This link should be helpful to find out where to write for records depending on the time frame. Yvonne in California http://www.genealogy.net/reg/NSAC/nsac.html

Janet, you suggest the old fashioned way of writing letters to Hannover churches.  Could you tell me how the dates go in these records.  I am seeking information on ancestors in Hannover starting around 1875 would this be too late for church records ?   Thankyou.   Doreen ________________________________ From: Linda Grinnell <fultimers@yahoo.com> To: "PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com" <PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2012, 13:28 Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Hannover information Janet, Thanks so much for your ideas. I will be following up as soon as I can and will let the group know what I find. Linda Linda, have you tried to find these people on Family Search?  Or have you tried Rootsweb's Global Connect to see if anyone else is researching those names and has posted info on them? http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi.  Or how about Mocavo? http://www.mocavo.com/. If you've tried those without success you could try again the old fashioned way by writing letters to the Hannover evangelical churches.  You can Google that for a list of them.  I did that with some of my ancestors in Hamburg and the Dresden area.  Hamburg no longer lets the churches do that - all the church books are at the main archives and you either have to go there yourself or hire a researcher and Hamburg records have not been filmed by Family Search.  I don't know what the situation is with Hannover but it could be worth a try.  You do have to write in German.  Some can read English so I use both languages in my letters.  Also some churches have email addresses and I have also written emails and received responses. Another thing I did was write letters (in German and English) to all the people with the last name that I was researching that I could find in the German phonebook online in the city my ancestor came from and actually found my last remaining relative from that line. You might try writing to a Hannover mail list and ask if anyone know of a reliable researcher if you end up needing to go that way. Hope something here will help, Janet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Doreen, go back to the main web site and top to the top it says Metasearch. Click on Metasearch and then put your family you are searching for without adding the location. Try that and see if you get any results. Yvonne in California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doreen Jackson" <dorich40@yahoo.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] GenWiki - the genealogical wiki I have tried this site several times. Just tried again, but no mater how I phrase a search it never brings up anything for my searches in Hannover. Dreen ________________________________ From: Yvonne <dreamgarden@comcast.net> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2012, 6:22 Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] GenWiki - the genealogical wiki Hi, anyone looking for their Prussian/German/Bavarian Roots should check this German site out which is also available in English. New content is added on a regular basis. Yvonne in California http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/Main_Page ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ancestry has become a wonderful aid for our family research.  In the past I did it the only way available, travelling from repository to repository.  Not to say I did not enjoy it, because it was wonderful when after hours of searching something was found, however, even then photo-copies had to be paid for.  So, when Ancestry, and others, came along I had a lot of information but how wonderful it has/is for filling in the gaps and so much more.   Companies are not in business as a charity.  We pay our annual/monthly fee and have everything throughout the world at our fingertips 24/7 and I for one am grateful.   You are not forced to pay them money so don't subscribe to them for access ... simple.   Doreen ________________________________ From: John <johnstark@earthlink.net> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 13 April 2012, 22:50 Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? Probably because ancestry decided to spend all that money to buy them out and get away with charging more people to access but claiming they are doing it for our best interest..... ancestry has a BAD habit of buying up successful competitors...... -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Borns Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 5:05 PM To: prussia-roots Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? Am I missing something?  I distinctly remember accessing my family records for a Baltimore arrival, thru the Castle Garden records.  I know find there is a search available for Baltimore Ship Lists, thru Ancestry.com.  How did we go from getting this information free, to having to suscribe to Ancestry to access it? Thomas A Borns Blue Springs MO USA Carpe Diem. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have tried this site several times.  Just tried again, but no mater how I phrase a search it never brings up anything for my searches in Hannover.   Dreen ________________________________ From: Yvonne <dreamgarden@comcast.net> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 14 April 2012, 6:22 Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] GenWiki - the genealogical wiki Hi, anyone looking for their Prussian/German/Bavarian Roots should check this German site out which is also available in English. New content is added on a regular basis. Yvonne in California http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/Main_Page ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you so much for this information! Have a good one. gypsy wrote: > Didn't the same thing happen to the social security death index? Used > to be free, now a subscription to ancestry is required. The Social Security Death Index is available free at genealogybank.com http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/ Mona

Family Search continues to be free to the public. The LDS are gradually converting their microfilm collection to digital images and placing them on their website - witness the Pomeranian church records. There are a few projects where they have teamed up with another organisation, such as Ancestry, where access to the images are not available through your home PC, although you can search the index at home. One example of this is the 1920 and 1930 Census records for America. However if you go to an LDS library, you can view these images on their PCs and save copies for yourself on a thumb drive. I regularly use the LDS libraries as they have microfilms of records which I need which are not available on-line, and which I order into my local LDS library for a small fee. (The fee covers their cost of sending the film from Salt Lake City to Western Australia and back). If, between visits, I find something, such as a 1930 American census record, I make a note, and when I visit the library to read my microfilm, I also then view the image on their PCs and save a copy. On another note, it costs all these organisations money to place these records on-line. They have to get the funds to do this from somewhere as money doesn't grow on trees, and they're not getting it from government. In the 1980s when I first started my research, there was no internet, let alone genealogical websites. Research had to be done using pen and ink writing to libraries and archives, and often having to pay for a record agent to do work that the archive staff didn't have time to do. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Kitty To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? When did this happen? That's awful! Is this also why Family Search now has limited images unless you pay for them? I'm getting sick of this! On Apr 13, 2012, at 5:50 PM, John wrote: > Probably because ancestry decided to spend all that money to buy them out > and get away with charging more people to access but claiming they are doing > it for our best interest..... ancestry has a BAD habit of buying up > successful competitors......

Hi Kerry, the main link I mentioned should be coming up in the English language. Once you start searching for a name it goes back to German unfortunately, but if you do find something, ask the list or myself for translation. If the link comes up in German, scroll down to the buttom of the page and on the left hand side it will give you English, Danish, French and Dutch if I remember correctly. Are you looking for a certain name? Yvonne in California > Yvonne > > thank you for the site - how does one translate it to English? > Kind Regards > > Kerry > > > > > > > On 14 April 2012 15:22, Yvonne <dreamgarden@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Hi, >> anyone looking for their Prussian/German/Bavarian Roots should check this >> German site out which is also available in English. New content is added >> on >> a regular basis. >> >> Yvonne in California >> >> http://wiki-en.genealogy.net/Main_Page >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I'm not quite sure what has happened at the Castelgarden site. Late last year, I was unable to sign on to search due to my computer showing a virus warning. I contacted them in Dec about it, and was assured they were aware, and it would be fixed in January. Well, when the site was fixed, I again began searching my family. Every surname I put in came up "no records found". Even when I put in the one family I had located previous to the virus fiasco, that name came up no records. Now, previously I would get 3 pages of names. Where did all those immigrants go? Perhaps if enough people inquire/complain about whats going on there, they will fix things. Diane On Apr 13, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Aaron Hill wrote: > I just checked and indeed it appears some records have been removed, including my Fromke family. Why I don't know. However, I would like to encourage folks to protest this decision. Comments may be sent to info@castlegarden.org or by using the form here: http://castlegarden.org/contact.php. > > Aaron > > > ________________________________ > From: Robert Lipprandt <rloss@bellsouth.net> > > ...and will continue to do so as genealogy is really big business now. > >> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? >> >> Am I missing something? I distinctly remember accessing my family records >> for a >> Baltimore arrival, thru the Castle Garden records. I know find there is a >> search available for Baltimore Ship Lists, thru Ancestry.com. How did we >> go >> from getting this information free, to having to suscribe to Ancestry to >> access it? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The LDS has an institutional subscription to Ancestry (and some other commercial family history sites). So you can go to your local LDS family history library to view the record for free. Some public libraries also have access to Ancestry. The Castle Garden and Baltimore records will be separate records, however a ship that called at both ports will be recorded in both sets of records. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Borns Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 5:05 AM Am I missing something? I distinctly remember accessing my family records for a Baltimore arrival, thru the Castle Garden records. I know find there is a search available for Baltimore Ship Lists, thru Ancestry.com. How did we go from getting this information free, to having to suscribe to Ancestry to access it? Thomas A Borns Blue Springs MO USA

Brigitte, You asked why I don't know if my ancestor was a Fledderman or a Nedderman. It's because the LDS website had both names so I'm not sure if it was a matter of not being able to read the hand-written record or not. Thanks for your reply. All of the responses I have received in answer to my query as very helpful and I can't wait to utilize everyone's suggestions. Linda Hello Janet and Linda, because of Hannover church records and LDS films: LDS did not film any record of the Hannover churches. But they filemed copies of records of the 19th century that have been deposited in different States Archives. They did not copy these records? in all areas of Hannover. A problem might become that most of the names in Linda's list are quite common, especially Brune, Dreier, and Schmidt. So you should give more details. H?hnerkoch is rather rare and that family should be from the Uchte area. There were at least Carl H?hnerkoch and Marie Sophie Brand n?e H?hnerkoch who emigrated. And why can't you decide whether it is Neddermann or Fleddermann? Good luck! Brigitte

Brigitte, Thanks so much for all your ideas. I will be following up as soon as I can and will let the group know how I have done. Linda Hi Linda, Here is a source for the emigration of Cark Lohe from Lohe (today part of Stöckse) in the Uchte area, left in 1835 The isgnature is: Hauptstattsarchiv Hannover Sonderfindbücher Auswanderer Nr. 63 Hann 74 Uchte This is  from a website where you could get a copy of the record from the Niedersächsiches Landesarchiv, unfortunately it's almost impossible to use that website. It's rather uncofortable. You can may make a try: http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/ Unfortunately there are ab. 4.800 hits for Hille and a detailed search for a person is not possible Brune has got the same number of hits, Scheidemann seems to be a name from the Uchte area too. Good luck again! Brigitte

Stefan, Thank you so much for all your good ideas. I will be following up as soon as possible and will let the group know how I have done. Linda Hi Linda, your ancestors seem to be come from the kingdom of Hannover which was occupated by Prussia in 1866. The church records of Hannover are in the Curch Archives of Hannover, they are not filmed by the LDS church. You should contact the Association of German Speaking Genealogists - the president of this Association (Mr. Kaufmann) is specialized on the Hannover area. Click nn this map http://www.berufsgenealogie.net/english/karten.html on Hannover, then you will find 2 researches. Sincerely, Stefan Rückling Berlin, Germany

Janet, Thanks so much for your ideas. I will be following up as soon as I can and will let the group know what I find. Linda Linda, have you tried to find these people on Family Search?  Or have you tried Rootsweb's Global Connect to see if anyone else is researching those names and has posted info on them? http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi.  Or how about Mocavo? http://www.mocavo.com/. If you've tried those without success you could try again the old fashioned way by writing letters to the Hannover evangelical churches.  You can Google that for a list of them.  I did that with some of my ancestors in Hamburg and the Dresden area.  Hamburg no longer lets the churches do that - all the church books are at the main archives and you either have to go there yourself or hire a researcher and Hamburg records have not been filmed by Family Search.  I don't know what the situation is with Hannover but it could be worth a try.  You do have to write in German.  Some can read English so I use both languages in my letters.  Also some churches have email addresses and I have also written emails and received responses. Another thing I did was write letters (in German and English) to all the people with the last name that I was researching that I could find in the German phonebook online in the city my ancestor came from and actually found my last remaining relative from that line. You might try writing to a Hannover mail list and ask if anyone know of a reliable researcher if you end up needing to go that way. Hope something here will help, Janet

Hi Linda, Here is a source for the emigration of Cark Lohe from Lohe (today part of Stöckse) in the Uchte area, left in 1835 The isgnature is: Hauptstattsarchiv Hannover Sonderfindbücher Auswanderer Nr. 63 Hann 74 Uchte This is  from a website where you could get a copy of the record from the Niedersächsiches Landesarchiv, unfortunately it's almost impossible to use that website. It's rather uncofortable. You can may make a try: http://aidaonline.niedersachsen.de/ Unfortunately there are ab. 4.800 hits for Hille and a detailed search for a person is not possible Brune has got the same number of hits, Scheidemann seems to be a name from the Uchte area too. Good luck again! Brigitte ________________________________ From: Linda Grinnell <fultimers@yahoo.com> To: "PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com" <PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 5:47 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] HILLE, BRUNE, DREIER, HORMAN, HUHNERKOCH, SCHMIDT, NEDDERMAN/FLEDDERMAN Hi everyone, I'm new to this group though definitely not new to genealogy. I began researching my families in 1974 and things sure have changed. We really had to do it the old fashioned way of writing letters and physically making visits to cemeteries, libraries, etc. I was grateful that I could look at census reports at my local library back then on the microfilm reader but doubly grateful that I can go right to ancestry and see any image I want to (with index except for this newest census). My Prussian/German lines are: Hille, Horman, Huhnerkoch, Brune, Dreier, Scheidemann, Fledderman/Nedderman, and Schmidt. I have finally found the passenger records for each of my immigrant ancestors but other than that, I have only had limited success in finding them in Germany. Here are my immigrant ancestors (Many from Prussia but maybe not all): Johannes Hille, born October 20, 1831 in Hannover. That's all I know about his place of origin and that's only because he stated this fact in censuses. I have no idea who his parents were or if anyone but him came to the US. He first lived in Cincinnati, then settled in Massac Co., IL where he died in 1899. He married: Maria Dorothee Sophie Brune, born September 17, 1840 in Hannover. I did find her baptism record which was in Evangelische, Rhaden, Westfalen, Prussia so I assume she was born fairly close by. She was the daughter of Christian Ludwig Brune and Wilhelmine Elisabeth Marie Dreier. She immigrated with her parents on October 29, 1856 (Baltimore) and they settled briefly in Cincinnati where she married her husband, Johannes Hille (above). She, her parents, her husband, and their children then settled in Massac Co., IL. Christian Ludwig Brune: His parents were Carl Ludwig Brune and Fledderman or Nedderman. Christian Horman, born July 6, 1834 in Prussia (as stated in various records). He arrived in New York September 1857 and moved to Cincinnati, then Dearborn Co., Indiana and finally Massac Co., IL. He married: Sophia Meyer Huhnerkoch, born June 20, 1847 in Indiana. She was the daughter of: Charles Diedrich "Carl" Huhnerkoch, born August 8, 1807 in Lohe, Uchte, Hannover (Saxony?). He was married to Maria Charlotte Scheidemann. She was born July 23, 1820 in Uchte, Hannover (I think). I believe her parents were William Scheidemann and Elenore Schmidt. All these families were Lutheran. My brick walls are in finding the parents of Johannes Hille, Christian Horman, and Charles Huhnerkoch and what areas they were from (especially the Hille family). I know there is a Hille, Germany but I haven't found any indication that my Hille family came from Hille, Germany. I am at the point where I am thinking of hiring a German researcher. Can anyone give me advice how to find a reliable and honest researcher who might be able to help me? Thanks in advance, Linda Rogers Grinnell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jaet and Linda, because of Hannover church records and LDS films: LDS did not film any record of the Hannover churches. But they filemed copies of records of the 19th century that have been deposited in different States Archives. They did not copy these records  in all areas of Hannover. A problem might become that most of the names in Linda's list are quite common, especially Brune, Dreier, and Schmidt. So you should give more details. Hühnerkoch is rather rare and that family should be from the Uchte area. There were at least Carl Hühnerkoch and Marie Sophie Brand née Hühnerkoch who emigrated. And why can't you decide whether it is Neddermann or Fleddermann? Good luck! Brigitte ________________________________ From: Janet <9whitegardenia92@comcast.net> To: Linda Grinnell <fultimers@yahoo.com>; prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] HILLE, BRUNE, DREIER, HORMAN, HUHNERKOCH, SCHMIDT, NEDDERMAN/FLEDDERMAN Linda, have you tried to find these people on Family Search?  Or have you tried Rootsweb's Global Connect to see if anyone else is researching those names and has posted info on them? http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi.  Or how about Mocavo? http://www.mocavo.com/. If you've tried those without success you could try again the old fashioned way by writing letters to the Hannover evangelical churches.  You can Google that for a list of them.  I did that with some of my ancestors in Hamburg and the Dresden area.  Hamburg no longer lets the churches do that - all the church books are at the main archives and you either have to go there yourself or hire a researcher and Hamburg records have not been filmed by Family Search.  I don't know what the situation is with Hannover but it could be worth a try.  You do have to write in German.  Some can read English so I use both languages in my letters.  Also some churches have email addresses and I have also written emails and received responses. Another thing I did was write letters (in German and English) to all the people with the last name that I was researching that I could find in the German phonebook online in the city my ancestor came from and actually found my last remaining relative from that line. You might try writing to a Hannover mail list and ask if anyone know of a reliable researcher if you end up needing to go that way. Hope something here will help, Janet -----Original Message----- From: Linda Grinnell Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:47 PM To: PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] HILLE, BRUNE, DREIER, HORMAN, HUHNERKOCH, SCHMIDT,NEDDERMAN/FLEDDERMAN Hi everyone, I'm new to this group though definitely not new to genealogy. I began researching my families in 1974 and things sure have changed. We really had to do it the old fashioned way of writing letters and physically making visits to cemeteries, libraries, etc. I was grateful that I could look at census reports at my local library back then on the microfilm reader but doubly grateful that I can go right to ancestry and see any image I want to (with index except for this newest census). My Prussian/German lines are: Hille, Horman, Huhnerkoch, Brune, Dreier, Scheidemann, Fledderman/Nedderman, and Schmidt. I have finally found the passenger records for each of my immigrant ancestors but other than that, I have only had limited success in finding them in Germany. Here are my immigrant ancestors (Many from Prussia but maybe not all): Johannes Hille, born October 20, 1831 in Hannover. That's all I know about his place of origin and that's only because he stated this fact in censuses. I have no idea who his parents were or if anyone but him came to the US. He first lived in Cincinnati, then settled in Massac Co., IL where he died in 1899. He married: Maria Dorothee Sophie Brune, born September 17, 1840 in Hannover. I did find her baptism record which was in Evangelische, Rhaden, Westfalen, Prussia so I assume she was born fairly close by. She was the daughter of Christian Ludwig Brune and Wilhelmine Elisabeth Marie Dreier. She immigrated with her parents on October 29, 1856 (Baltimore) and they settled briefly in Cincinnati where she married her husband, Johannes Hille (above). She, her parents, her husband, and their children then settled in Massac Co., IL. Christian Ludwig Brune: His parents were Carl Ludwig Brune and Fledderman or Nedderman. Christian Horman, born July 6, 1834 in Prussia (as stated in various records). He arrived in New York September 1857 and moved to Cincinnati, then Dearborn Co., Indiana and finally Massac Co., IL. He married: Sophia Meyer Huhnerkoch, born June 20, 1847 in Indiana. She was the daughter of: Charles Diedrich "Carl" Huhnerkoch, born August 8, 1807 in Lohe, Uchte, Hannover (Saxony?). He was married to Maria Charlotte Scheidemann. She was born July 23, 1820 in Uchte, Hannover (I think). I believe her parents were William Scheidemann and Elenore Schmidt. All these families were Lutheran. My brick walls are in finding the parents of Johannes Hille, Christian Horman, and Charles Huhnerkoch and what areas they were from (especially the Hille family). I know there is a Hille, Germany but I haven't found any indication that my Hille family came from Hille, Germany. I am at the point where I am thinking of hiring a German researcher. Can anyone give me advice how to find a reliable and honest researcher who might be able to help me? Thanks in advance, Linda Rogers Grinnell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can we get back on topic please? ________________________________ From: Kathie <kathieg333@cfl.rr.com> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 13 April 2012, 18:24 Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? You cannot view Ancestry at our LDS in DeLand, Florida as they no longer subscribe to it due to the cost; however, one of the volunteers there pays for the subscription herself and lets others use it. Kathie

Most images at FamilySearch remain free. It is the ones provided by outsiders, such as Ancestry, that cost money to download, unless one goes to a Family History Center. Aaron ________________________________ From: John <johnstark@earthlink.net> To: Aaron Hill <aaronjhill@yahoo.co.uk>; prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 13 April 2012, 17:24 Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Missing something? Actually Family Search has changed things too. Images now cost to DL ...... ugh.....

How did FamilySearch get into this conversation? FamilySearch does not require payment to see images. It is an entirely free site. Aaron ________________________________ From: Kitty <jewelrydolls@verizon.net> When did this happen? That's awful! Is this also why Family Search now has limited images unless you pay for them? I'm getting sick of this!

Linda, have you tried to find these people on Family Search? Or have you tried Rootsweb's Global Connect to see if anyone else is researching those names and has posted info on them? http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi. Or how about Mocavo? http://www.mocavo.com/. If you've tried those without success you could try again the old fashioned way by writing letters to the Hannover evangelical churches. You can Google that for a list of them. I did that with some of my ancestors in Hamburg and the Dresden area. Hamburg no longer lets the churches do that - all the church books are at the main archives and you either have to go there yourself or hire a researcher and Hamburg records have not been filmed by Family Search. I don't know what the situation is with Hannover but it could be worth a try. You do have to write in German. Some can read English so I use both languages in my letters. Also some churches have email addresses and I have also written emails and received responses. Another thing I did was write letters (in German and English) to all the people with the last name that I was researching that I could find in the German phonebook online in the city my ancestor came from and actually found my last remaining relative from that line. You might try writing to a Hannover mail list and ask if anyone know of a reliable researcher if you end up needing to go that way. Hope something here will help, Janet -----Original Message----- From: Linda Grinnell Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:47 PM To: PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] HILLE, BRUNE, DREIER, HORMAN, HUHNERKOCH, SCHMIDT,NEDDERMAN/FLEDDERMAN Hi everyone, I'm new to this group though definitely not new to genealogy. I began researching my families in 1974 and things sure have changed. We really had to do it the old fashioned way of writing letters and physically making visits to cemeteries, libraries, etc. I was grateful that I could look at census reports at my local library back then on the microfilm reader but doubly grateful that I can go right to ancestry and see any image I want to (with index except for this newest census). My Prussian/German lines are: Hille, Horman, Huhnerkoch, Brune, Dreier, Scheidemann, Fledderman/Nedderman, and Schmidt. I have finally found the passenger records for each of my immigrant ancestors but other than that, I have only had limited success in finding them in Germany. Here are my immigrant ancestors (Many from Prussia but maybe not all): Johannes Hille, born October 20, 1831 in Hannover. That's all I know about his place of origin and that's only because he stated this fact in censuses. I have no idea who his parents were or if anyone but him came to the US. He first lived in Cincinnati, then settled in Massac Co., IL where he died in 1899. He married: Maria Dorothee Sophie Brune, born September 17, 1840 in Hannover. I did find her baptism record which was in Evangelische, Rhaden, Westfalen, Prussia so I assume she was born fairly close by. She was the daughter of Christian Ludwig Brune and Wilhelmine Elisabeth Marie Dreier. She immigrated with her parents on October 29, 1856 (Baltimore) and they settled briefly in Cincinnati where she married her husband, Johannes Hille (above). She, her parents, her husband, and their children then settled in Massac Co., IL. Christian Ludwig Brune: His parents were Carl Ludwig Brune and Fledderman or Nedderman. Christian Horman, born July 6, 1834 in Prussia (as stated in various records). He arrived in New York September 1857 and moved to Cincinnati, then Dearborn Co., Indiana and finally Massac Co., IL. He married: Sophia Meyer Huhnerkoch, born June 20, 1847 in Indiana. She was the daughter of: Charles Diedrich "Carl" Huhnerkoch, born August 8, 1807 in Lohe, Uchte, Hannover (Saxony?). He was married to Maria Charlotte Scheidemann. She was born July 23, 1820 in Uchte, Hannover (I think). I believe her parents were William Scheidemann and Elenore Schmidt. All these families were Lutheran. My brick walls are in finding the parents of Johannes Hille, Christian Horman, and Charles Huhnerkoch and what areas they were from (especially the Hille family). I know there is a Hille, Germany but I haven't found any indication that my Hille family came from Hille, Germany. I am at the point where I am thinking of hiring a German researcher. Can anyone give me advice how to find a reliable and honest researcher who might be able to help me? Thanks in advance, Linda Rogers Grinnell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message