Virginia, I would agree with the others that the place probably is Soltau. My parents were married in a village just outside of Soltau after WWII. Eickmann may be spelled Eichmann. Rose Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 From: Kate <[email protected]> Hi- I have a marriage application and certificate datd June 23, 1878 in Brooklyn, NY for a Meta Maria Eickmann from Soltrum(?) Hanover, parents were Friedrich Georg Eickmann and Rebecca Meta Behrens. I'm not having much luck finding information on the Eickmann surname, or on the name of the town. I'm wondering if someone could help me with a variation of Eickmann, and where would Soltrum be in the in the 1850s? I'm wondering if it was a question of a language barrier, and that the names are just wrong? thank you! Kate from Virginia

Hi Kate, Kate schrieb am 27.09.2009 00:07 u.a.: > > Thank you, its possible its Soltau, ... could it be Sottrum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sottrum)? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / kind regards Detlef (Ziemann) Meine Ahnen und ich / my ancestors and me: http://www.dziemann.de "Ziemanns Liste": http://www.dziemann.de/dkm/dkm-beitraege.htm

Kate - do you think that village name might be Soltau? I could not find anything resembling Soltrum in Meyers-Orts (1912 Gazetteer) but this place is in Hannover - a sizeable city of 5,000 a century ago. It is near Luneberg and Celle. On today's maps that would be Niedersachsen or Lower Saxony. As to Eickmann, there may be multiple spellings over time, so it will help to collect them all and follow the trail - there is no single correct version as we tend to think today. There were no spelling rules until around the time this lady was married, and it took some 20-30 years before those took hold, and some people just ignored those rules anyway. If you listen to the sound (the German sound), you will probably find Eichmann, as -ch- equals -k- (eiche means oak, a topographical name for those who lived under an oak tree or near an oak woods) Aichmann, also Flemish or Dutch, nearby, as Eike, Van Eyk, Eijk, Van der Eycke, Eyckman. The Eickmann spelling is Low German, Plattdeutsch, which fits the area of Hannover. Maureen In a message dated 9/26/2009 11:42:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi- I have a marriage application and certificate datd June 23, 1878 in Brooklyn, NY for a Meta Maria Eickmann from Soltrum(?) Hanover, parents were Friedrich Georg Eickmann and Rebecca Meta Behrens. I'm not having much luck finding information on the Eickmann surname, or on the name of the town. I'm wondering if someone could help me with a variation of Eickmann, and where would Soltrum be in the in the 1850s? I'm wondering if it was a question of a language barrier, and that the names are just wrong? thank you! Kate from Virginia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Detlef- That looks closer to what is written. :) I appreciate the assistance- regards Kate --- On Sat, 9/26/09, Detlef Ziemann <[email protected]> wrote: From: Detlef Ziemann <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Eickmann surname? To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 6:25 PM Hi Kate, Kate schrieb am 27.09.2009 00:07 u.a.: > > Thank you, its possible its Soltau, ... could it be Sottrum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sottrum)? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / kind regards     Detlef (Ziemann) Meine Ahnen und ich / my ancestors and me: http://www.dziemann.de "Ziemanns Liste": http://www.dziemann.de/dkm/dkm-beitraege.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi Maureen- Thank you, its possible its Soltau, there are just extra letters in the name. :) I appreciate the help with the last name, I haven't found any surname forums in the usual places(ie genforum/rootsweb) so I wondered if the name was wrong in some way. :) Kate --- On Sat, 9/26/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Eickmann surname? To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 3:57 PM Kate - do you think that village name might be Soltau?   I could  not find anything resembling Soltrum in Meyers-Orts (1912 Gazetteer) but this  place is in Hannover - a sizeable city of 5,000 a century ago.  It is near  Luneberg and Celle.  On today's maps that would be Niedersachsen or Lower  Saxony.   As to Eickmann, there may be multiple spellings over time, so it will help  to collect them all and follow the trail - there is no single correct version as  we tend to think today.   There were no spelling rules until around  the time this lady was married, and it took some 20-30 years before those took  hold, and some people just ignored those rules anyway.    If you  listen to the sound (the German sound), you will probably find Eichmann, as -ch-  equals -k- (eiche means oak, a topographical name for those who lived under an  oak tree or near an oak woods) Aichmann, also Flemish or Dutch, nearby, as Eike,  Van Eyk, Eijk, Van der Eycke, Eyckman.   The Eickmann spelling is Low  German, Plattdeutsch, which fits the area of Hannover.  Maureen In a message dated 9/26/2009 11:42:47 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  [email protected] writes: Hi- I have a marriage application and certificate datd June  23, 1878 in Brooklyn, NY for a Meta Maria Eickmann from Soltrum(?) Hanover,  parents were Friedrich Georg Eickmann and Rebecca Meta Behrens. I'm not  having much luck finding information on the Eickmann surname, or on the  name of the town. I'm wondering if someone could help me with a variation of  Eickmann, and where would Soltrum be in the in the 1850s? I'm wondering if it  was a question of a language barrier, and that the names are just  wrong? thank you! Kate from Virginia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from  the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the  word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the  message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi- I have a marriage application and certificate datd June 23, 1878 in Brooklyn, NY for a Meta Maria Eickmann from Soltrum(?) Hanover, parents were Friedrich Georg Eickmann and Rebecca Meta Behrens. I'm not having much luck finding information on the Eickmann surname, or on the name of the town. I'm wondering if someone could help me with a variation of Eickmann, and where would Soltrum be in the in the 1850s? I'm wondering if it was a question of a language barrier, and that the names are just wrong? thank you! Kate from Virginia

Hello Herb, Karl and Maureen Thank you all for your help and research. I have passed all three pieces of research on to my friend and from her memory it seems that Karl and Maureen have struck the famlies. Herb thank you for your input one can never have too much information and there may be a connection later down the track. Given that I now know the names of Rachel Sommerfeld's parents I guess that I should look for a death certificate for them. Will I be able to do much tracing using the English language and text. I feel way out of my depth. Many thanks again for all the help Jenny T <<Karl Roussin wrote: Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:23:52 -0500 Jenny T. The only record that I could find of Them is of the marriage of Rachel Sommerfeld as follows; Rachel Sommerfeld Pedigree Female Family Event(s): Birth: , , Germany Christening: Death: Burial: Parents: Father: Abraham Sommerfeld Family Mother: Bertha Baer Marriages: Spouse: Morris Nathan Family Marriage: 01 APR 1906 Manhattan, New York, New York There are records of 3 Moritz Nathan's , however I would need His birth date. Karl Roussin <<Maureen wrote: Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:00:24 EDT Jenny - it looks like there were a number of Moritz Nathan's - Herb found one of them. I found one too, (on Ancestry) indicating a Moritz Nathan, occupation jeweler, filed a Petition for Citizenship in the District Court of the United States for the Southern District of New York on 1 August 1901, renouncing sovereignty to the Emperor of Germany. The witness attesting to the truth of his Petition is Mortz Cassier (?) says Nathan was a resident of 70 E. 20th Street - Borough - ? illegible, NY. Nathan was born on 13 May 1876 and emigrated to the US on 30 Oct 1893. That's a 10 year difference from the Moritz Nathan which Herb found - sooooo - it looks like you will need to track several people with the same name. And Castle Garden was kaput by 1893. I chose this one because he is a jeweler, as you stated. The person writing this document was carried away with his penmanship, difficult to read - but a tidbit for you. You can check out city directories and censuses and death records, and see if this one is your friend's. Maureen <<Jenny T wrote: Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:00:24 EDT Hello List I am new to this list, to Prussia/German Genealogy, I live in Australia and I am doing research on behalf of a close friend. We have the following information for my friend's paternal great grandparents Moritz NATHAN born Germany he had his own business selling jewelry married Rachel SOMMERFELD and it is thought that her family line had established the town Sommerfeld. Moritz and Rachel NATHAN came to New York America by boat in the year 1883. This is all the information we have to date as my friend came to Australia from America to marry and live during the 1960s and has no family documentation to work through. Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated. Kind regards Jenny T

Jenny - and Karl - and all: I believe Karl's finding on the ship Saale is accurate; he traveled 1st class with one bag, as a merchant from Germany, destination Rochester NY; ticket no. 1966. I need to correct what I read as his naturalization date, though - on another, printed document, the date is 1 Aug 1905, not 1901. Moritz Nathan lived at 70 E. 120 Street, New York, NY. The witness to his naturalization was Moritz Cassiver, merchant, same address. Former nationality: German. In the 1910 census he is listed as Morris Nathan, 34, wife Rae (transcribed as Roe - needs to be corrected), 28, son Albert 1 3/12. Jewelry salesman; husband and wife from Germany, he came in 1893, she came in 1883. Lived in the Bronx. I don't know whether there may be any connection, but in the 1880 census, there is a Joseph A. Nathan, from Hesse-Darmstadt, his wife Esther, from England (parents from Holland) and kinder Annie, Elizabeth, Morris, and Celia. They were living in Brooklyn. Maureen In a message dated 9/23/2009 8:45:50 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Jenny T. It looks like ( to Me ) that the following record from Castle Garden is the immigration ship " SAALE " of Your MORITZ NATHAN. MORITZ NATHAN MERCHANT ( age )17 M , 30 Oct 1893, SAALE , BREMEN , GERMANY Karl Roussin =========================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny T" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:44 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Moritz Nathan and Rachel Sommerfeld > Hello Herb, Karl and Maureen > > Thank you all for your help and research. > > I have passed all three pieces of research on to my friend and from her > memory it seems that Karl and Maureen have struck the famlies. Herb thank > you for your input one can never have too much information and there may > be a connection later down the track. > > Given that I now know the names of Rachel Sommerfeld's parents I guess > that I should look for a death certificate for them. Will I be able to do > much tracing using the English language and text. I feel way out of my > depth. > > Many thanks again for all the help > > Jenny T > > <<Karl Roussin wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:23:52 -0500 > Jenny T. > The only record that I could find of Them is of the marriage of Rachel > Sommerfeld as follows; > > Rachel Sommerfeld Pedigree Female Family > Event(s): > Birth: , , Germany > Christening: > Death: > Burial: > Parents: Father: Abraham Sommerfeld Family > Mother: Bertha Baer > Marriages: > Spouse: Morris Nathan Family > Marriage: 01 APR 1906 Manhattan, New > York, New York > There are records of 3 Moritz Nathan's , however I would need His birth > date. Karl Roussin > > <<Maureen wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:00:24 EDT > Jenny - it looks like there were a number of Moritz Nathan's - Herb found > one of them. > I found one too, (on Ancestry) indicating a Moritz Nathan, occupation > jeweler, filed a Petition for Citizenship in the District Court of the > United > States for the Southern District of New York on 1 August 1901, renouncing > sovereignty to the Emperor of Germany. > The witness attesting to the truth of his Petition is Mortz Cassier (?) > says Nathan was a resident of 70 E. 20th Street - Borough - ? illegible, > NY. > > Nathan was born on 13 May 1876 and emigrated to the US on 30 Oct 1893. > That's a 10 year difference from the Moritz Nathan which Herb found - > sooooo - it looks like you will need to track several people with the same > name. And Castle Garden was kaput by 1893. I chose this one because he > is a jeweler, as you stated. > > The person writing this document was carried away with his penmanship, > difficult to read - but a tidbit for you. > > You can check out city directories and censuses and death records, and see > if this one is your friend's. > Maureen > > <<Jenny T wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:00:24 EDT > > Hello List > I am new to this list, to Prussia/German Genealogy, I live in Australia > and I am doing research on behalf of a close friend. > > We have the following information for my friend's paternal great > grandparents > > Moritz NATHAN born Germany he had his own business selling jewelry married > Rachel SOMMERFELD and it is thought that her family line had established > the town Sommerfeld. > > Moritz and Rachel NATHAN came to New York America by boat in the year > 1883. > > This is all the information we have to date as my friend came to Australia > from America to marry and live during the 1960s and has no family > documentation to work through. > > Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated. > > Kind regards > Jenny T > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jenny T. It looks like ( to Me ) that the following record from Castle Garden is the immigration ship " SAALE " of Your MORITZ NATHAN. MORITZ NATHAN MERCHANT ( age )17 M , 30 Oct 1893, SAALE , BREMEN , GERMANY Karl Roussin =========================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny T" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:44 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Moritz Nathan and Rachel Sommerfeld > Hello Herb, Karl and Maureen > > Thank you all for your help and research. > > I have passed all three pieces of research on to my friend and from her > memory it seems that Karl and Maureen have struck the famlies. Herb thank > you for your input one can never have too much information and there may > be a connection later down the track. > > Given that I now know the names of Rachel Sommerfeld's parents I guess > that I should look for a death certificate for them. Will I be able to do > much tracing using the English language and text. I feel way out of my > depth. > > Many thanks again for all the help > > Jenny T > > <<Karl Roussin wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:23:52 -0500 > Jenny T. > The only record that I could find of Them is of the marriage of Rachel > Sommerfeld as follows; > > Rachel Sommerfeld Pedigree Female Family > Event(s): > Birth: , , Germany > Christening: > Death: > Burial: > Parents: Father: Abraham Sommerfeld Family > Mother: Bertha Baer > Marriages: > Spouse: Morris Nathan Family > Marriage: 01 APR 1906 Manhattan, New > York, New York > There are records of 3 Moritz Nathan's , however I would need His birth > date. Karl Roussin > > <<Maureen wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:00:24 EDT > Jenny - it looks like there were a number of Moritz Nathan's - Herb found > one of them. > I found one too, (on Ancestry) indicating a Moritz Nathan, occupation > jeweler, filed a Petition for Citizenship in the District Court of the > United > States for the Southern District of New York on 1 August 1901, renouncing > sovereignty to the Emperor of Germany. > The witness attesting to the truth of his Petition is Mortz Cassier (?) > says Nathan was a resident of 70 E. 20th Street - Borough - ? illegible, > NY. > > Nathan was born on 13 May 1876 and emigrated to the US on 30 Oct 1893. > That's a 10 year difference from the Moritz Nathan which Herb found - > sooooo - it looks like you will need to track several people with the same > name. And Castle Garden was kaput by 1893. I chose this one because he > is a jeweler, as you stated. > > The person writing this document was carried away with his penmanship, > difficult to read - but a tidbit for you. > > You can check out city directories and censuses and death records, and see > if this one is your friend's. > Maureen > > <<Jenny T wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:00:24 EDT > > Hello List > I am new to this list, to Prussia/German Genealogy, I live in Australia > and I am doing research on behalf of a close friend. > > We have the following information for my friend's paternal great > grandparents > > Moritz NATHAN born Germany he had his own business selling jewelry married > Rachel SOMMERFELD and it is thought that her family line had established > the town Sommerfeld. > > Moritz and Rachel NATHAN came to New York America by boat in the year > 1883. > > This is all the information we have to date as my friend came to Australia > from America to marry and live during the 1960s and has no family > documentation to work through. > > Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated. > > Kind regards > Jenny T > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Jenny T. More of Moritz Nathan -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Morris Nathan Pedigree Male Family -------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: , , Germany Christening: Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Herman Nathan Family Mother: Dinah Lehman -------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: Rachel Sommerfeld Family Marriage: 01 APR 1906 Manhattan, New York, New York -------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M001705 The parents records now , may show more records. The name of the town , that They came from is really needed to check the FHC microfilms. Karl Roussin ============================================ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny T" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:44 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Moritz Nathan and Rachel Sommerfeld > Hello Herb, Karl and Maureen > > Thank you all for your help and research. > > I have passed all three pieces of research on to my friend and from her > memory it seems that Karl and Maureen have struck the famlies. Herb thank > you for your input one can never have too much information and there may > be a connection later down the track. > > Given that I now know the names of Rachel Sommerfeld's parents I guess > that I should look for a death certificate for them. Will I be able to do > much tracing using the English language and text. I feel way out of my > depth. > > Many thanks again for all the help > > Jenny T > > <<Karl Roussin wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:23:52 -0500 > Jenny T. > The only record that I could find of Them is of the marriage of Rachel > Sommerfeld as follows; > > Rachel Sommerfeld Pedigree Female Family > Event(s): > Birth: , , Germany > Christening: > Death: > Burial: > Parents: Father: Abraham Sommerfeld Family > Mother: Bertha Baer > Marriages: > Spouse: Morris Nathan Family > Marriage: 01 APR 1906 Manhattan, New > York, New York > There are records of 3 Moritz Nathan's , however I would need His birth > date. Karl Roussin > > <<Maureen wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:00:24 EDT > Jenny - it looks like there were a number of Moritz Nathan's - Herb found > one of them. > I found one too, (on Ancestry) indicating a Moritz Nathan, occupation > jeweler, filed a Petition for Citizenship in the District Court of the > United > States for the Southern District of New York on 1 August 1901, renouncing > sovereignty to the Emperor of Germany. > The witness attesting to the truth of his Petition is Mortz Cassier (?) > says Nathan was a resident of 70 E. 20th Street - Borough - ? illegible, > NY. > > Nathan was born on 13 May 1876 and emigrated to the US on 30 Oct 1893. > That's a 10 year difference from the Moritz Nathan which Herb found - > sooooo - it looks like you will need to track several people with the same > name. And Castle Garden was kaput by 1893. I chose this one because he > is a jeweler, as you stated. > > The person writing this document was carried away with his penmanship, > difficult to read - but a tidbit for you. > > You can check out city directories and censuses and death records, and see > if this one is your friend's. > Maureen > > <<Jenny T wrote: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:00:24 EDT > > Hello List > I am new to this list, to Prussia/German Genealogy, I live in Australia > and I am doing research on behalf of a close friend. > > We have the following information for my friend's paternal great > grandparents > > Moritz NATHAN born Germany he had his own business selling jewelry married > Rachel SOMMERFELD and it is thought that her family line had established > the town Sommerfeld. > > Moritz and Rachel NATHAN came to New York America by boat in the year > 1883. > > This is all the information we have to date as my friend came to Australia > from America to marry and live during the 1960s and has no family > documentation to work through. > > Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated. > > Kind regards > Jenny T > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List I am new to this list, to Prussia/German Genealogy, I live in Australia and I am doing research on behalf of a close friend. We have the following information for my friend's paternal great grandparents Moritz NATHAN born Germany he had his own business selling jewelry married Rachel SOMMERFELD and it is thought that her family line had established the town Sommerfeld. Moritz and Rachel NATHAN came to New York America by boat in the year 1883. This is all the information we have to date as my friend came to Australia from America to marry and live during the 1960s and has no family documentation to work through. Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated. Kind regards Jenny T

Jenny - it looks like there were a number of Moritz Nathan's - Herb found one of them. I found one too, (on Ancestry) indicating a Moritz Nathan, occupation jeweler, filed a Petition for Citizenship in the District Court of the United States for the Southern District of New York on 1 August 1901, renouncing sovereignty to the Emperor of Germany. The witness attesting to the truth of his Petition is Mortz Cassier (?) says Nathan was a resident of 70 E. 20th Street - Borough - ? illegible, NY. Nathan was born on 13 May 1876 and emigrated to the US on 30 Oct 1893. That's a 10 year difference from the Moritz Nathan which Herb found - sooooo - it looks like you will need to track several people with the same name. And Castle Garden was kaput by 1893. I chose this one because he is a jeweler, as you stated. The person writing this document was carried away with his penmanship, difficult to read - but a tidbit for you. You can check out city directories and censuses and death records, and see if this one is your friend's. Maureen In a message dated 9/21/2009 7:18:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Jenny, castlegarden.org states that Moritz Nathan, age 18, arrived in the USA on 24 January 1883 on the ship Main. Port origin was Bremen; country of origin was Austria. His occupation was listed as "Dealer". You might want to go to castlegarden.org to check on Rachel. Herb --- On Mon, 9/21/09, Jenny T <[email protected]> wrote: From: Jenny T <[email protected]> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Moritz Nathan and Rachel Sommerfeld. To: [email protected] Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 7:58 PM Hello List I am new to this list, to Prussia/German Genealogy, I live in Australia and I am doing research on behalf of a close friend. We have the following information for my friend's paternal great grandparents Moritz NATHAN born Germany he had his own business selling jewelry married Rachel SOMMERFELD and it is thought that her family line had established the town Sommerfeld. Moritz and Rachel NATHAN came to New York America by boat in the year 1883. This is all the information we have to date as my friend came to Australia from America to marry and live during the 1960s and has no family documentation to work through. Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated. Kind regards Jenny T ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jenny T. The only record that I could find of Them is of the marriage of Rachel Sommerfeld as follows; -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Sommerfeld Pedigree Female Family -------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: , , Germany Christening: Death: Burial: -------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Abraham Sommerfeld Family Mother: Bertha Baer -------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages: Spouse: Morris Nathan Family Marriage: 01 APR 1906 Manhattan, New York, New York -------------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M001705 There are records of 3 Moritz Nathan's , however I would need His birth date. Karl Roussin ============= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny T" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Moritz Nathan and Rachel Sommerfeld. > Hello List > > I am new to this list, to Prussia/German Genealogy, I live in Australia > and I am doing research on behalf of a close friend. > > We have the following information for my friend's paternal great > grandparents > > Moritz NATHAN born Germany he had his own business selling jewelry married > Rachel SOMMERFELD and it is thought that her family line had established > the town Sommerfeld. > > Moritz and Rachel NATHAN came to New York America by boat in the year > 1883. > > This is all the information we have to date as my friend came to Australia > from America to marry and live during the 1960s and has no family > documentation to work through. > > Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated. > > Kind regards > Jenny T > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jenny, castlegarden.org states that Moritz Nathan, age 18, arrived in the USA on 24 January 1883 on the ship Main.  Port origin was Bremen; country of origin was Austria.  His occupation was listed as "Dealer". You might want to go to castlegarden.org to check on Rachel. Herb --- On Mon, 9/21/09, Jenny T <[email protected]> wrote: From: Jenny T <[email protected]> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Moritz Nathan and Rachel Sommerfeld. To: [email protected] Date: Monday, September 21, 2009, 7:58 PM Hello List I am new to this list, to Prussia/German Genealogy, I live in Australia and I am doing research on behalf of a close friend. We have the following information for my friend's paternal great grandparents Moritz NATHAN born Germany he had his own business selling jewelry married Rachel SOMMERFELD and it is thought that her family line had established the town Sommerfeld. Moritz and Rachel NATHAN came to New York America by boat in the year 1883. This is all the information we have to date as my friend came to Australia from America to marry and live during the 1960s and has no family documentation to work through. Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated. Kind regards Jenny T ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello list, I am researching the following names and would like to hear from anyone who has any of the names in their own genealogy tree. Thank you, regards, Zed SIEBERT KAROLINE WILHELMINE, BORN 1877 GROSS ENGELAU WEHLAU EAST PRUSSIA SIEBERT JOHANN EDUARD EWALD, BORN 3 Oct 1828 ALLENBURG WEHLAU, EAST PRUSSIA SIEBERT JOHANN, BORN ABOUT 1808 WAS LANDLORD AT ALLENBURG WEHLAU, EAST PRUSSIA WAGNER CAROLINE, BORN ABOUT 1808 EAST PRUSSIA RAUSCHNING HENRIETTE, BORN 2 May 1830 ABDECKEREI NEAR BIEBERSWALDE EAST PRUSSIA KRAASS WILHELMINE, BORN 13 Sep 1836 GROSS ENGELAU, EAST PRUSSIA KRAASS MICHAEL, BORN ABOUT 1810, WAS A LANDLORD IN GROSS ENGELAU EAST PRUSSIA NEUFELD ELISABETH, BORN ABOUT 1815 EAST PRUSSIA BARTUZAT MAGDALENE, BORN ABOUT 1808 EAST PRUSSIA STEINKE ANN SOPHIE, BORN ABOUT 1810 EAST PRUSSIA

>From the records in the Protestant church parish register for Schwazenau, now Czerniejewo (Gniezno) Poland, my great, great grandparents, Carl August Schuenemann and Hermine Alwine Kluge baptized their children in the above church between the years 1863-1872. Some names listed as sponsors: Pauline Kluge, Friederick Kluge, Carl Breitruck (see marriage record below) and others, Gustav Kluge, Franz Kluge and Agnes Kluge. Any others out ther who might be related to Kluges? Patsy Hand, Texas . 22 November 1864, marriage of Carl August Theodor Breitruck in Potrzymowo, son of gunsmith, Carl Breitruck in Rohzla, province Saxony and Pauline Marie Kluge in Potrzymowo, daughter of there living restraurant proprietor (innkeeper or landlord), Johann Friedrich Kluge in the church (both with consent of their fathers.)

Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] NAME INTERESTS > Hello list, I am researching the following names and would like to hear > from anyone who has any of the names in their own genealogy tree. > > Thank you, regards, Zed > > > > RAUSCHNING HENRIETTE, BORN 2 May 1830 ABDECKEREI NEAR BIEBERSWALDE > EAST PRUSSIA I have Wilhelm Rauschning that married Wilhelmina (Poneles) Children would be: Ida Anna, Eric, Bertha, Elfrieda, Erwin and Alfred. Not quite sure where your Abdeckerei bei Bieberswalde is located (Kreis) but my group (Rauschning) is/was from the area of Gross Aschnargon, Kreis Niederung, Ostpreussen. Not sure what the name changed to after the Nazi's Germanized villages and cities in the east. Ida Anna married my uncle (Fritz Obschernings) and lived most of their lives in Medford, Taylor County, Wisconsin, USA after immigrating in the early 1920's. Your date of 1830 maybe a bit earlier than what I have. Information before the father of my Ida Anna, I don't know the details. Regards, Bob~~

Hi Livy; I need to go through the tutorials as so far I've just skimmed through FTM 2010 but; as far as I can see, the whole layout is different from FTM16 and previous versions. The separate tabs for media, etc. are different as FTM 16 had the "scrapbook" icon instead. I have found the new "hints" icon to be very useful, already enabling me to connect with others researching the same family lines. I'm sure all the same stuff is there, just under different headings and for me it will take some getting used to in order to learn my way around. Regards, Sam in CA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Livy Revits Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? I'm following the discussion on FTM books with interest. What improvements does 2010 FTM have over 2009? I tired to create a book on my Prussian BOMMERSHEIM-GEIBEL-SCHWARZ ancestry, using one ancestor as the focal point but never completed it. Something seemed missing. However, the photo section was BEAUTIFUL! Also, I attended the Webinar hosted by Mr. DUFF on behalf of FTM in March which served as a tutorial. When you say 2010 "sure is different," can you explain how? At the moment I'm working with it and can't discern anything new. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Sam Koester <[email protected]> wrote: > Kristi; Ah, now I understand the issue. Thanks for the clarification. I > agree with you on the FTM books. They certainly don't give one the > flexibility that I would prefer. I just got the new FTM but; haven't > explored the book options in it yet. It sure is different than previous > versions. > > Does my mileage vary?? Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kristi Murdock > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > > Sam, the books I worked on weren't genealogies so much as memoirs. Only > one > > had a tree in it and it's been a while, but I think we used one of the > methods I described to get it in there from my m-i-l's PAF. I think if > you > > are publishing to get your research and documentation out there, FTM's > books > > are a great way to go. If you want to do more with format -- page numbers > with custom footers, using styles for quotes, interspersing pictures > amongst > > related anecdotes and all the other things that a word processor will do > for > > you -- and have diagrams and charts as illustrations but not major points, > you might want to go the word processor route. I would, anyway -- my FTM > books look like Reports With Footnotes <grin> but I think I am a few > versions of FTM behind so maybe I'm out of the loop on that. > > Does your mileage vary? > > --Kristi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sam Koester" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:56 PM > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > > > > Kristi; FTM has book publishing capabilities which include your family > > tree. Is there a reason you don't just use their format? Just curious, > > Sam > > in CA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kristi Murdock > > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:51 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > > > > 1. What software, if any, do you use for genealogy? Am I undertanding > > right, you'd like to include a particular diagram or diagrams from your > > genealogy software in the book? What software are you using to write the > > book? > > > > For example, if you use Family Tree Maker, the diagrams can be exported > to > > adobe acrobat reader (.pdf) files. And .pdf files can be included in > > Microsoft Word files. Or you could show the diagrams on screen, use a > > screen capture utility, then pull the capture into a graphics program to > > crop/resize/etc. > > > > 2. How do you plan to publish the book? > > > > I've recently become a huge fan of Lulu.com and have helped several folks > > write their memoirs, including photographs, for hardback and softback > > publication. It is publish-on-demand, so you only pay for what you want, > > no > > > > "inventory" of books. If you make a change to the book, you upload a new > > file and all future editions printed will reflect the change. No setup > > fees. They do have an electronic options, where you can charge for an > > e-edition or your book, or make it available for free. The transition > > from > > a document file to their specified .pdf format is a tiny bit tricky, but > > there are some nice tutorials. > > > > --Kristi in Iowa > > > >> ----------------------------- > >> > >> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > >> > >> > >>> Hello to everyone, > >>> > >>> I would like to import a plain family tree (boxes) onto a plain blank > >>> page > >>> of a book I am putting together. Has anyone else tried this and can you > >>> share what software if any you used? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> David > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm following the discussion on FTM books with interest. What improvements does 2010 FTM have over 2009? I tired to create a book on my Prussian BOMMERSHEIM-GEIBEL-SCHWARZ ancestry, using one ancestor as the focal point but never completed it. Something seemed missing. However, the photo section was BEAUTIFUL! Also, I attended the Webinar hosted by Mr. DUFF on behalf of FTM in March which served as a tutorial. When you say 2010 "sure is different," can you explain how? At the moment I'm working with it and can't discern anything new. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:31 PM, Sam Koester <[email protected]> wrote: > Kristi; Ah, now I understand the issue. Thanks for the clarification. I > agree with you on the FTM books. They certainly don't give one the > flexibility that I would prefer. I just got the new FTM but; haven't > explored the book options in it yet. It sure is different than previous > versions. > > Does my mileage vary?? Sam > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kristi Murdock > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > > Sam, the books I worked on weren't genealogies so much as memoirs. Only > one > > had a tree in it and it's been a while, but I think we used one of the > methods I described to get it in there from my m-i-l's PAF. I think if > you > > are publishing to get your research and documentation out there, FTM's > books > > are a great way to go. If you want to do more with format -- page numbers > with custom footers, using styles for quotes, interspersing pictures > amongst > > related anecdotes and all the other things that a word processor will do > for > > you -- and have diagrams and charts as illustrations but not major points, > you might want to go the word processor route. I would, anyway -- my FTM > books look like Reports With Footnotes <grin> but I think I am a few > versions of FTM behind so maybe I'm out of the loop on that. > > Does your mileage vary? > > --Kristi > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sam Koester" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 1:56 PM > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > > > > Kristi; FTM has book publishing capabilities which include your family > > tree. Is there a reason you don't just use their format? Just curious, > > Sam > > in CA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kristi Murdock > > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:51 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > > > > 1. What software, if any, do you use for genealogy? Am I undertanding > > right, you'd like to include a particular diagram or diagrams from your > > genealogy software in the book? What software are you using to write the > > book? > > > > For example, if you use Family Tree Maker, the diagrams can be exported > to > > adobe acrobat reader (.pdf) files. And .pdf files can be included in > > Microsoft Word files. Or you could show the diagrams on screen, use a > > screen capture utility, then pull the capture into a graphics program to > > crop/resize/etc. > > > > 2. How do you plan to publish the book? > > > > I've recently become a huge fan of Lulu.com and have helped several folks > > write their memoirs, including photographs, for hardback and softback > > publication. It is publish-on-demand, so you only pay for what you want, > > no > > > > "inventory" of books. If you make a change to the book, you upload a new > > file and all future editions printed will reflect the change. No setup > > fees. They do have an electronic options, where you can charge for an > > e-edition or your book, or make it available for free. The transition > > from > > a document file to their specified .pdf format is a tiny bit tricky, but > > there are some nice tutorials. > > > > --Kristi in Iowa > > > >> ----------------------------- > >> > >> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? > >> > >> > >>> Hello to everyone, > >>> > >>> I would like to import a plain family tree (boxes) onto a plain blank > >>> page > >>> of a book I am putting together. Has anyone else tried this and can you > >>> share what software if any you used? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> David > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

David, If you are using a Mac for genealogy, Reunion by Leister Productions is very fine.? Reports and charts can be saved as text or graphics and can be placed into any desktop publishing app. I'm a few years behind in completing my family history but eventually I will make it available on CD for my relatives who are computer literate and will make paper copies for those who aren't. I'm using Adobe InDesign but just about any desktop publish program should work. I will take my CD to a Staples or other similar business for the paper copies. It won't be a bound book but that's not my goal. Nancy in CA Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:51:57 -0700 (PDT) From: David Stroebel <[email protected]> Subject: [PRUSSIA-ROOTS] Best way to Import a Family Tree into Book? To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello to everyone, I would like to import a plain family tree (boxes) onto a plain blank page of a book I am putting together. Has anyone else tried this and can you share what software if any you used? Thanks, David