Hi, Several researchers have retired since I began this in 1993, but I have a new list at........ http://members.cox.net/hessen/hsstory.htm which connects to another list, as well. If you are bashing your head against that proverbial brick wall, maybe you'll want to contact one of these enthusiastic researchers living in Germany. :-) Don Watson

Hello Glen - What a fabulous name! If you have not already found one daughter Luise (German spelling) on familysearch.org, she is there with exact dates and husband Schlosser. I'm sure you're aware you will have to scour all the records in and around Stark and Canton and elsewhere in Ohio and follow all spellings you find. Go to the courthouse and look for her application for marriage license - should have her parents and birthplaces. And where are she and her husband buried? Has anyone photographed the tombstones - crypts, paperwork? And of course, follow her siblings and children. Probate actions. Primary sources are always better than secondary sources, but everything helps. Determining religion is important too. Just a couple tidbits out of a gazillion. Put the name in Google and you will get a famous German singer named Rene Carol, whose birth name was Gerhard Tschierschnitz, from Berlin, of Polish descent. Can't tell the relationship, since he was born 11 April 1920, but possibly there's a connection. That's only going to work if you work backwards from Ohio or wherever else they lived here, as I'm sure you know. I have not looked on Ancestry or for Ohio records - that's certainly going to help. Maureen In a message dated 7/12/2009 2:47:22 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi, I am looking for anyone that might have information on the surname Tschierschnitz. Two daughters, Louise, born March 26, 1872, and Catherine, born around 1869-1870 and possibly daughters of Henry and Catherine Tschierschnitz. Louise married Herman George Schlosser April 21, 1889 in Canton, OH and Catherine married William Schlosser in March of 1886 in Canton, OH. I am not certain where the family originated in Germany. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. Glen A. Frederick ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377098x1201454399/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62)

Hi, I am looking for anyone that might have information on the surname Tschierschnitz. Two daughters, Louise, born March 26, 1872, and Catherine, born around 1869-1870 and possibly daughters of Henry and Catherine Tschierschnitz. Louise married Herman George Schlosser April 21, 1889 in Canton, OH and Catherine married William Schlosser in March of 1886 in Canton, OH. I am not certain where the family originated in Germany. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you. Glen A. Frederick

JB: Henderson County has a county library located in Biggsville. There is also a Henderson County Genealogical Society which meets at the library. Check the US Genweb for Henderson County for specifics. One of them may be able to give some guidance in your search. Sheila K.

Hi Carole. Thanks for the tip. I will see if Jadea turns up anything. Regards, JB ----- Original Message ----- > > After YEARS of trying to find a hint on the Yadea surnme, I am still > clueless. The name is from notes my mother collected over the years > (decades), but she has no idea of the source. I am currently working on > the > speculation that Yadea is a phonetically incorrect spelling of the name > Gaede (gay-d written as yeah-d). There is some evidence indicating that > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 11:50:08 -0500 > From: "CArole Duff" <[email protected]> > > JB, I have frequently found the Y to be a J in German. Carol >

JB, I have frequently found the Y to be a J in German. Carol

Hi Maureen, Thanks for all your advice. Even though I have been pursuing my family history for over 40 years I still have lots to learn about researching my Germanic roots. The focus of most of my past research has been directed to my Swedish roots and there was a lot to learn there in terms of resources and language. Fortunately I was able to learn enough Swedish to interpret the exhaustive Swedish Church Record archives which turned out to be a gold mine. I also received invaluable help from the Sweden-Listers. The Prussia-Roots listers have been immensely helpful in providing direction and I am hopeful that I will be able to have as much success with my German heritage as I had with my Swedish ancestors. Thanks again, JB ----- Original Message ----- > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:17:23 EDT > JB - I just hope you will take the time to learn about genealogy and the > language and names and cultures and history before hunting all over the > place > on your computer for a particular family name. Everything is not on line > (yet) and much of what is there is not accurate - so it will help you to > know what is and what isn't so you can connect to your own line and not > someone else's. You have probably figured out this is not an instant > science > (I've been doing it for 30 years), so patience helps, and proof is > mandatory. There are a dozen or so books (those archaic things) which > will help > you enormously, as will joining a genealogical group including European > resources wherever it may be, preferably one close enough to go to - plus > one > where your people settled in the US if that's a different place. Someone > said you must find your European village in the US (or the Americas) and > that > is correct. If you would like a list of those books, let me know and > I'll > be glad to tell you. There are a gazillion places to look, just to name > a few, besides churches, the courthouse, cemeteries, (including pet > cemeteries) the English and German language newspapers, land records, tax > and > voting records, biographies of many kinds, the fraternal organizations > and > Turnvereins, the professional directories, schools and universities > (yearbooks > and special collections), city directories, local historical societies, > neighborhood newspapers; NARA, Library of Congress, public libraries, > prisons, > orphanages (not just for orphans), workhouses, photo albums; and get > Thode's Ger-Eng Genealogical Dictionary unless you are fluent in German, > French, > Latin, obsolete words and abbreviations - that has 90% of what you will > need. There are many places to send queries - and they do work. There > are > lots of knowledgeable people people on this message board - and there are > many, many message boards. You can look in the archives for each > ne - > and work your way through _www.Cyndislist.com_ (http://www.Cyndislist.com) > if you haven't already. There are exhaustive how-to's on > _www.familysearch.org_ (http://www.familysearch.org) under the help > menu. Everybody has > to go through that learning curve, and it is fascinating, because you > will > learn about yourself in the process, so I hope you will enjoy your ride! > > Maureen Schoenky

Hi Sheila, After YEARS of trying to find a hint on the Yadea surnme, I am still clueless. The name is from notes my mother collected over the years (decades), but she has no idea of the source. I am currently working on the speculation that Yadea is a phonetically incorrect spelling of the name Gaede (gay-d written as yeah-d). There is some evidence indicating that Ferdinand Morse had a sister, Augusta, who was married to a man named Fred Gaede. Fred and Augusta Gaede lived close to Ferdinand and Anna Morse and in the household of Fred and Augusta Gaede lived Ferdinand Morse, listed in the census as father-in-law. He, the elder Ferdinand Morse, was of an age suggesting that he could be the father of both Augusta Gaede and her neighbor the younger Ferdinand Morse. No definitive documentation yet, but this is my current research project. Thanks for your help, JB ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:20:00 -0500 > From: Sheila Kapella <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Please help me find the link from > Castlegarden to Prussia > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > JB: If the church is still operating they will have the records; if not, > most denominations have an archive; why would they have attended a Swedish > church - unless, of course, it was the nearest one of their denomination? > Did I find Anna's maiden name to be "Yadea(u)? Certainly weren't many of > them around and it doesn't appear to be German. Have you tried following > up > on it? Sheila K.

Thank Yvonne, Problem was indeed that the subscription wasn't finalised. Cheers, Robyn Yvonne wrote: > Hi Robyn, > it says that your browser has to accept cookies or cookies have to be > enabled. > > Yvonne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robyn Waymouth" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:23 PM > Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Help with German please > > > Hi, > > I've just managed to subscribe to OW-Preussen-L mail list from the site > that Marit just advised us of (http://gov.genealogy.net/) but when I > attempt to login and look at their archives I get the message below. > I'm wondering if it means I have something set on my computer that > prevents me getting access. Could someone who understands German help > me please? Could just be that my subscription isn't finalised yet, but > I can't tell. > > Regards, Robyn > > *//* > > */Wichtig:/* Ab diesem Punkt müssen in Ihrem Browser "Cookies" aktiviert > sein, da ansonsten keine Ihrer Änderungen in Aktion tritt. > > Mailmans Administrationsinterface benutzt sog. "session cookies", damit > Sie sich nicht für jede Administrationsaufgabe erneut authentifizieren > müssen. Diese "cookies" verfallen automatisch bei Beendigung Ihres > Webbrowsers; Sie können Sie allerdings auch sofort verfallen lassen, > indem Sie auf den /Ausloggen/ Link unter /Andere Administrative > Tätigkeiten/ klicken (den Sie sehen werden sobald Sie erfolgreich > eingeloggt sind). > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.4/2218 - Release Date: 07/04/09 17:55:00 > >

Problem seems to have solved itself. Well, actually I don't think there was ever a problem - except my impatience. After being out for a few hours I tried again and everything worked. Seems it just took some time for my subscription to the list to activate. Thanks to everyone who offered advice. Now I just have to learn German..... Robyn Robyn Waymouth wrote: > Hi, > > I've just managed to subscribe to OW-Preussen-L mail list from the site > that Marit just advised us of (http://gov.genealogy.net/) but when I > attempt to login and look at their archives I get the message below. > I'm wondering if it means I have something set on my computer that > prevents me getting access. Could someone who understands German help > me please? Could just be that my subscription isn't finalised yet, but > I can't tell. > > Regards, Robyn > > *//* > > */Wichtig:/* Ab diesem Punkt müssen in Ihrem Browser "Cookies" aktiviert > sein, da ansonsten keine Ihrer Änderungen in Aktion tritt. > > Mailmans Administrationsinterface benutzt sog. "session cookies", damit > Sie sich nicht für jede Administrationsaufgabe erneut authentifizieren > müssen. Diese "cookies" verfallen automatisch bei Beendigung Ihres > Webbrowsers; Sie können Sie allerdings auch sofort verfallen lassen, > indem Sie auf den /Ausloggen/ Link unter /Andere Administrative > Tätigkeiten/ klicken (den Sie sehen werden sobald Sie erfolgreich > eingeloggt sind). > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.4/2218 - Release Date: 07/04/09 17:55:00 > >

Hi Kathy, thanks for the plat book tip. I will see if I can locate one for the time period. They settled as Ferdinand and Anna Morse in Henderson County IL. Other than the Castlegarden record indicating their arrival in New York on 02 Dec 1881, the earliest record I have found is the 1900 census record for Gladstone Villiage. They lived in Henderson County their entire lives. Anna died in 1929 and I suspect Ferdinand died in 1930. I have ordered copies of their death certificates as one of the listers has suggested. Regards, JB ----- Original Message ----- > > 5. Re: Please help me find the link from Castlegarden to Prussia > (Kathy Hines) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 01:10:52 -0500 > From: "Kathy Hines" <[email protected]> > > What you need to help you find the closest church of that timeframe is an > old plat map for the county. Or, preferrably, a detailed plat map for the > township that your family lived in. Locate their farm or town that they > lived in and then look for little crosses on the plat map that indicate > churches. > > Where did your Ferdinand and Anna Moers settle?

Hi Robyn, it says that your browser has to accept cookies or cookies have to be enabled. Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robyn Waymouth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:23 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Help with German please Hi, I've just managed to subscribe to OW-Preussen-L mail list from the site that Marit just advised us of (http://gov.genealogy.net/) but when I attempt to login and look at their archives I get the message below. I'm wondering if it means I have something set on my computer that prevents me getting access. Could someone who understands German help me please? Could just be that my subscription isn't finalised yet, but I can't tell. Regards, Robyn *//* */Wichtig:/* Ab diesem Punkt müssen in Ihrem Browser "Cookies" aktiviert sein, da ansonsten keine Ihrer Änderungen in Aktion tritt. Mailmans Administrationsinterface benutzt sog. "session cookies", damit Sie sich nicht für jede Administrationsaufgabe erneut authentifizieren müssen. Diese "cookies" verfallen automatisch bei Beendigung Ihres Webbrowsers; Sie können Sie allerdings auch sofort verfallen lassen, indem Sie auf den /Ausloggen/ Link unter /Andere Administrative Tätigkeiten/ klicken (den Sie sehen werden sobald Sie erfolgreich eingeloggt sind). ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've checked everything I can think of to get cookies enabled, but I still can't get access to the Archives of the OW-Preussen-L. Maybe this message is telling me something I need to know - the bit in German especially. *------------------------------------ English language:* Mission: Genealogy & History are intertwined. This forum seeks to connect the two as one. This is a bi-lingual and open mail list for research in East- and Westprussia (former provinces of Prussia and the German Empire) Note: all mails to this list have been archived and indexed since 1998 and may be found via external search engines (like google). Genealogy.net has no legal and no technical capability to delete single messages from the external archive at mailarchive.com Um frühere Nachrichten an diese Liste zu sehen, besuchen Sie bitte das Archiv der Liste OW-Preussen-L <http://list.genealogy.net/mm/private/ow-preussen-l/>. (/Das aktuelle Archiv ist nur für die Abonnenten der Liste zugänglich./) ---------------------------------- Regards, Robyn

Hi, I've just managed to subscribe to OW-Preussen-L mail list from the site that Marit just advised us of (http://gov.genealogy.net/) but when I attempt to login and look at their archives I get the message below. I'm wondering if it means I have something set on my computer that prevents me getting access. Could someone who understands German help me please? Could just be that my subscription isn't finalised yet, but I can't tell. Regards, Robyn *//* */Wichtig:/* Ab diesem Punkt müssen in Ihrem Browser "Cookies" aktiviert sein, da ansonsten keine Ihrer Änderungen in Aktion tritt. Mailmans Administrationsinterface benutzt sog. "session cookies", damit Sie sich nicht für jede Administrationsaufgabe erneut authentifizieren müssen. Diese "cookies" verfallen automatisch bei Beendigung Ihres Webbrowsers; Sie können Sie allerdings auch sofort verfallen lassen, indem Sie auf den /Ausloggen/ Link unter /Andere Administrative Tätigkeiten/ klicken (den Sie sehen werden sobald Sie erfolgreich eingeloggt sind).

Marit, what a fabulous site. Now all I have to do is learn German! ;-) [email protected] wrote: > Hello, > > do you know the following link?: > > http://gov.genealogy.net/ > > There you find "Ortssuche". You can enter a name of a village or town. > It is also possible to enter only the beginning of a name. > > You can search on this site also for historical names of villages and > towns. > > Marit > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.3/2217 - Release Date: 07/03/09 18:11:00 > >

Hi Robyn, I wish you much success when German learning ;-) It is right: All informations of this site are in German and the english speakers of this mailing list can´t understand the explanations. But I think the following is also helpful for english speakers: After entering the name of a village you get a list of suggestions, which village you could mean. The names of the suggested villages are in blue. When you decide for one village, the next site shows you on the right side a little map. Under this map you find 4 links: Google Earth, Google Maps, Map Quest and MultiMap. I select always Google Maps. When you click on "Google Maps" you can see, where the village is. You can zoom very near, you can see, which towns and villages are in the neighbourhood. That is possible also for the historical name of your village. Marit -----Original Message----- Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:08:28 +0200 Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] village name From: Robyn Waymouth <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>,  [email protected] Marit, what a fabulous site.  Now all I have to do is learn German!   ;-) [email protected] wrote: > Hello, > > do you know the following link?: > > http://gov.genealogy.net/ > > There you find "Ortssuche". You can enter a name of a village or town. > It is also possible to enter only the beginning of a name. > > You can search on this site also for historical names of villages and > towns. > > Marit > > >   > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.3/2217 - Release Date: 07/03/09 18:11:00 > >  

Robyn, You may like to search mailing lists here http://bigfile.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/listsearch <http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/> Is this where you subscribed to OWP? http://list.genealogy.net/mm/listinfo/ow-preussen-l You may need to enable cookies... Kind regards, Bronwyn. On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Robyn Waymouth <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > I've just managed to subscribe to OW-Preussen-L mail list from the site > that Marit just advised us of (http://gov.genealogy.net/) but when I > attempt to login and look at their archives I get the message below. > I'm wondering if it means I have something set on my computer that > prevents me getting access. Could someone who understands German help > me please? Could just be that my subscription isn't finalised yet, but > I can't tell. > > Regards, Robyn > > *//* > > */Wichtig:/* Ab diesem Punkt müssen in Ihrem Browser "Cookies" aktiviert > sein, da ansonsten keine Ihrer Änderungen in Aktion tritt. > > Mailmans Administrationsinterface benutzt sog. "session cookies", damit > Sie sich nicht für jede Administrationsaufgabe erneut authentifizieren > müssen. Diese "cookies" verfallen automatisch bei Beendigung Ihres > Webbrowsers; Sie können Sie allerdings auch sofort verfallen lassen, > indem Sie auf den /Ausloggen/ Link unter /Andere Administrative > Tätigkeiten/ klicken (den Sie sehen werden sobald Sie erfolgreich > eingeloggt sind). > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My German is not very good but the site is trying to set a session cookie onto your system. Cookies are very small text files that sites use to recognize you when you return. You can google the term to get a more complete description. Your browser is blocking the cookie being set. If you wish to use the site you will have to allow it. If you are using Internet Explorer you can find the options under TOOLS - INTERNET OPTIONS - PRIVACY. Hope this helps. Walter On Jul 4, 2009, at 7:23 PM, Robyn Waymouth wrote: > Hi, > > I've just managed to subscribe to OW-Preussen-L mail list from the > site > that Marit just advised us of (http://gov.genealogy.net/) but when I > attempt to login and look at their archives I get the message below. > I'm wondering if it means I have something set on my computer that > prevents me getting access. Could someone who understands German help > me please? Could just be that my subscription isn't finalised yet, > but > I can't tell. > > Regards, Robyn > > *//* > > */Wichtig:/* Ab diesem Punkt müssen in Ihrem Browser "Cookies" > aktiviert > sein, da ansonsten keine Ihrer Änderungen in Aktion tritt. > > Mailmans Administrationsinterface benutzt sog. "session cookies", > damit > Sie sich nicht für jede Administrationsaufgabe erneut authentifizieren > müssen. Diese "cookies" verfallen automatisch bei Beendigung Ihres > Webbrowsers; Sie können Sie allerdings auch sofort verfallen lassen, > indem Sie auf den /Ausloggen/ Link unter /Andere Administrative > Tätigkeiten/ klicken (den Sie sehen werden sobald Sie erfolgreich > eingeloggt sind). > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

My greatgrandfather August Knop, was born in March of 1868 or 69 depending on which record you look at. I have looked at that listing but I just don't think it is him. I am almost 100% sure that he traveled with his mother, Augusta Knopp, So she would have to be on the manifest also. Thanks for looking. las **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005)

Hello, do you know the following link?: http://gov.genealogy.net/ There you find "Ortssuche". You can enter a name of a village or town. It is also possible to enter only the beginning of a name. You can search on this site also for historical names of villages and towns. Marit