In the 1920,s one of my relatives living in Australia changed his German name to an English one.  His father was German and mother English.  He was a Marine Engineer so was around the dockyards which were sensitive areas I guess, obviously he had run into some sort of trouble so thought to "play safe". However, during WW2 because he had changed his name and, from what I can gather, said something untoward, became the subject of an investigation by the Australian authorities.  The record was found for me during a search and after a lapse of several weeks during which the authorities had, I am told, checked them for anything sensitive, they were released to me.  Reading through the documents Every -thing appears to be perfectly innocent and I do not get the feeling that anything was taken out.   This does show the prejudices that abounded during the two world wars.  If you were of German descent you needed to be very careful what you spoke out loud.   Doreen     ________________________________ From: Aaron Hill <aaronjhill@yahoo.co.uk> To: "prussia-roots@rootsweb.com" <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 15 April 2012, 22:10 Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Curious During and after World War I it shouldn't be surprising that a German or his relatives declared him an Austrian. Many did not stop there, even changing German names to more Anglicized versions. Sauerkraut was called Liberty cabbage. Anti-German sentiment was widespread. Aaron ________________________________ From: Kitty <jewelrydolls@verizon.net> I have the same problem. When his little son died in the late 1880s, his father listed himself as German. Then in the 1880 census he listed himself as Prussian. Then in the 1920 census, his daughters listed him as Austrian. I can't understand this either. Kit ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so much John. That helps. So, where would one write in that area to get information on her? Or what web pages can you recommend me? Is Steinhagen and Lichtenhagen near eachother? All help is good, Donnamarie In a message dated 4/15/2012 9:56:47 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, schwandt@shaw.ca writes: Where is this Steinhagen??? http://www.maplandia.com/germany/mecklenburg-vorpommern/mecklenburg-vorpomme rn/nordvorpommern/steinhagen/#map Is it part of Poland now? No. Eastern Germany. Does that make her Polish? No. Pommern was a province of Prussia. With regards. John Schwandt, Winnipeg. -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DonnamarieBoyer@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:21 PM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Steinhagen, Pommern I am new to the list. I am having much difficulty understanding areas. My great grandmother, Marie Vierk, was listed on the Hamburg Passenger list as listed below. _Hamburger Passagierlisten, 1850-1934 Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934_ (http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1068&enc=1) about Marie Vierk Name: Marie Vierk Departure Date: 24 Mrz 1886 (24 Mar 1886) Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Age Year: 14 Gender: weiblich (Female) Marital Status: ledig (Single) Family: _Household members_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?ti=0&r=an&db=HamburgPL_full&F52= &F12=Moravia&F48=Vierk&r ank=0) Residence: Steinhagen, Pommern Ship Name: Moravia Captain: Pezoldt Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft Ship Type: Dampfschiff Accommodation: Zwischendeck Ship Flag: Deutschland Port of Departure: Hamburg Port of Arrival: New York Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 056 A Page: 173 Microfilm Roll Number: K_1734 Residence in Steinhagen, Pommern. She is listed on another as German. Another Prussian. Where is this Steinhagen??? Is it part of Poland now?? Does that make her polish? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been researching the Koch (Cook-Stone) family, & have not been able to make a connection to Prussia, which they gave as place of birth in the 1861 in the Ontario census.I have read about church paid emigration, when the families where too poor to raise a family.They left Prussia about 1855.& Stated that their religion was Lutheran. Where would I find records on church paid emigration . Regards Sharon

Where is this Steinhagen??? http://www.maplandia.com/germany/mecklenburg-vorpommern/mecklenburg-vorpomme rn/nordvorpommern/steinhagen/#map Is it part of Poland now? No. Eastern Germany. Does that make her Polish? No. Pommern was a province of Prussia. With regards. John Schwandt, Winnipeg. -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DonnamarieBoyer@aol.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:21 PM To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Steinhagen, Pommern I am new to the list. I am having much difficulty understanding areas. My great grandmother, Marie Vierk, was listed on the Hamburg Passenger list as listed below. _Hamburger Passagierlisten, 1850-1934 Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934_ (http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1068&enc=1) about Marie Vierk Name: Marie Vierk Departure Date: 24 Mrz 1886 (24 Mar 1886) Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Age Year: 14 Gender: weiblich (Female) Marital Status: ledig (Single) Family: _Household members_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?ti=0&r=an&db=HamburgPL_full&F52= &F12=Moravia&F48=Vierk&r ank=0) Residence: Steinhagen, Pommern Ship Name: Moravia Captain: Pezoldt Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft Ship Type: Dampfschiff Accommodation: Zwischendeck Ship Flag: Deutschland Port of Departure: Hamburg Port of Arrival: New York Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 056 A Page: 173 Microfilm Roll Number: K_1734 Residence in Steinhagen, Pommern. She is listed on another as German. Another Prussian. Where is this Steinhagen??? Is it part of Poland now?? Does that make her polish?

During and after World War I it shouldn't be surprising that a German or his relatives declared him an Austrian. Many did not stop there, even changing German names to more Anglicized versions. Sauerkraut was called Liberty cabbage. Anti-German sentiment was widespread. Aaron ________________________________ From: Kitty <jewelrydolls@verizon.net> I have the same problem. When his little son died in the late 1880s, his father listed himself as German. Then in the 1880 census he listed himself as Prussian. Then in the 1920 census, his daughters listed him as Austrian. I can't understand this either. Kit

Kitty wrote: > I have the same problem. When his little son died in the late 1880s, his father listed himself as German. Then in the 1880 census he listed himself as Prussian. Then in the 1920 census, his daughters listed him as Austrian. I can't understand this either. As borders changed, the answers to census questions required different answers. The same village may have been in Austria in 1880 but in Prussia in 1910, and in Germany in 1930. Mona -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt@Sandyview.net Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser

My blog, http://aaronjhill.wordpress.com/, costs me nothing and helps me document my my research and connect with other researchers. http://aaronjhill.wordpress.com/category/germany/pomerania/ http://aaronjhill.wordpress.com/category/germany/   Aaron ________________________________ From: Joel Russell <joelsr@gmail.com> Having a website and/or blog is not expensive, it depends on what you want to put into it.  I started my site back in 1996 and use primarily basic html to build my pages....

Perhaps they did not want to identified as German. To this day I have encountered people who were born in Prussia who are offended by being described as German rather than Prussian. I will have to dig through my email to find a message one man sent me explaining his views. He wanted to be called a Prussian. Another theory is that perhaps before Saxe-Coburg, the family was from Prussia. I would also note that Saxe-Coburg may have been a part of the Kingdom of Prussia for a time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Prussia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map-DR-Prussia.svg Aaron ________________________________ From: Michael Maher <mjmjcm@gmail.com> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 15 April 2012, 13:23 Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Curious Just a curiousity... My ggrandparents listed their birthplace on the US census as "Prussia." However, after much research I have learned that they actually came from Saxe-Coburg, which was not part of Prussia.  Why would they do that (in the mid-1800s in Illinois)?  Nothing urgent but I am curious. Mike Jacksonville, FL [USA]

I have an interest in the area just west of Hannover. There are a lot of interesting little burgs and towns in that area. My main areas are Bünde & Dünne (Dünne is more of a neighborhood now) and further west there is Dissen. My Ernst Menke was a master blacksmith and then, in later life, a farmer. His church burial record (n.e. Iowa) says he was from Bünde. But I think I found him and a brother or cousin on the ship Friedrich Jacob going from Bremen to New Orleans in June of 1842. On that ship's list both Ernst Menke (25) and August Menke (28) say they are smiths and they are from Dissen. August Menke shows up on the 1856 Iowa state census living next door to Ernst. Heinrich Dietrich Rüter and his wife Sophia Charlotte (Menke) have a farm in the same area. I haven't been able to find the Rüter/Rueter/Reader family on any ship's lists as yet. In the familysearch.org online records I did find Sophia Charlotte Menke marrying Heinrich Dietrich Rüter 08 Oct 1836 at the Evangelical Lutheran Church at Bünde (I think this church was really the old one in Dünne itself). And I found Sophia Charlotte Menke (1809) and Clare Maria Mencke (1820) born to Ernst Henrich Mencke and Anne Catharine Marie Kammann, but I could not find either Ernst or August recorded in that church book for Bünde and Dünne. I am guessing that Ernst was born about 1811 in or near Dünne, but his baptism was not recorded in that church book. Then maybe he and his brother (or cousin), August, learned the blacksmith trade some how and worked in Dissen for awhile before immigrating. I am just speculating as to how this might have been, since I am having trouble locating too much in the way of actual records to prove it all out. August Menke did marry Louisa (?) before immigrating. They had at least one child, Gottlieb Menke (b. 26 Oct 1840), before sailing to the U.S. But I can not find Louisa and Gottlieb on any ship's lists yet. Maybe August and Louisa married in Dissen? I didn't find any mention of them in the Bünde/Dünne church book. Kammann seemed to have been a prominent name in the Bünde and Dünne area near Herford. But not so many Men(c)kes really. Most Menkes seem to be Catholic, but my line was Evangelical. Thanks for any research help, info, or tips for the small towns just west of Hannover. Kathy www.Kiva.org - loans that change lives. Change the world one loan at a time. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Rückling" <rueckling@gmx.de> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Hannover information > little error in my previous mail: > > The civil records of Hannover began on 01 Jan 1876 (not 1875). > > Stefan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joel S. Russell" <joelsr@gmail.com> > To: "Doreen Jackson" <dorich40@yahoo.com>; <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:20 PM > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Hannover information > > >> Doreen, >> >> I've done quite a bit of research in Hannover and >> Schaumburg-Lippe. I've had my best results from writing to the local >> church and requesting assistance. I send the letters in German and >> expect the reply in the same. In the majority of cases the Church >> has passed my letter on to a local resident who has an interest in >> local history. That person then responds to my request, sometimes in >> English, but most often in German. My roots are in fairly small >> towns or villages and the respondent is almost always related to me, >> if sometimes distantly. Perhaps I've just been fortunate. I would >> stress that you should write in German, find someone who knows the >> language well or find one of the pre-written letters available >> online. Do not rely on language translators, they mangle the >> translation and are imperfect. I find them useful when getting a >> response in German as I can get the gist of the letter, but I >> wouldn't use one to send the letter. >> >> Regarding your request being around 1875. ALmost all of my families >> came over in the 1840s and 50s, but I have found records of the >> families and descendants of siblings who remained in Germany as late >> as the early 1900s. Do you know the specific place your ancestor was >> from? Email me directly if you want to discuss this further. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Joel >> http://www.rafert.org/home >>

I am new to the list. I am having much difficulty understanding areas. My great grandmother, Marie Vierk, was listed on the Hamburg Passenger list as listed below. _Hamburger Passagierlisten, 1850-1934 Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934_ (http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1068&enc=1) about Marie Vierk Name: Marie Vierk Departure Date: 24 Mrz 1886 (24 Mar 1886) Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872 Age Year: 14 Gender: weiblich (Female) Marital Status: ledig (Single) Family: _Household members_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?ti=0&r=an&db=HamburgPL_full&F52=&F12=Moravia&F48=Vierk&r ank=0) Residence: Steinhagen, Pommern Ship Name: Moravia Captain: Pezoldt Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft Ship Type: Dampfschiff Accommodation: Zwischendeck Ship Flag: Deutschland Port of Departure: Hamburg Port of Arrival: New York Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 056 A Page: 173 Microfilm Roll Number: K_1734 Residence in Steinhagen, Pommern. She is listed on another as German. Another Prussian. Where is this Steinhagen??? Is it part of Poland now?? Does that make her polish? Her death certificate states by her husband that she was from Lichtenhagen. I am soooo confussed. Someone help me?? Donnamarie in NM

Hi Mike, I am just taking a guess, because every one knew about Prussia and or how to spell it. I don't think I have ever seen Saxe-Coburg on censuses. I have transcribed cenuses for familysearch and I have looked at many censuses at ancestry for my husbands' ancestors and also for other researchers. They give you a hint where they came from and nothing else. Following the census for one of my Scholzes where both spouses were from Austria, eventually one of them I believe it was the 1930 census ended up being German. Borders changed and in the end people may be didn't care anymore where they came from or they didn't want anybody to know where they really came from, who knows. So many immigrants left silently their old country and I believe they might have been afraid to be found. Yvonne in California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Maher" <mjmjcm@gmail.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 1:23 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Curious > Just a curiousity... > > My ggrandparents listed their birthplace on the US census as "Prussia." > However, after much research I have learned that they actually came from > Saxe-Coburg, which was not part of Prussia. Why would they do that (in > the > mid-1800s in Illinois)? Nothing urgent but I am curious. > > Mike > Jacksonville, FL [USA] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Doreen Let me give you a little background on the "Friedrichstrasse" in Hannover. This street runs about a half mile south of the centrum, being the Bahnhofstr. &  Georgstr. It is an east-west street running from about the Waterlooplatz, past the Neue Rathaus and with a little d og leg to the Hildesheimer Strasse. Along the route it also takes in the Reform Kirche, Archives, Kommandantur, Kestner Museum, the Stadt Bauamt, and a school. It was named after Herzog (Duke) Friedrich August of York, brother of king Ernst August. To find out where they were living, look in the city directories, some available from LDS and also at www.genealogienetz.de . You can find directories (Adressbuch) for many cities. hopefully you can find Hannover for the time period you need among them. If he worked as a superintendant of the Hannover Strassenbahn Aktiengesellschaft (Hannover Tram Co) , he c ould further be mentioned  in the section "Verkehr" under Strassenbahnen, most likely part 2 of the Verkehrs section. Now, as to Hannover being a port of debarkation, that is highly unlikely, as the only watertransportation would have been the Leine River (Not large enough to handle anything more than a medium tour boat) and the Mittelland Kanal, which was a main transportation route for materials. The main cities of debarkation would be Bremen, Bremerhaven, and Hamburg. Outside of those one can include Amsterdam, Rotterdam, and ports along the Channel. Ports that could handle traffic from Germany to England/Scottland and to US from there could include Emden, Kiel, Lübeck, but from Hannover the last two mentioned would have been very unlikely. It would be like going around the block to get next door. While living in Hannover and finding the church they may have attended, well, here we have some churches that are in the immedia te area, some still are. A possibilty would be to check the baptismal index for Hannover on film from LDS. Here you have to select by initial letter and time period. I can't remember how many years were included in the index on which I found my own baptism, as well as other family members, but the main item I found out the name of the church, as some of my cousins were bapiz ed in other churches. That index gives the date and place  of birth and baptism, parents names,  name of church, address. For the letter L from 1935-1947 the film number was 0536408  from LDS. Good Luck Guenter in Michigan   born in Hannover, lived there and the area neasr there for 13+ years ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doreen Jackson" <dorich40@yahoo.com> To: "Joel Russell" <joelsr@gmail.com> Cc: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 1:23:56 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Hannover Records Dear Joel, Many thanks for your informative reply.   Yes, another of the problems with Germany is the language.  I did know know of the existence of the "online" letters, perhaps I could use this method.   My family returned from England c1874 and to the best of my knowledge settled in Hannover. In 1885 they were living in, (from memory) Friedrichstrasse?  I have no idea which part of Hannover that might be located.  I understand that records are not all in a central place, for example, here in England we know most things are in The National Archives at Kew or in a County Record Office for a certain place name, not so in Germany, at least that is my understanding.   People have tried to help in the past but the only thing found was a confirmation that Oscar Dietrich, Head of the family, was a Superintendent with a Hannover Tram Company.  Where that confirmation was found I have no idea, but apparently no records of the company in question were available.  I further understand that the company in question was British owned and that Oscar Dietrich may have obtained that post before vacating the UK.   The family's presence in Germany in 1885 was shown via a Birth Certificate from a relative of the family who was visiting at the time of the birth of her son.    As I mentioned people have responded to requests in the past but with the limited resources at their disposal could not turn up anything concrete and I am nearly always referred to the Staadarchives in Hannover !!.   Therefore, if there is another way I could try to find any possible records on the family I would be more than pleased.   Doreen   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What were the other port of debarkation. I have a Michael Sinnet or Sinnot that I have been unable to find on the immigration sites. Maybe I could check the ports of debarkation it the are on the Internet. Sadly all I know is they are on the VA 1860 census. Do not know his date of arrival, religion, married or single, township or parish, etc. I do know in 1860 he had a wife Mary, a son Michael, 16 and a daughter Mary, 6. I would be interested in checking debarkation points. Thanks. Pat Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "Robert Lipprandt" <rloss@bellsouth.net> Sender: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:53:42 To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Hannover Records Just to add to the mix of Hannover/Hanover. It was in essence, a port of debarkation. Apparently, when an individual/family sought to leave, and there was no room on a ship, they had to live in Hannover/Hanover and wait for space. Not unlike today's flying 'standby.' I had one known relative that had to do this. His home of birth was Kletellen, Kries Niederung, Ost Preußen (East Prussia). Because he had to wait, his address on the passenger manifest said Hanover as the residence. Drove me stark crazy in the beginning until other factors became apparent! Also to add, Leipzig was a city in Sachsen (Saxony), not very close geographically to Hannover/Hanover. Unless I have been wrongly lead, Saxony was never part of Prussia and usually sided with those that did not see Prussia as the best in government and rule! Rollo Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Hannover Records Hi Doreen, I was late into the conversation so forgive me if I ask questions that you've already answered. *Friedrichstraße sounds like a street to me, is it perhaps part of their address instead of town?* * * *I'm in the U.S. and I've not worked with records in England, perhaps you can enlighten me some day. I have research to do there at some point. Did England require any kind of documentation to leave the country at that time? Some type of passport, something that might indicate where the family was moving to? * * * *You said he worked for a tram company, what is your definition of a tram? I *immediately* think of a tracked system, like a trolley car or street car, within a city. If that is the case then it narrows your search considerably as it would indicate a city, not just any village.* * * *Do you know what British company owned the tram company? If so, do they have any records?* * * Do you have a copy of the birth certificate you mentioned? I would think the place of birth would be mentioned and that should help narrow your search. As I mentioned in my early email I've dealt almost exclusively with German records prior to 1860 so my knowledge of available records in the latter part of the 19th Century is limited. I know Germany had a census every 5 years after 1875, but I'm not sure what details were included or how accessible they are. I'm afraid I've sent you more questions instead of answers. Joel http://www.rafert.org/home/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have the same problem. When his little son died in the late 1880s, his father listed himself as German. Then in the 1880 census he listed himself as Prussian. Then in the 1920 census, his daughters listed him as Austrian. I can't understand this either. Kit On Apr 15, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Aaron Hill wrote: > Perhaps they did not want to identified as German. To this day I have encountered people who were born in Prussia who are offended by being described as German rather than Prussian. I will have to dig through my email to find a message one man sent me explaining his views. He wanted to be called a Prussian. Another theory is that perhaps before Saxe-Coburg, the family was from Prussia. I would also note that Saxe-Coburg may have been a part of the Kingdom of Prussia for a time. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Prussia > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map-DR-Prussia.svg > > > Aaron > > > ________________________________ > From: Michael Maher <mjmjcm@gmail.com> > To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, 15 April 2012, 13:23 > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Curious > > Just a curiousity... > > My ggrandparents listed their birthplace on the US census as "Prussia." > However, after much research I have learned that they actually came from > Saxe-Coburg, which was not part of Prussia. Why would they do that (in the > mid-1800s in Illinois)? Nothing urgent but I am curious. > > Mike > Jacksonville, FL [USA] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Which census? Also the info was dependant on who gave the info, it might have been a neighbor, or how detailed the census taker was. Joel On Apr 15, 2012 4:25 PM, "Michael Maher" <mjmjcm@gmail.com> wrote: > Just a curiousity... > > My ggrandparents listed their birthplace on the US census as "Prussia." > However, after much research I have learned that they actually came from > Saxe-Coburg, which was not part of Prussia. Why would they do that (in the > mid-1800s in Illinois)? Nothing urgent but I am curious. > > Mike > Jacksonville, FL [USA] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just a curiousity... My ggrandparents listed their birthplace on the US census as "Prussia." However, after much research I have learned that they actually came from Saxe-Coburg, which was not part of Prussia. Why would they do that (in the mid-1800s in Illinois)? Nothing urgent but I am curious. Mike Jacksonville, FL [USA]

Linda, Thank you for the kinds words. Having a website and/or blog is not expensive, it depends on what you want to put into it. I started my site back in 1996 and use primarily basic html to build my pages. Some of the pages are built using genealogy programs, others in Word and others in plain text using wordpad. I dabble in different areas of genealogy so I've used various techniques over the years. I still prefer to use old Netscape Composer as I can see the results as I use it and it doesn't add all of the garbage that more modern 'web' software does. The story on my grandmother is almost all her. She and I became very close over the years and she shared a lot of stories with me. Joel http://www.rafert.org/home/ On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Linda Grinnell <fultimers@yahoo.com> wrote: > Joel, I took a look at your genealogy blog and loved reading your > stories--especially about your grandmother Alma. > > How difficult is it to have a genealogy website/blog? Is it very expensive? > > > Linda Grinnell > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Linda, Rootsweb.com makes free space available for genealogy sites. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~websites/ Or you can just post your tree (database) there. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ I prefer WorldConnect to some other on-line trees, because you have control over who and what gets posted and made public. There are several email discussion lists set up to help you if you have any problems in posting either your website or your tree. Having your information on-line is a wonderful way to connect to lots of cousins and extended relatives. I lost count long ago for the number of people who contacted me after seeing my information on line. Mona -- Mona Houser HeritageHunt@Sandyview.net Our Family -- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/ Nahausen Families – http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monajo/nah/ My Database – http://wc.rootsweb.com/~monahouser

This may help... http://www.progenealogists.com/germany/articles/gdepart.htm Allot would depended upon location, money to get you there and again, availability of slots on a ship.... many factors. Rollo >>>>>> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Hannover Records What were the other port of debarkation. I have a Michael Sinnet or Sinnot that I have been unable to find on the immigration sites. Maybe I could check the ports of debarkation it the are on the Internet. Sadly all I know is they are on the VA 1860 census. Do not know his date of arrival, religion, married or single, township or parish, etc. I do know in 1860 he had a wife Mary, a son Michael, 16 and a daughter Mary, 6. I would be interested in checking debarkation points. Thanks. Pat Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Hannover Records Just to add to the mix of Hannover/Hanover. It was in essence, a port of debarkation. Apparently, when an individual/family sought to leave, and there was no room on a ship, they had to live in Hannover/Hanover and wait for space. Not unlike today's flying 'standby.' I had one known relative that had to do this. His home of birth was Kletellen, Kries Niederung, Ost Preußen (East Prussia). Because he had to wait, his address on the passenger manifest said Hanover as the residence. Drove me stark crazy in the beginning until other factors became apparent! Also to add, Leipzig was a city in Sachsen (Saxony), not very close geographically to Hannover/Hanover. Unless I have been wrongly lead, Saxony was never part of Prussia and usually sided with those that did not see Prussia as the best in government and rule! Rollo Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Hannover Records Hi Doreen, I was late into the conversation so forgive me if I ask questions that you've already answered. *Friedrichstraße sounds like a street to me, is it perhaps part of their address instead of town?* * * *I'm in the U.S. and I've not worked with records in England, perhaps you can enlighten me some day. I have research to do there at some point. Did England require any kind of documentation to leave the country at that time? Some type of passport, something that might indicate where the family was moving to? * * * *You said he worked for a tram company, what is your definition of a tram? I *immediately* think of a tracked system, like a trolley car or street car, within a city. If that is the case then it narrows your search considerably as it would indicate a city, not just any village.* * * *Do you know what British company owned the tram company? If so, do they have any records?* * * Do you have a copy of the birth certificate you mentioned? I would think the place of birth would be mentioned and that should help narrow your search. As I mentioned in my early email I've dealt almost exclusively with German records prior to 1860 so my knowledge of available records in the latter part of the 19th Century is limited. I know Germany had a census every 5 years after 1875, but I'm not sure what details were included or how accessible they are. I'm afraid I've sent you more questions instead of answers. Joel http://www.rafert.org/home/

Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Hannover Records What were the other port of debarkation. I have a Michael Sinnet or Sinnot that I have been unable to find on the immigration sites. Maybe I could check the ports of debarkation it the are on the Internet. Sadly all I know is they are on the VA 1860 census. Do not know his date of arrival, religion, married or single, township or parish, etc. I do know in 1860 he had a wife Mary, a son Michael, 16 and a daughter Mary, 6. I would be interested in checking debarkation points. Thanks. Pat Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: "Robert Lipprandt" <rloss@bellsouth.net> Sender: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 09:53:42 To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Reply-To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Hannover Records Just to add to the mix of Hannover/Hanover. It was in essence, a port of debarkation. Apparently, when an individual/family sought to leave, and there was no room on a ship, they had to live in Hannover/Hanover and wait for space. Not unlike today's flying 'standby.' I had one known relative that had to do this. His home of birth was Kletellen, Kries Niederung, Ost Preußen (East Prussia). Because he had to wait, his address on the passenger manifest said Hanover as the residence. Drove me stark crazy in the beginning until other factors became apparent! Also to add, Leipzig was a city in Sachsen (Saxony), not very close geographically to Hannover/Hanover. Unless I have been wrongly lead, Saxony was never part of Prussia and usually sided with those that did not see Prussia as the best in government and rule! Rollo Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Hannover Records Hi Doreen, I was late into the conversation so forgive me if I ask questions that you've already answered. *Friedrichstraße sounds like a street to me, is it perhaps part of their address instead of town?* * * *I'm in the U.S. and I've not worked with records in England, perhaps you can enlighten me some day. I have research to do there at some point. Did England require any kind of documentation to leave the country at that time? Some type of passport, something that might indicate where the family was moving to? * * * *You said he worked for a tram company, what is your definition of a tram? I *immediately* think of a tracked system, like a trolley car or street car, within a city. If that is the case then it narrows your search considerably as it would indicate a city, not just any village.* * * *Do you know what British company owned the tram company? If so, do they have any records?* * * Do you have a copy of the birth certificate you mentioned? I would think the place of birth would be mentioned and that should help narrow your search. As I mentioned in my early email I've dealt almost exclusively with German records prior to 1860 so my knowledge of available records in the latter part of the 19th Century is limited. I know Germany had a census every 5 years after 1875, but I'm not sure what details were included or how accessible they are. I'm afraid I've sent you more questions instead of answers. Joel http://www.rafert.org/home/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message