Am I missing something? I distinctly remember accessing my family records for a > Baltimore arrival, thru the Castle Garden records. I know find there is a > search available for Baltimore Ship Lists, thru Ancestry.com. How did we go > from getting this information free, to having to suscribe to Ancestry to > access it? This is puzzling. I can't recall ever having access to Baltimore records via castlegarden.org. I've always had to search ancestry.com or ancestrylibrary.com for Baltimore records. I thought that the Castle garden site was set up only for arrivals in New York prior to 1892, whereas ellisisland.org handles New York arrivals from 1892 onward? I can find no online reference to Castle Garden having the Baltimore arrivals. Best, Debra MacLaughlan-Dumes http://sakionline.net/familypage
Am I missing something? I distinctly remember accessing my family records for a Baltimore arrival, thru the Castle Garden records. I know find there is a search available for Baltimore Ship Lists, thru Ancestry.com. How did we go from getting this information free, to having to suscribe to Ancestry to access it? Thomas A Borns Blue Springs MO USA Carpe Diem.
Hi Vera, according to: Altpreußische Geschlechterkunde, volume 15 (1942/1943), page 115-117: ******* Before the Protestant parish of Bialystok was founded (in 1847), the Protestant of this town belonged to the Protestant parish of Grodno (from 1813-1840) resp. to the Prussian military priests (from 1796-1813), since this part of Poland belonged to Prussia from 1793 to 1815. ******* Today Grodno is in Byelorussia. The LDS church don't have Protestant church records of Grodno from the period about 1835 (only records from 1874-1883). Maybe in the State Archives of Byelorussia you will find some records. I don't know since I am not family with Russian genealogy. I hope, this may helpy ou. Best regards, Stefan Rückling Berlin, Germany http://www.rueckling.de/english/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vera Miller" <veramiller@verizon.net> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 11:01 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Hoffmann and Lamprecht from Ciechanowiec > > Hello all, > > I am stuck in researching my Hoffmann and Lamprecht ancestry. > > My great-great-great-great-grandparents Carl Gottlieb Hoffmann and > Catharine > Lamprecht had a son, Carl, in 1835 in Ciechanowiec near Bialystok. I > cannot > find Carl Jr. in church records. Bialystok archives has records starting > in > 1847. Latvia archives has records from 1834-1875. > > Does anyone know if records earlier than 1834 exist? > > Thanks, > > Vera > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Pat - Did you get any takers for these obits? Are they loose in the boxes? Cut from the newspapers? Cindy ________________________________ From: Pat <ddshepherds@yahoo.com> To: "AncestrySearcher@yahoogroups.com" <AncestrySearcher@yahoogroups.com>; Bill Cribbs <cribbswh@yahoo.com>; "Brickwall@yahoogroups.com" <Brickwall@yahoogroups.com>; "mi-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com" <mi-genealogy-l@rootsweb.com>; "mipolonia@yahoogroups.com" <mipolonia@yahoogroups.com>; "prussia-roots-l@rootsweb.com" <prussia-roots-l@rootsweb.com>; "SurnameForum@yahoogroups.com" <SurnameForum@yahoogroups.com>; "We_Are_ROSA@yahoogroups.com" <We_Are_ROSA@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:27 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] I have obituaries I started to collect obituaries out of my news paper (St.Petersburg Times and the Suncoast News, both in Florida). I wanted to be able to help others that were searching their surnames and just maybe someone they were looking for that might have died in Florida. These are from 2005 to 2010 almost out of daily papers. I am in need of money right now and may loose my home, so I would like to sell these. I have 3 or 4 boxes full and I am only asking $30.00 for everything. Thank you for any and all help. Pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I am trying to trace Stolzenhein roots in Germany/Prussia any help from this site would be appreciated. I have obtained the following information :- Johann Friedrich Stolzenhein born abt 1795 in Germany/Prussia? (my great great great grandfather) Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints records the spelling of Stolzenhein as Stolzenhain. Married Sophie Echt born abt 1799 (no info) Known children :- Johann Carl Stolzenhein born 22/10/1819 died abt 1820 Prussia? Henriette Wilhelmine Stolzenhein born 21/6/1821 Prussia? died abt 1890 My great great grandfather Johann Carl Stolzenhein born 4/7/1823 Germany/Prussia? Married Johanne Friederike Henriette Schmidt -No information as to birthplace. Children: Johann Carl Bruno Stolzenhein Born 6/9/1856 Torgau, Germany/Prussia? (my great grandfather) married Amanda Wilhelmina Timm Born 28/12/1862 in Kiel, Germany. Emigrated to Australia on board steamship Amalfi arriving here 21/8/1883. No other info on Amanda as to relatives in Kiel. Friedrich Moritz Otto Stolzenhein Born 1/3/1858 Torgau, Germany/Prussia? Henriette Clara Hedwig Stolzenhein Born 12/2/1860 Torgau, Germany/Prussia? Wanda