Cheryl You may find records online. Check out http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp or http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ or http://www.surnamenavigator.org/ Just fill out the blanks , and click " search " , or " go " If the records are not entered , then You may have to order some films , of that town, of that time , from the FHC library Karl Roussin ================================ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Radical351@aol.com> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 7:23 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] looking for a website on church records in prussia > Can someone tell me where I can go to find church records in prussia > thank you > Cheryl > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can someone tell me where I can go to find church records in prussia thank you Cheryl ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Maybe this is over-simplifying a bit, but if you take the word "protestant" apart, such as in "protest", and add "ant" as a suffix, the whole thing becomes sort of self-explanatory. Sheila K. -------------- Original message from "Elaine O'Neill" <elaineoneill1948@gmail.com>: -------------- > I think the simplest explanation is that "Protestant" is an umbrella > term that encompasses Christian religions that are not Catholic or > Orthodox. It's like saying all chairs have 4 legs, but not every > thing with 4 legs is a chair. All Lutherans are Protestant, but not > all Protestants are Lutheran. > > Just my .02. > > On 6/13/07, Angela Knutson wrote: > > That was interesting! Thank you for the information. A lady I know from > > England was offended when I called one of the churches over there Luthern. > > She said it was Protestant, not Luthern. That's where I got the idea that > > Protestant was not relelated to Luthern. > > Angie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 6/13/2007 5:09:34 PM Central Daylight Time, raluke@gmail.com writes: Please stop. This is a wonderful genealogy list. I am a life-long practicing Catholic and I would like for the topic to return to genealogy. I agree ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I'm a little confused, how did my name get on this email?  The only sentence I wrote was the last one!!! Brigitte -----Original Message----- From: Cecelia <cheinric@suddenlink.net> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 5:20 pm Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Looking for Ancestors in Church Records I've been , and studied, them quite a bit in my lifetime. I was raised in a Methodist-Episcopal church, that was pretty formal. reat-grandparents from Prussia to Texas were Lutheran, but went to the piscopalian church when the Lutheran church burned. Some of their children emained in the Episcopalian church, but, the ones who had children, joined he Methodist church. hen, when I married, I joined the Lutheran church because my husband nsisted he was Lutheran. Turned out he had never been to any church. His arents were Catholic, and lived way out in the country. When his mother anted my husband to be christened, she had a ride to the Lutheran church, ut not to the Catholic Church. So, that's where he was christened and the nly time he ever went to a church. I went through all that studying to ecome Lutheran, then found out later! After the divorce, the new Lutheran inister came to me and told me to not come back to his church. I didn't ave a job, and they wanted my ex to come as he would be giving money to the hurch, and I couldn't. I had to drag the man to church to make him go, so don't know how that worked out. I am still astonished by that incident. fter that, every time I went into a Lutheran church, I became physically ll and had to leave. hen, I became interested in the Catholic church, so I studied that and onverted. I had been interested for a while as I liked services that were ormal and mysterious and beautiful, classical music. I was disappointed in ll the changes that made it more like the Lutheran church and the ethodist-Episcopal church. fter my son was killed, I moved in with my parents, where there was no atholic church. So, I ended up going back to the Methodist church. ow that should really fool future researchers! My children and I are in so any different church records across Texas! found very little difference in the Lutheran and Methodist-Episcopal hurches. The only difference I noticed was that the Luterhans would kneel nd Methodists don't. There were many similarities in both churches to the atholic church, as well. 'm sure that ancestors in other countries didn't move around and change ives like I have, but I would imagine that some did. That might help some eople as they search. Be open to various possibilities. ecelia in Texas > GOSH - I almost hate to get involved here - but think some explanations are due. > Thru the years the Lutheran church has changed - just as have many of the other churches. Some for the better, some for the worst. ELCA - EVANGELICAL LUTHERAN CHURCH OF AMERICA - is just one type of Lutheran Church and probably least like the Catholic church. There are many different Lutheran churches, Wisconsin Lutheran Church, Lutheran Church Missouri Synod - American Lutheran Church - and these are just in the US - other countries have their own - just like there are many different Baptist and Methodist churches. ELCA is just one type of Lutheran church. > > chances are if you have Lutherans in your family, you probably have Catholics also. Many of the more traditional Lutherans are more comfortable in a Catholic church than in many of our more modern denominations. just my thoughts - only been Lutheran for half a century. Don't be surprised to find both Catholic and Lutherans in your family. Be safe and look at both! Brigitte ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

In reply to: Duff.....not a common name. John --------------------------- It is if you come from Scotland. [# Duff, King of Scots (d. 967) ancestor of the Earls of Fife: see Wikipedia: DUFF surname] Regards David [An Englishman exiled in Fife, Scotland] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 17:10

I hesitate to correct a correction, Susan, since, as soon of one of us listers goes away from family history to an off-topic subject, a whole string of messages results. A much more accurate definition of all these variants of the Christian religion can best be found elsewhere on the Internet [Wikipedia being a good start]. However, I have to mention that Methodism and other forms of Protestantism - in its broadest definition - do not merge towards Lutheranism, as you suggest. It is perhaps closer to Dutch Calvinism in its Presbyterian-style management - and yes, one might call John Wesley, the founder of Methodism, an evangelist. This latter classification is, however, different from being a member of a Lutheran or an Evangelical Church - each of which has its own definitions depending upon too many individual beliefs and variables to discuss on this Prussia FH message board. And this is probably already more than I should have said, so . . . back to FH. Yours respectfully David -----Original Message----- From: prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:prussia-roots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of SV Sent: 13 June 2007 04:35 To: PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Luther started the Protestant Reformation! . . . Methodists and other churches may also be Protestants, but they followed Lutherans in time. susan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 17:10 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.13/844 - Release Date: 11/06/2007 17:10

> he wanted to start his own church, but if there is any question at all about > his feelings towards Catholicism later in his life, he was VERY > anti-catholic, calling them the whore of Babylon, etc. He was totally > against anyone being a pope, etc. Susan: Please stop. This is a wonderful genealogy list. I am a life-long practicing Catholic and I would like for the topic to return to genealogy. -Robert

All the recent emails regarding Kashubian Poles has reminded me that Kashubians figure quite prominently (if my memory serves) in the wonderful novel, Tin Drum, by Gunther Grass. Maria G.

Larry's right.  Some people though, do need explanations if they are not raised in these faiths, to better understand what they are looking for and where.  Hopefully we have helped them in this manner.  Good hunting to all, Brigitte -----Original Message----- From: Larry Krull <silverjox@sunflower.com> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 3:16 pm Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] (no subject) > YOU RECKON WE CAN GET BACK TO GENEALOGY INSTEAD OF SLAMMING EACH OTHER ABOUT ELIGION? THIS HAS, AND WILL, GO ON FOREVER. How did you get the implication that I said the other Protestant denominations merged TOWARDS Lutheranism? They didn't exist!!!!!!!!!!!! I said Luther started the first Protestant denomination, and he did. It was followed soon after by Calvin. Perhaps re-read my letter, there was nothing incorrect in it. The other Protestant denominations branched off on their own. Luther started the Protestant Reformation, I think that is clear enough. Some just like to correct, but I'm a student of history, and apparently you didn't even read what I wrote. I hardly need wikipedia, I have studied Christian history in depth. There are lots of other sites where you can research this, you might try something more indepth than wikipedia when you are looking something up. I have known the history of the church since a young child, and later studied Christian history in depth like I said. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message -- Drive to Arrive Alive" Larry Krull idwest Driving School 785)841-7749 785)760-1879 ww.midwestdrivingschool.com ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

I forgot to mention that the original German Lutheran church is not much like the present day Evangelistic Lutheran Church of America (ELCA).  They were much more strict and quite honestly, much more like Catholicism without some of the things on Luther's 95th thesis.  Hope that helps those looking in church records for their ancestors.  Don't be surprised to find both Catholic and Lutherans in your family.  Be safe and look at both! Brigitte -----Original Message----- From: Ric Gordon <gordonfinder@sbcglobal.net> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 2:54 pm Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Luther started the Protestant Reformation! Luther didn't start the Luheran church. He was trying to change how the atholic church was doing things, but never started a separate church himself. n his name, the Lutheran church was started in Germany. ----- Original Message ----- From: Angela Knutson To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Luther started the Protestant Reformation! That was interesting! Thank you for the information. A lady I know from England was offended when I called one of the churches over there Luthern. She said it was Protestant, not Luthern. That's where I got the idea that Protestant was not relelated to Luthern. Angie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol M. Duff" <duffc@redwing.net> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Luther started the Protestant Reformation! > And Evangelisch is different from Lutheran, more like the Reformed > churches. I have a taped in record in one of my church records that said > a Lutheran pastor refused to baptise a child of Evangelisch parents > until they threatened to take the child back to their home community to > be baptised. Father was doing masonery repair on the Lutheran Church. Carol > > SV wrote: > > >Angie, sorry to correct you, but Martin Luther was the first Protestant and > >started the Protestant Reformation. Most churches that aren't Catholic are > >often called Protestant, but the Lutheran church was the first Protestant > >church. Martin Luther was the first to put the Bible into the language of > >the German people, and this also helped standardize the language, which > >often varied village to village. The Latin Bible was often chained to the > >pulpit at that time in the Catholic church. He didn't believe that we needed > >a priest to interpret the Bible for us, but that it should be in the hands > >of the people, and that the Holy Spirit would guide them. > > > > > > > >Luther is the one that is famous for saying Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, and > >Sola Gratia. That means faith alone, Bible alone and God's grace alone. > >Methodists and other churches may also be Protestants, but they followed > >Lutherans in time. He knew we couldn't get to heaven by doing works, and he > >detested the selling of indulgences. You can read a lot that he wrote > >online. Galatians was his favorite book of the Bible (I used to think it was > >Romans), and he wrote a huge commentary on it. He also wrote hymns such as > >"A Mighty Fortress", or as it is called in German, "Ein Feste Burg ist Unser > >Gott". > > > > > > > >susan > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

HI Susan You are mainly correct except that Luther did not wish to start the Protestant movement!  He simply wished the Catholic church to make some changes that they actually did just a few years ago, finally.  Luther was ousted from the Catholic church for his 95 thesis, NOT for starting a new religion.  This was never his intent and Lutherans were only known as such after his death. Germans during this time period after Luther were either Lutheran (Evangelisch) or Catholic.  Methodists, Presbyterians and all the others came later.  My parents were married in 1960 in Germany and were considered a "mixed marriage".  My father is Lutheran and my mother is Catholic.  If you are doing research before the 18th or 19th century, you many consider your ancestors to be either of the two to narrow it down. A former Lutheran Christian Education Director who was raised Catholic, Brigitte -----Original Message----- From: SV <davesusanv@hotmail.com> To: PRUSSIA-ROOTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:35 pm Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Luther started the Protestant Reformation! Angie, sorry to correct you, but Martin Luther was the first Protestant and tarted the Protestant Reformation. Most churches that aren't Catholic are ften called Protestant, but the Lutheran church was the first Protestant hurch. Martin Luther was the first to put the Bible into the language of he German people, and this also helped standardize the language, which ften varied village to village. The Latin Bible was often chained to the ulpit at that time in the Catholic church. He didn't believe that we needed priest to interpret the Bible for us, but that it should be in the hands f the people, and that the Holy Spirit would guide them. Luther is the one that is famous for saying Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, and ola Gratia. That means faith alone, Bible alone and God's grace alone. ethodists and other churches may also be Protestants, but they followed utherans in time. He knew we couldn't get to heaven by doing works, and he etested the selling of indulgences. You can read a lot that he wrote nline. Galatians was his favorite book of the Bible (I used to think it was omans), and he wrote a huge commentary on it. He also wrote hymns such as A Mighty Fortress", or as it is called in German, "Ein Feste Burg ist Unser ott". susan ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

What is the best source in finding out if my ancestors were in the Prussian army? I know there are Prussian Army Rolls on microfilm through the LDS, but has anything been indexed or cataloged over the past several years?

Yes, this discussion is sounding like an argument! Susan, you were correct, but I think you were misunderstood by one or two people when you said "they followed Lutherans in time". They thought you meant the other religions "followed" (believed like) the Lutherans instead of "followed"/developed later in time.

All of that is true. I'm Lutheran and we have Catholic friends and family. ----- Original Message ----- From: tropishells@aol.com To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Luther started the Protestant Reformation! I forgot to mention that the original German Lutheran church is not much like the present day Evangelistic Lutheran Church of America (ELCA). They were much more strict and quite honestly, much more like Catholicism without some of the things on Luther's 95th thesis. Hope that helps those looking in church records for their ancestors. Don't be surprised to find both Catholic and Lutherans in your family. Be safe and look at both! Brigitte -----Original Message----- From: Ric Gordon <gordonfinder@sbcglobal.net> To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 2:54 pm Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Luther started the Protestant Reformation! Luther didn't start the Luheran church. He was trying to change how the atholic church was doing things, but never started a separate church himself. n his name, the Lutheran church was started in Germany. ----- Original Message ----- From: Angela Knutson To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Luther started the Protestant Reformation! That was interesting! Thank you for the information. A lady I know from England was offended when I called one of the churches over there Luthern. She said it was Protestant, not Luthern. That's where I got the idea that Protestant was not relelated to Luthern. Angie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol M. Duff" <duffc@redwing.net> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Luther started the Protestant Reformation! > And Evangelisch is different from Lutheran, more like the Reformed > churches. I have a taped in record in one of my church records that said > a Lutheran pastor refused to baptise a child of Evangelisch parents > until they threatened to take the child back to their home community to > be baptised. Father was doing masonery repair on the Lutheran Church. Carol > > SV wrote: > > >Angie, sorry to correct you, but Martin Luther was the first Protestant and > >started the Protestant Reformation. Most churches that aren't Catholic are > >often called Protestant, but the Lutheran church was the first Protestant > >church. Martin Luther was the first to put the Bible into the language of > >the German people, and this also helped standardize the language, which > >often varied village to village. The Latin Bible was often chained to the > >pulpit at that time in the Catholic church. He didn't believe that we needed > >a priest to interpret the Bible for us, but that it should be in the hands > >of the people, and that the Holy Spirit would guide them. > > > > > > > >Luther is the one that is famous for saying Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, and > >Sola Gratia. That means faith alone, Bible alone and God's grace alone. > >Methodists and other churches may also be Protestants, but they followed > >Lutherans in time. He knew we couldn't get to heaven by doing works, and he > >detested the selling of indulgences. You can read a lot that he wrote > >online. Galatians was his favorite book of the Bible (I used to think it was > >Romans), and he wrote a huge commentary on it. He also wrote hymns such as > >"A Mighty Fortress", or as it is called in German, "Ein Feste Burg ist Unser > >Gott". > > > > > > > >susan > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> JUST QUIT REPLYING ALL TOGETHER, OK? > > I didn't even compare Methodists to Lutherans, I simply said they are another protestant denomination. Would you like to discuss Calvinism and compare it to Luther's "Bondage of the Will"? I said most other churches that aren't Catholic are Protestant, understand? I listed Methodists as an example of a Protestant denomination, not saying it was close to Lutheran or anything else. Read something before responding please. I don't feel like naming every Protestant denomination and placing them in order of how close they are or not. I SIMPLY said that Luther started the Protestant Reformation, he was the first. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "Drive to Arrive Alive" Larry Krull Midwest Driving School (785)841-7749 (785)760-1879 www.midwestdrivingschool.com

> YOU RECKON WE CAN GET BACK TO GENEALOGY INSTEAD OF SLAMMING EACH OTHER ABOUT RELIGION? THIS HAS, AND WILL, GO ON FOREVER. > > How did you get the implication that I said the other Protestant denominations merged TOWARDS Lutheranism? They didn't exist!!!!!!!!!!!! I said Luther started the first Protestant denomination, and he did. It was followed soon after by Calvin. Perhaps re-read my letter, there was nothing incorrect in it. The other Protestant denominations branched off on their own. Luther started the Protestant Reformation, I think that is clear enough. Some just like to correct, but I'm a student of history, and apparently you didn't even read what I wrote. I hardly need wikipedia, I have studied Christian history in depth. There are lots of other sites where you can research this, you might try something more indepth than wikipedia when you are looking something up. I have known the history of the church since a young child, and later studied Christian history in depth like I said. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "Drive to Arrive Alive" Larry Krull Midwest Driving School (785)841-7749 (785)760-1879 www.midwestdrivingschool.com

> ELAINE. THAT'S A GREAT EXPLANATION. EASY TO UNDERSTAND, I HOPE. > > I think the simplest explanation is that "Protestant" is an umbrella term that encompasses Christian religions that are not Catholic or Orthodox. It's like saying all chairs have 4 legs, but not every thing with 4 legs is a chair. All Lutherans are Protestant, but not all Protestants are Lutheran. Just my .02. On 6/13/07, Angela Knutson <angie2@athena.net> wrote: > That was interesting! Thank you for the information. A lady I know from > England was offended when I called one of the churches over there Luthern. > She said it was Protestant, not Luthern. That's where I got the idea that > Protestant was not relelated to Luthern. > Angie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "Drive to Arrive Alive" Larry Krull Midwest Driving School (785)841-7749 (785)760-1879 www.midwestdrivingschool.com

Luther didn't start the Luheran church. He was trying to change how the Catholic church was doing things, but never started a separate church himself. In his name, the Lutheran church was started in Germany. ----- Original Message ----- From: Angela Knutson To: prussia-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Luther started the Protestant Reformation! That was interesting! Thank you for the information. A lady I know from England was offended when I called one of the churches over there Luthern. She said it was Protestant, not Luthern. That's where I got the idea that Protestant was not relelated to Luthern. Angie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol M. Duff" <duffc@redwing.net> To: <prussia-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Luther started the Protestant Reformation! > And Evangelisch is different from Lutheran, more like the Reformed > churches. I have a taped in record in one of my church records that said > a Lutheran pastor refused to baptise a child of Evangelisch parents > until they threatened to take the child back to their home community to > be baptised. Father was doing masonery repair on the Lutheran Church. Carol > > SV wrote: > > >Angie, sorry to correct you, but Martin Luther was the first Protestant and > >started the Protestant Reformation. Most churches that aren't Catholic are > >often called Protestant, but the Lutheran church was the first Protestant > >church. Martin Luther was the first to put the Bible into the language of > >the German people, and this also helped standardize the language, which > >often varied village to village. The Latin Bible was often chained to the > >pulpit at that time in the Catholic church. He didn't believe that we needed > >a priest to interpret the Bible for us, but that it should be in the hands > >of the people, and that the Holy Spirit would guide them. > > > > > > > >Luther is the one that is famous for saying Sola Fide, Sola Scriptura, and > >Sola Gratia. That means faith alone, Bible alone and God's grace alone. > >Methodists and other churches may also be Protestants, but they followed > >Lutherans in time. He knew we couldn't get to heaven by doing works, and he > >detested the selling of indulgences. You can read a lot that he wrote > >online. Galatians was his favorite book of the Bible (I used to think it was > >Romans), and he wrote a huge commentary on it. He also wrote hymns such as > >"A Mighty Fortress", or as it is called in German, "Ein Feste Burg ist Unser > >Gott". > > > > > > > >susan > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PRUSSIA-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think the simplest explanation is that "Protestant" is an umbrella term that encompasses Christian religions that are not Catholic or Orthodox. It's like saying all chairs have 4 legs, but not every thing with 4 legs is a chair. All Lutherans are Protestant, but not all Protestants are Lutheran. Just my .02. On 6/13/07, Angela Knutson <angie2@athena.net> wrote: > That was interesting! Thank you for the information. A lady I know from > England was offended when I called one of the churches over there Luthern. > She said it was Protestant, not Luthern. That's where I got the idea that > Protestant was not relelated to Luthern. > Angie