Bette This is online about the name German name of Walter WALTHER Gender: Masculine Usage: German Pronounced: VAHL-ter [key] German form of WALTER. This name was borne by German chemist Walther Nerst, winner of the Nobel prize for his discovery of the third law of thermodynamics. ====================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bette McIntosh" <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] given name "Walter" in German? > Good, thank you Judy, knowing this may hopefully make some difference in my > search efforts. > Bette > > > That would be Werther, as in The Sorrow of Young Werther. > > Judy > > >> What is the German given (Christian) name that is equivalent to the > >> English given name Walter?>> > >> A 'Google' search engine search has produced "Walther" and possibly > >> "Waldhar". Would this be correct? > >> Thank you, > >> Bette > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good, thank you Judy, knowing this may hopefully make some difference in my search efforts. Bette > That would be Werther, as in The Sorrow of Young Werther. > Judy >> What is the German given (Christian) name that is equivalent to the >> English given name Walter?>> >> A 'Google' search engine search has produced "Walther" and possibly >> "Waldhar". Would this be correct? >> Thank you, >> Bette

That would be Werther, as in The Sorrow of Young Werther. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bette McIntosh" <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:42 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] given name "Walter" in German? > Dear List Members, > > What is the German given (Christian) name that is equivalent to the > English given name Walter? > > A 'Google' search engine search has produced "Walther" and possibly > "Waldhar". Would this be correct? > > Thank you, > Bette > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: 3/30/2007 > 1:15 PM > >

"Googling" what you're looking for, the first hit return took me to a site where "Walther," as you stated, is the equivalent of the English "Walter" in German. There were several other hits for places you could check. Additionally, did you check Cyndi's List in the Germany section? She has a couple of web sites to review on this subject as well as a e-mail list where you could submit the query. Good luck, LGO -----Original Message----- >From: Bette McIntosh <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> >Sent: Mar 30, 2007 11:42 AM >To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com >Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] given name "Walter" in German? > >Dear List Members, > >What is the German given (Christian) name that is equivalent to the English given name Walter? > >A 'Google' search engine search has produced "Walther" and possibly "Waldhar". Would this be correct? > >Thank you, >Bette > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List Members, What is the German given (Christian) name that is equivalent to the English given name Walter? A 'Google' search engine search has produced "Walther" and possibly "Waldhar". Would this be correct? Thank you, Bette

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Susan I could not find any FHC film records online However Check out http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp or http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ or http://www.surnamenavigator.org/ Just fill out the blanks , and click " search " , or " go " Karl Roussin ===================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: <sansu4023@aol.com> To: <Prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:56 AM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] THODE and EINSTEIN families > My John Jacob THODE married Marie EINSTEIN sometime after 1820. They were born about 1795-1805. As far as I can tell, Marie was born about 1803. No idea of location, but know that two children, Edward and Augustus, were born near Otterndorf, S.H. Germany. They had another brother Henry who also came to the US. Son Carl has no info, and I believe he died as child in Germany. John Jacob died in Germany. Marie came to US to be with sons Edward and Augustus in Jo Daviess County, Ill. Henry was in NY City at least until near 1900. Believe other siblings were Caroline, Katherine, and another sister whose name I am not sure of. What church records would I look for to hunt for them in S. H.? > > Thank you in advance for any information. > Susan > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Karen, Thank you for your very informative & concise reply. I am trying to obtain information re my ancestor who emigrated from the general area of Goldlauter/Heidersbach/Suhl, Prussian Saxony to the USA ca. 1865. Given the prevalence of the surname, WEISS, it has proven to be a challenging task. Your insights are a great help to me. Bette

Bette, The Heimatscheine came into use when a citizen moved from one town to another. It recorded when and where he was going, etc. and is similar to what are called "police registers" at the Citizen Registry Office. If moving to another town, he was to go to the town office and tell them where he was going and on what date. This was sort of a "discharge or transfer paper" from his old town to the new town. When he arrived in the new town, he was to register in the citizens' office there. This was different from the emigration or "Auswanderung" process. In the emigration papers, one gave up his rights as citizen of his state. In the "Heimatscheine", one gave up his citizenship in one town for citizenship in another and therefore made a record of his move. If you are looking for emigration information, your best bet would be to look at the Auswanderungsgesuche films. I doubt the Heimatscheine record would contain any emigration data, although the ancestor may have moved around from town to town before finally emigrating years later. Keep in mind that different names were sometimes given to the same type of record and only in studying the actual record can one determine exactly what information is contained there. Sorry I'm not familiar with Erfurt's records to say what you will find there. I do not know if they contain indexes or would be easy to use, but maybe someone else can offer more insight. Still, if these records exist, it might be worthwhile to take a look to see what they might contain for your ancestral surname, at least.... We are sometimes more familiar with police registers ("Polizeiregister") etc. which began in the 1850s and replaced the burgher books in an effort to record movements of the population. The emigration records were to keep track of those who intended to permanently leave the state. Karen B. Whitmer ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

My John Jacob THODE married Marie EINSTEIN sometime after 1820. They were born about 1795-1805. As far as I can tell, Marie was born about 1803. No idea of location, but know that two children, Edward and Augustus, were born near Otterndorf, S.H. Germany. They had another brother Henry who also came to the US. Son Carl has no info, and I believe he died as child in Germany. John Jacob died in Germany. Marie came to US to be with sons Edward and Augustus in Jo Daviess County, Ill. Henry was in NY City at least until near 1900. Believe other siblings were Caroline, Katherine, and another sister whose name I am not sure of. What church records would I look for to hunt for them in S. H.? Thank you in advance for any information. Susan ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Anyone out there researching either of these surnames, they are very unusual. KEISEL (Keissel) - Peter Keisel b. 1808 married Catherine Clovak (?) b. 1808 ... Three children Catherine, Magdlena & Jacob. Came to America settled in Louisiana and Mississippi. WEISHEIMER (Weishimer) - Mathius b. 1816 married Catherine (1) and Hanna Frederika Hoffmann Johnston in 1864 in New Orleans, LA. Anyone out there researching either of these brick walls? Thanks. Tami Johnston New Orleans, LA --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.

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Herb I thought that I had sent that e-mail address to You. If it did not go thru here it is again Evangelischen Zentralarchiv in Berlin Bethaniendamm 29 10997 Berlin 030 / 22 50 45 36 kirchenbuchstelle@ezab.de Karl Roussin ====================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert Teske" <herb29@sbcglobal.net> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Grossziethen, Germany > Thanks, Arnold. I found that there are two addresses for EZA in Berlin, the one at Jebenstrasse 3 and the other at Bethaniendamm 29. It can be confusing at times. > > Herb > > ARoss14573@aol.com wrote: > Herb, > Here is the e-mail address for EZA in Berlin - _archiv@ezab.de_ > (mailto:archiv@ezab.de) > > Address: Evangelisches Zentralarchiv > Bethaniendamm 29 > 10997 Berlin > Phone: 030 / 22 50 45 20 > > Hope to visit there sometime between May 23 and June 21st. > > Arnold Ross > > aross14573@aol.com > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List members, In my efforts to obtain emigration information regarding my ancestor, I have found a series of LDS/FHL films which deal with the emigration applications, lists, certificates for Erfurt, Sachsen, Prussia. In addition to the films entitled "Auswanderungsgesuche" (requests for emigration) there is another set of films entitled "Heimatscheine" (certificates of citizenship) . Can someone please tell me when a person would be granted a Heimatscheine" (certificate of citizenship). Would this certificate be applied for & granted on the eve of a person's departure/leave or would it be granted at some earlier date. Knowing the answer to this question would help me determine the appropriate "Heimatscheine" film to order from the Mormon Family History Library in Utah. Thank you, Bette

Thanks, Karl, for the heads up. I appreciate your help very much. Herb Karl Roussin <kroussin@fidnet.com> wrote: Herb I thought that I had sent that e-mail address to You. If it did not go thru here it is again Evangelischen Zentralarchiv in Berlin Bethaniendamm 29 10997 Berlin 030 / 22 50 45 36 kirchenbuchstelle@ezab.de Karl Roussin ====================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert Teske" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Grossziethen, Germany > Thanks, Arnold. I found that there are two addresses for EZA in Berlin, the one at Jebenstrasse 3 and the other at Bethaniendamm 29. It can be confusing at times. > > Herb > > ARoss14573@aol.com wrote: > Herb, > Here is the e-mail address for EZA in Berlin - _archiv@ezab.de_ > (mailto:archiv@ezab.de) > > Address: Evangelisches Zentralarchiv > Bethaniendamm 29 > 10997 Berlin > Phone: 030 / 22 50 45 20 > > Hope to visit there sometime between May 23 and June 21st. > > Arnold Ross > > aross14573@aol.com > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Columbia Gazetteer: under "Mayence, Germany see "Mainz". There is a lenghly article that starts "Mainz or Mayence, city ...." This is an older gazetteer which is great for finding older towns, especially those that no longer exist. Check your local library. BonnieM wrote: >Karen, > > Actually, in digging around, I did find an old map. At one point, Mainz >was in Prussia, although barely. The timing was right. > You're the second to mention Mayen (and I did see it on the map while >searching.) So I may check that out as well. > The IGI gave two Krempel marriages in Mainz, one well after mine left, >one of a Francis KREMPEL who married in 1783. My Francis KREMPEL was born in >1810 so who knows, perhaps this other Francis was related. It gives me a >starting place. > The Mayence was quite clear on the certificate, so in this case, there >was no problem reading it (as can be the case sometimes.) > I don't know from where Anna Mary originated. I assume they married in >Germany, but am not sure, as the first child was listed as being born in the >U.S. (I don't have the exact place other than "Pennyslvania", so don't have >the baptism.) > Thanks for the suggestions. It's nice to have a place in which to look, >after 25 years of just "Prussia". > >Bonz > >-----Original Message----- >From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com >[mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of WhitmerJ@aol.com >Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 11:38 AM >To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Mayence place name question and KREMPEL > >Bon in South Florida, > >You are right, Mayence/Mainz was never in Prussia. However, is there a >possibility that the name might be "Mayen?" Mayen is west of Koblenz and >was in >Prussia. Is the name clearly written in the death record you mention or >could >it even be something else? I don't find any other places named Mayence in >my old German town indexes. > >Mayen would have been in Kreis Mayen, in the Rhine Province of Prussia. >Mayence/Mainz was in the Rheinhessen district, province of Hesse-Darmstadt >and never part of Prussia. Interesting, though, is that Mainz was just >across the Rhein river from Prussia (see Wiesbaden, etc.) in the 1800s. It >might be helpful to know if the Family History Library's IGI indicates if >the KREMPEL surname appeared in Kreis Mayen, Rhineland or in the Prussian >area across from Mainz. > >It seems use of the word "Prussia" in the various census records you >mentioned is significant. You didn't say if the couple was married in >Germany, but do you know where Anna Mary originated? Might be a clue >there.... > >Karen B. Whitmer > > > >************************************** AOL now offers free email to >everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.17/730 - Release Date: 3/22/2007 >7:44 AM > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Herb, Here is the e-mail address for EZA in Berlin - _archiv@ezab.de_ (mailto:archiv@ezab.de) Address: Evangelisches Zentralarchiv Bethaniendamm 29 10997 Berlin Phone: 030 / 22 50 45 20 Hope to visit there sometime between May 23 and June 21st. Arnold Ross aross14573@aol.com ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Thanks, Arnold. I found that there are two addresses for EZA in Berlin, the one at Jebenstrasse 3 and the other at Bethaniendamm 29. It can be confusing at times. Herb ARoss14573@aol.com wrote: Herb, Here is the e-mail address for EZA in Berlin - _archiv@ezab.de_ (mailto:archiv@ezab.de) Address: Evangelisches Zentralarchiv Bethaniendamm 29 10997 Berlin Phone: 030 / 22 50 45 20 Hope to visit there sometime between May 23 and June 21st. Arnold Ross aross14573@aol.com ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

-----Original Message----- >From: Herbert Teske <herb29@sbcglobal.net> > >Does anyone have the correct address of the Zentralarchiv in Berlin... >and does anyone have an email address for the Zentralarchiv in Berlin? > Herb, Why don't you try Googling it? You'd be amazed what Google can find for you. And, you are allowed to do this yourself. LGO

Does anyone have the correct address of the Zentralarchiv in Berlin...and does anyone have an email address for the Zentralarchiv in Berlin? Herb Teske John D Bentz <jdbentz@prodigy.net> wrote: The Zentralarchiv is on longer on Jebenstrasse St....I hope they left a forwarding address. Actually I've seen the German postoffice due some fantastic things in delivering mail....so a letter to the old address will probably get through. jdbentz@prodigy.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message